Christ’s Coming (But Not This Year)

Ron’s “inset” post is up on his blog, and now reposted here:
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Pentecost of 2014 is not the day that Christ will return to begin his role as King of kings, yet that day will prove to be one of immense importance and timing in his coming. God is now revealing some understanding about this pivotal moment in time.

Since Pentecost of 2013, the Church has not been experiencing the manifestation of the “physical fulfillment” of the Day of the Lord. God’s Church was given to know that from Pentecost of 2012 to Pentecost of 2013 the manifestation of the “spiritual fulfillment” of the Day of the Lord did occur.

As we have continued to move forward from Pentecost to Pentecost, God has continued to lead us more fully into truth and understanding concerning the time in which we are living and what we are presently experiencing.

From its 2,000 years of history, God’s Church has experienced one of its most unique periods of trying with testing, refining with cleansing, and revelation of truth with spiritual growth, during these past 5 ½ years. Some of this was addressed in the series, An Extraordinary 4 ½ Years, and now, more understanding is being given concerning another year that has now passed and of what is yet ahead.

As the Church has been rapidly approaching the Millennial period, God has poured out an ever vastly increasing amount of truth and understanding, especially since the manifestation of the Apostasy that occurred on December 17, 1994. Much of that truth had been given after actual specific events had occurred. After those events took place, God revealed their connection, fulfillment, and meaning.

For example, it was after the Apostasy, and because of it, that God began revealing much to the Church that it had not previously known. It was revealed that the “Apostasy” spoken of in 2 Thessalonians had occurred and this was the “primary sign” that a countdown to Christ’s coming had begun. Additionally, God revealed that this is when the First Seal of Revelation was opened. Yet, how many actually accepted that this prophesied Apostasy had occurred and that God was plainly revealing this to His Church? What other remote possibility was there for how this kind of devastation and mass scattering could occur, AND did take place, in God’s very own Church?

Yet there are some scattered organizations that believe the Apostasy has not yet happened. Instead, they believe that “their” church must become much larger than Worldwide was (with about 96,000 baptized members) before an apostasy can even take place. This is based on the belief that there must be 144,000 faithful baptized members who are living that will be resurrected into God’s government at Christ’s return. This would mean that the Church would have to be much larger than that, by many tens of thousands, so that after an apostasy there would still be 144,000 faithful remaining. These scattered groups do not understand that this number is a total of all with whom God has been working to prepare for that government over the past 6,000 years.

So who has accepted that there was an Apostasy and that it was headed by the man who did “sit” (Gk. – to “sit” in authority in government) in the temple of God (as though he was God) and who became this prophesied “man of sin” and “son of perdition”? This man did make himself “as God,” who alone establishes law, but this man changed the laws of God to those of his own liking. Who has plainly believed, understood, and acknowledged that it was the man Joseph W. Tkach, Sr. who perpetrated and fulfilled these things against God and Christ – who became the “principal antichrist” of all antichrists?

As God began to reveal what happened to His Church, He also began to reveal how and why it had happened. God revealed that the entire Church was fully Laodicean and had become so lukewarm that it had fallen asleep, so it was spewed out entirely from Himself, just as He said it would be. However, who among the scattered have acknowledged they were among those Laodiceans? The answer to all these questions is: only God’s true Church! Only those who are spiritually awake and alert, and remain that way, can hear Christ’s voice, acknowledge truth, and follow him.

We Want To Know
We are living what all others who have faithfully gone before us have lived. We too want to know when the Messiah will establish the Kingdom of God. The more we grow spiritually, with a world that is rapidly becoming more corrupt and evil, we are becoming ever more eager to see this age come to a close and for Christ to begin his reign. This is intensified mightily by the fact that we know we are now living in a period where the final seal of Revelation has already been opened and we are only waiting upon the physical manifestation of the Second Trumpet.

All this reminds me of a card that was sent to me by a senior elder as she expressed some of this anticipation and sentiment in a comical manner by making a statement that is something that most parents have experienced when traveling with young children. They often ask, as she stated in her card to me, “Are we there yet?” We too, as God’s children can be very much like that as we want to complete this journey as soon as possible, and we really don’t want to have to go much farther to get there, because the ride isn’t all that comfortable. We are not there and we do have farther to go.

Everyone knows the example of Daniel and how he asked God about the end (fulfillment) of what he had written concerning the coming of the Messiah and the establishment of His Kingdom on earth. Daniel was simply told to seal the book (that he was not to know the meaning, nor the timing) because it was to remain closed (sealed, unrevealed) “until the time of the end” (Dan. 12:9).

Over the past few years, God has been opening (unsealing, revealing) the meaning of those very things – not all at once, but progressively so. To better understand what we have lived (experienced) over the period of the 1335 days from Trumpets of 2008 (Sept. 30) to Pentecost of 2012, the year that followed, then the present year that is now coming to a close, and finally the time which is now before us, there is a need to address the varying manner and means through which God has revealed much truth to His Church. There are numerous “variables” in which God’s word is written in order to reveal truth, meaning, and purpose concerning how His plan is becoming fulfilled in the creation of Elohim – the Kingdom of God. Examples of these “variables” are replete throughout scripture, which include such things as the use of duality, types, physical/spiritual parallels and duality, repetitious fulfillment, progressive fulfillment, present truth, and more.

Examples include the comparison of such things like the church in the wilderness (physical Israel in the wilderness) with God’s Church in this world, in a spiritual wilderness: Egypt that is likened to spiritual slavery (bondage), sin, and pride; Pharaoh is a type for Satan; leaven is a type for sin; sackcloth is a type for humility; physical circumcision is a type for spiritual circumcision of the heart, etc.

There is duality in the desolation of the physical temple by Antiochus Epiphanes (an abomination of desolation) with the desolation of the temple, the Church, by the man of sin, the son of perdition. There is a type of the spiritual Eden of God (in the spirit realm) with the physical Garden of Eden of Adam and Eve.

Then there are matters of repetitive fulfillment as with the many generations (and eras) of the Church experiencing the fulfillment of the parable of the seed that is sown and that of the tares. Many scriptures refer to the repeated treatment and fulfillment of cruelty and injustice (imprisonments, beatings, and executions) exercised by governments upon God’s prophets, apostles, and people through time – repeated generation after generation.

There is a great deal of progressive fulfillment of prophecy that is especially directed toward things to be fulfilled during this end-time. The prophecy of Joel that is quoted by Peter on the first Pentecost experienced by the Church is an excellent example of such a process. Because of their inability to grasp the miracle of speaking (and hearing) in different languages, there were those who had concluded that the disciples were drunk, so Peter quoted what the prophet Joel had written concerning this event.

“For these (the disciples) are not drunk as you suppose (have concluded), seeing it is but the third hour of the day (9 am in the morning). But this is that which was spoken of by the prophet Joel, that it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh (this was the beginning of that fulfillment). Your sons and your daughters shall prophecy (experience the ability through inspired speech to converse about God’s prophetic plan), and your young men shall see visions (able to see and experience what God has prophesied through visions to others), and your old men shall dream dreams (those who were old and died, resurrected to life again and able to live their original hearts’ dreams for life that they could not attain in their first life). On my servants and handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my spirit (God giving of His spirit to all whom He calls), and they shall prophesy (speak God’s word with inspiration, truth, and understanding). I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath of blood, fire, vapor, and smoke (actual end-time events that will usher in the greater fulfillment of God pouring out His spirit on all flesh). The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and notable Day of the Lord comes” (Acts 2:15-20).

This is a “progressive fulfillment,” as not all of Joel’s prophecy was at that moment being fulfilled, but only a portion – a beginning portion. He referred to what would come to pass in the last days. Joel’s prophecy was not only referring to the very end-time in which we are now living, but also of what was just beginning at that specific time to be fulfilled, starting then in those “last days” that would continue for the next 2,000 years plus. This was indeed the beginning of the latter days of God’s 7,000-year plan (at that time, 4,000 years had now passed).

There is also abundant use of a combination of these variables that are used in God’s word, as in the example of the use of both progressive and repetitive fulfillment in prophecies concerning the “Elijah to come.” These variables are seemingly endless in scripture, as God has chosen many means through which He has revealed Himself and His plan, purpose, and truth to those whom He calls. It is through these same type of variables and combinations that God is now revealing more to His Church about where we have been, where we are now, and where we are going.

Change and Following God
There is so much that God has suddenly begun to reveal that it will be difficult to capture, summarize, and adequately explain much of it in a single post such as this. This could be written in a series with greater depth, but as Pentecost is rapidly approaching, it is best to get this written now.

God is not yet revealing specific timing of all that is now going to be covered, but He is giving us a clearer outline of events in what we have been living since Trumpets 2008 and of what is now before us. In all this, it is important to remember that there are great reasons why everything is not fully revealed to us all at one time. Some of that is for the purpose of trying and testing, some for creating stronger faith and character in those who yield to God, some for the development of truer and stronger humility, and some because of spiritual warfare and strategies. In all of this, it is good to remember that much of the warring that has occurred through time in the angelic realm is nearing it crescendo and completion, with Satan and the demons being fully restrained without power for the next 1,100 years.

To better understand where God is now leading us, we must first have a firm understanding of our recent history and of how He has been working with us. The decisions and choices we make in our life concerning how we follow God are always based on “present truth” (truth that God has revealed to us in that moment of time). Within this variable, we are generally confronted with change when God reveals more truth and gives more revelation in prophecy in the progressive manner that He does. Our decisions and choices must also change accordingly when that happens, as this is when we must determine to follow God in the direction He leads us. This is always because we are to live by the present truth (in response to it, according to it) and change our lives to be in unity with it.

Such decisions are easily understood by many recent examples. Many of these have been covered before, but one example of great importance that stands out needs to be repeated concerning events in 2008.

God had inspired the second book I was to write and directed me to give it a specific title: 2008 – God’s Final Witness. God had revealed that 2008 was the year for the two-witnesses to begin their witness, in which God would “establish” them as His two witnesses. A specific countdown was to begin from 2008, which would include the prophetic periods of 1335, 1290, and 1260 days. As God revealed that present truth, I made decisions and choices based on that revelation.

Looking back on all this, I can now understand that as an apostle, I first concluded from these things that had just been revealed, combined with the additional beliefs we held at that time, that these prophetic dates all ended at Christ’s literal return. God could have revealed otherwise, but it was within His purpose to establish His witnesses that this should be their focus and obedient belief. Therefore, it was concluded that Christ’s return would have to be on Trumpets of 2011. However, as already covered in the post of May 2013 (Extraordinary 4 ½ Years), this date of 2011 was changed in order to follow God in a new truth He revealed at that time. It would be good to quote some of that here.

“Starting on Pentecost in 2008, God began revealing more. The timing of everything was about to change as God began to reveal the importance of the timing of the wave loaves being of the same kind of importance as the timing of the Wave Sheaf that Jesus Christ fulfilled perfectly according to God’s time.”

“…So in that sermon, God revealed that Christ was not going to return on a Feast of Trumpets, but on a Pentecost. This timing was critical to God’s plan concerning the fulfillment of the wave loaves being offered up before God that pictured His acceptance of the 144,000. This was of the same importance as the acceptance of the wave sheaf during the Days of Unleavened Bread that Jesus Christ fulfilled. We then changed the dates of our previous understanding of timing as soon as God revealed the truth of this matter of Christ returning on a Pentecost. As a result of this understanding, the beginning of the 3 ½ years of witness was pushed back by nearly 8 months, to the end, rather than at the beginning, of 2008.”

After God revealed this truth to the Church, that Jesus Christ would return on a Pentecost, everything then tied together in a very inspiring manner as the 1335 days from Trumpets of 2008 (concerning the final sealing of the 144,000) came to Pentecost of 2012. This was our present truth and we acted (responded) and prepared accordingly – with great conviction. Since most of this has already been covered in that series, I won’t be repeating more of it here. Although Pentecost 2012 was not the date of Christ’s return, it was the date that fulfilled these prophecies that ultimately completed the sealing of those remaining to be added in order to finalize the full count of 144,000. That day also concluded a period to establish a prophesied “final judgment.”

In what we experienced at that time, God was leading us through a combination of “progressive revelation” and “new truth” that He added to His Church. Whenever such a thing happens, we adjust our course accordingly and change whatever we must in order to continue following God in the way He leads us.

Yet, not all changed “their” course in order to continue following God. During that 4 ½ year period following Trumpets of 2008, most in the Church yielded themselves to being refined and were made much stronger “in” God. However, there were those who chose to quit following God and the incredible 57 Truths He gave to His Church. The exact same thing will be repeated and continue to happen as we move further into the period now before us.

Before proceeding into the next section concerning what God is now revealing, certain facts need to be stated up front so that no one is confused by the reality and truth of these statements. We did experience 3 ½ years of a “final witness” that did fulfill the prophetic 1335, 1290, and 1260 days of Daniel. In addition, we also lived and experienced the year that followed, which was the spiritual manifestation of the “Day of the Lord,” which pertained to God’s Church. God is now blessing us to build upon that knowledge and experience.

Now, also, as a clarification (since there are a few who seem to misunderstand some of what has been taught), there is the period of a time, times, and half-a-time that consists of 1260 days – 3 ½ years – (where a “time” is 360 days). However, that period also had a “spiritual” intent concerning the “revelation of God’s judgment.” This was revealed through setting aside that first 280 days, which established a period of “judgment” in which a final counting of a time, times, and half-a-time followed, where a “time” was now established as 280 days. This count pertained to God’s “judgment,” with witness (testimony), during that full period.

