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A Little Testimony

Wednesday, July 4th, 2012

Descriptions of the trial are continuing from Juror #215.  Here is his description of the testimony of one of the prosecution’s star witnesses, a senior elder in “God’s church”.

———————————  From Juror #215 ————————————-
——- Audra Weinland Little – The Apple Doesn’t Fall Far From the Tree ———-

By far, the prosecution witness who spent the most time on the stand was Audra (Weinland) Little. She took the stand immediately following the lunch break on Thursday, and the prosecution questioned her until we ended for the day on Thursday, and then picked up again where they left off on Friday morning. By the time that the defense finished their cross-examination and the prosecution completed their redirect questioning, it was noon on Friday. She sat on the witness stand for approximately 6 hours total. {For those who might not be aware, Audra is Ron’s daughter and the church bookkeeper.  In November of 2009, the government had to make a federal case of it to compel her to answer questions about church finances.  Audra was also ordained a senior elder early in 2010. Mike(DDTFA)}

Her testimony began much the same way as the other church members and elders, with an overview of the church structure and tithe systems, and a discussion of saving their second tithe to travel on holy days.

They talked about when she became involved as the bookkeeper for the church in 2007, and moved to the northern Kentucky area to be closer to her parents and to work out of the church “office” in the Weinland’s basement. To actually call her a bookkeeper is a bit of an overstatement.  In listening to her description of her job, her duties involved depositing checks and writing checks, but that was about it. Her daily duties involved:
– Driving to the main post office in Cincinnati to the church’s PO box to get the mail, which mainly consisted of tithes sent in by the members
– Filling out deposit slips for the church accounts and taking the tithe checks to the bank
– Recording the amount of each member’s tithes so that a summary of annual tithes could be sent to each member each year.
– Writing reimbursement checks to any elders who had incurred church expenses
– Transferring money from the church accounts to the Weinland personal accounts to pay the credit cards
– Paying the credit card bills monthly to bring the balance of each down to $0 each month
– In 2008, when there were regular charges being made to the cards by Google for the advertising, she would also monitor the card balances regularly mid-month, and would make extra card payments to keep the balances under their credit limits.

She testified that when she first moved to the Cincinnati area, that she already owned her own car at that time, but that shortly after her father purchased her a new BMW due to the fact that her job required so much driving back and forth to the post office and to the bank.

The church had, during the time in question, about 10 bank accounts at 6 different banks. There were three persons authorized to access those accounts:
– Ronald Weinland
– Laura Weinland
– Audra Weinland

The Weinlands, during the time in question, had about 8 domestic bank accounts at 5 different banks. Again, there were three persons authorized to access those accounts:
– Ronald Weinland
– Laura Weinland
– Audra Weinland

The Weinlands had about 6 credit card accounts from 4 different credit card companies, each account with a $50,000 credit limit. In some cases, for a single account, there were separate cards for both Ron and Laura.

Audra’s testimony is where the accounting process to pay the bills was revealed. The bills for the card would come in, or Audra would check the balance online. Audra would transfer the full amount of the bill from a church account into a Weinland account, and then would pay off the card from a Weinland account. This was the process that was established by her mother prior to Audra’s employment by the church, so she just went along with it. Audra made no attempts to audit the credit card statements for the nature of the expenses, she just kept paying them off monthly.

The prosecution was showing checks written and electronic debit records from the Weinland accounts as well as large transfers from the church to the personal accounts, and attempted to ask Audra what each of these were for. Audra stated that without seeing the coordinating credit card statements from the same time periods, there would be no way for her to remember. Well Audra, since you asked…

The prosecution began showing the credit card statements to the court. This was really the first time, other than the handful of receipts that were shown during Steve Dalrymple’s testimony, that we got a really good look at how the money was being spent each month. We saw dozens upon dozens of credit card statements, with a wide variety of charges. I’ve already discussed in prior posts what kinds of things were being purchased, so I won’t rehash that again now, but this was the big courtroom moment when it was all being drug from the shadows and subjected to the light of truth. Audra insisted that checking the validity of each of the charges was not her job. Her job was just to keep the bills paid and keep the balance of the cards down each month so that they could keep traveling around the world for the church.

