Posts Tagged ‘Ordination of Women’

Come Back Up

Saturday, January 30th, 2010

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Minneapolis today, where things were moving slowly.  It was cold, and Ron was several minutes late getting the Internet streaming audio feed rolling.  Fewer traveled long distances than normal: a few from North Dakota and his elder Leonard McGlynn from Winnipeg, but no one from Wisconsin attended.

A few announcements.  Two-year-old Kenny’s open-heart surgery went well.  While in Dallas last weekend, he ordained Dave, Glen, Charles Blummer, Vera, and Peggy as associate elders.  It seems that Ron doesn’t truly appreciate my publishing the elders’ names as he claimed three weeks ago, since again he didn’t give any last names.

He spent several minutes reading an email clarifying his policy on attendance at his service.  One must be approved in order to regularly gather with other members to attend services.  (And to get approval, one must be paying tithes.)  However, close family members and even close friends may attend as a guest for a few times if not hostile to God’s prophet and one true church.

This was the last sermon of his Ordinations and Baptisms series.  Ron continued to dangle the carrot of the millions of people who will join PKG.  He related an anecdote of people being baptized would need to be reminded to “come back up”, as he remains high and dry on the side of the pool.  I would ask that all PKG members come back up out of the quagmire that is PKG.

This weekend is 121 weeks from the non-return of Jesus Christ on Pentecost of 2012.  It’s also 52 weeks since the unusual 2-day fast last year to pray for destruction and death from an increase in the thunders.  Next weekend is a 1-day fast and it is expected that the sermon will be less boring as the Son of Perdition reveals new signs and/or lying wonders while in Cincinnati.

Pressed Upon

Sunday, January 24th, 2010

Son of Perdition Ronald Weinland was in Dallas this weekend.  After services, the members were to standby for a special announcement.  The last time he did this was for Audra’s wedding reception.

Some PKG members are undergoing medical trials.  Hopefully Travis will come through the chemo treatment for his leukemia and 2-year-old Kenny’s heart surgery will also go well. Fortunately Weinland is not continuing the doctrine of his spiritual idol Herbert Armstrong against the use of medical care.   OTOH, Jim Sullivan, who was ordained as associate elder 3 weeks ago and spent his golden wedding anniversary traveling to see his spiritual idol Ron Weinland in Spokane two weeks ago, passed on.  Hopefully Jim’s widow Beverly will be able to deal with the disappointment on the afternoon of May 26, 2012 when they are not reunited since he is not resurrected as one of the sealed 144,000 and she is not converted to spirit being at that time.

This was mostly a boring sermon — no new titles or doctrines. Ron made a few half-hearted jabs against his critics, but mainly coasted on his theme of the upcoming millions who are to be baptized by his new elders.  Next week end is the approximate anniversary of the 2-day fast at the end of last January, and the following weekend (Feb 6) is a one-day fast.

So it’s timely to review the sermon that the Man of Sin Ronald Weinland delivered on Jan 31 of last year (19 MB audio MP3 download, right-click the link and Save-as).  Ron talked about how the members were to pray for an increase in the thunders beginning around 1 hour and 14 minutes in this file.  (If you download the sermon from the PKG website, these statements will be located a few minutes earlier in the recording since the announcements are redacted — that is unless he also redacted these statements which wouldn’t surprise me as he’s done this on other occasions). A few of his statements 51 weeks ago:

Can we grasp what it’s going to take to bring them to repentance?  … So what does it  take?  Suffering.  To think that you would pray for the suffering of some, for the death of some.  So that others could live.  …  So again, what is the purpose of our prayers, petitions and fasting before God? … That more be brought to repentance and acceptance of the truth by the timing, repetition, and power from unleashing far mightier thunders.  And as well the trumpets…  So think about those thunders and pray about them.   …. The majority is about our desire for the thunders … and pray about them that they be released with far greater power.