That which God is now revealing is being done so, through the variables (and combinations of them) that were covered earlier.

Revelation 11
In this chapter of the bible, God reveals two end-time witnesses and a work He had predetermined that they were to fulfill. That work has only partially been fulfilled and a far greater work is yet to come. God Almighty is orderly, exacting, and precise in making sure those things He had before ordained throughout all the prophecy He has inspired to be written should come to pass. The calling, training, and preparing of the two witnesses includes such a process. It becomes awesomely exciting once we can “see” His work and what He is methodically bringing to pass in this matter.

Clarification
So as not to disrupt the focus of the subject matter that is about to be written, there is a need to first mention something about a statement that will be made in the second paragraph following this one. That statement is, “Toward the end of that 3 ½ year period following December 14 of 2008, which was the beginning work of the two witnesses and when the First Trumpet was blown, a final phase began in a countdown to the return of Christ…” It should be stated that at that time we believed that Christ’s return would be Pentecost of 2012. However, we learned that was clearly not the case, but it needs to be stated that December 14 of 2008 was a major marker in a precise final phase for a countdown to Christ’s coming. It was when the First Seal was opened on December 17, 1994, that the actual countdown to Christ’s return began. God is now beginning to reveal more about the final phase of that countdown to Christ’s coming.

Revelation 11 (continued)
As with the Apostasy, we did not grasp what was happening until well after it had occurred. Then God opened up (revealed) His word so that we could see how it applied to that time and what had happened to His Church. In a similar manner, God is revealing more in Revelation 10 and 11 that is about the work of the two witnesses.

We did not even grasp the deep significance of the title of the book, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, until well after it had been written. Toward the end of that 3 ½ year period following December 14 of 2008, which was the beginning work of the two witnesses and when the First Trumpet was blown, a final phase began in a countdown to the return of Christ, and especially in the year that followed, we came to “see” that a powerful “final witness” had been established against this world, as it would not listen to God now, just as it has not listened for the past 6,000 years. Such a “witness” had to be established within this “present generation” of mankind in order for God’s righteous judgment to be established for what He is now about to bring upon this earth.

God also established a “final witness” against Satan so that His righteous judgment could be firmly established in this generation for what must now be carried out against Satan and the demons.

We have also come to understand how God established a “final witness” within the environs of the Church. As a matter of fact, we came to “see” how the job (work) of the two witnesses during that 3 ½ years was on a spiritual plane, as a matter of a “witness” they established. That spiritual phase concerned the Church. It also concerned those who were largely once a part of God’s Church, including some in the world, who hate God’s final witness and who hate His two-witnesses. God revealed to us the spiritual interpretation of Revelation 11 as it applied to these matters.

However, God is now revealing that everything that has been written previously concerning the fulfillment of the work of these two witnesses is also going to be fulfilled on a “physical plane,” just as it was written of them in 2008 – God’s Final Witness. It is “dual fulfillment,” with the first phase being on a “spiritual plane” and the second and last phase to be fulfilled on a “physical plane.”

In all of this, there are timelines that God will precisely fulfill, but He is not yet “fully revealing” to the Church when this final period of a final work of these two witnesses is to be accomplished, which will be a work God does over a 1260-day period (3 ½ years). God is not yet fully revealing to the Church a specific timing as to when this physical phase of the work of his two witnesses begins.

There is important duality that needs to be noted in the following verse: “I will give unto my two witnesses that they may prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth” (Rev. 11:3). This will be addressed more fully later in this post; however, it is important to first know that this is dual. This period applied to the first spiritual phase where God established His “final witness” and also established His two witnesses. Establishing these witnesses was, and still is, a matter of establishing (creating) a level of humility (wearing of sackcloth) that is needed to carry out the kind of work that will be accomplished through them.

As all this is now being revealed, there may be feelings of disappointment that Christ isn’t returning as soon as we had hoped, for we do deeply long for His coming and a new world to be established. But we have been called to fulfill and spearhead some of the most dramatic and purpose-filled events in God’s plan through time. We still have a “great work” before us and God is revealing that vision to us.

This is a time to seek greater courage and of being stronger in spirit. God is calling upon us to do more, much more! All this will become too much for some, and as it has always been, they will not choose to continue following and living the truth God delivered to them. However, such a choice will not change the struggles and battles in life that are before us, nor of what is coming, as conditions in this world are going to become much worse!

Pentecost to Pentecost
Over the past year, God gave us a direction to follow that was from “Pentecost to Pentecost” so that we would keep moving forward in a unified, and more spiritually focused manner. That is now changing somewhat, as we have made it to the Pentecost God desired for us to attain (reach in a spiritually strong fashion). It is as we are approaching this Pentecost that God is clarifying what our vision needs to be concerning Christ’s coming. Yet in all of this, we will still anticipate the Pentecost of Christ’s coming.

That which is now before us concerns a “work” that must be accomplished by God’s two witnesses and the Church. This is not a witness (testimony) that is being established, as we have already lived that! So what is before us now is not a witness, but a “great work!” For the Church, it is a work of supporting and lifting up the arms of God’s two witnesses. For the two witnesses, it will be a work of declaring why end-time events have come upon this world and it will also be a work of directly participating in some to the execution of judgment from a final witness that has now been firmly established.

At this time, we are no longer simply going to be focused on moving ahead one year at a time. After what has now been stated about a “great work” before us and the duality in the 1,260 days of God’s witnesses, it should be obvious that God is revealing a minimum period of 3 ½ years that is before us in order to fulfill the duality of the “physical phase” of the work of His two witnesses.

In all this, it is wise to remember that we willingly gave our life to God at baptism to serve Him as He wills. Our life is not our own to live in selfishness – in selfish pursuits in this life. Such pursuits would be short-lived anyway since this world will be plunged into the worst times of its history. Only the flood in Noah’s day saw more death (percentage-wise) in mankind’s history, but it happened over a much shorter period than what is about to come. Prayerfully, we will enthusiastically embrace this great work God is showing that is yet before us. We have been preparing (PKG – Preparing for the Kingdom of God) for this time and what it will usher into this world.

In addition to this final phase of the two witnesses, God is also revealing that there is another period of time that is to be fulfilled. As we go through some of these verses in Revelation, we will cover that as well. The time that is yet before us, before the final phase of this great work begins, is a period where the Church will have the finishing touches of refinement and preparation given to it for what is ahead of us to complete. We are in this to the end – the very end of this age and the beginning of a new one. So let’s consider more of what God is giving us.

As I am writing this, I cannot help but be struck that even as John was imprisoned on the Isle of Patmos by the government in his time, it was at that time that God gave him the words of Revelation to be written. Now, myself being imprisoned by our own government, God is giving me some of the most revealing understanding of what was written about this great work that is yet before us (all of us in the Church) that is so timely, and that which is specifically about the two witnesses.

Revelation 10
There is an account written in the bible that leads up to God revealing two witnesses who will come on the scene in world events, which begins in Revelation 10. Only the Church has seen and received them (the witnesses), but their “primary work” has not yet been revealed in world events.

Men inserted chapters and verses into scripture. For what God is now showing us, we need to see Revelation 10 and 11 as a continual story flow that unfolds before us.

This all begins by John seeing an angel who held a little book in his hand. The two words, “little” and “book,” are from one Greek word that would be better translated as “booklet” (or as a small section of scroll). Yet even the word “booklet” does not fully capture the meaning, or intent, of what is being spoken.

Within the context of this occurrence, the angel with the “opened” booklet (or small section of scroll) began to cry aloud. What did he say? He cried out the Seven Thunders, and once these had been declared, John was going to write what was stated about those thunders. However, John was told not to write them, but to seal what was declared. It is similar to what Daniel experienced when he was told that what he had written was “closed up and sealed until the time of the end” (Dan. 12:9). In John’s case, he was not even to write what had been clearly “opened up” and declared to him.

Until now, God had not revealed the connection between the “opened booklet” and the Seven Thunders that were declared by the angel, although it was always right in front of us. The angel simply declared aloud what was “temporarily opened” about the Seven Thunders. John could only record that he “heard” what was said about these thunders, but he was to “seal” them (close what had been opened), and he was not to write what they were. They were to be opened (unsealed) and written about in another period of time – this end-time. “Seal up (close) those things which the Seven Thunders declared, and do not write them” (Rev. 10:4).

Then the voice he had heard from heaven spoke again to John and said, “Go take the booklet (small section of scroll) which is open in the hand of the angel which stands upon the sea and upon the earth” (Rev. 10:8). This is then followed by John doing as he was told and of what the angel then instructed him to do with that small section of scroll that was open.

“Then I went unto the angel and said to him, give me the booklet. He said unto me, Take it and eat it up, for it shall make your stomach bitter, but it shall be as sweet as honey in your mouth” (Rev. 10:9). John took the booklet and ate it. He then said, “It was sweet as honey in my mouth, but as soon as I had eaten it my stomach was bitter” (Rev. 10:10).

These Seven Thunders have once again been opened by God through Jesus Christ and recorded in 2008 – God’s Final Witness. This book is not what John ate, but the small section in the book that states (summarizes) what these thunders are is what he ate. It was not that large book, but only a specific little section of it.

Indeed, when God revealed those thunders and even granted certain latitude to add more specifics to them, it was an exciting experience to consume such a thing given from the hand of God. It was also exciting to know that these events are those that would have much to do with thrusting a final great work forward so that an end to a selfish and unruly age of man could be finally brought to a close. It was even far greater to grasp that this would be followed by a very great revelation of God to all mankind.

However, as the message of these thunders was tied directly into God’s “final witness” in this world, especially as 2012 drew to a close, then the experience became bitter to digest (to experience the result of directly partaking, eating of, the message). The “witness” of this world, the scattered Church, and even a few within the environs of the Church was that the message (along with the entire book) was rejected, ridiculed, and slandered. To most in the world and the scattered Church, this became their evidence, supposedly so, that we were not God’s two witnesses, and that most assuredly I was no prophet of God. Instead, I was mocked as a “profit” from God, even by our own government.

All of this was for a greater purpose that God has been working out and some of that had to do with our learning to wear sackcloth – of becoming stronger in humility. The more we become at-one with God, the more we will be clothed in humility. The greater a task – “work” – God gives to any person to fulfill in His service, the greater the need for closer unity and of being more at-one with God, and also for an ever deepening and growing spirit of humility. This is exactly the process God is using to prepare His two witnesses (and the Church) for what yet lies ahead. The things they have experienced and continue to experience are the very things that prepare them to carry out the kind of work (task) that those final 1,260 days must accomplish.

Prophesy Again
After the angel instructed John to eat the message of the Seven Thunders, the angel continued with more instruction. “You must prophesy again before many peoples, nations, languages, and kings (leaders, rulers)” (Rev. 10:11). This instruction followed directly after those things that concerned the Seven Thunders and John’s experience of the sweetness in his mouth and the bitterness in his stomach from eating the message. That message has now gone out into the world, as a witness. It is a declaration of prophesied events that will work “against” unrepentant people, nations, and leaders.

The message from this angel is about prophecy that will be given “again.” That Greek word, “again,” carries the idea of oscillatory repetition, and when used in the context of time it literally means “once more.” The entire prophetic message of 2008 – God’s Final Witness was written and sent out into the world in seven languages. It has gone out to many people, nations (into nearly all), languages, and leaders, but when it goes out “once more,” it will be in a far more massive manner.

The angel said this prophecy must once again go out “before” many people, nations, languages, and leaders. The Greek word translated as “before” is most often translated as “against,” but often carries the additional thought of being “before someone,” as “in their presence.” This part of the verse is simply stating what must be accomplished “once more” by what was written in the book of prophesied events that will come “against” people, nations, and leaders – just as it is recorded in the Seven Thunders and the rest of 2008 – God’s Final Witness.

The first time this message went out (in that published book), which was a message that was “against” this world, it was a matter of a “witness against the world” that had to first be established. The next time (“once more”), it will be a matter of the active fulfillment of those events, as the actual execution of judgment is carried out against this world. It will be the actual manifestation of all those physical events.

In addition, more events that are against some people, nations, and leaders will be pronounced and quickly manifested as these two witnesses so choose and determine they should happen. Those events will occur only within the final phase of the 1,260 days of the two witnesses. “These have power to shut the heavens so that it will not rain in the days of their prophecy, and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they will” (Rev. 11:6).

Another Period of Time
This interaction between the angel and John is then followed by one last instruction given to John. There have been repetitious types of this that have seen partial fulfillment of such an event many times throughout the history of the Church, but there is one literal, final, and complete fulfillment that God is revealing, which is occupying the “present time” we are now living.

“There was given to me a reed like unto a rod, and the angel stood up and said, Rise and measure the temple of God, the alter, and those who worship therein” (Rev. 11:1).

The temple of God is the Church and during this period of time it must go through a final phase of cleansing, purification, growth, and preparation for “participation” in the great work before it. This is about an execution of manifested judgment – by God and Christ – that results in the true measurement of those who are truly yielded to God. This is about those who practice going before the alter of God by utilizing the sacrifice of Christ as their Passover (actively and continually seeking forgiveness of sin). These are those who seek mercy and genuine change (transformation) in order to “remain in” (to continue in, abide in) the temple to “worship” God in spirit and in truth.

“But the court which is outside the temple, cast out, and do not measure it, for it is given to the gentiles, and they shall tread under foot the holy city for forty-two months” (Rev. 11:2).