Audra also handled paying all of her parent’s household bills out of the Weinland accounts for the regular monthly utilities, cable, phone, etc. Since Laura also had access to both the church and personal accounts, it was not uncommon for Laura to transfer funds from church to personal accounts as well. We looked at many checks written by Audra out of the Weinland’s “main” checking account, which logically appeared to be the payments for these utilities each month.

Then, the prosecution began showing canceled checks from one of the Weinland’s secondary accounts, which were also written by Audra. These appeared to be checks paid to all of the same utilities, cable, phone, sanitation, etc. as the previous set of checks from the main account, but in different, smaller amounts. The prosecution asked Audra whose utilities these checks were paying, and she claimed to not remember. They asked her if, in fact, these were HER utilities that she was paying out of one of her parents’ accounts each month, and she claimed to not remember. We looked at check after check; dozens if not hundreds of checks, all written by Audra from this secondary checking account, all paying monthly utility bills. At one point, Audra was visibly wearing down from the repeated questioning. Each time that the prosecution showed a check and asked if this check was paying one of her bills, she at first claimed to not remember, but this reached a tipping point where it was obvious that she just couldn’t continue to lie anymore. When the prosecution asked if the next check was paying her phone bill, the answer was, “yes.” When asked if the next check was paying her electric, the answer was, “yes.” Deposits into this account were made by Laura. Ron later testified when asked about this secondary account that this account was opened specifically for the handling of all of Audra’s living expenses.

There were a great many things revealed during Audra’s testimony, including the fact that checks were written paying Jeremy’s tuition, but not that this was considered a “scholarship.” That scholarship information did not come out until Ron’s testimony.

On the one hand, the 6 hours of Audra’s testimony was very dry and businesslike. We looked at hundreds of pages of financial documents, statements, bills, and canceled checks. On the other hand, it was clear that each of the pieces was another nail in the coffin to prove that the Weinlands were getting more money funneled into their checking accounts to pay their own family expenses than they had reported on their 1040s that were seen on the first day of the trial. All of the evidence was there, presented during Audra’s testimony that just needed to be assembled into the big picture. The very next witness to take the stand, of course, was the IRS Special Agent who had spent countless hours putting the jumbled mess of corruption together into that big picture, which was really the final nail in the coffin, so to speak.

———-  End of Juror #215’s description of A Little testimony ——————

Juror #215, thank you for this description.  I don’t understand why the government has not indicted Audra and Laura as co-conspirators along with Ron.

A Full Deck and a Joker

Saturday, January 2nd, 2010

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from Portland today, continuing on the theme rolled out in last week’s sermon, that of new ordinations including women.

JokerCardDuring the sermon, Ron indicated that this latest rubbish will be organized as new numbered truths:

  • #51: Ron is the final Elijah-to-come, John the Baptist and Herbie were only “types”.
  • #52: Removal of the curse of Eve from women, restoring them to the rightful place in the family
  • #53: The ordination of women is allowed

According to Ron, credit for the new truths is given to the Silent Witness who pointed out certain things.  Perhaps Laura will be promoted to Apostle as a result.  While he hasn’t posted these new “truths” on his website, he has done a little editing on two of the first fifty “truths” which I have marked to indicate the added words and deleted words.

Edits to Truth #30

Matthew 24 is first and foremost about the Church at the end-time. It is not about physical events in the end time, although these are a type of some of the events that will occur. As Jesus Christ gave prophecy concerning events that would lead to His coming as the Messiah, he first spoke of events that would occur in the Church (vs. 4-21). These events have been believed to be about physical events that would happen on earth, but they are about the Church.

God has now shown that there is a duality concerning both the Church and the world that applies to verses 21 and 22. All these prophesied events in Mat. 24 lead up to the time of the very coming of the Messiah to this earth (vs. 29-31).

Edits to Truth #39

Herbert W. Armstrong was a “type” of the prophesied “Elijah to come,” as he who restored all truth essential to salvation to the Church of God during the Philadelphia Era.

Ron has yet to edit his FAQ page which indicates that he is a God-denier just like Rod Meredith for not recognizing Herbert Armstrong as the prophesied Elijah-to-come.

