False Prophet Ronald Weinland

Before getting to the subject of this post, False Prophet Ronald Weinland has updated his trip itinerary as posted on his blog.  Covers every weekend for the rest of the Great Tribulation:

Mar 10 Spokane, WA
Mar 17 Cincinnati, OH
Mar 24 Windsor, CT
Mar 31 Los Angeles, CA
April 5 & 7  NEW ZEALAND
April 13 & 14 Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
April 21 Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA
April 28 Detroit, MI
May 5 Cincinnati, OH
May 12 London, UNITED KINGDOM
May 19  the NETHERLANDS

Also scheduled but not published on his blog:
May 21 Covington, KY for federal court appearance (pre-trial conference in criminal tax matter)
(On April 21, Weinland announced that he and his wife would not actually be killed in Jerusalem.  Guess he wasn’t so sure about the resurrection thing) May 23 through May 26 Jerusalem (to lie dead on the streets before being resurrected)

Isn’t it wonderful that God is showing us so much mercy by delaying the Great Tribulation for so long?  Now back to today’s posting:

In a previous post, Fleeing to Javan, I published a slightly edited (to remove identities) email from the wife of an ex-PKG-member.  This fellow decided that he is one of the two witnesses and to split off from Ron.  Or maybe Ron just disfellowshipped him.  I believe that the picture to the right is the guy.

This is another nut with a website and also has a YouTube channel filled with uploaded screeds.  According to him, we won’t be able to relax when May 28th rolls around and Christ hasn’t returned.  Satan has perverted the Jewish calendar, and while Ron is correct about Jesus’ return on Pentecost, he is using the wrong calendar and has the wrong date.  July 19th is when the world as we know it ends.

A few selected writings:

The last enemy camp that I slumbered through was certainly by design as this was the camp of the false prophet.

I have spoken on this subject in the past and will be speaking against him in the future.

There are many false prophets, even if they do not call themselves prophets that many will turn to as the destruction intensifies.

But this man is particularly dangerous because he has prophesied the coming destruction and he claims that he and his wife are the two witnesses and people will listen to him and follow him as we go forward.

This man also speaks of living by every word of Elohiym. He speaks that you cannot pick and choose. He is right, but he is a liar and a hypocrite because he does not practice, nor teach what he preaches.

Actually, this guy claims that he is the only witness, since the other was Zerubbabel which is one of the titles that Ron claims.

The sad thing is that he has a teen daughter, and has taken his family to Greece to await the return of Christ in July.  I hope his family isn’t suffering too much from his delusion.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Georgia this weekend.  He gave Johnny Harrell a break and allowed the father and son duo of Paul and Alan Giles to give the prayers.  One thing that helps keep Ron’s house of cards from collapsing is the family groups that are in PKG.  Just before calling Paul up to give the opening, Ron commented on the crowd and said it felt like 3000 in attendance.  But he went on to say it would be a few weeks before that number showed up.  Ron has long prophesied that a “tithe of a third” of those who were WCG members at the moment of Joe Tkach’s apostasy will join his church before Christ returns.  I agree that they will not show up in the next few weeks.  They will not show up in the 12 weeks remaining until Pentecost.  Nor will they show up in Ron’s small rented conference rooms after that.

Ron announced a number of upcoming trips.  He plans to be in New Zealand for Passover, Melbourne for the last of the Days of Unleavened Bread.  Then for the following sabbath (April 28) will be in Australia’s Gold Coast but I doubt that he and the Mrs. will swing by to see Corey.  But wait.  There’s more.  On May 12, he will be in the UK and on May 19th in the Netherlands.  The week before Pentecost will be busy for Ron.  On Sunday, May 20, he has to fly back from Europe to attend his pre-trial conference in federal court on the 21st.  Then the following day, the Beast Power will whisk him and the Mrs. off to Jerusalem where they will be whacked and their bodies will lie on the streets for 3 1/2 days with live television coverage.  Then Ron and the Mrs. will be resurrected to become members of Elohim after which they will probably return to the US to wreak vengeance on the prosecutors from the US Attorney’s office and the IRS special agent who developed over 5000 pages of discovery during a 3 1/2 year investigation.  Amazing!!!! Awesome to understand!!!!

The sermon was mostly his usual blather.  He criticized the Protestants for their interpretation of “John 14:2  In my Father’s house are many mansions” and their lust for heavenly mansions.  One should look for mansions here on earth, such as the one on a golf course that Ron and Laura live in.