This has already begun! Some have been in the environs of the Church and not really “in” (dwelling spiritually within) the Church (in the temple of God), but they are in the courtyard with an “appearance” of being among those who worship “in” the Church. Although it applies to his counterpart for the end-time, John was instructed to “cast out” (disfellowship) such individuals and count them (measure them) as gentiles – fully as non-believers.

This verse then concludes by saying, “they” shall tread under foot the holy city (spiritual Jerusalem – the Church) for forty-two months. The “they” who do this is largely made up of those who have been “cast out” of the presence of a pseudo-association with God’s people. They are clearly exposed for who they are – those who are against God, against Christ, and against His Church.

Most of these individuals who are “cast out” are those who choose to walk over (stamp under foot) everything that God has made holy – spiritually sanctified. This includes the practice of lying, slander, half-truth mixed with false stories, accusation, distortion of God’s truth, mockery, ridicule and much more that is exercised by these individuals upon God’s Church.

As it was just stated, “This has already begun.” God has not fully revealed when it began, as it may have begun on Pentecost of 2012 or 2013. I speak this as an apostle from interpretation of “present truth” God has now given. Therefore the exact year has not yet been fully revealed. In addition, God can alter His execution of timing, but He will not change the actual prophesied events that He has revealed to His prophets.

Three Clarifications
1. Seven Thunders: In all that has been covered to this point, the manifestation of the Seven Thunders needs to be understood. Once the Sixth Seal was opened, some of these thunders began to sound, and then in 2008, these began to increase. Throughout most of the time since then, that process has continued with an increase in repetition, intensity, and with some multiples of them sounding at the same time. Most of this has been for the purpose of God working to keep the Church focused and watchful during the difficult stage that was a more intense period of trying and testing.

As it has been stated many times in the past, the thunders will continue to increase in magnitude, closeness of repetition, and even with multiple thunders occurring simultaneously. This is a process that will actually become much stronger as we proceed forward from this Pentecost. The greatest power from these thunders will be poured out during the physical fulfillment of the 1,260 days of God’s witnesses.

2. First Trumpet Blown: God will not reveal the full scope of understanding in the blowing of each trumpet until after the major manifestation of each one occurs. On December 14, 2008, the First Trumpet was blown.

As it has been stated in the past, this was not the time for the physical manifestation of this trumpet blast. This trumpet sound carries a literal, physical manifestation that in itself is prophetic in nature, and it carries a “prophetically symbolic” manifestation. This is akin to the prophetic nature of the First Seal, in that once it was opened (concerning the Apostasy), its effect and continuing destruction has carried on and grown throughout the rest of the seals that have been opened.

With this First Trumpet, the result of its physical effect will build and continue to increase in its destructive power throughout the time for the manifestation of each of the following trumpets. This is a process that will continue to unfold until that which has been stated concerning this trumpet is completely fulfilled.

The “prophetic, symbolic” destruction from this trumpet was manifested beginning in 2008. It primarily concerns the destruction of the “green back” – the U.S. Dollar – and the complete economic collapse, along with the destruction of productivity of the United States. The reality is that it has already collapsed, but is presently being sustained (supported) by false (deceitful) economic policy, monetary creation, and willing complicity in the participation of these devious practices within large business (industry), banking, government, as well as by commodity and stock market participants.

This prophetic, symbolic destruction of the First Trumpet will not carry-on through all the remaining trumpets, but it will become an actual physically fulfilled reality before the manifestation of the Fifth Trumpet.

3. Fifth Trumpet: As it has been stated in the past, this is the only trumpet blast that carries a spiritual fulfillment and a physical one. This trumpet carries some duality on both a physical and spiritual plane. The spiritual fulfillment of some of the verses pertaining to this trumpet were about the Church, and these have already been fulfilled. The physical manifestation of this trumpet blast will occur in its natural order after the Fourth Trumpet blast has been fulfilled.

LGD – 2011
Lastly, in this final section of this post, I’m going to address part of what was covered in a sermon on the Last Great Day in 2011. It concerned thoughts conveyed to me deep into the night of Atonement (2011) that I shared with the Church in that LGD sermon.

Although this account could be covered a little more fully, I am simply going to quote some of what was stated in that sermon and give some basic clarification on what was involved. Looking back at what was stated throughout that sermon and the incredible timing in which God inspired it to be given, it is even far more deeply inspiring now!

That sermon was entitled, “A Time to be Sobered.” It primarily addressed the commitment of God’s people to live His way of life – His truth – with deep and genuine conviction, regardless of what happens in life.

God was both preparing us for what was to come that would bring us all the way to this Pentecost and inspiring us to complete the “witness” that was to be established by May 27, 2012.

Now I’ll give some quotes from that sermon:

“Now! Now is a time to look at yourself, to be sobered, to take a deep look at yourself and what you believe. On Atonement we were fasting in Melbourne and deep into the night of fasting, I was awakened with different thoughts. I received different thoughts that I am now going to share with you. (These) thoughts were somewhat unsettling but thoughts concerning matters that have led me to understanding what God wanted me to address here today so that I could speak to you about them. Remember, going back in history I’ve mentioned at different times, it’s been at times like that, deep into the night – that I’ve awakened and God has given me a lot of things (that have) to do with the Church, and where the Church is going, and where He is leading it. Incredible! Probably that’s when I have my clearest thoughts and calm environment and no stress and can listen a little more carefully in mind.”

“First, the though that I received: ‘May 27, 2012, is not the day of Jesus Christ’s return.’”

A couple of paragraphs later, the second part was stated:

“Second, the thought that I received after awakening that night of Atonement: ‘You have not yet started your job as a witness as you have supposed, but you will begin to do so once fully clothed in sackcloth. And Christ not returning on May 27th will be used to facilitate that reality, and people are going to hate you far more than they do at this time, in the world.’”

A thought conveyed to me in the midst of this was that there is another 3 ½ years that must be fulfilled. As many of the major things that have been conveyed to me have been given deep into the night, this occasion was different in that it “didn’t seem” the same as other occasions. Instead, in my thinking, it carried a sense of uneasiness because it didn’t seem to be conveyed in the same spirit as before, but was as if it seemed to be (by my feeling) conveyed in somewhat of a “pleased spirit,” as though the delivery of the message was being done in a self-satisfying manner. God does not convey in that manner, but in one of patience, love, clarity, and inspiration.

It was my perception that this was not communicated directly from God, but from Satan. However, I have carried some confusion over all this because I had not understood why it was allowed. One day I will learn even more fully the truth in all this, as my perception may have been my own personal response to the possibility of Christ not coming in 2012, but I don’t think that is the case.

Indeed, perhaps Satan was allowed to convey this message, as it was not a complete message. It was only partially true concerning the additional 3 ½ years to be fulfilled, as we now know the period following 2012 should be close to double that (or even somewhat more). There are more quotes concerning this coverage in the sermon:

“When Jesus was fasting, God allowed Satan to come to Him with an attempt to dissuade him from the task before him, to lead Christ away from the job he was to fulfill. Yet Christ answered Satan with God’s own words, with the answers that were the matter of truth that God gives to us to live by. That’s what he did, powerfully so. Sometimes we’re attacked and God allows some broadcasting, as we heard even in the earlier sermon.”

“Yes, I deeply believe that this was a matter of Satan’s attempt to stir up doubt, turmoil, uncertainty, weakness and anything else he could do to distract, to discourage, to torment, and so forth.”

A couple of paragraphs later it was stated: “And so Jesus Christ is far, far greater than Satan. There is no comparison in there whatsoever! …He easily outwits and uses Satan’s own devices against him to strengthen His own Body. It’s a powerful thing. Satan thinks he gets at God; he causes a disruption, a bump in the road. Never!”

Then there is this final quote to be given from that sermon:

“And so that thought that came in – what a bunch of bull! That’s what I call it, a bunch of bull! 3 ½ more years? …That leads up to November of 2015? Well, that doesn’t take much brilliance to figure out a great truth that I am so deeply convicted of in the 50th Truth; Jesus Christ returns on a Pentecost.”

So that paragraph just quoted was my answer that was based on the 50th Truth as a response to those thoughts at that time, which was a “correct response” (based on truth) to any thought concerning the possibility that Christ would return in November of 2015. This then helped us to focus more zealously on fulfilling a “great witness” that had to be established by what we were to “live,” up until May 27th, 2012.

However, God was indeed beginning to give to us and to prepare us for more truth that was to be revealed in His time, which is what this very post has covered. We will now move forward with our greatest focus (vision) yet.

In concluding, there is one more thing to tell you. A couple of weeks ago, late into the night once more, I was awakened with clear thoughts concerning much of the content of this post. In addition, it was conveyed to me that a third book is to be written, and even a title was given to me. This was just as clear and in the same manner as other names and titles that have been given to me over the years. These include: “News Watch” (for the scattered Church of God), “Time Is Running Out,” “Time Has Run Out,” Church of God – PKG, The Prophesied End-Time, and 2008 – God’s Final Witness.

[Pt. 14 on the series of "True Fellowship" will resume in a couple of weeks.]

Inset: Not This Pentecost

The following appeared on False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s blog today:

The next post will be delayed by at least two to three weeks, as it will be an “inset post,” inserted in place of the current series on True Fellowship. After this inset post, the series on fellowship will resume.

This inset post is entitled, “Christ’s Coming.” There is much God is now revealing and giving in this post that shows far more clearly where we have been, where we are now, and where we are going. The first sentence of that post will be given now so that plans concerning this Pentecost can be somewhat laid to rest:

“Pentecost of 2014 is not the day that Christ will return to begin his role of King of kings, yet that day will prove to be one of immense pivotal importance and timing in his coming.”

So.  I wonder what Apostle Ronnie’s new Sign and Lying Wonder will be.

Falsely Accused of Godly Courage

While False Prophet Ronald Weinland continues to serve his 42-month prison sentence (reduced for good conduct to 36 months and change), surrogates have been filling in for his speaking duties.  This week, two of his senior elders took a turn by giving a split sermon.  I hadn’t been paying much attention, but Ex-Cogger posted a comment pointing out something that Jim Jamieson stated:

Look at the two witnesses, God’s two prophets at this time, just not only what they’ve gone through since the Apostasy and how God built courage in them and courage to, you know…”No, I’m not here for a paycheck. I’m here to obey God,” and to walk away from that, and beginning this, starting this end-time work. Look at where we’re at right now. One of, you know, God’s prophets sitting falsely accused in prison, and then his wife, the prophet of God is, you know, out there spearheading this Church and carrying it on and doing the administration and being able to get up in front of congregations as she visits and update all of us and keep us updated on Ron and whatnot. And you know, just the courage that’s there with both of them. And, you know, we need to pray for not only God’s two witnesses, to give them Godly courage, but for each and every one of us, you know. How has God prepared us with Godly courage for what is ahead, you know? And He has, and we might not realize it, but the trials we go through and overcome, well, we learn that, you know, to trust in God and have that Godly courage.

Falsely accused?  Let’s see.  An IRS agent spent 3 1/2 years investigating Ron before an indictment was brought.  This evidence was present in open court in a trial before a jury of his peers who were pretty disgusted by what the heard and quickly found him guilty.  And then his wife?  At his sentencing hearing, the judge stated that he considered Laura an equal conspirator with Ron and on that basis declined to enhance his sentence for being the leader of the criminal conspiracy to cheat Cesar of that which was his.

As far as Ron “no here for a paycheck”, here’s what else Ron had to say about paychecks.  In his sermon of December 29, 2007, he had this to say about what would be the case if his prophecies were not fulfilled:

There’s really a simple answer — he’s a false prophet. I get tons of email every day from people saying ‘We’ll, I guess in 2009 you’re going to be saying this or saying that, or trying to explain to people..” No, I’m done. Just to be real candid with you, so people know and people understand, ……, again that’s the only answer. There is only one answer. …. The world is not like that. You know people who are doing what is not right and they claim certain things or say certain things about what is given to them, and it doesn’t come to pass — then they have to madly change everything and do something else. Or say ‘God showed me this, and I just didn’t understand this, or God has revealed this to me now, and blah blah blah blah. ’ Because when it comes down to it, it’s about the paycheck. It’s about what are they going to do from here on out.

Jim, you’ve been in PKG long enough to have heard Ron make that statement.  You’ve been in PKG long enough to see Ron do exactly what he criticized other false prophets for doing.  You have court transcripts detailing Ron’s tax evasion, available on this website under “Criminal Case” linked at the top of every page on the website.  These transcripts are available directly on line from the federal court.  With all the Lies and Broken Promises Ron has uttered and you have heard yourself, you think he was falsely accused?  Willful ignorance and self deception.

Update: Jocko pointed out another segment in Jim’s sermon:

You know, I know somebody that’s left recently, that that was what they, when they read the book, 2008, they said that’s what proved to them that this was God’s Church and whatnot. But it’s still true! I mean, you know, he gave that sermon in December of ’94, and 40 Sabbaths to the hour… And we have two people that were in that audience that can witness to that, and you can pull up his death certificate. Anyway, my point being is that did happen. And that individual that I was speaking of, you know, okay, if that happened, it’s still true, and that’s what they considered to be the thing that proved that this was God’s Church. But they’re no longer with us!

Jim, maybe these people decided that Ron’s 100% failure at prophesying proved it wasn’t.  Or maybe they read the part in my Lies and Broken Promises page that proveded that it wasn’t “to the hour” when Tkach died 40 weeks later.  Jim, please: do pull up Tkach’s death certificate and see what the hour of his death was.  You should definitely do that.

True Fellowship Part 13

Ron seems to now be on a 3-week schedule for his posting.  Probably his #2 scratchings need a lot of post-editing.