Ron warned that people will lose friends after ordination.  Not because the ordained one changed but because friends become jealous as happened to him.  Riiiiggghhht.  I’m totally sure that Ron did not change even an iota when ordained as a local elder in Houston back in April of 1981.

Ron announced that 57 members had been ordained over the past couple of weeks (or would be shortly) including 31 women.  My count of the names that Ron announced was 58 (including the 3 evangelists’ wives announced last weekend) and 59 if you count Willem Henderson who was promoted to senior elder.  But Ron is the one who has the minor in math so my count must be incorrect.  Far be it from me to twist and distort.

Ron only gave first names, because of all the crackpots, kooks, or absolute liars out there who like to twist and distort.  If you are one of those, then stop reading since I have last names for most of the new elders.  And if you know who any of these crackpot, looks, and absolute liars are who like to twist and distort about PKG members, please leave a comment identifying them.  Names in bold are full elders, others are associate elders:

  • Florida: Newt Carter and Diane
  • Georgia: Larry Spivey (who edits Ron’s books),  Paul and Doris Giles, April Young (mother of Paul), and Alan Giles (son of Paul)
  • Pacific Northwest: Bill and Diana Carr, and Jim Sullivan.  Also Tina Jamieson, wife of senior elder Jim Jamieson
  • Tennessee: Gerald
  • Detroit: Stan Watson, Helen Terlecki, and Parker (Terry’s 23-year-old son).  Helen and Parker have been associated with Ron since 1995.
  • Mississippi: Lori Williams, who is Laura’s friend
  • Los Angeles: Dottie Smith
  • Sacramento, California area: Russ Shoemaker
  • Lubbock, TX: Fredda Maeker
  • Louisville area: Linda (Cookie) Fields (wife of elder Curtis Fields), Beverly VanNorman, and Tony Blair
  • Illinois: Lynnette Eckhardt
  • Buffalo NY area: John, Richard & Marie, Bonnie, Bob and Donna Madison
  • Maine: Vicki (Vicki Snowdeal passed away from cancer last spring.  But I guess there could be another Vicki from Maine in COG-PKG).
  • Dallas: Glen Gagas
  • Missouri: Dee Wobbe
  • Utah: Debra Tiernan
  • Belgium: Mieke Van Lerberghe (wife of elder Gijs)
  • Netherlands: Edwin Van Horne
  • Germany: Jeremy Weinland (Ron’s 24-year-old son)
  • Alberta: Eric and Kalee Wiesman
  • Manitoba: George Black
  • Australia: Peter Herrmann, Derek Mendygral, and Zoran Illitch (translated Ron’s books to Italian)
  • New Zealand: Rex Blake
  • UK: Una Milne (wife of senior elder William)
  • Cincinnati region: Jenny, Patty Dalrymple (wife of senior elder Stephen), Tim Brown, Joey Shockey, April Combs, Sandy Bays, Willy and Lois Doemeland, Tom and Barb Volle

To round things out, Weinland’s daughter and church bookkeeper Audra L. Little is to be ordained as senior elder.   Perhaps this status will help her if she goes from being a potential IRS criminal investigation target to an actual one.  The IRS performs extra reviews on a case against someone with a religious title prior to recommending prosecution to the Department of Justice.

If anyone has any corrections or additions to this list, any misspellings, please leave a comment or email me.  I don’t want to be accused of twisting and distorting.

My verse of the day is Romans 12:14 which reads:

Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

Ron forgot about that one 54 weeks ago when he issued his death curse against me to die speedily from the inside.

Compelling Audra

Thursday, November 19th, 2009

US Federal Magistrate Judge Wehrman ruled today on the government’s motion as described in my last post to compel Audra Little to provide testimony to the IRS.  Prior to the court hearing, Audra filed an affidavit stating:

1. My name is Audra L. Little;

2. My father, Ronald E. Weinland, is the subject of a criminal investigation by [the IRS];

3. I am aware that [the IRS special agent] has contacted me, as well as other friends and family members, employees and/or acquaintances of my father.  Moreover, several of these individuals have advised me that [the IRS special agent] has referred to me as a “potential target” in her investigation.