The “louder, honey” moment came as Ron was having a senior moment forgetting the name of a sea that he and Laura had visited on one of their several trips to Israel.  Despite that, we didn’t hear from her.  Perhaps she is sensitive to my comments about past participation in services.

In the millennium, Satan and the demons won’t be around to break up family relationships.  If Ron goes to jail.  Ron talked about the sealing of the 144,000 that had taken place.  God knew what was in their hearts and minds and how they would react in any situation.  I believe that ChaCha was a member of the 144,000 at one time — did God know how she was going to react to the continued abject failure of Ron’s prophecies?

Ron hinted at carrots in future sermons.  Ron also mentioned a fast for the weekend of March 31st, to give thanks to God for holding off the Great Tribulation for so long.  I wonder if it will be a 3-day fast this time.  Ron, since you compare yourself to Jesus so much, why not emulate him and do a 40-day fast?

David Pack has an article up on his website about False Prophet Ronald Weinland.  So, who is Dave Pack?  Well, as he mentions in his own article:

 As we continue his “prophecies,” I can add that the next one elicited a very personal almost chatty letter from Weinland to me in late 2006 telling me that I—and certain other men who lead various splinters—would soon die.

That’s in reference to this statement in “2008 — God’s Final Witness”:

The sound of this thunder will be intensified by the early deaths of the leaders of the Philadelphia Church of God, the Restored Church of God and the Church of the Great God.

David Pack is the Herblet ayatollah of his own competing CoGlet, the Restored Church of God.  I call him “Clarion Call Dave”, in reference to a sermon he gave in 2007 demanding that his followers send in their money to support his own prophetic visions.  “Get those assets and get them here.”

In return, Dave shows Ron some left-handed mercy in this statement:

Some hope Ron Weinland goes to prison over alleged tax evasion. I don’t. If he does (informed lawyers suggest high probability), maybe it will save his and his wife’s eternal life.

Dave has something I agree with:

Recognize that once Ron Weinland’s prophecies fail, he has only one of four options: (1) Repent, acknowledging that he has been wrong. But, and here is the point, because they are false, such imposters NEVER do this. (2) Recalculate, claiming a prophecy was off by one year (or something similar), like William Miller of the Adventists did. (3) Spin his prophecies by claiming they were fulfilled in some mysterious or spiritual way. (4) Proclaim something akin to Christ is “in the desert” or “in the secret chambers.”

And continues on to prophesy that option #1 is not on Ron’s table.  I agree with that.

Dave does not have being one of the Two Witnesses in his future.  But as God’s One and Only True Apostle in The End Time, he will supervise the Two Witnesses who will arise from his own organization. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Dave has his eyes on PKG members, hoping to inherit them after Ron clearly fails (to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, anyway). To any PKG members who might contemplate that, let me give you three words:  Frying pan.  Fire.

No, this isn’t False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s third prophetic timeline, we have yet to see what that will be.  Rotten Ronnie is still firmly entrenched in his second prophetic timeline for Christ returning on Pentecost, although he has tweaked the middle and is delaying the trumpets and compressing the great tribulation.  At least that’s his public stance.  Since his LGD sermon he refuses to entertain any notion that he can be wrong on the Pentecost date.

Rather, this is the third criminal trial timeline.  As previously mentioned, the outcome of the hearing in federal court last Friday is that the trial first set for January  31 and then delayed to March 20, is now set for June 4 by which time loyal PKG members expect him to have been converted to spirit being and a member of Elohim and out of the jurisdiction of the United States, which will have been destroyed by that time.  But Ron’s attorneys paid for by the church likely have enough on retainer to cover their fees.

Further details from the hearing.  There has been a change in the lineup of counsel.  Weinland is still represented by Jon Christopher Coffman and Robert C. Webb from the law firm of Frost Brown Todd.  However, on the government’s side, the lead attorney is now Laura Klein Voorhees  and Robert McBride remains assigned to the case as her assistant.  The pretrial conference has been rescheduled from March 12 to May 21 at 11 AM Eastern time.  If Ron decides to make a plea for a reduced sentence, the court will need to be notified no later than May 16.  The pretrial conference is approximately 36 hours before Ron and Laura’s scheduled death at the hands of the Beast Power in the streets of Jerusalem.  (Ron, is half a day exactly 12 hours?  Or will your death be an sun-up in Jerusalem on May 23rd?) It will be a bit tight, but Ron can probably catch a flight there after the hearing, if the court allows that.

