False Prophet Ronald Weinland

The last Feast of Tabernacles before Christ doesn’t return is over.  False Prophet Ronald Weinland and the Silent Witness and Prophet(ess) Laura Weinland are in Hawaii this weekend.  Because of the time zone differences, he won’t be delivering a live sermon this week so Wayne Matthews has a recorded sermon on the PKG website.  But before I discuss that, I want to recap Weinland’s Last Great Day sermon:  my last post was basically a live blog and I’ve seen listened to the sermon again and have a few more details and commentary.

In his Last Great Day sermon, Ron asked his followers if they were ready for a declaration from God.  During the night of Atonement, Ron couldn’t sleep and as in times past thoughts came into his mind.  The first thought: Christ is not returning on May 27, 2012.  The second thought: Ron had not started his job as witness, that he needed to be humbled by this failure and his job would actually start on the day that Christ doesn’t return.  Ron woke Laura up and they had a discussion.  As before when Ron had doubts, I imagine that Laura argued against those thoughts.  Ron said he would continue to believe in certain things even if he was by himself.

Ron asked his members where they would go if they didn’t follow him.  He asked where they would get the “truth” and cited a number of post-Armstrong “truths” that he came up with.  Including truth #46 which he also said came to him in a thought in the middle of the night.  While he has said a lot, and it hasn’t all come to pass such as Europe arising no later than August of this year as prophesied in his 2009 LGD sermon, he still believes everything written in his books.  He went on to say that he still believed sn all 57 truths with all his being, and believes even more firmly that Christ will return next Pentecost.  And that these two thoughts were put into his mind by Satan, as Satan also tempted Christ while he was fasting.

Weinland set things up with more wiggle room, talking about the 5 months of torment from Rev 9:5.  According to him, it could progressively build up with the anguish building over 5 months.  This gives him more wiggle room past January, 5 months before Pentecost.  Ron said that some in PKG would not be with him at the next feast, that not all would make it to the promised land.

In Matthews’ sermon today,  Wayne announced that he would be in Orlando on November 26th with Weinland.  This is probably right before the ministerial conference with the evangelists and senior elders Weinland said would happen in December.  When he also may be conducting some radio interviews, which hasn’t happened since the first half of 2009.

Wayne acknowledged (consistent with another report) that the PKG members were shaken by Ron’s LGD sermon.  It was a challenge to the mind.  He stated that if the date had changed, it should make no difference as they were in it for that way of life.  He likened them to sheep, asking them to think it through: “Are we going to follow no matter where the shepherd leads us to?”  Another zinger from Wayne, as he talked about a PKG member converted to spirit being watching a family member go through the second death in the lake of fire after the millennium and the following century.  There should be no sadness for the event, as the family member chose their fate and it would be more merciful than living with a twisted distorted mind.

So.  How do we know that it was Satan who came to Ron in the middle of the night of Atonement, when Ron was weakened by his fast of less than 12 hours?  And not God who came to him the same way to deliver the 46th “truth” into Ron’s mind?  I imagine that Laura has a great deal to do with that “clarification”.  PKG members have been shaken by this trial balloon and are working their way though the emotions of the thought without having to deal with it fully.  They are sheep, and will continue to follow Ron no matter how he plays his cards as his prophesies fail.  They think they are following God, and they are — a god anyway, Ron’s god who is ….. Ron himself.

 

 

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was a no-show in Melbourne, Australia where he was scheduled to appear.  The Day of Atonement is over with in Australia, those PKGers in the US have to continue to starve themselves until this evening. Ron’s evangelist and local sheriff Wayne Matthews gave the sermon.  He explained the situation like this:

Mr. and Mrs. Weinland have arrived safely, which is exciting and holding up health-wise, which is very good.  And other than that, we’ll just get straight into the sermon.

There was no other evidence of their presence, and it appears that Wayne was using his own computer, not Ron’s.  So where was Ron?  He’s had all week since appearing last weekend in Los Angeles to travel to Australia and recover from jet lag.  Perhaps he’s frantically working on his Last Great Day sermon which needs to be a barn burner, tying all 4 of his new “truths” together.

At one point Wayne said “We are deceived”.  He had it right until he went on explaining that they were deceived but aren’t anymore.  So sad. His sermon was mostly the same boring nonsense.

If you’re looking for a more interesting bit of Armstrongism, you may want to download some audio files from another site.  Gerald Waterhouse was a brown-noser for Herbert Armstrong and then Joseph Tkach who traveled around delivering 3-4 hour tributes to them.  There are files for two different “bible studies” on the linked site each well over 2 hours long.  These were recorded in the early 80s prior to Herbert Armstrong’s death before he could be one of the Two Witnesses.  I sampled some of these comedy routines, including his description of the organization of the government which God would be establishing any year now after eating Sunday chicken and giving salivation (sic).   Somehow I missed out when I was required to warm the hard metal folding chairs, he must not have made it to my area before I escaped.  So this is a chance for me to catch up.

