Posts Tagged ‘Jim Jamieson’

Falsely Accused of Godly Courage

Saturday, May 3rd, 2014

While False Prophet Ronald Weinland continues to serve his 42-month prison sentence (reduced for good conduct to 36 months and change), surrogates have been filling in for his speaking duties.  This week, two of his senior elders took a turn by giving a split sermon.  I hadn’t been paying much attention, but Ex-Cogger posted a comment pointing out something that Jim Jamieson stated:

Look at the two witnesses, God’s two prophets at this time, just not only what they’ve gone through since the Apostasy and how God built courage in them and courage to, you know…”No, I’m not here for a paycheck. I’m here to obey God,” and to walk away from that, and beginning this, starting this end-time work. Look at where we’re at right now. One of, you know, God’s prophets sitting falsely accused in prison, and then his wife, the prophet of God is, you know, out there spearheading this Church and carrying it on and doing the administration and being able to get up in front of congregations as she visits and update all of us and keep us updated on Ron and whatnot. And you know, just the courage that’s there with both of them. And, you know, we need to pray for not only God’s two witnesses, to give them Godly courage, but for each and every one of us, you know. How has God prepared us with Godly courage for what is ahead, you know? And He has, and we might not realize it, but the trials we go through and overcome, well, we learn that, you know, to trust in God and have that Godly courage.

Falsely accused?  Let’s see.  An IRS agent spent 3 1/2 years investigating Ron before an indictment was brought.  This evidence was present in open court in a trial before a jury of his peers who were pretty disgusted by what the heard and quickly found him guilty.  And then his wife?  At his sentencing hearing, the judge stated that he considered Laura an equal conspirator with Ron and on that basis declined to enhance his sentence for being the leader of the criminal conspiracy to cheat Cesar of that which was his.

As far as Ron “no here for a paycheck”, here’s what else Ron had to say about paychecks.  In his sermon of December 29, 2007, he had this to say about what would be the case if his prophecies were not fulfilled:

There’s really a simple answer — he’s a false prophet. I get tons of email every day from people saying ‘We’ll, I guess in 2009 you’re going to be saying this or saying that, or trying to explain to people..” No, I’m done. Just to be real candid with you, so people know and people understand, ……, again that’s the only answer. There is only one answer. …. The world is not like that. You know people who are doing what is not right and they claim certain things or say certain things about what is given to them, and it doesn’t come to pass — then they have to madly change everything and do something else. Or say ‘God showed me this, and I just didn’t understand this, or God has revealed this to me now, and blah blah blah blah. ’ Because when it comes down to it, it’s about the paycheck. It’s about what are they going to do from here on out.

Jim, you’ve been in PKG long enough to have heard Ron make that statement.  You’ve been in PKG long enough to see Ron do exactly what he criticized other false prophets for doing.  You have court transcripts detailing Ron’s tax evasion, available on this website under “Criminal Case” linked at the top of every page on the website.  These transcripts are available directly on line from the federal court.  With all the Lies and Broken Promises Ron has uttered and you have heard yourself, you think he was falsely accused?  Willful ignorance and self deception.

Update: Jocko pointed out another segment in Jim’s sermon:

You know, I know somebody that’s left recently, that that was what they, when they read the book, 2008, they said that’s what proved to them that this was God’s Church and whatnot. But it’s still true! I mean, you know, he gave that sermon in December of ’94, and 40 Sabbaths to the hour… And we have two people that were in that audience that can witness to that, and you can pull up his death certificate. Anyway, my point being is that did happen. And that individual that I was speaking of, you know, okay, if that happened, it’s still true, and that’s what they considered to be the thing that proved that this was God’s Church. But they’re no longer with us!

Jim, maybe these people decided that Ron’s 100% failure at prophesying proved it wasn’t.  Or maybe they read the part in my Lies and Broken Promises page that proveded that it wasn’t “to the hour” when Tkach died 40 weeks later.  Jim, please: do pull up Tkach’s death certificate and see what the hour of his death was.  You should definitely do that.

Satan Is Not a Happy Camper

Sunday, July 4th, 2010

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Warrenton, Missouri this weekend.  Warrenton is between St. Louis and Columbia, Missouri and is where his elder Dee lives.  Despite Dee being the probable hostess for the out-of-towners, the local elders with male plumbing (Shawn and Sam) got to give the prayers and Sam did a better job than during the last visit.