Audra’s lawyer filed a response to the government’s motion stating that due to Fifth Amendment considerations:

Without a grant of immunity the Respondent (Audra) should not be compelled to testify herein.

In the opinion issued by the court, Audra does not have the right under the Fifth Amendment to refuse to to appear and testify before the IRS.  However, she is still able to assert her Fifth Amendment rights by refusing to answer specific questions that may incriminate her.  But questions that incriminate only Daddy must be answered.  The court issued an order compelling Audra to appear before the IRS special agent to testify in response to the IRS administrative summons.

Audra, Audra, Audra.  What’s the problem?  Your daddy teaches that one should pay their taxes to civil government.  And being a Christian, he wouldn’t have broken the ninth commandment when he filed his 1040, would he?  On second thought, filing a fraudulent tax return is not bearing false witness against one’s neighbor.  So lying is not sinning then, is it?  But how about the seventh commandment?  Or is that which is Caesar’s not really Caesar’s, but Daddy’s.  Because after all whatever he has is God’s.

My expectation is that today’s court ruling is not the end of the case.  Audra will probably appear before the IRS special agent in response to the summons as ordered by the court.   And then she’ll assert Fifth Amendment rights and refuse to answer each and every question asked of her, requiring further litigation.

As Daddy Ron would put it: “Delay, Delay, Delay.”  Delays and Audra’s daddy go hand-in-hand.  Delay of the Great Tribulation.  Delay of the fulfillment of the first phase of the Fifth Thunder that was to prove that Audra’s daddy is a true prophet of God (the deaths of 5 specific ministers).  And delay of my promised speedy death from the inside from the curse the Spokesman Witness issued against me nearly 48 weeks ago.

IRS Criminal Investigation Seeks “A Little” Information

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

On August 10, 2009, an IRS Criminal Investigation special agent served COG-PKG’s bookkeeper with an administrative summons requiring her appearance before the IRS in Florence, KY on August 21, 2009 to give testimony to support the criminal investigation of False Prophet Ronald Weinland.  According to court filings associated with the summons, with direct quotes from the filings:

  • The IRS is “conducting a criminal investigation as to whether Ronald E. Weinland (“Weinland”) committed any offense under the Internal Revenue Code by willfully failing to report income earned during tax years 2004 through 2008.”
  • “Little is employed by the Church of God performing bookkeeping services and as a personal assistant to Weinland.”
  • “The information sought from Little by the summons is necessary to properly investigate whether Weinland committed an offense under the Internal Revenue Code for tax years 2004 through 2008.”
  • Restated: “The purpose of the investigation is to determine whether Weinland committed an offense under the Internal Revenue Code by willfully failing to report all of the income that he earned from the Church of God. [The IRS] is attempting to determine the amount of income Weinland earned from the records prepared by Little, who performs bookkeeping services for the Church of God.”

irscibadgeBefore her September, 2008 marriage to Christopher Little, Audra Little was known as Audra Weinland since she is the daughter of the Two Witnesses.  Apparently she inherited her mother’s financial management abilities and is also a member of Team Weinland as the church bookkeeper.  The summons was served on Audra at 11:05 AM on a Monday morning while she was at daddy’s house, suggesting that she is not otherwise employed apart from as bookkeeper and personal assistant to the Spokesman Witness.  Yet she is able to afford to buy a nice home in a nice neighborhood several miles away from daddy’s house.

On August 20, an attorney informed the IRS that he represented Audra Little, who would not be appearing the following day to testify, asserting unspecified constitutional rights/protections.  In response, the Tax Division of the US Department of Justice filed a motion on October 14 in federal court seeking to enforce the summons issued to Audra Little.  Administrative summonses are not self-enforcing as are subpoenas. Audra has been ordered to appear in federal court in Covington, KY before Judge Wehrman at 9:30 on November 19 for a hearing to determine whether she should be compelled to comply with the summons.