——– Ron’s posting —————————–

Not Called, But Sanctified: In the last section, it was covered how that sanctification does not mean that an unbelieving mate or children are being offered a calling from God due to their being “sanctified.”

There is a sanctification that enables one to come into God’s presence on a “physical plane,” as with ancient Israel, and there is then a sanctification that additionally requires a “calling” in order to come into a spiritual relationship with God.

This has been addressed and stated in this specific manner in order to help clarify some of the “process” of how God has worked within the environment of the Church and how some aspects of this same process will work in the future. As this subject continues to unfold, it would be good to be reminded that God does not owe anyone the begettal of His spirit. Although it is God’s will and His desire that all would “receive” His favor and means for becoming part of His Family, the reality is that this brings us back to what determines such an outcome; it is a personal choice whether one will receive it or not, when it is offered.

So when considering the condition in a family where only one mate has been drawn and called by God, there is much that can be learned about a process whereby God works with those who are able to come into the environs of the Church. Some of what we are covering would not be as clearly grasped if it had been revealed during any one of the seven eras of the Church. Instead, God is giving it now as we are in the transitional period between the completed sealing of the 144,000 and their resurrection to spirit life into Elohim at Christ’s coming. As a result, we can now more readily look back at what God has created to this point concerning the God Family. We can especially come to more perfectly see how He has worked within the Church over the past nearly 2,000 years and why He has done so in the manner He has. We are being given these things now because aspects of this same process will be at work throughout the Millennium.

Before more closely examining this, it would first be expedient to focus upon the beliefs of the Church concerning this matter of sanctification of an unbelieving mate. Due to what has previously been believed about such sanctification, it has been thought that such a person (a sanctified unbelieving mate) had the choice of a calling at any time, and we were wrong. They do not! Such thinking will and has affected the attitudes, judgments, and “expectations” exercised (in treatment and acceptance) toward such individuals. The idea that an unbelieving mate or children, due to sanctification, have the ability to “see” the truth on a spiritual plane if they would just simply choose to listen to or read it is not true, nor is such judgment toward them right or even fair.

Previous to covering this matter of sanctification of an unbelieving mate, three specific groups were categorized of those who “have not been called” (1a, b, & c). A fourth group has now been introduced who would be categorized as 1d. That group would consist of those “who have been sanctified, who are not against God.” All four groups are separate and distinct, and each must be understood for who they are when it comes to judging righteous judgment.

Under this fourth group, it is very important to also make the distinction between those “who are against God,” and those “who have been sanctified, who are not against God.” The reason for this is because it must be understood that anyone who is in the state of being “against God” can never be sanctified to come into God’s presence while in that state. This means that if only one mate has been called and is baptized into the Church, then the other unbelieving mate and any children can only be sanctified if they are not against God.

Additionally, if an unbelieving mate and/or children are sanctified and then at any time turn against God, then they are then no longer sanctified and cleansed to be in God’s presence within the environs of the Church. It needs to be emphasized that they are simply in the category of those who have “not been called” of God, “who are against God” (1c). It is important to understand that these are to be clearly seen and judged as those who are “against God,” whose group and their characteristics have already been addressed.

What has now been covered to this point concerning all four groups (1a, b, c, & d) should give far greater insight and discernment for judging those who have not been called of God.

Indeed, it is an awesome thing to understand what God is saying about those who can receive sanctification in order to be in His presence. As Hebrews 9:13-14 was covered in the previous section, God is showing that sanctification (to be in God’s presence on a physical plane) to cleanse a mate or any children is not by the sprinkling of ashes of a heifer, but by the life of God and Christ dwelling “in” a believing mate, who has been sanctified to be in God’s presence on a spiritual plane.

Affect of Sanctification
It now needs to be stated that the children of two believing parents (begotten of God through the sacrifice of Christ) are also sanctified in the same manner as when one parent is “in” God’s Church. This also means that they are not owed a calling, but that God may do so according to His will.

Indeed, a sanctified mate and sanctified children are cleansed in order to be able to come into God’s presence on a physical plane in much the same manner as ancient Israel was, but with the potential of far greater blessings. Such are able to attend Sabbath services (weekly and yearly, but never Passover) and other functions where Church members gather together. They are always welcome, if they are sanctified.

God’s purpose in training, molding, and transforming a believing mate can carry determining factors for “when” the unbelieving mate might be called. Such things are fully a matter of God’s personal calling, timing, and purpose. In addition, a sanctified mate’s and/or sanctified children’s attitude and response to God concerning what they can see through physical knowledge (as with the Israelites) can also have a bearing on God’s response and grace (with a calling) that He may choose to grant them.

That is why Paul went on to explain the importance of a called mate’s “example” in faithfully living God’s way. That example and love (agape – true giving and sacrificing love) they learn to live toward others, including the example of those in the Church, which should be doing the same, can have a strong bearing on an unbelieving (sanctified) mate’s response to God and the Church. However, the “calling” is always according to God’s purpose. In some cases, He may choose to call someone, and in other cases, not to call someone at a specific moment in time. Yet, a believing mate’s “example” and that of the Church should always be a right one, even though that may have no impact on a loved-one’s life. It is still a matter of God’s calling, and in what He may have purposed for such an individual, even as to when it is the best time to grant them salvation (a calling).

“For how do you know, Oh wife, whether you shall save your husband (as explained above concerning one’s example and resulting impact it may have)? Or how do you know, Oh husband, whether you shall save your wife” (1 Cor. 7:16)?

Every baptized parent desires that their child (or children) will receive what God offers to them in knowledge and truth (on a physical plane) of how to live life, with the hope that they will then choose to live by those things. There are far too many factors to be addressed here, in any real depth, which have strong bearing upon a child’s response or even their ability to respond to truth that is made available to them through sanctification. Their learning is primarily limited on a physical plane, except where God may grant deeper spiritual insight into some things (because of His purpose in their life). Therefore, differing circumstances such as God’s purpose, the age of a child or children at the time of a parent’s or parents’ calling, the influence of friends, an unbelieving mate’s (if applicable) attitude and response to the Church, primary inherited and learned traits, parental and Church examples, etc., determine a wide variety of responses from children.

Although the sanctification of ancient Israel, and then that of the sanctification of a mate and children, has been to grant a presence on a physical plane to come before God, there is also a big difference between the two. That difference concerns the level (depth) of knowledge that God has granted to those sanctified to Himself, His Son, and to His Church. Not only can far greater knowledge on a physical plane be gleaned, but also much understanding as well. This is the result of God’s progressive revelation of Himself and His purpose to mankind ever since the days of ancient Israel. Just the simple matter of additional Biblical history that has unfolded, as well as the addition of many books of the Bible, especially of that in the New Testament writings, has incredibly enhanced the potential for far greater knowledge and understanding.

Such vastness of knowledge and understanding given within the environs of the Church are awesomely powerful because the Church has the “truth” of such matters, whereas the world does not. It is primarily the children who have been sanctified who have an ability to be molded in such truth on a physical plane. The younger a child is able to begin having such an experience, and the longer their exposure in a positive and truthful environment is, the greater the potential will be for a child to make better decisions when they are of a more mature age; however, that does not mean they will. All of this is far beyond what the ancient Israelites had.

It would also be good at this point to mention that in recent years God has made it evident that He has given children greater insight and greater ability to grasp on a spiritual plane than in times past. This has much to do with the advantage many are now being given since they will also have opportunity to be the first generation to live on into the Millennium.

It should also be obvious that a longer, more positive exposure, combined with the willing positive response of children, has much to do with God receiving them (in order to offer a calling) once they are of a matured age to choose God’s way of life for themselves. God’s will is to work in families and to grant them (primarily the children) favor (grace) if they respond in a good way toward God and His Church, and if a parent who is called is continually faithful to God.

The 144,000
Having addressed some of the varying aspects of sanctification, it is now necessary to look back over time in order to be able to better grasp and understand God’s purpose in those whom He has been calling into the environs of the Church from its beginning. Foremost, God has been calling those whom He has chosen to teach, train, fashion, and transform into a creation of the 144,000 who are to be resurrected into His Family. They will fulfill a completed and perfected number of spirit beings who form God’s government to serve with Christ at his return.

However, not all who have been called to have a spiritual relationship with God and to become impregnated with His holy spirit over the past nearly 2,000 years have been called to that specific purpose (to be in the 144,000). Presently, the strongest evidence of this is contained in the recent history of the Church. Of the many tens of thousands “called” during Philadelphia and Laodicea, God only purposed that an extremely small remnant would be awakened spiritually following the Apostasy. Then, of that small remnant that was awakened, only a fraction was to be sealed in order to fulfill the very small remaining number that would complete the final total of the 144,000.

Incredibly, God’s purpose has always been that a vast majority (63,000) of those called during Philadelphia and Laodicea and that are still alive toward the very end of this age (shortly before Christ’s actual coming) would be awakened spiritually from the sleep that followed the Apostasy. The purpose for this is so that they would be part of the beginning foundation of the Church at the start of the Millennium (Rev. 11:13).

God also predetermined that 7,000 (ten percent of a total of 70,000) would not live into that new age, but would die and be resurrected in the final 100 years. Many of these include the ministry, other leadership, and influential individuals from those two eras. The reason for this is that many of these individuals were held to a higher accountability for their actions in the time period just preceding and following the Apostasy. These individuals are not being allowed to immediately enter a greater “promised land” (the Millennium), but will have to wait until the Great White Throne to experience it.

All of this clearly reveals that 70,000 of the approximate 96,000 baptized members at the time of the Apostasy were never called for the purpose of becoming part of the 144,000. For the most part, they had been called to be among those who would live (physical lives) on into the reigning age of Christ’s rule in order to be the starting foundation of the Millennial Church at that time. However, there was a portion of these who experienced trial and testing (especially just preceding and following the Apostasy) to reveal their response (individual free choices) in order to determine if they might be among some of those who would be “chosen” and prepared to be among the firstfruits.

This group of 63,000 comprises those who fit into the categorized group mentioned earlier as “those who have been called” (2c). These are those “who became scattered after the Apostasy, but had not been formally disfellowshipped from God’s true Church.” These have been called and “chosen” to live on into the beginning of the millennial reign of Jesus Christ.

Having addressed the “small remnant” and the 70,000 from the time of the Apostasy, the question that still remains is, “What about all of the others (approximately 26,000) who had once been part of the Worldwide Church of God?” That answer will follow after further understanding of what God is giving concerning “how and why” He has called various ones into the environs of the Church.

The first phase of God’s plan of salvation has always been to make ready His firstfruits to reign in His Kingdom with Christ, at his coming. During the first 4,000 years, God called and worked more directly and meticulously with those who would comprise some of the major portions of the structure and organization of His future ruling Family of the 144,000. In the nearly 2,000 years following this, a far greater number of people began to be called into His Church in order to fully fill and prepare the larger remaining structure of that government, which would be finished being built just before Jesus Christ would come as King of all kings within that ruling body. To accomplish this, God began drawing and calling “many” of whom “few would be chosen,” the few He would “select” to complete the 144,000.

Ever since the Church had been established on Pentecost in 31 AD, there are “many” who have been called, of which “few” became part of the 144,000. Although called, most were not meant to become part of this governing body. There are a lot of reasons why “many” have been called. The overall, predominant reason was to provide an environment in which some parts were to be good and a lot would be bad, in order to better teach, try, and test a “select group” through actual experiences in life that would work to mold and prepare them for God’s ruling Kingdom.

The mind does not become convicted and transformed by simply receiving instruction and then growing in knowledge. Knowledge given from God, along with the ability to understand it, is more firmly established in the mind because of choices and judgments one must make through personal convictions that are formed as a result of difficult experiences in life. Such experiences are designed to produce responses (whether right or wrong – a matter of free choice) that define an individual. These are experiences that require judgment and response, which cannot be simply ignored (as even that is a choice). When yielding to God’s holy spirit, this process of “actually experiencing” the knowledge and truth God has given, enhances conviction of God’s ways, and then works to indeed transform the mind.

Not An Environment of Peace
Within the environs of the Church, God created a wide varying range of environments to be experienced, in which His called “select” (those in the 144,000) could be transformed and fitted (molded) into His ruling Family. It was not to be an environment of peace and tranquility within the world, and not even within the environs of the Church. Those in God’s Church are told that they can have real peace, but that is through being in God and Christ, which comes from living in unity with God through confidence and faith in His plan and purpose being worked out in oneself. It is a “spiritual” peace of the mind one can have in their relationship, with comfort and trust in God working in them and in the Church.

However, Christ made it clear, as we have already looked at a portion of what he said, that we were not called to have peace “in the world,” and that includes not having peace in many of the relationships that have been within the environs of the Church. It is so very important to grasp the significance in what Christ stated about a great number of our relationships, as “few” have survived this portion of the process that has “worked” in their calling.

The “many” have succumbed to strong pulls from unbalanced, unsound, adversarial, and/or improper relationships that have led to their making wrong choices. This in itself is an environment within and outside the Church that can be witnessed and/or experienced that can help produce deeper conviction and transformation “in those who yield” to God working in them. Those who make wrong choices through what they witness and/or experience, no matter why those wrong choices were made, results in not being amongst the final “chosen” of those “called and chosen” by God to be in His reigning government.

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against (to not be in agreement or harmony because of the truth – in opposition due to it) his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be those of his own household (family). He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me (not worthy of a relationship with God and Christ), and he who loves a son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me” (Mat. 10:34-38).