Ron announced that his elder (and wife of senior elder Jim Jamieson) Tina has experienced liver failure.  I lost a co-worker to liver failure after a transplant was rejected, and like Tina was also in his 50’s.  Hopefully Tina’s situation will resolve better.

This was part 2 of his “More Time” sermon series.  It promises to be a long series, with Ron still dangling a carrot as yet undelivered.  Probably yet another straw wrested from Stong’s Concordance and the calendar.  During yesterday’s sermon, Ron revisited his timeline (the current one, his second revised) starting with Christmas of 2007, Feast of Trumpets of 2008 being 280 days later, etc, etc.  He also reviewed the lead-up to the timelines beginning with the opening of the 6th seal on 9/11 and writing his two books, including his heart attack suffered in August of 2005 while pulling weeds from a ditch at his mansion on the golf course. Also one of his Mediterranean cruises back in 2003.  He did not revisit how it was that he can to be a prophet beginning in 1997.

During the sermon yesterday I was preached at twice, receiving this email:

Do you believe there will be two end-time prophets that God will raise up in these last days.It speaks of them in the book of Malachi 4:5.It is said that one will be Elijah and the other Melchizedek.As I begin to read about the so called Prophet Ronald Weinland on your blog I decided to send you this e-mail.I don’t know who  they will be but I do know that I am an end-time Apostle/Prophet of Christ sent by God.I think you want to meet me and hear what I have to say .In the first 15 pages of Ronald Weinland book 2008 there is one thing that I know is true.There is a Prophet that have and record events that will take place and visions given to him by God.Mighty things God have shown him.He is being taught at this time and being prepared to go forth and speak God’s word .The end is near and so is Jesus Christ return.

Well, Alvin, if you are a “Prophet of Christ sent by God”, how about some proof?  Give us a prophecy, specific and useful.  How about some winning lottery numbers?  In the meantime, you should learn some grammar or gather some acolytes who will edit your writings for you, as Larry Spivey does for Ron.

A Full Deck and a Joker

Saturday, January 2nd, 2010

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from Portland today, continuing on the theme rolled out in last week’s sermon, that of new ordinations including women.

JokerCardDuring the sermon, Ron indicated that this latest rubbish will be organized as new numbered truths:

  • #51: Ron is the final Elijah-to-come, John the Baptist and Herbie were only “types”.
  • #52: Removal of the curse of Eve from women, restoring them to the rightful place in the family
  • #53: The ordination of women is allowed

According to Ron, credit for the new truths is given to the Silent Witness who pointed out certain things.  Perhaps Laura will be promoted to Apostle as a result.  While he hasn’t posted these new “truths” on his website, he has done a little editing on two of the first fifty “truths” which I have marked to indicate the added words and deleted words.

Edits to Truth #30

Matthew 24 is first and foremost about the Church at the end-time. It is not about physical events in the end time, although these are a type of some of the events that will occur. As Jesus Christ gave prophecy concerning events that would lead to His coming as the Messiah, he first spoke of events that would occur in the Church (vs. 4-21). These events have been believed to be about physical events that would happen on earth, but they are about the Church.

God has now shown that there is a duality concerning both the Church and the world that applies to verses 21 and 22. All these prophesied events in Mat. 24 lead up to the time of the very coming of the Messiah to this earth (vs. 29-31).

Edits to Truth #39

Herbert W. Armstrong was a “type” of the prophesied “Elijah to come,” as he who restored all truth essential to salvation to the Church of God during the Philadelphia Era.

Ron has yet to edit his FAQ page which indicates that he is a God-denier just like Rod Meredith for not recognizing Herbert Armstrong as the prophesied Elijah-to-come.

Ron warned that people will lose friends after ordination.  Not because the ordained one changed but because friends become jealous as happened to him.  Riiiiggghhht.  I’m totally sure that Ron did not change even an iota when ordained as a local elder in Houston back in April of 1981.

Ron announced that 57 members had been ordained over the past couple of weeks (or would be shortly) including 31 women.  My count of the names that Ron announced was 58 (including the 3 evangelists’ wives announced last weekend) and 59 if you count Willem Henderson who was promoted to senior elder.  But Ron is the one who has the minor in math so my count must be incorrect.  Far be it from me to twist and distort.