Talking about the first thunder (war), bemoaning the success of “the surge” in Iraq:

Pray about this, that there be more conflict. Pray that God stir things up with the first thunder, a terror of war.  Because only when people fear    they can come to repentance they won’t fear otherwise .  They’ve been so spaced out, it’s easy to slough them off with human reasoning  “Oh well it’s just time and chance   You want to pray that things be such that people stop saying that.  That people be brought to such realization, that they realize that no, this isn’t normal, and these things haven’t happened like this before.  Not this way.

In “2008 — God’s Final Witness”, Weinland likened the thunders to birth pains.  Birth pains increase in magnitude and frequency prior to birth. On page 82 of his fictional book:

The physical phase of transition that is occurring during this present Sixth Seal is the period when prophetic end-time events escalate, on a physical plane, with increasing destructive power that is best depicted as a pregnant woman in labor pains.

So after the Sixth Seal ended, he’s admitting that the actual thunders experienced are not like labor pains.  Then Ron continued on about the second thunder (earthquakes):

Are you comfortable about praying for massive earthquakes? You need to think about this because your asking for the death of others.  Because that’s what happens with a massive earthquake.  That’s what happens with a massive tsunami.  Or when a volcano goes off.  People die.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland continued on about the thunders in his sermon 51 weeks ago.  And in his sermon 57 weeks ago, he issued a death curse against me to speedily die from the inside.  Both statements of equivalent veracity.  Since the thunders did not intensify, he’s twisted and distorted what he said about the purpose of last year’s fast to credit it for the delay in the Great Tribulation.  So, maybe the fast is why Ron’s curse on me hasn’t taken effect.

Against Nature

Saturday, January 16th, 2010

Lion 250False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Los Angeles.  Even though he was speaking in the second largest metropolitan area in Manasseh and had people attending from San Jose, Utah, El Paso, and Arizona, as well as elder Ralph Dowd, evangelist Terry Wrozek, senior elder Ann Wrozek, and someone from the UK, the spokesman witness was able to speak to everyone present without sound amplification by having them move the chairs closer together.

Ron is looking forward to the elders training session at the end of February.  He cautioned his members that they should not travel to Cincinnati that weekend expecting to socialize with the new elders.  Nor should they stay in the same hotel with all the new elders, as they need to concentrate on learning their new duties.  I can state your duties very succinctly: refer every question to the FAQs on the church website and if that doesn’t work, pass the issue on to Ron.  Although Ron did pass the funeral for a member who died this week to senior elder Steve Dalrymple — I guess Ron’s too busy writing blog posts during the week to travel a couple of hundred miles.

SLioness 250urprisingly, Ron did not mention the tragedy unfolding in Haiti due to the severe earthquake experienced there.  But maybe not so surprising, since he’s switched from prophecy to the wonders of new doctrine.  Looks like we’ll have to wait until Feb 6 for the next dose of new “truth” from God’s end-time Elijah-to-come.

Ron continued on the topic of relationships between the sexes, and their “rolls”.  (”Roles” to the rest of us.)  According to Ron, it’s against nature for a male to have long hair and for a female to have short hair.  So here’s a little quiz.  Of the two pictures of the long-haired and short-haired animals shown on this post, which is the male and which is the female?  Check your answer here.

Now only 123 more weeks for Ron to tap dance for his members before the non-return of Jesus Christ.

A couple of notes:

Women and “The Curse”

Friday, January 15th, 2010

False Prophet Ronald Weinland has a new post up on his Wordpress blog.  Here it is for your convenience, and to provide for an opportunity to comment on it since he understandably turns commenting off.  I’ve added a [few quick comments of my own].

————–Ron Weinland’s Post  —————————————————————

The last posting on this site addressed God’s current revelation to the Church about His “Elijah to come” at this end-time. As was stated, that commission has been given to me to fulfill in its completeness and not as a “type,” which was partially fulfilled in John the Baptist and in Herbert W. Armstrong. God is now going to bring both rolls [sic] of these previous “types” into a complete and final fulfillment that ushers in the second coming of His Son as the Messiah (the Christ-the ordained ruler) over all mankind.