Where in the world is False Prophet Ronald Weinland?  He’s a no-show this weekend, with Deputy Sheriff Wayne Matthews filling in for the sermon.  Has Ron been scooped up by the IRS yet?   Probably not, I expect we’ll have to wait awhile longer for that.  I think it more likely that Ron is lolling about a Hawaiian beach on the way to Australia and New Zealand for the feast of matzo bread starting in just over a week.

Wayne’s sermon seems to have been recorded at his home, which must be on a busy street near an intersection as heavy vehicles can be heard in the background with their motors laboring under acceleration.  I wonder if Wayne makes wife and Senior Elder Christine cower in the bathroom as Ron has required Laura to do in the past when he gave sermons from a hotel room.

Wayne’s sermon was less intense than some he’s given in the past.  There wasn’t a rant about how PKG is the only true church and that Ron and Laura are indeed the Two Witnesses.  I hope that’s an indication that Wayne’s starting to wean himself from Ron’s Flavor Aid. I wonder if Wayne has found employment to replace that which he gave up when he broke his pitcher two years ago.

Wayne went on about the “stones of the temple” which is a prophetic metaphor for those who are “the 144,000″ who were re-sealed on the Feast of Trumpet of 2008 and will be converted to god beings at sundown preceding May 27, 2012 when Christ returns (mid-day on the 26th for those in US timezones) which is about 799 days from now according to Wayne’s count.  Others who don’t understand “God’s” plan haven’t been called and “stumble by design”.  Wayne cautioned the brethren to not lift themselves up against those who’ve not been called yet.  Like Ron has done against me and others.  Have I committed the unpardonable sin, despite being set up by Ron’s God to fail?  Is Ron’s death sentence against me fully justified, or do I still have a chance that I won’t die as a result of the speedy death curse against me issued by God’s End-Time Spokesman Witness and Fulfillment of the Elijah-to-Come some 65 weeks ago?  Inquiring minds want to know.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was a few minutes late getting started since the hall in Orlando needed to be rearranged.  During the announcements, he mentioned Tyler, a child in New Mexico who is undergoing treatment for leukemia.  I view it as a positive sign that he is being given qualified medical care and hope it works for him.

Ron made a point of not giving Tyler’s address as there supposedly are crackpots and weirdos out there who like to stir things up.  That sort of thing does not happen on my blog.   I have not published any of the addresses that have come my way, including that of the false apostle and has-been Elijah.  In fact, I’m not aware that it has happened anywhere except for a couple of incidents in comments which were quickly deleted by the website management. So Ron, whom are you talking about?

During the sermon, he railed against mockers and critics, who seek to destroy Ron and his church with lies and deceit.  Ron, I would like to see your false ministry end, but my means are to show the truth.  As I’ve said before in an email to you which you probably deleted, if I’ve said something on my site that’s not truthful then tell me what it is so I can correct it.  Rather, you impugn what I’m doing because you’re afraid that if more of your members read my site then even more will leave.

At the beginning of the sermon, Ron said it would be on the par of his sermons at the 2005 Feast of Tabernacles at which he presented his unique (at least among Armstrongites) doctrine on the origin of Christ.  First he read part way through his blog posting, and then diverted to the new topic.  After reading verses from Acts 8 and Acts 19 about the laying on of hands after baptism possible only by ordained ministers, he announced that there would be additional waves of elders.  These would be termed as associate elders, whose job it will be to baptize the hordes of people wanting to join PKG due to the fulfillment of Ron’s prophecies, which although they didn’t happen when he said they would, they will eventually.

I speculated in my last post that the status of Laura would change.  Its turns out that it has in an indirect fashion.  Laura no longer is the only ordained female in PKG.  It turns out that sleeping with an evangelist gives one spiritual qualities, as Angela (Ann) Wrozek and Myrtle Harrell were ordained by Ron as senior elders last week in Georgia.  Then Ron called Wayne Matthews in Melbourne who then ordained his wife Christine (Chris) as the third senior elder.  More men and women will be ordained as associate elders.

And Laura does have a new title.  She no longer is a prophetess.  She now is a prophet.  Ron objects to the second-class status of women, although they still will not be able to speak during services.

Some of the sealed who are older and physically not capable of performing the baptism are ineligble to be ordained.  Now this doesn’t quite make sense.  If lay members can help in the dunking part, then all they have to really do is the laying-on-of-hands part.  But why am I expecting anything Ron does to make sense.

But adding more elders including does make sense to me.  It binds the ordained ones closer to Ron so they’ll continue to ignore the failure of Ron’s prophecies. Ron plans an elders conference in Cincinnati on February 27 for training.  Ron promises more waves of ordination.  And who knows?  Maybe 20-something Tony Wilson who runs the HWA Compendium website will get to be an elder too.

Ron took time to rail against mockers and critics, who are trying to weaken the church with lies and deceit and who are being eaten up with cancer from the inside.  Now that was his curse in his first timeline — Ron, you said 53 weeks ago that I was to die quickly from the inside.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Cincinnati this weekend, back from his trip to Sin City last weekend. Ron announced that planning is underway for sites at which PKG members will gather and observe the Feast of Tabernacles next year.  The 2010 feast is the third after the 2007 feast, which was to have been the very last one at which people would assemble before Christ’s return.  Not only is PKG planning a feast at “Time” plus 3 Months into the shortened Great Tribulation, but PKG members are also to gather for the full 8 days (or actually all 7 days plus the Last Great Day) instead of the shortened 4 day event.  As the time to the return of Christ on May 27, 2012 grows shorter, the length of Feast observance grows longer despite the onset of the Great Tribulation.