Ron only gave first names, because of all the crackpots, kooks, or absolute liars out there who like to twist and distort.  If you are one of those, then stop reading since I have last names for most of the new elders.  And if you know who any of these crackpot, looks, and absolute liars are who like to twist and distort about PKG members, please leave a comment identifying them.  Names in bold are full elders, others are associate elders:

  • Florida: Newt Carter and Diane
  • Georgia: Larry Spivey (who edits Ron’s books),  Paul and Doris Giles, April Young (mother of Paul), and Alan Giles (son of Paul)
  • Pacific Northwest: Bill and Diana Carr, and Jim Sullivan.  Also Tina Jamieson, wife of senior elder Jim Jamieson
  • Tennessee: Gerald
  • Detroit: Stan Watson, Helen Terlecki, and Parker (Terry’s 23-year-old son).  Helen and Parker have been associated with Ron since 1995.
  • Mississippi: Lori Williams, who is Laura’s friend
  • Los Angeles: Dottie Smith
  • Sacramento, California area: Russ Shoemaker
  • Lubbock, TX: Fredda Maeker
  • Louisville area: Linda (Cookie) Fields (wife of elder Curtis Fields), Beverly VanNorman, and Tony Blair
  • Illinois: Lynnette Eckhardt
  • Buffalo NY area: John, Richard & Marie, Bonnie, Bob and Donna Madison
  • Maine: Vicki (Vicki Snowdeal passed away from cancer last spring.  But I guess there could be another Vicki from Maine in COG-PKG).
  • Dallas: Glen Gagas
  • Missouri: Dee Wobbe
  • Utah: Debra Tiernan
  • Belgium: Mieke Van Lerberghe (wife of elder Gijs)
  • Netherlands: Edwin Van Horne
  • Germany: Jeremy Weinland (Ron’s 24-year-old son)
  • Alberta: Eric and Kalee Wiesman
  • Manitoba: George Black
  • Australia: Peter Herrmann, Derek Mendygral, and Zoran Illitch (translated Ron’s books to Italian)
  • New Zealand: Rex Blake
  • UK: Una Milne (wife of senior elder William)
  • Cincinnati region: Jenny, Patty Dalrymple (wife of senior elder Stephen), Tim Brown, Joey Shockey, April Combs, Sandy Bays, Willy and Lois Doemeland, Tom and Barb Volle

To round things out, Weinland’s daughter and church bookkeeper Audra L. Little is to be ordained as senior elder.   Perhaps this status will help her if she goes from being a potential IRS criminal investigation target to an actual one.  The IRS performs extra reviews on a case against someone with a religious title prior to recommending prosecution to the Department of Justice.

If anyone has any corrections or additions to this list, any misspellings, please leave a comment or email me.  I don’t want to be accused of twisting and distorting.

My verse of the day is Romans 12:14 which reads:

Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

Ron forgot about that one 54 weeks ago when he issued his death curse against me to die speedily from the inside.

Hail Columbia

Saturday, September 12th, 2009

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke today from Columbia, MO.  This trip was not announced in advance on his website — supposedly it was in honor of the golden wedding anniversary of his elder there, Sam Qualls.  Guess it was a last minute thing that came up unexpectedly.  The Harrells were there as well as was his regular traveling crew from the Cincy area: Ralph Dowd, daughter Audra and her husband Chris.  Ron was fighting a headache kicked up by his allergies to goldenrod and ragweed.

Newly ordained evangelist Terry Wrozek is placed in authority over the area he had as senior elder and is also over senior elder Jim Jamieson.  Ron’s government structure is now in place to handle the millions of people who will soon be joining the Church of God – PKG as Ron’s prophesies finally start happening.  But Ron’s been saying that since the beginning of 2008.  And for years he’s been saying that the media would be seeking him out as disaster after disaster unfolded.

FOT_hotel_1The Feast of Tabernacles is in 3 weeks, and a few days later members will assemble in hotels like the one pictured here for the last 3 days of the feast and then the Last Great Day.  This coming Saturday is the 40th sabbath of the Great Tribulation and the Feast of Trumpets.  I’ll take that as a judgment of Weinland as a prophet, just as the 40-week period from Christmas of 2007 to Trumpets of 2008 was a judgment on Satan.

The sermon was about fellowship, that members should avoid cliques and gravitating toward those who are similar and ignoring others.  Ron claims that he is more comfortable with the working men who are in jobs which are not well regarded.  I think Ron should go with that — maybe his brother Steve would give him a job at his trash hauling company.

People should be forgiving of others, even those not in his church.  Of course that doesn’t apply to the Two Witnesses, who are allowed to issue death curses against those who criticize him — just like the one he issued for my speedy death 38 weeks ago.