Ron will shut down his legal defense now if he believes his statement in his sermon of Feb 11:

Let me ask another question – How long does it take for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Trumpets to do and cause what they’re going to cause? Do we not understand it’s because of those things that Europe does what it does? Do you not understand that it’s the very reason why Europe responds and makes a decision and a choice that it does, is because of what happens at that time? That someone has to step in and fill the gap – for whatever it is that’s behind all the thinking and those beings that move and motivate and distort the thoughts of leaders to make the choice they do. I’m telling you, that up to a week in advance these things could happen, of the end, of Jesus Christ returning – 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th Trumpets. Don’t think they can’t.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in warm Los Angeles yesterday before a crowd from states as far away as Maine.  They were scheduled to break the sabbath (according to some zealots) by going out to a restaurant to eat together.  Ron and Laura arrived at their Los Angeles hotel late the evening before, since he had to catch a late flight at 5:30 PM due to the 2 PM Friday afternoon appearance in federal court for the hearing to consider his motion to continue the trial for a second time.  There were smug chuckles in the audience as he announced that the new date for the trial is June 4, which is the Monday of the second week following his scheduled conversion to spirit being and escape from the jurisdiction of the United States.  I wonder if he’ll put his attorneys on a short leash and tell them they needn’t bother preparing for trial. Ron mentioned that his church was aware of the hearing, I wonder if he put the news out internally or if enough of them read of it in news sources such as the Cincinnati Enquirer and this blog to become aware of it.

Ron has updated his timeline charts and added a new one.  Unlike the past, he did not post these charts on his website.  Perhaps he remembers the debacle in 2010 when I criticized the inconsistencies within his own whacky theories and he revised them multiple times.  During his sermon, Ron mentioned Power, Signs, and Lying Wonders (2 Thes 2:9) as originating from Joe Tkach (the Man of Sin and the Son of Perdition).  The Signs and Lying Wonders are the Power of Ron’s charts to further entrap his deluded members.  It will be wonderful during the millennium when each of the 144000 will deliver sermons to multiple feast sites, because they will be spirit beings with spiritual powers.

Ron’s blood sugar must have fallen toward the end of the sermon, or maybe he was still suffering jet lag.  He had a number of senior moments, making a number of misstatements.  Luckily his son Jeremy has the skillz to edit MP3 files.  But maybe it wasn’t something like that, but rather a Freudian slip when Ron confused as to whether it was God or Satan making life miserable for PKG members.  I say it’s both, two-two-two-in-one with Ron’s god equaling Satan.

This post is being published 3 months (both prophetic 30-day months and Roman calendar months) to the very minute from the moment that Ron will be disappointed that he doesn’t escape federal jurisdiction.  (Thielogical Bob, your math is off, it’s still more than 65 days).  And the moment the sealed members of COG-PKG are disappointed that they don’t don white “remaint” (that’s Ron-speak for “rainment”) as they are converted to spirit beings, and the family members of those in “the sealing” are also disappointed that they won’t be seeing their loved ones.

As reported last Friday, False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s talented legal defense team filed a motion in US Federal Court to continue his criminal trial currently scheduled to start on March 20 for 75 days.  Judge Reeves has scheduled a hearing on the motion for this Friday at 2 PM.  He may issue his ruling that same day, so I’ll be looking for an order from him on the matter to report on this weekend.  I have other plans for Friday evening, heeding Ronnie’s admonishment to “get a life” so I may not report on it immediately.

Feb 24 update:  The court has not published an order or opinion after today’s hearing.  Perhaps on Monday.  Or maybe Ron will discuss it in the sermon tomorrow, and pigs may fly.

Feb 25 update:  Pigs on the wing.  Ron did mention the court appearance at the beginning of the sermon, says the case is moved to June 4th.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland managed to get around the confiscation of his passport to perform his weekly blather in Toronto.  People traveled from afar to overflow the hotel conference room including Terry Wrozek from Michigan and Mitch Williams from Massachusetts to give the prayers.