Division, disagreement, and opposition always become manifest in close relationships once a person is called to receive God’s truth – when called into the Church. It is at such a time as this that “many” are tried and tested as to whether or not they will put God first in their life. Such division, disagreement, and opposition not only occur quickly in the beginning in close relationships in family (with those not called) and other close relationships, but in time, the exact same thing will try “many” as this also occurs in relationships within the environs of the Church itself. Too often, people have not made it clear to others that they “stand” firm in putting God first in their life. Instead, they have often been deceitful with members of the Church by making various excuses why they must limit their time with them in order to placate another. They can also become deceitful in a relationship they have with the person who is disgruntled (because of that relationship the other has with the Church) and too often they are found compromising by giving into demands, harassment, etc. Being deceitful is not of God. It is a spirit of lying.

God has given us the analogy of planting seeds and raising crops to help us better understand the necessity for the “adverse” environs of the Church to exist in order to enable the creation of spiritual growth in firstfruits. This process makes it possible to have plants that can become mature and thereby produce varying levels of yield (fruit/grain). The Parable of the Sower (Mat. 13:18-23, Mk. 4:14-20, & Lk. 8:4-15) and the Parable of the Tares (Mat. 13:24-30, 36-43) reveals much about this process. Rather than quoting here all that is stated about these two parables, a simple summarized comparison will be given to explain this process of “many” being called, but “few” who are chosen. This is all in the context of those whom God has called to potentially be among the firstfruits (the 144,000).

In the Parable of the Sower, seed is sown; some seeds fall by the wayside, some among stones, and other among areas where weeds (thorns) spring up and work to choke out the seed. This pictures the condition and effect of the world as it has been over the past 6,000 years. It is a world filled with adversity toward God, His Son, His Church, and His word. In the Millennium and the Great White Throne, these same conditions in which there is such a lack of good ground in which to plant the seed will not exist. Most of what is described as preventing growth and production is either more directly from Satan (and his demons) or is the product of what Satan has produced in the world that works directly against God’s word and spirit to produce growth.

God knows and has always known where the seed is sown. In order to be in God’s ruling government in His Kingdom (in position and placement), the 144,000 were predetermined and designed to be molded and constructed (created) in an “adverse” environment. Much of that environment is the simple result (effect) of where the seed fell, and where it fell is the result of the response – the free choice – of those who were given the opportunity of a calling. Although God knew that the result of free choice following a calling would be that only a “few” would be chosen to be in His government (the 144,000), He also provided a means to “save the spirit” of many of these in another time.

We understand that the angels and mankind were created with the ability of “free choice” by being made free moral agents. However, for the creation of a highly faithful angelic realm, God knew that for a long period of time “peace” would have to be sacrificed. From the time that “free choice” led to adversity, divisiveness, and disagreement with God, “peace” has not existed in the angelic realm (nor on earth) and will not be fully reestablished until Satan and the demons no longer are in existence. But from that time, when peace no longer reigned, until now, the angels who remained faithful to God, through all that they have witnessed millennia upon millennia, have become stronger through this time in their conviction of God’s great power, wisdom, might, and “right way” (in all His perfect ways being right).

In a similar manner, in order for the creation of a highly trained and strong government of 144,000 in God’s Kingdom, peace within the world, within families and other close relationships, and even within the environs of the Church, would not exist, but instead, much adversity. It is through the process of those who are “faithfully yielding” to the power of God’s holy spirit to work in them in this kind of adversarial environment that the creation of such a government is possible.

The Many
It is important to know that there are also “many” whom God has reserved from among the seven eras of the Church (of all who have died prior to Christ’s coming) who will be resurrected in the Great White Throne. A large portion of these were “never called” to become part of the 144,000. Yet another substantial portion of these had been called and then tried and tested to reveal their response (individual free choices) in order to determine if they might be among those who would be chosen and then prepared to be among the firstfruits. For as we understand, all who are chosen, who are of the “few” (of the many called), must first be tried and tested before being chosen. So all of these who were not called to the specific purpose of being among the firstfruits, and all of those who were called to potentially be among the firstfruits, but who were not chosen, comprise those who fell by the wayside, upon stony areas, or in areas where weeds (thorns) choked them out. All of these became those who would be witness (during the Great White Throne) of the various Church eras and of the conditions that existed for God’s Church at those times.

In a similar manner to those who will comprise the foundation of the Church at the beginning of the Millennium, there are those from the seven eras, from among the “many”, who will help comprise the beginning foundation of the Church at the beginning of the 100-year period. In all that these people have witnessed in life during the time-period they lived in, along with the knowledge they had received within the environs of the Church, they will witness and be part of a great resurrection that will (to a large degree) stir them to deep repentance. The awesome advantage of truth they had received and those things they had witnessed within the Church will work to help thrust them ahead of all others at the beginning of this Great White Throne. These will comprise that beginning foundation along with those who will continue to live on from the end of the Millennium and into that final age of salvation offered to mankind.

A very large portion of the “many” who have been called through time will be resurrected physically and awakened spiritually at the beginning of the final 100-years. There is also a sizable portion of these who had fallen by the wayside, upon stony areas, or where weeds choked them out who turned against God to the degree that they became set against Him. Such people will be in the resurrection to judgment that follows the Great White Throne.

It is this group (who became set against God) that make up “some” of the number of the 26,000 mentioned earlier that had been in the Worldwide Church of God. But an even larger portion of these (the 26,000) are from a group who are described in the Parable of the Tares.

In that parable, it shows how Satan planted seeds (tares) that were not of God’s doing (of those not called by Him), but allowed by God. Not only were those who were called by God to be tried and tested in relationships once someone began to fall by the wayside, or among stones, or weeds, but they were also tested and tried by those who were fully false members – plants of Satan. These consist of a wide variety of people of which nearly all simply left in time or were disfellowshipped (although they were never in a true fellowship with God anyway).

Those who became set against God and those who were tares comprise that number of 26,000 who had been in the Worldwide Church of God or who were pseudo-members of the organization.

Of a final note concerning the tares, it needs to be noted that they consisted of two primary groups of people. There were those who were simply deceived and influenced by Satan to feign conversion or they were of a more sinister group who were (or became) “set against” God. Those large numbers of tares that were deceived and falsely influenced will have opportunity of a calling in the Great White Throne, while those set against God will be resurrected to judgment afterward.

(Part 14 will follow.)

True Fellowship Part 12

False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s postings now seem to be on a 3-week schedule.  Perhaps that’s 1 week of his working with a #2 pencil and 2 weeks of Laura rewriting them.

————————  Weinland’s posting of April 3 —————————

We have now come full circle in this series in order to more soundly address matters of judgment associated with discerning the differences among those who do not have “spiritual fellowship” with God at this time.

God has been revealing a clearer understanding of what true fellowship with Him entails. This has also magnified the instruction which states how someone is able to worship God (have a true relationship with Him), or if they are incapable of having such a relationship at all. For it is clearly stated that, “God is a spirit” and those who worship Him must worship “in spirit and in truth” (Jn. 4:24).

This final area that will now be covered is one in which there has always been much confusion within the membership of the Church. It is about how to judge and then to act upon such judgment concerning those who are not in the fellowship of the Church. This final section will answer many of the questions that relate to this issue.

As with the last section, where a categorization was given for those who become “set against” God, a categorization will be made here at the beginning for those who are not in a “spiritual fellowship” with God at this time. Then, each of these will be explained more fully as we proceed further into this subject. We are to learn to better discern these differences through “clearer judgment,” and then “act” upon such understanding more wisely. Within this category of those who are not in a “spiritual fellowship” with God at this time, there are two primary groups of people:

1. Those who “have not been called”
a.) Who are highly indulgent in immoral and evil living
b.) Who are among most who are “of the world,” living out normal physical lives
c.) Who are against God’s Church

2. Those who “have been called”
a.) Who have been disfellowshipped and have no active outward display of ill will toward the Church
b.) Who have been disfellowshipped and have an active outward display of ill will toward God’s Church
c.) Who became scattered after the Apostasy, but have not been formally disfellowshipped from God’s true Church

Judge Righteous Judgment
As we proceed through this final section, some will be “tried” in how they may have to make some adjustments in current relationships and/or how they currently view them. God is helping us to more fully refine our thinking about relationships, especially in how to more perfectly judge them.

God’s Kingdom will soon be established on this earth and some of the parameters here will change when that begins. For example, group #1, or those who “have not been called” will begin changing at that time, for many will have the opportunity of a calling in the Millennium. But in all of this, God is teaching us much about a process of attaining to a stronger ability to “judge righteous judgment.”

Sometimes in the beginning of one’s calling, people can struggle with some of the things Christ had to say about judging. Although he made statements such as, “judge not, that you be not judged,” he also stated, “judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment”. In all these instances, Christ is warning that we should not judge by normal human judgment based on sentiment, pride, prejudice, selfishness, etc., but that it is to be based upon God’s word and ways (purpose, design, and will).

Christ said, “You judge after the flesh (via human nature). I judge no man (in the context of ‘after the flesh’). Yet if (when) I judge, my judgment is true, for I am not alone (not reliant upon self), but I and the Father who sent me” (Jn. 8:15-16). He was showing that right judgment must originate from God and through His inspiration (conveyed by His holy spirit). This is also in line with the statement he made: “Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous (the source being from God) judgment” (Jn. 7:24).

Once we are more perfectly able to judge in such a manner, then we and we alone must choose if we will live according to such judgment. It is the difference between living by (or according to) “our own will” or choosing to “live by God’s will.” Our Passover stated it beautifully: “I can of my own self do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just because I do not seek my own will (to live by that), but the will of the Father who has sent me” (Jn. 5:30).

The key to the difference of living our lives our way, or God’s way, especially in all relationships, is in what was stated at the very beginning of this series.

In Part 1 under the section heading of “God First,” the following statements (in quotations) were written:

“Relationships reveal what is in the heart, desire, and ‘true’ convictions of one who has entered the Body of Christ. Jesus Christ plainly stated how important it is that God be first in a person’s life, above all other relationships, ‘if’ a person desires to remain ‘in’ true fellowship with God.”

“If any come to me (through the Body of Christ) and does not love less (often translated as ‘hate’ – but in meaning and context is to ‘love less by comparison’) his father, mother, wife (or husband), children, brothers, sisters, and yes, even his own life also, then he cannot be my disciple” (Lk. 14:26).

“Christ is clearly saying that in order to be in a true relationship of continuing fellowship with him and God that one must always place God first in all matters of life in all the closest of human relationships.”

Before proceeding, it must be stated that all too often, some people’s spiritual weakness and self-inflected trials in close relationships come from not “standing on the principle” (living by, applying it to life) that God is indeed first in their life. Too often, there is vacillation, blindness, and even downright failure to actually place God first above “loved ones.” The question must then be asked, “Whom do we truly love most (first)?”

Basic Judgment
In this series, those who are in God’s Church have had magnified to them the awesomeness, privilege, seriousness, and humbling honor it is to be granted true fellowship with the Eternal God, His Son, and His Church. In this final segment, we are focusing on learning how to better judge our relationship with those who do not now have such a relationship with God.

Making a categorized list of those who do not have such a relationship with God is for the purpose of turning our attention to a sound process for exercising basic judgment. This is because human nature tends to judge “after the flesh” – by the way “I” see it (“self” sees it). Although this has just been covered, it must be emphasized again in this manner. The reason for this is because righteous judgment requires we turn our attention fully away from how “we” instinctively see something (via human nature) to the way God shows us to “see,” which is in a sound spiritual manner.

The process for such judgment we are being shown here, concerning those who do not now have an active relationship with God, is quite basic. It is first divided into two basic categories: “those who have not been called” and “those who have been called.” Our ability to judge such matters does have a direct bearing on our overall relationship with God.

This is truly a simple place to begin, but again, although it is simple, it serves to turn our attention away from judging “by the flesh” (from carnal reasoning) to focusing on seeing such matters in light of “other’s” relationship to God, His plan, and purpose for human life.

Not Called
The first area of focus is upon those who have not been called by God. In this group, there are three basic sub groups of people to be considered. Within this, there are some things that God is revealing, correcting, and refining concerning past understanding which will help us to clarify many past and current relationships.

The first area that is listed here is not a difficult one to judge, and obviously, God’s people should not be engaged in any “relationship” with such individuals. This concerns those who are highly indulgent in immoral and evil living. This concerns those who openly and outwardly live real evil in life. However, there are biblical admonitions that God’s people should not even be in environments and close relationships with any that live highly immoral lives. There is plenty said in scripture about this so there is no need to more fully cover it here.

The second group is often more difficult for many to judge when it comes to the kind of relationship we have with them. This consists of most of those living within the “western” world around us that we see and come into contact with day by day. It is one that we would simply see as “normal,” in and of the world. They are of the same group that most of us were in until God called us out of the world. It is with this group that we so eagerly look forward to being called by God. It is with so many within this group that we hope will have the opportunity of living on into the Millennium and then being able to learn and live full and blessed lives.

It is this group that can sometimes be treated with impatience by us, as we can tend to “expect” more from people and how we are treated by them. Yet, the bottom line is that they are not yet called and “are who they are” until they can begin to be transformed into something different. So it is always expedient upon us to treat them in a right manner, with patience and understanding, as we have already been blessed to be called now. So in many ways, it is with this group that more is required of us – of how we exercise God’s love toward them and that we not “expect” something of them that they really cannot yet deliver.

Before giving some specific examples that are more “common,” over which some have difficulty judging, the third group of “those who have not been called” needs to be mentioned. The reason for this is that “those who are against God’s Church” (1c) is one of the primary “deciding factors” for judgment of those “in the world” and not yet called out of it.