From the court calendar (Audra, tomorrow you should bring a book to read or some knitting since there are 5 other cases scheduled for the same time in the same courtroom):




Court Room: 3

Case Number: 2:09mc173 USA v. Little

Plaintiff: USA

Defendant: Audra Little

Type of Proceedings: Show Cause Hearing


Judge: JGW

CRT-RM Deputy: Stoneking

Court Reporter: Averdick


What constitutional right could Audra’s lawyer be talking about?  The only one I can think of is the fifth amendment right under the US Constitution against being compelled to be a witness against herself.  Which makes one wonder what criminal acts she could have committed. I believe that a fifth-amendment objection could be overcome if the DoJ decides to grant her immunity from prosecution. And a bit of Internet legal research suggests that assertion of fifth amendment rights may not apply under these circumstances anyway. But these legal theories or any other discussion on my blog should not be considered as legal advice since I am not a lawyer.  So maybe there’s another legal basis on which she could refuse to testify — anyone have any idea what that could be? But then again, maybe she’s just stalling the process to give the Great Tribulation time to materialize and shut down the IRS before it can finish its investigation.  Update: As described in my next post, my legal musings were pretty close.

The court filings from Weinland’s 2008 lawsuit against the government only revealed that Weinland was under criminal investigation for unspecified violations of the tax code. The latest court filings are more informative, confirming what I expected — that False Prophet Ronald Weinland is suspected of a legal-source tax crime, that of failing to report income legally earned (since being a false prophet and asking people to send you their life savings is unfortunately NOT illegal).  The court filings also show that the criminal investigation is continuing, and that the IRS has not dropped the investigation for lack of prosecution potential.  What really puzzles me is why tax year 2008 was added to the investigation.  Didn’t Ron realize that he could have gotten an extension for filing his 2008 taxes at least until October?  And that he couldn’t be investigated for tax year 2008 before he filed? Yet he must have filed his 2008 taxes by April 15 for tax year 2008 to appear on the summons issued in August.  Guess I shouldn’t expect too much logical thinking from Ron, given that he claims that he and his wife are the Two Witnesses and now also claims that he is an apostle.

Audra, since your daddy teaches that one should comply with the laws of civil government and render to Caesar that which is Caesar’s, then you’ve complied with the law and properly reported the income that the Church of God paid your daddy — right?  So why not just yield to the process like your daddy says, and get it over with?  Or is Daddy’s admonition to pay your taxes in the same category with his death curse issued 47 weeks ago for me to quickly die from the inside?

Hail Columbia

Saturday, September 12th, 2009

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke today from Columbia, MO.  This trip was not announced in advance on his website — supposedly it was in honor of the golden wedding anniversary of his elder there, Sam Qualls.  Guess it was a last minute thing that came up unexpectedly.  The Harrells were there as well as was his regular traveling crew from the Cincy area: Ralph Dowd, daughter Audra and her husband Chris.  Ron was fighting a headache kicked up by his allergies to goldenrod and ragweed.

Newly ordained evangelist Terry Wrozek is placed in authority over the area he had as senior elder and is also over senior elder Jim Jamieson.  Ron’s government structure is now in place to handle the millions of people who will soon be joining the Church of God – PKG as Ron’s prophesies finally start happening.  But Ron’s been saying that since the beginning of 2008.  And for years he’s been saying that the media would be seeking him out as disaster after disaster unfolded.

FOT_hotel_1The Feast of Tabernacles is in 3 weeks, and a few days later members will assemble in hotels like the one pictured here for the last 3 days of the feast and then the Last Great Day.  This coming Saturday is the 40th sabbath of the Great Tribulation and the Feast of Trumpets.  I’ll take that as a judgment of Weinland as a prophet, just as the 40-week period from Christmas of 2007 to Trumpets of 2008 was a judgment on Satan.

The sermon was about fellowship, that members should avoid cliques and gravitating toward those who are similar and ignoring others.  Ron claims that he is more comfortable with the working men who are in jobs which are not well regarded.  I think Ron should go with that — maybe his brother Steve would give him a job at his trash hauling company.

People should be forgiving of others, even those not in his church.  Of course that doesn’t apply to the Two Witnesses, who are allowed to issue death curses against those who criticize him — just like the one he issued for my speedy death 38 weeks ago.