God has revealed that the last 140-day half-a-time is the 5 months of torment mentioned in Revelation.  And that 5 months of torment can be as few as just a few minutes anytime during this 5-month period.  How do we know this?  Because Ron told us and he is obviously God’s prophet.  How do we know that Ron is God’s prophet?  Because of all the detailed prophecies which have come to pass exactly when and how he prophesied they would.  And let’s not forget of all the dead CoG ministers including the 5 he said would die early on.  And then we have the hordes of people banging down the doors of PKG associate elders to become baptised.  And the other hordes, the Asiatics currently rampaging and destroying the Earth.

And we should not try to put our own definitions on Ron’s prophecies.  To take them at face value is against God’s purpose in revealing what Ron truly prophesied as God is revealing the true definition of Ron’s writings to him.  Awesome what God progressively reveals.

Ron repeated his “to the very hour” claims relative to Joe Tkach’s moment of becoming the man of sin, taking time to mock my posting of January 14th in which I pointed out that sundown in Jerusalem on December 17, 1994 was on 9:38 AM Atlanta time.   According to him, it was totally backward, ignorant, foolish of me to think that sundown on a particular day has any relevance.  Seems that God run things according to man’s 24-hour clock an as I’ve pointed out long ago, sundown on the eve of May 27th is 7:36 PM Jerusalem time which is 12:36PM Eastern Time when you adjust for the timezone different.  I wonder if God also adjusts things for man’s daylight savings time when making things happen “to the very hour”.   Just wondering, since May will be daylight savings time and December is standard time, so was the very hour at 12:36 PM on Dec 17, 1994 or at 11:36 AM (don’t forget that we set the clock forward one hour in the spring when going to daylight savings time).

At least we’ve established from this weekend’s sermon that “to the very hour” is determined by man’s clock, not the sun, and that we have to adjust for differences in time zones. Ron, thanks for making that clear. So let’s see if Ron will respond to my post of January 15th in which I pointed out — oh, let’s just point it out again.  Ron himself said in this weekend’s sermon that that they had to clear the hall on Dec 17, 1994 by 1:30 PM.  This statement was right after he repeated his claim that Joe Tkach died 40 weeks later to the very hour.  And I provided documentation (PDF download from Servants New website) of the hour and timezone that Joe Tkach died:

For those time-zone challenged people, Pacific time is 3 hours behind Eastern time.  So Joe Tkach died at 5:20 PM Eastern time, long after and certainly more than an hour after Joe Tkach was kicked out of the meeting hall.  And much more than two hours after the time that Ron has instructed Jesus Christ to return on the Saturday of this coming Memorial Day weekend.  This still holds no matter how daylight savings time is regarded by God.

Let’s get out the hot dogs and marshmellows.  Documented evidence: Ron’s pants are on fire.

A personal to PKG members.  In his sermon, Ron described evil spirits that mock and scorn God’s people.  The evil spirits are the ones who will try to suppress your thinking, responding to any questions about Ron’s silliness with instructions to pray and fast.  If you have any thoughts of that sort, feel free to express them in the comments area on this blog.  If you still have lingering fears about what your elder will do if he finds out you’ve posted here, then just be careful what personal details you give.  As far as your questions, they probably are shared by others you know who are reluctant to give them voice.

The Cincinnati Enquirer has broken a story updating the continuing saga of the criminal case against False Prophet Ronald Weinland.  In motions filed this week by Ronnie’s talented legal team, Weinland asks for 75 more days to prepare.  If counted from the date of the trial currently scheduled for March 20, 75 days would put the trial after Christ doesn’t return on Memorial Day weekend.  If counted from the February 16 filing date, the trial would start on May 1, a Tuesday.

From the motion, it appears that a plea agreement may be a possibility.  The tone of the motion is that the point of issue may be the amount of tax loss, which would follow from whether all the transactions in the government’s case would be classified as personal income or not.  A reduction in the amount of tax loss would result in less taxes due and possibly a reduced sentence.

The discovery provided to the defense is around 5200 pages of transactions involving a total of 24 bank accounts and 10500 transactions within 11 credit card accounts held by either Ronnie or the Church of God – PKG.  The motion includes this little gem: “For example, in 2008, the government characterized over $1.8 million of credit card transactions as legitimate church expenses.”  Most of that was probably Weinland spending his member’s life savings on Google advertising and printing up copies of his books.

Since the motion indicates that the government’s attorney does not object to an extension, I expect Judge Reeves will allocate more time when he gets around to considering the motion.