Both groups of 1B and 1C are made up of people, who by nature, are at “enmity against God” (Rom. 8:7). Most know nothing of God’s Church. Some who know you may know some basic things about what you believe. It may be about you keeping the seventh day (Saturday) Sabbath, foods you do not eat, or that you do not observe Christmas or Easter. None of these “agree” with your belief (Rom. 8:7) and they most certainly do not want this for their way of life.

However, there can be big differences in how they respond to you, your belief, and/or the Church (those in it). While all who are in the world who have not been called are simply “against” God, there are many who are tolerant of different beliefs even though they do not agree with the Church and its teachings, since they do not have the ability to do so. Many simply like you as a person because they like the qualities they see in you in the way you live and how you treat them. This makes up most of those who are simply “of the world” (1b), and it is with these that we are able to interact and have some form of relationship and friendship. This is said in the context of physical human relationships (friendships) that can be rewarding and meaningful, but obviously void of the added “spiritual” level of relationship that we look forward to having with them in the future.

Standing Firm in God
This is akin to how Jesus Christ interacted with the world around him. Others around him at that time did not have God’s spirit dwelling “in” them, with the exception of John the Baptist. These relationships were more of a matter of how Jesus himself treated others, just as we should. Yet there were many who were outwardly against him and what he believed and taught. He did not seek nor work to build any relationship with them, but stood firm in his “stand” for God and the truth. He did not strive to make peace with them, as they were outwardly against His Father, himself, and the truth, and they had no desire to have any “peace” with him.

Jesus Christ actually said something that is quite contrary to what many in traditional Christianity actually believe: “Do you suppose I have come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division” (Lk. 12:51). This is actually said in the context of close human relationships, because when someone is called there will be those who they have close relationships with that will no longer be close, but instead will be filled with outwardly manifested division and void of peace. When these things occur, God’s people are tried and tested as to their true stand in faithfulness, conviction, and of placing God first in their life.

Jesus Christ was “down to earth,” as the expression goes. He had no display of superiority, pride, or haughtiness, but displayed a humble, approachable, kind, and open demeanor to those around him – in all levels of life. This is our example of how we should interact in our relationships with the world around us.

We too are to stand firm in God, with God always being clearly first in our life. For those who respond in a friendly manner (within the world) to “who we are,” without wanting to or working to “change” us, then we can have meaningful, productive, and rewarding relationships and friendships. However, these cannot be compared to the added strength and purpose that comes from “spiritual” fellowship, but at a future time that can potentially become added as well.

Most can especially relate to this desire of future hope in relationships within physical family. Although being “in” God’s Church (both a husband and wife, or other family members together), by definition, does not automatically bring about happy marriages and/or happy family life, because for such to exist, one must “live” God’s ways to attain this kind of fullness and richness in life. Candidly, I’ve known of a few marriages and families where only one person has been called and the marriage and/or families were closer, more caring, and filled with more happiness than some marriages and families in which both spouses and/or the family is together in God’s Church and had access to God’s spirit to make such fullness and happiness in life a much greater reality.

Some questions about relationships can become more difficult to judge when someone is more emotionally invested due to a marriage relationship, or that of a parent to child, child to parent, siblings, or of other close relationships. These can become very difficult because of the personal attachments and longings that exist in a marriage, family, and/or close friendships. But at the top of all such considerations is the fact that God must be placed first – that one stands firm “in God” above all else.

It would be good at this juncture to repeat some of what was written toward the beginning of this series under the heading of “Second Commandment.”

“In covering the first commandment, it was stated, ‘God is saying that no one should place any relationship (fellowship) ‘before’ or ‘in front of’ Him and His purpose in Elohim. He is stating that to do so is to place some other family (fellowship, relationship) against Him and against His purpose in Elohim – to raise up ‘other gods’ before Him – some other god family (other god elohim).’”

“It is truly one of the most heinous acts of all idolatry to ‘raise up’ some other relationship (family, fellowship) above what God has called us to become – His Family Elohim – which is currently in His begotten Church. Indeed, God’s Church is a Family!”

Those Against God’s Church
One of the most needful and yet often one of the most difficult places for one to stand firm in God concerns the situation where one’s mate or other close family member (who has not been called) takes a stand against God’s Church (against members and/or beliefs). In such an environment the only answer and action to be taken is a clear response that God and His Church come first in your life, and that this will not change!

Either the person vocalizing their disdain for God (the truth, God’s Church, towards yourself as a member, etc.) ceases doing so and agrees to love you and accept you for “who you are,” or not. If they will not accept you for who you are and love you for who you are, then their true response will be one of continuing their attacks (anger, disdain, resentment) against you and the Church. That will not change toward you unless they change toward you. If they will not change, then what kind of relationship actually exists and what kind of relationship can be built upon such a thing? If they love you for who you are, then they will respect you, be kind to you, and enjoy being with you even though they do not agree with your beliefs.

Can meaningful and lasting peace ever dwell where there is such division? It is a simple truth, a clear statement, which Jesus made about a basic family structure that also applies to the greater structure of a kingdom itself. “And if a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand” (Mk. 3:25). Peace cannot be produced in a divided home – only compromise. Compromise can only lead the one who is called to distance themselves from much needed fellowship with God and His people. In such cases of compromise, people can tend to pull away from God (His Church and His people) in order to appease someone who is “against God.” In such a case, God is not being placed first, and all too often a person is actually directly disobeying both the First and Second Commandment, blatantly so.

God gives strength, favor, and direct help to those who grow in learning how to place Him first in their life. Each must themselves discern, judge, and apply how this is to be accomplished in their life.

Misunderstood Principles
There are some awkward, unsettling, difficult, and at times very trying occurrences in relationships that often develop within the environment of the Church when someone is called into a relationship with God. These have often proven to be very hard to address by those who are called.

Paul addressed some of the most difficult issues that can arise. These have not been fully understood within the Church; however, God is now giving greater clarity. The first issue concerns one of the closest of relationships that God has given mankind to experience. It is in marriage. Yet the lesson from this first issue can also be applied to other relationships.

“To the rest I speak (as an apostle), but not (directed of, from) the Lord. If any brother (one called who is in the Church) has a wife that does not believe, and if she is pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away (‘put away’ is generally translated as ‘leave’). And the woman who has a husband who does not believe, and if he is pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave (same Gk. word translated as ‘put away’ in vs. 12) him” (1 Cor.7:12-13).

It is expedient that these verses be looked at much more closely. In the previous verses, Paul covered several issues concerning relationships and especially marriage relationships between those who are called and in God’s Church. Verses 12 and 13 go on to address a difference where only one in a marriage is called (is believing of the truth) and the other is not a believer – not called.

If someone wants to “change you” to being someone else, then they do not truly “accept you” or love you for who you are. If they do not truly love you, they will continue their attacks upon the Church. If they accept you and love you for who you are, then they will clearly cease from all attacks. Only then can there be a real and meaningful relationship to be built upon. Each person must decide for themselves how they choose to deal with such environments. However, it should also be understood that such adversarial environments can work against one’s spiritual strength and convictions.

Many have gone by the wayside because they have not stood firm “in God” and firm against such adversarial attitudes, spirit, and actions against themselves, God’s Church, and God’s truth – against God. Over the years, due to close family ties (or friendships), there have been far too many who have worked to appease, console, compromise, and have given in to attacks from those whom they love, yet that has never produced any lasting or meaningful peace. Instead, it generally just weakens a person spiritually in conviction, faithfulness, and joy in the truth.

In these two verses in 1 Corinthians 7, the expression “put away” is generally translated as “leave,” and in this context it is about a mate leaving the marriage either by legal separation or divorce. It is about the matter of whether a person is free before God to put away – to leave – that relationship. The deciding factor here rests on whether the unbelieving mate is “pleased to dwell” with their believing mate.

The word translated as “pleased” into English is from a compound word in Greek (composed of two separate Greek words). The first word is “union” or “being close together” and is sometimes translated as “companionship” or “association.” The other word means, “to think well of,” as “in approval of,” “thinking good of,” or “to be pleased with a person.” In the context used here, it gives a complete meaning of “thinking well of the relationship – the marriage” just as it is. It is simply another way of stating that the unbelieving mate accepts their believing mate “the way they are” – for who they are, even in their own personal beliefs, although they do not believe the same.

Although Paul was not charged by Jesus Christ to add this instruction to the Church, nevertheless, he was under God’s inspiration and he was in unity with Him as he wrote this for what the Church was to observe (thus “being bound on earth”). He clearly told members of the Church that if they had an unbelieving mate who accepted them (for who they were) and thought well of them “in their belief,” that they were not to leave that relationship – not to divorce them. However, he is also showing by this that if a mate is “against God” and is not accepting them in their belief, but is instead against them (wanting them to change to something else), then they are free to make the choice of separation or divorce.

This is also obviously true for anyone who has a mate who is turning (or has fully turned) away from the truth and is not “pleased to dwell with them” in their continuing belief. In other words, the one who turns against God (and against the believing mate) begins to pressure their believing mate to change in some form or manner to begin to also turn from God (away from His truth).

The lesson contained here from this matter of how to judge such relationships in marriage is also one that individuals need to weigh, consider, judge, and then apply to other close relationships. If someone who is not pleased with you in the way you are, in who you have become as you are being transformed, and they are “against God” and want you to change, then you are certainly “free” to put away – to leave –such a friendship and/or relationship. In such cases, it is so very often spiritually expedient to do so.

Sanctified Relationship
Another issue often misunderstood and/or misapplied is in what Paul addressed that actually follows directly behind the instruction that has just been covered.

“For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife (who is in the Church), and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband (who is in the Church), or else your children would be unclean, but now they are sanctified” (1 Cor. 7:14).

This verse is merely stating that an unbelieving mate and any children born from that marriage are “sanctified,” which means they are “set apart for holy use and purpose” due to that relationship. However, one must understand what that holy use and purpose is. This does not mean that the unbelieving mate or any subsequent children are being called by God or are even being offered a calling from God, unlike what previously has been believed within the Church concerning sanctification.

It would be helpful to consider what this sanctification is all about in order to more clearly understand how this is being applied to such a relationship. A simple statement about sanctification is used in Hebrews where a comparison is being made of physical sacrifices performed by the Israelites with that of the power God has given through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ to forgive and remove sin.

“For if the blood of bulls and goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, ‘sanctifies’ to the purifying of the flesh, then how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God” (Heb. 9:13-14)?

The “sanctification” being spoken of here was for “holy use and purpose” so that Israel was able to exist in a unique physical relationship with God, but not in a spiritual one.

In like manner, God sanctifies an unbelieving mate and children so that they may be in a unique and indeed special relationship with someone in whom God dwells. It is God’s presence that sanctifies, and in this case, individuals are able to enter a unique physical relationship with one who has been begotten of God (in whom God dwells), but the relationship is not spiritual, just as Israel’s relationship was not spiritual.

This sanctification is not a “calling” into a spiritual relationship with God, nor is it “offered” because of sanctification alone. So someone who is sanctified in order to be in such a physical relationship, due to the one who believes, is not being called, nor can they automatically choose at any time to be in a “called” – spiritual – relationship with God.

It is solely within God’s power, timing, and purpose for who and when anyone is called by Him.

There are potentially awesome blessings that such sanctified individuals can receive in their life, just as there were potentially awesome blessings available to the Israelites because of their sanctification. For the Israelites, receiving those blessings depended upon the personal choices of each individual with what they accepted (willingly received) from what God offered to them, and then choosing to apply it in how they would then live their life, according to what God had given. This obviously involved physical aspects of life, concerning such things as clean and unclean foods, tithing, observance of the Sabbath, and other of God’s laws. God blessed obedience, even on a physical plane.

Other nations were not sanctified as Israel had been blessed to be. God gave Israel much truth of His way in which life is to be lived. The rest of the nations were void of such knowledge. In like manner, there is no one in the world who has knowledge of God’s truth until they are blessed to come into contact with it. Those who are “called” of God to enter a spiritual relationship – fellowship – with Him, His Son, and His Church are so very profoundly blessed above all mankind. Those who are sanctified and able to come into an environment where truth dwells are also profoundly blessed, even if it is limited to a more physical plane.

(This concludes Pt. 12, as more must follow which cannot be readily received until this portion has had time to be more fully consumed and digested.)

True Fellowship Part 11

False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s posting schedule shows continuous improvement, this one now three weeks since the last one.  At this rate, how long before the nirvana of no new posts at all?

— Ron’s Rewritten Present Truth (cm) ———————-

Present Truth & Correcting Error: Before continuing with this series, it is necessary to address and clarify some past beliefs of which there have been recent corrections over the past couple of years. This involved correction to some events that we had believed would occur toward the end of the Millennium, but which actually occur after it has concluded.

In the February 1972 issue of the magazine, Tomorrow’s World, in a “Personal” of Herbert W. Armstrong, he addressed the matter of correcting error in God’s Church. It would be good to quote a portion of what he said:

“We (the Church) have not had to correct error many times. But each time we have corrected error, we have had one fewer error left. If we knew of any error still remaining, now, we would change it! If and when we find one in the future, we shall correct it! The one who follows that principle is the most free from error!”

“So, confessing such an error is one of the surest proofs to identify the people through whom the living Christ is working – and whom he is using!”

This was stated well and it is so very true concerning the importance of changing when confronted with error. Since the time that the remnant of God’s Church became fully established on Pentecost of 1998, there have been 36 new truths added to the Church. Each time a new truth has been established, some error has been exposed (revealed) and the Church has changed according to the “present truth” God has given it.