A larger-than-normal group was in attendance in Cincinnati, including some from states as far away as Florida and Kansas and also from Ontario. The big attraction was that Wayne and Chris Matthews from Australia were there.  Ron had his three evangelists (Wrozek, Harrell, and Matthews) stand up for the benefit of those who did not recognize them.  Then he turned the service over to Evangelist Deputy Sheriff Wayne Matthews to deliver the sermon.

Wayne’s sermon and this post have the same title. Based on his earlier sermons, I expected some irony from Wayne and was not disappointed. He was in full cheerleader mode, and talked about sheep in Australia.  “Sheep don’t think a lot” and travel in herds.  One sheep will act as a leader, and all the other sheep will follow in single file.  Given these qualities, if the leader sheep goes over the edge of a cliff, the others may follow.  Wayne is like the sheep on the bottom left corner of the photo.  If you’d like to hear Wayne’s routine for yourself, download the latest sermon from the PKG website audio page and listen beginning at 1 hour and 6 minutes into the file.  (If you download the file after the announcements are edited out this coming weekend, the section of interest will probably begin at around 58 minutes into the file.)

After his description of sheep, Wayne advocated following Weinland, who somehow after ?God? puts it in the mind is proven to be a true prophet of God. Thinking is too difficult for the sheep, but Ron can handle it. Wayne warned against following the voice of a stranger, which these days usually appears on the Internet. “Don’t click on that.”  He may have been referring to me, since prospective member Roger changed his mind about joining PKG after reading my blog and considering the lack of prophetic fulfillment from Ron, despite a personal meeting with Deputy Sheriff Wayne. Unfortunately, Roger has decided to follow David Pack who while craftier than Ron is no better in the end.

Just in case you missed the comment by Aggie for another post, the Sixth Thunder sounded this week.  The article “10 Failed Predictions” on livescience.com includes a mention of Weinland, but he just barely made the cut at #10.

God’s Church Ministry, Fall 2008

According to God’s Church minister Ronald Weinland, the end times are upon us– again. His 2006 book “2008: God’s Final Witness” states that hundreds of millions of people will die, and by the end of 2006, “there will be a maximum time of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time of all human history. By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, and no longer exist as an independent nation.” As the book notes, “Ronald Weinland places his reputation on the line as the end-time prophet of God.”

We are now 47 weeks into the original Great Tribulation, and 7 weeks into the shortened Great Tribulation.  And I await my fate from the curse for a quick death from the inside that Ron issued against me 46 weeks ago.

On October 7, Evangelist/Deputy Sheriff Wayne Matthews gave the daily feast sermon in Rye, Victoria, Australia (near Melbourne).  (MP3 Download, right-click then save-as, or download Oct 7 sermon from this page) .  Wayne did not let on as to whether or not he’s found employment to replace that which he gave up early in 2008 to become one of Weinland’s hand-picked evangelists.  After all, back then it didn’t matter since no one would have jobs within a few months anyway.

Wayne talked about the tremendous growth of PKG in Australia since the 4 or 5 who were members several years ago.  He probably is referring to Peter Kay and his wife (since deceased) and Peter’s daughter Sharon and a couple of others.  I get the sense that there are several times that number in Australia now but probably not more than the 3 dozen or so members of this time last year.  Of the various provinces, there are only 4 members in Queensland (which is 5 times the size of Texas) which is fewer than last year, and still none from South Australia.

Beginning around 25 minutes into the sermon MP3 file, Wayne goes into a comedy routine.  First he proves that the Church of God – PKG is the true church because (1) it has “Church of God” in its name and (2) it has either an apostle or a prophet, well actually two prophets.  Flurry would qualify except that he rebelled against Joe Tkach — but somehow it was OK when Ron rebelled against Joe just a few years later.

He followed this “logic” by discussing the illogic of astrologers and soothsayers, and then described an episode of “Deal or No Deal” in which none of the astrologer/soothsayer contestants got it right, when some of them should have got it right just by chance.

Let’s compare that to Ron Weinland who has prophesied many things, of which only one has come true (sort of) — the economy.  Never mind that he’s prophesied the imminent collapse of the economy for years, and the economy while suffering has not collapsed.

Let me offer that my church is the true church.  The No Flavor Aid Church of God has “God” in its name, it’s led by a prophet (yours truly) whose prophecy actually came true, and who did not rebel against Joe Tkach.  This prophet has revealed new truth, which is that your living expenses (food, clothing, shelter, transportation, and medical) are not regarded as “increase” and are not subject to tithing.  But your disposable income is subject to tithing, so send it in.

Wayne is scheduled to deliver the weekly sermon this coming Saturday.  I wonder if he’ll deliver more gems such as this one or if he’ll deliver yet more “different thinking” as he did during the Days of Unleavened Bread.