Sevens
I took a quick read through Revelation. I’ve outlined it below in the sequence that it’s presented, and without explanation of the symbology. The symbols are easy to get mixed up, it has even happened to Weinland. An outline is useful because of all the “sevens” to track and sevens of one thing are nested within sevens of another thing with up to two levels of nesting. Here goes:
1st Seal, White Horse Rev 6:1-2 (According to Weinland, this happened on Dec 17, 1994 when Joseph Tkach gave a sermon in Atlanta changing doctrine in the Worldwide Church of God)
2nd Seal, Red Horse incites wars Rev 6:3-4 (According to Weinland, this is the spiritual warfare resulting from the breakup of the Worldwide Church of God)
3rd Seal, Black Horse Rev 6:5-6 (According to Weinland, this is a famine in the teaching of God’s word according to the interpretations of Herbert Armstrong)
4th Seal, Pale Horse ridden by Death, kills 1/4th of the earth Rev 6:7-8 (According to Weinland, a continuation and worsening of the first 3 seals within the split-off churches from the Worldwide Church of God)
5th Seal, Martyrs told to wait longer for justice Rev 6:9-11 (Although not stated by Weinland this way, the fifth seal is the establishment of the Church of God PKG to ready for the follow on events)
6th Seal A great earthquake, sun turns black, Rev 6:12-17 (Sep 11, 2001 according to Weinland)
144,00 are sealed Rev chapter 7 (September 30, 2008 according to Ron)
7th Seal Rev 8:1 (Nov 14, 2008 according to Ron under his second timeline. In his first timeline, Feb 2, 2008.)
Silence for about ½ hour (a 30-day period according to Weinland)
1st Trumpet, hail and fire mixed with blood, burns 1/3 of the earth and trees, also all the green grass Rev 8:7 (Dec 14, 2008 according to Ron under his second timeline, April 17, 2008 in his first timeline. He has changed the grass to represent green US currency in the economic crisis.)
2nd Trumpet, 1/3rd of the sea turned to blood Rev 8:8-9 (According to Weinland, will be “nukular” explosions in US port cities.)
3rd Trumpet, 1/3rd of the water turned bitter Rev 8:10-11
4th Trumpet, 1/3rd of the sun, moon, and stars turned dark Rev 8:12-13
5th Trumpet (1st Woe) Locusts with stings like scorpions torment for 5 months Rev 9:1-12 (According to Weinland, will be the conquering of the US. But as the end date approaches, Weinland has changed the 5 months of torment to be 5 months during which any brief amount of torment can occur. Also that the 5 months of torment precede the blowing of the 5th trumpet.)
6th Trumpet (2nd Woe) Rev 9:14
4 Angels prepare a 200-million-man army over a year, a month, and a day Rev 9:15-17
4 Angels kill 1/3rd of mankind Rev 9:18-21
7 Unwritten Thunders (until Weinland) Rev 10
2 Witnesses prophesy for 1260 days Rev 11:1-6
2 Witnesses lie dead for 3 ½ days Rev 11:7-10 (according to Weinland this is part of the 1260 days)
2 Witnesses resurrected, severe earthquake Rev 11:11-14 (per Weinland May 26, 2012 at 7:36 PM in Jerusalem right at sunset, which starts the Day of Pentecost )
7th Trumpet (3rd Woe) Rev 11:16-19 (according to Weinland all 7th Trumpet events happen on one day, Pentecost of 2012)
Pregnant woman gives birth, hides for 1260 days Rev 12
Beast with 7 heads & 10 horns rules for 42 months (could be included within the 1260 days that the woman hides) Rev 13:1-6
Seven Final Plagues Rev 15
1st angel with 1st plague in 1st vial, painful sores Rev 16:2
2nd angel with 2nd plague in 2nd vial, all sea life dies Rev 16:3
3rd angel with 3rd plague in 3rd vial, water turned to blood Rev 16:4
4th angel with 4th plague in 4th vial, sun intensifies Rev 16:8-9
5th angel with 5th plague in 5th vial, sun darkens Rev 16:10-11
6th angel with 6th plague in 6th vial, drought Rev 16:12-16
7th angel with 7th plague in 7th vial Rev 16:17-21
Satan Bound for 1000 years, Millennium, etc, etc. Rev 17-20
This was presented for reference. I’m not interested in a discussion which attempts to tie the symbols of Revelation to other books of the Bible such as Daniel. Nor one which attempts to resequence the events.
not necessarily on the “sevens”, but on your delightful and insightful sense of humor in reporting on Weinland and others who are in it for the “good life” and personal aplomb. surely you know it’s appreciated by some saints who remain apart from the antics. though it’s a marvel that you can bear to stayl up with it. best regards, jim mortensen
Shame on you. You should be both embarassed and ashamed of this Satan inspired dialog. As the Bible says, God considers the intellect of man foolishness. Who speaks foolishness? Fools of course. By speaking to what you don’t really know or yet understand you have proven beyond any doubt whatsoever that you are someone who relies on his own thinking.
Honestly, from what I have read you obviously know very little about either God’s Church, inspired Scripture, or the Revelations currently being revealed through Jesus to the Church. You speak foul mouthed failing to adequately acquaint yourself with the Church of God PKG doctrine. You resort to cheap name calling while misleading others with misinformation. Dialog intending to mislead just like your father Satan and his flock of demons
This I do know, and believe you probably do to, until you repent you will never receive God’s Spirit again. In absence of His Spirit the mysteries Yahweh reveals to His Church will never be given to you. I got to ask out of curiousity, just how is it that you feel qualified to judge Ronald Weinland? Has God Almighty commissioned you to act in His behalf? Maybe it is that you, a mere man filled with pride and arrogance think you have the authority to convey God’s message? Is it that God is working with you and not through Jesus, the Weinlands or the COG PKG?
Not to be confrontational but what I see here from what you have authored is an angry and confused man with a childish grudge. You appear to be a hater of God’s Witness Ronald because he was given God inspired understanding which you were Spiritually incapable of understanding?
The Scriptures warn us of antichrists. By doing what you are, you have postured yourself against God. I will pray for you but ultimately friend it is up to you to repent and accept God’s Word. If you decide to deny God’s two witnesses just where will you get the revelations Christ is revealing? If the Weinlands are who we know they are and you stand in opposition of them and God’s plan how do you think you will fair when you eventually stand before Him? I’d be cautious about bashing those whom God has appointed.
Mike
Allow me to clarify something you have misstated. Christ’s return will be on May 27, 2012 not the 23rd as you posted. Perhaps you should spend more than a brief moment reading the Church doctrine before you post inaccuracies which further confirm your Spiritual ignorance before all men
I’ve reposted “God’s Diplomat Mike’s” comment on it’s own thread. Please respond over there.