When God gives truth to His Church, it isn’t simply a matter of Him revealing everything there is to know about a specific subject. Being given knowledge is indeed a means for learning, but so often, God gives us more than just knowledge. By the way (means and process) He progressively reveals truth to us, we are able to grow in deeper “understanding” of His purpose and will of the “present truth” that He gives to us.

Instead of just being given simple “knowledge,” it is far more valuable to receive “understanding” so that conviction and agreement can become established more quickly and more deeply. This is the case concerning some of those things God has been revealing throughout this series.

Correction and Refinement
There is need, at this stage in what God is revealing, to correct a portion of “present knowledge” pertaining to how God will deal with those who have committed the unpardonable sin. It needs to be stated again that when speaking of the unpardonable sin that it is about sin from which a person will not repent, and because a person will not repent of sin, the sin cannot be forgiven – it is “unpardonable.”

The reality is that God knows when such a person will no longer or never repent because the “spirit in man” has become “set against” Him. God knows such “spirit essence” in the mind of such people. No human has such ability.

We have already addressed, refined, and corrected some knowledge from our past in this series. It has been made clear that Satan will not be released from his imprisonment that occurs at Christ’s coming until after the Millennium. Although this correction is not one of great magnitude at this immediate time, since it is so far into the future, it does lead us to now have a deeper grasp of how and why certain events will occur after the Millennium as they will.

It would be good to once again address some of this previous belief as we “then” understood it in the Worldwide Church of God. It was the long held belief that Satan and the demons would be released from their confinement toward the end of the Millennium before it was completed. It was further taken that Satan would then gather together an incredible vast army, from among mankind, in an effort to go up to destroy God’s holy city. However, it has already been addressed that this event of Satan’s release is not until after the Millennium is over.

It would be valuable to delve a little more deeply into what is actually stated in the Book of Revelation, within the context of Christ’s coming and the Millennium that will follow, concerning what happens to Satan throughout this period, including the time that follows it.

“I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, who is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him that he should deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years should be fulfilled. After that he must be loosened (released) for a little season” (Rev. 20:1-3).

As we review these verses, there are distinct events that need to be pointed out and commented upon, as these have much to do with some correction of previously held beliefs and a clearer refinement God is revealing to us. It would also be good to point out at this juncture that we are currently focusing upon verses that have been recorded now for the past 1,900 years, and during this period of time God’s Church has only been given this small amount of information about these events. It needs to be understood that once we cover more of what God is currently revealing to us, this may well be all that is given to the Church and there may not be more throughout the entirety of the Millennium. There are prophetic events that apply to Satan in the future which God will not fully reveal the meaning and purpose of until these events actually come to their time for fulfillment.

In these verses just quoted, it should jump out to you that Satan is not released during any period of the Millennium, and that clearly includes the end of that period of time as well. It states that Satan cannot be released until the thousand years are “fulfilled,” but that it will be “after” the Millennium is complete. It is important not to “read into” what these verses state, but to instead rely upon God to reveal the meaning to His Church in the same way He always has – through His apostles and prophets.

These verses do not say that the releasing of Satan will follow “immediately” after the Millennium is over or whether it will be a hundred years later, but that it is simply “after” that period of time (the Millennium) is fulfilled. However, God is now clearly revealing not only that Satan cannot be present with mankind during the Millennium, but that he cannot be present during the 100 years of judgment and salvation that is offered to the vast majority of mankind when they are given a second physical life. Satan cannot deceive nor perversely influence mankind during these specific periods of time. These verses do state that when Satan is released it will be for a limited period of time – “a little season.”

This “little season” is important in that God has inspired it to be written in this specific manner so that it is not only unspecified by Him when it is to occur, but it is also not specific in how long it will last. It could be a few months or a few years, but God is not going to reveal it until it is His time to do so, which could easily mean it may not be revealed until after it has actually taken place. This would be akin to God’s warning to His Church of an “Apostasy” that would take place before Christ’s coming which would serve as a final sign of that coming. Yet all the timing about when it would occur was not given until after it had actually happened. Then God revealed what He had prophesied about it. The Church knew it was coming at the end-time and yet it came when no one was looking for it to be fulfilled. It caught the Church totally off guard! Although God has given the knowledge about many events that would come to pass, there are those events that have not been given to us to be fully “known” until after God revealed their actual manifestation – the actual fulfillment.

Within this previously held belief that began in Worldwide, that Satan would be released toward the end of the Millennium, it was always difficult to grasp how Satan could amass such a large army from Gog and Magog. By this time, the manifested glory and beauty of God’s work would have been largely accomplished and seen (experienced) on earth over the previous nearly 1,000 years. It did not make complete sense that Satan could gather so many from that period of time who would so readily turn against God in order to bring about such destruction.

Now God is giving us to understand that this gathering of Satan from Gog and Magog does not happen until a specific period after the Millennium is over. But the question remains: “Where does this large army come from?” As we continue on with what God is revealing to us, this will become much clearer. However, another matter must first be addressed that leads to deeper understanding of God’s will, purpose, and righteous judgment involving those who have committed the unpardonable sin – whose spirit has become “set against” God.

Unpardonable Sin
A few years ago, God led His Church to see another error in belief from our past that carried throughout the eras in both Philadelphia and Laodicea. This concerned aspects of “God’s judgment” that would come upon all who have lived and died who have not chosen God’s way of life, but have committed the unpardonable sin. It was believed that all who had committed such sin would be resurrected back to a second physical life at the end of the hundred years that follows the Millennium. The purpose for this resurrection was believed to be for the sole purpose of passing a final judgment of eternal death upon all such people and that they summarily would then be cast into a lake of fire to be consumed. It was believed that in such a resurrection these people would be quickly judged, and this would be followed directly after that by the execution of this judgment, as they were put right back to death for a second and final time – never to be resurrected again.

God clearly revealed that there was not going to be a resurrection to judgment of all who committed the unpardonable sin at the end of the 100 years for the “sole purpose” of quickly casting them into a lake of fire to receive a second and final death. However, at the time God revealed this, He did not reveal the rest of the truth or the “complete truth” of the matter. So, as God’s apostle, I incorrectly saw this to mean that since “all” such individuals were not to be resurrected for that sole purpose of simply being put right back to death, thus ending their life forever (an eternal punishment), that “all” such people would simply never be resurrected again to physical life. It was incorrectly taken that “all” such individuals would simply die during the time period in which they had committed their unpardonable sin and never be resurrected to physical life again, thus, at that time receiving their final judgment of “eternal punishment.”

In the context of this series on True Fellowship, God is clarifying much of the process and outcome of those who become “set in agreement” and those who become “set against” Him. The understanding of this outcome involves God’s means or process in how He administers His righteous judgment.

God is leading His people to judge matters of “fellowship” with deeper understanding and clearer separation of how specific categories of individuals are to be dealt with according to their specific uniqueness. Not all disfellowshipped individuals fall into the same categories of how they are to be addressed and seen. God knows the mind of all people, just as He knows the spirit in us. However, as physical human beings, we do not know the spirit of the mind within a person. We do not have absolute knowledge of the heart – the true spirit of a person. Instead, we are to learn how to judge in a righteous manner by true testimony – by the true witness of things that are manifest before us. Human nature tends to judge by prejudice, personal opinion, and pride. But in God’s Church we are to learn righteous judgment as God teaches us how to do so.

Learning that there are different categories of people who commit the unpardonable sin (meaning their spirit is set against God) and how such matters are judged will help us better judge the differing matters associated with disfellowshipment and/or with those who have not been in our fellowship but are motivated to attack God’s Church through slander, evil speaking, finding “fault” (by their own distorted interpretation), and twisted accusation and judgment.

Judgment Verses Sentiment
Within “traditional Christianity,” there is a lot of sentiment and wishful thinking regarding judgment and whether people will be going to heaven or to a hell fire after death. Although it is highly regarded that extremely “bad” or evil people will go to hell, the sentiment is that most will be able to receive some form of “absolution,” or be set free from guilt, sin, or penalty, so that most can still end up in heaven. Of course this thinking then lends itself to minimizing consideration or concern for personal accountability for how one chooses to live life. So people then tend to live and do whatever they please.

This same kind of thinking has also led to a broader distortion of actual personal accountability by changing grace into a means for excusing selfish living and sin. The idea is, since God knows our weak nature, He then only requires that we simply come before Him or worship Him “just as we are” (without change).

However, within the Church, we know that there is judgment involved concerning “how” we choose to live our lives, as to whether we are in unity with God or not. Nevertheless, often times this aspect of traditional Christianity’s emotional response toward judgment can also be carried over and falsely blended-in (mixed) with truth. This then obviously makes what was true, now untrue, just sentiment and wishful thinking.

In the late 1970′s, after being in the Church for about 10 years, I was first struck by the manifestation of such false sentiments in regards to a young man who had just been baptized. He was well known and well liked within a congregation of over 500 people in one of the Houston, Texas, churches. One night, this young man, 19 years of age, was killed in a car wreck. Only two weeks earlier he had been baptized. The “sentiment” of the vast majority of people at that time was that they would see him next in the Kingdom of God – in Elohim. That was only sentiment and not sound or true judgment.

One cannot be impregnated with the begettal of God’s holy spirit and two week later be able to be born into Elohim when the first resurrection occurs. Transformation, trying with testing, and spiritual growth with maturity cannot produce a “creation” into Elohim in such a fast manner. It takes years! Sentiment has no place in judgment! This of course is using the definition of sentiment being, “judgment permeated or prompted by feeling.”

God’s Calling With Accountability
As we continue into this series, there is another type of sentiment that exists which needs to be addressed here. It is the judgmental feeling that most people from among mankind will eventually be saved and born into God’s family – Elohim. That would certainly be a wonderful thing if all were to choose God’s way, but that is not reality. This false sentiment also tends to foster the notion that during the Millennium, and especially during the final 100 years, that most people will be saved during these specific periods of time. The Millennium, and especially the final 100 years, can almost be seen as a type of utopia, and many have had that exact concept.

Certainly, the world under God’s righteous rule and government during the Millennium and Great White Throne compared to the first 6,000 years of “Babel” under Satan’s reign, will be like the difference between night and day. Although God will be offering mankind the ability to see an awesome contrast for life between His world and the one of the past 6,000 years, that does not mean that most of mankind will embrace or choose what God offers by His way of life. The reality is that there are people who choose to embrace the night.

Although mankind has the ability to embrace “good and evil,” the truth is that both are embraced from a motivation of selfishness. “Good” is not embraced because of agreement with what God has established and revealed as right or wrong, true or false, good or bad, but because of one’s own selfish interests. Man’s interests (ways) are not God’s interests (ways).

The choice between these two ways (God’s or man’s) comes head-to-head when one is given the time for their “calling” (Gk. – invitation) – when given the ability to “see” the truth. This has not only been true for people when they have been called in this present age of the first 6,000 years, but it will be true for all who live in the Millennium and final 100 years, as all will have the opportunity for a calling (invitation into God’s Kingdom) at that time.

However, just because a person is “called by God” and has the ability to see God’s ways does not mean they will choose it. The simple truth is there will be vast numbers of people from throughout the Millennium and Great White Throne who will not choose God’s interests and His ways, but will choose their own! Personal accountability for one’s own choices are real and need to be clearly seen as such.

Three Groups Set Against God
Of all those whose minds become “set against God,” there are three very separate and specific groups whose judgment is set. God has judged that all who become set against Him will receive a final execution of judgment of eternal death – a punishment wherein they will never be resurrected to life again. However, before that judgment can be “executed” (carried out, finalized), there is an additional phase of God’s righteous judgment that must be established first.

God has predetermined (purposed, chosen, willed) that such judgment cannot be “executed” until the true spirit of all such people set against Him is manifested for others to clearly see. As a magnification of His righteous judgment, God has established that there must be a clear manifestation of the outward actions of those people who choose to live against Him and His true ways. Their true spirit is to be clearly exposed – seen and witnessed by others that they are indeed against God.

There are three very distinct groups who become set against God, whose outward actions will give clear evidence (witness, testimony) of their true inner spirit, which must be exposed. In order to clearly establish and keep separate who these groups are, they will first be listed in the order that they will be explained.

1) Those never begotten of God, whose actions “against God” have not yet been manifested (exposed).

2) Those begotten of God, whose actions against God have not been “clearly” manifested (exposed).

3) Those begotten of God, whose actions against God have been manifested.

Resurrection To A “Little Season”
As it has already been mentioned, there is a group that has become “set against” God who have “never been begotten.” There are those over the millennia who have lived such evil that they have fully corrupted the mind (the spirit in man) that God gave to them. Their mind became set against anything that was truly good, although the vast majority of these people have never known any truth about God. Their minds are so corrupted and perverted toward life that they will not accept truth from God when they are shown it.

This group constitutes vast numbers of mankind throughout the millennia. The witness from clearly defined, outward evidence has not yet been established for these people, as they have not yet outwardly rejected God’s true way of life since they have never been shown it. All of these will be resurrected to a second physical life, but not during the final 100-year resurrection. Instead, these will be resurrected in order to manifest a clear witness that they reject God even after they are shown God’s great work and His ways.

This resurrection is not a resurrection to “save the spirit in the day of the Lord Jesus,” as their mind (the spirit essence in them) has already been fully corrupted through their evil choices in life. This resurrection is to establish a true witness of their own evil choice for how they want to live life. This resurrection is to establish a true witness of their choice in rejecting God, although they have already done so in the spirit in their mind, since they have already chosen “evil.” When they are resurrected, they will see what God established with mankind and the awesome changes He has brought upon the earth over the previous 1,100 years. At this time, they will also see the vastness of those born into Elohim.