This posting cannot cover all of the exciting revelation that God is giving concerning what His purpose is and what is meant by the expression of “restoring all things” in the commission of the end-time Elijah. It is about a “work” that God is doing in and through His human instruments, primarily through His Church.

In order to receive a far greater understanding of the inspiration, plain truth, and excitement of what God is now revealing, I am encouraging every one of you (if you have not already done so) to listen to some of this new truth as it is covered far more thoroughly in the sermon on Dec. 26, 2009, entitled, “Restoring All Things,” and in the current sermon series entitled, “Ordinations & Baptisms.”

Finding Fault:
The numerous groups that have formed from the scattering that took place during the apostasy of the Worldwide Church of God in December, 1994, are busy responding to what God is currently revealing to the Church through me as His end-time Elijah. They are quick to find fault in order to belittle and ridicule what God is now revealing.
[Can anyone find a response from other than mine and a few other blogs? (None of which are part of  "the scattering".]

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Ron Gets Static

Saturday, January 9th, 2010

spokanetlFalse Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Spokane, after a trip back to Cincinnati during the week.  During the week he added yet one more associate elder:  Beth Bucheit is the mother-in-law of fellow associate elder Joey Shockey whose ordination was announced last weekend.  As a reminder, while I was able to supply last names for most the the first names that Ron gave, I’m still missing a few and would appreciate your help closing the gap.

Technical problems plagued Ron’s Internet streaming audio broadcast.  He lost connection twice, despite whatever precautions he took against static.  I can imagine Ron up there looking like Michael Jackson as he moonwalks through the scriptures wearing his static control glove.

Ron finally had the radio interview he had previously talked about.  But he’s not posting it, claiming the interviewer was dull.  Ron, how about posting it anyway and let us decide if it’s dull. I suspect it was rather the opposite, with the interviewer holding Ron’s feet to the fire about the failed prophecies in his book.

Weinland took a tour through history, mentioning his split-off from UCG.  In December of 1996 he sent out an email to all the UCG elders complaining about certain unauthorized expenditures.  According to Ron, after that email, the head of the UCG ethics committee called to visit, and then a week later called accusing Ron of having said certain things during the phone call.  But Ron had a recording of the conversation and within a year that individual was dead.  Wonder if Ron placed a death curse on him at that time the way he did me 55 weeks ago.  Ron resigned from UCG sometime in May of 1997, although recently he has claimed that his resignation was on Pentecost which in 1997 was in June.

Ron gave a cheerleading session for the new changes in the status of women.  The spotlight is being focused on the church, and Ron appreciated my putting names on the Internet.  Ron, if you like it so much why not add a page to your website and put up the names and photos of all of your elders?  And you could start by giving last names during your ordination announcements, which you did not today for Beth Bucheit.  That is if you really feel that what I’m doing is helping and you’re not saying this as a lame attempt at reverse psychology.  If you want to paint my small blog as “big things taking place” and even the Sixth Thunder, well then, have at it. :-D

One thing that may change is allowing women to preach and give prayers.  Ron was emphatic that wouldn’t happen.  But he was also emphatic in December of 2008 that Laura would be the only one ordained.  And he was emphatic back this summer that he was not an Apostle.  And he’s quite emphatic that to deny Herbert Armstrong was the end-time Elijah to to deny God.  God-denying Ronald Weinland.

Ron talked about all the people who are waiting for him to admit to being a false prophet.  I don’t think there is anyone who is waiting for that, but if there are I am not one of them.  When Ron gave his “If by Pentecost” declaration on March 29, 2008 promising to quit preaching and admit being a false prophet by the end of July of 2008 if his prophecies did not materialize, my immediate response was he wouldn’t do it.  Ron will still not admit to being a false prophet when Jesus Christ does not return 124 weeks from now.  Let me emphasize: Ronald Weinland will never admit to being a false prophet. Not even on May 28, 2012.