God knows the spirit of this vast army of people which is fully “set against” Him and that they will never repent no matter what awesome glory of His that they see. All this will work to manifest their true spirit once Satan has been released and has influence “with them” one last time. When all is said and done, because of their “set mind,” they will choose the influence and ways of Satan over the righteous and merciful influence of God’s grace that has always been before all mankind (by His very creation and His giving of life itself).

A great clarification of truth that God is now revealing is that the period of time for this resurrection to physical life once again and of their own witness of God’s great work and true ways of life, will coincide with Satan’s final actions of gathering together Gog and Magog in an effort to destroy God’s “holy city” – Jerusalem. The length of time for this final witness, judgment, and manifestation of their true spirit is unspecified as God states that Satan is released for “a little season.”

This resurrection is not one that can occur during the Millennium, as we have already addressed this. It cannot be before or during the great resurrection of the final 100 years for salvation, as there will still be those during that time who will not choose God’s way, even after being given a “second life” to live. Those who become fully “set against” God during the final 100 years for salvation will live on into this very last time (this “little season”) in order to more fully manifest their true spirit and receive the execution of their judgment to eternal death.

Let’s look at what is written about this that will occur during this “little season.”

“When the thousand years are expired (it is not immediate, as this strictly makes it clear that it is for a time after the Millennium), Satan shall be released out of his prison. He shall go out to deceive the nations (to deceive them to engage in his final act), which are in Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth (worldwide) and encompassed about the camp of the saints, and the beloved city (the resurrected saints and the beloved city are one in the same), and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them” (Rev. 20:7-9).

This “little season” is the time of Satan’s and the demons’ release from their imprisonment over the previous 1,100 years. Directly after the final 100 years of salvation that is offered to mankind, those whose “spirit in man” is set against God but has not yet been made fully manifest (seen, witnessed, exposed) that they are actually against God, will be resurrected at this same time. These will comprise the great army that Satan gathers together to fight against God’s purpose one last time. Their choice manifests their true spirit that they will not repent and that they do not want God’s ways.

Begotten of God
Within the division of the three separate groups whose minds are set against God, the last two consist of those who have been begotten of God’s spirit, but at some point choose to turn against Him and His ways. They will never repent of their pride or of their choices.

The difference between these two groups that were begotten of God’s spirit is that one has clearly manifested that they are against God and His ways, which clearly reveals they are against God because of their outward display against His Church and His truth. The other group has not made such a “clear” display of their true spirit that is set against God.

Those who have become spiritually weak and have fallen asleep are not included with these two groups who have been begotten and then later turn against God, becoming set against God. It has already been covered how such people who are not yet “set in spirit” and then die in that state, will be resurrected again to a second physical life in the final 100 years in order to be brought to repentance and potential salvation, and at that time to “save the spirit in the day of the Lord Jesus.”

Group #2 that was listed earlier consists of those who become begotten and then later turn against God’s true way of life and whose minds become set against Him, but their outward actions do not adequately establish (manifest) a “clear witness” against them that they have made such a choice. Some of these are those who strive to hide their sins and do not repent, although they may even say that they have repented, then in time they become set against God because of their refusal to repent and fight against their human nature. Others simply leave relatively quiet from the fellowship of the Church to live as they choose, never to be heard from again. Yet others are those who conform to an outward appearance of being of the same mind, and may continue due to family (or other personal selfish reasons), but inside they have fully rejected God and have become set against Him. Still there are others who make up this group, who do not manifest their true spirit outwardly in order for clear judgment to be made that they are against God.

God knows the mind of all such people who are “set against” Him and who will not repent, but for His full righteous judgment to become established, these will all have to be resurrected to a second physical life in order for their true spirit to be exposed (made manifest) that they are indeed against God. They will be resurrected during the “little season” that follows the final 100 years for salvation.

It needs to be made clear that there will be those who fit into this category who will live on into the Millennium, and also those who will be born into it (making the same choices not to repent), who will be resurrected to a second physical life during this “little season.” The purpose will be the same – to establish a clear and true witness of their true spirit – one that became “set against” God. Even during such an awesome period of time within the Millennium for mankind to be able to live, there will be people who do not want God’s ways and will become set against Him. Most of these will also simply conform in appearance while their true spirit actually becomes set against God, as they refuse to repent of their own opinions, ideas, and ways that oppose God’s truth.

Unrevealed Judgment
The final group (#3) consists also of those begotten who have turned away from God and their minds have become set against Him. Yet, the actions of this group are so strongly and perversely manifested through outward acts of hatred, evil, pride, and destructive influence and works exhibited against God’s Church that the “witness” of their true spirit has already been fully established. It is clearly manifested that they are against God.

There is no need for those in this group to be resurrected to a second physical life because their evil choices and actions have already been outwardly manifested. Because of this witness, righteous judgment has already been established that they are against God. This however, does not mean that some or all from this group will not be resurrected at some specific time.

The most notable of individuals in this category is the man of sin, the son of perdition, who instigated the Apostasy. Besides this notable person in this end-time, there are many of this group who have been part of God’s Church over the past 1,900-plus years.

As I have been writing this particular post, it has been difficult dealing with this specific group and what I am to write about them, but God has been leading me in a clear direction. God has shown that He wants the people of this group to be accounted separately from the other group of those begotten who also turned against Him. The reason for making such a distinction is that we are to first recognize there is a difference as far as the matter of “judgment” is concerned.

Next, we are to have a valuable lesson reinforced in our thinking – that all judgment must be based on what God gives us. There is a difference within this group for how they are to be judged. There remains more to be revealed by God about this group, and this is not His time to do so. Speculation serves no value, and additionally, that would be unwise.

Clarification
Since this series has been a type of progressive revelation, one section was not fully clarified at the time it was written. It will now be rewritten with further clarification and understanding. This entire series will be made into an article for the “Church Publication” page of the website. The rewrite will be a section in Post #8 that is under the heading “God’s Revelation Through Paul.” It is being posted here in the rest of this section entitled “Clarification.”

[The rewrite follows to the end of this post]

God is revealing two important matters in the latter part of this verse (referring to the verse that speaks of “the spirit that might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus”). Many who have been disfellowshipped over the past 1,900 years plus will be resurrected in the final 100 years of the Great White Throne period. God’s Church has known this truth for several years now, but those scattered have not.

These formerly disfellowshipped individuals (from over the past 1,900 years) will have an opportunity to repent at this time (the last hundred years), during a time they can be more readily saved. They were not repentant when they had the ability and opportunity to do so when they received their calling in the age of Satan’s reign on the earth. God mercifully disfellowshipped them because their spirit would have more rapidly become “set against” Him if it continued to “continually react (wrong) spiritually” against His holy spirit.

During this final hundred years, these (the ones disfellowshipped from God’s Church) who are resurrected will not have to “live by faith” of God’s coming Kingdom (as they did before becoming disfellowshipped), but they will be able to literally see and witness first hand what it (the Kingdom of God) already has produced after being on earth for 1,000 years. These individuals will not need to “live by faith” concerning the great resurrection of most of mankind who have died over the millennia, for they will experience it themselves. They will know that they have been dead and now resurrected to physical life a second time.

In addition, these individuals will not only be able to witness a world filled with great peace and prosperity, but they will also experience the absence of Satan and of the demons’ influence upon their lives. At this time, God will grant them merciful access to Himself once again, as He revives (awakens) the spirit-begotten essence with the spirit of man that is in them. Although such individuals could not be saved during the time of Satan’s reign over mankind (after they had first been called and begotten), they now have a vastly greater potential to do so.

However, not all who have ever been disfellowshipped through time will be resurrected to a full second physical life for the purpose of “saving the spirit.” There are those who will not be resurrected for that purpose and will not be allowed to live out 100 years as others who are given a “second physical life.” God know the mind – the true spirit of every person! Some have already “permanently chosen” that they do not want God’s ways. Even if offered repentance during the Great White Throne in the final hundred years, they would not repent. God knows who such people are, as their spirit is “set against” Him. He knows those who have already committed the unpardonable sin – those who will never repent.

There are even vast numbers of people who have lived over the past 6,000 years who will be resurrected but will not be offered the begettal of His spirit, as God knows the minds that are fully “set against” Him and who will not respond in true repentance even if offered His spirit to transform them. Of those who have lived during the past 6,000 years, whether begotten or not, there are minds that have become fully “set against” God and will never repent by their own free will. Just as there were those in the angelic realm who rejected God’s ways, so have there been many among mankind who have rejected God and will not change, regardless of the magnitude of grace God might grant them.

(Pt. 12 will follow.)

Deuteronomy 18:20-22

Haverty has made it official, here’s a lightly redacted copy of his resignation email:

Johnny,

The purpose of this email is to inform you that I am no longer associated with cog-pkg. Please remove my name from the membership and ministry.

My reason for leaving is all contained in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. I no longer accept or support the Weinland’s claims of being God’s appointed prophets and/or witnesses.

The only administrative item to do is for you to make decisions about the scheduled meeting dates (3/22, 4/13, 4/15). Please contact Diane and let me know if I need to cancel any of the above dates.

Please be advised that you or Doris are the only ones I will accept a phone call from for the purpose of transferring responsibilities only.

Sincerely,

Jeffery N____ [now ex-elder from Florida]

I believe those in the know will understand who this is from first names and location alone.

For those PKG members who do not read the Bible, leaving it to Ron to read it and explain it to them, here’s what it says in Deuteronomy 18:20-22:

20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?

22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Notice what the verse says.  If you prophesy in the name of the Lord and it doesn’t happen, THEN you have spoken presumptuously.  Ron clearly has done this, and his batting average for prophecy is .000.   Ron twists this verse around, claiming that he didn’t speak presumptuously and therefore is not a false prophet.  Flavor Aid is powerful stuff!!!

Christ’s Return – Timing

Seems Ronnie is not posting part 11 to his Groundhog Day series of blog posts this week.  Maybe his commissary budget is too low to be able to afford #2 pencils.

As the Present Truth (TM) continually changes, the editorial material on Ronnie’s websites falls behind.  Recently, there was an update to the Topics section on the FAQ.  The Topic “Christ’s Return – Timing” had a significant amount of text added.

Here is the original text:

In 2008, God revealed that Jesus Christ would return on an annual holy day of Pentecost. God also revealed in that same year that the 1335 days of Daniel, concerning the final sealing of the 144,000, was beginning its countdown on the annual holy day of Trumpets that year – 2008. Carrying the 1335 days forward from Trumpets of 2008 brings you to Pentecost of 2012. At the mathematical probability of such a possible occurrence, coupled with other overlapping periods of time fitting into the same time frame, we believed that Christ would return on that day of Pentecost in 2012. (For more information on this see the 50th Truth in the “57 Truths” article on the Publication page of this website.)

As the Church had the attitude and spirit to be a good “watchman” as described in Ezekiel and because of great eagerness in anticipation of Christ’s return, the Church told others of this impending date in the hope that they would listen and prepare themselves for the horrific times that precede his coming. Our desire was that not only should we physically and spiritually be prepared for worldwide catastrophic events, but we deeply desired that others would take warning and themselves prepare for such events. Before Christ returns, the physical manifestation of the Seven Trumpets of Revelation will occur, which includes massive worldwide destruction and WW III. God’s Church “lived” this belief in absolute faith in a genuine manner of “spirit and truth.”

By Pentecost of 2012, we knew that Christ was not yet returning and that we had entered the prophetic “Day of the Lord.” God reveals in scripture that this prophetic day is an actual year in length. Once again, knowing that Christ would return on a Pentecost and that this prophetic day was a year in length, we believed that Christ would then return on Pentecost of 2013. What we did not know then was that there are two specific periods of time that fulfill the “Day of the Lord,” as each has a separate purpose to be accomplished, yet involve God’s righteous judgment, vengeance, and recompense. The first prophetic “Day of the Lord” was about God’s Church and His power to create Zion – His family Elohim – through His Church. This also served as an avenging of His Church before Satan, as Satan also had now been judged. By Pentecost of 2012, God had sealed all 144,000 who will return with Jesus Christ in God’s government over all mankind, and Satan will be removed at that time. (For more understanding of that period of time from Trumpets of 2008 to Pentecost of 2013 and all that God has been doing through His Church, see the article on the Publications page entitled, “An Extraordinary 4 1/2 Years.”)

Obviously, the world never believed our warnings or that Jesus Christ was coming, let alone on a specific date of Pentecost of 2012 or 2013. Neither did the Church that was scattered believe it. The fact that it did not happen on either day has only verified their belief, as they view it, that Ronald Weinland is not a prophet and that the Church of God – PKG is not God’s Church. However, nothing could be farther from the truth.

The edit struck out the text “See Timeline Question Answered” and added all of the following:

God had great purpose in His Church believing and proclaiming those dates for Christ’s return. It served to facilitate the final judging (trying and testing) of those who should yet be sealed to fulfill the complete count of the 144,000 firstfruits of God’s Kingdom.

This also served as a witness and final judgment upon the world for their response to hearing such a message as the one contained in the book 2008 – God’s Final Witness. The message of that book was about devastating end-time events, WW III, and God’s intervention to end it all by sending His Son to take control over all government on earth and to establish His one and only Church, and thereby, end all other false religions on earth. The response of the world was the same as the previous 6,000 years. Man rejects God’s word and His servants whom He has sent to proclaim His word.

As far as Christ not returning on those dates of Pentecost of 2012 and 2013, the result would have been the same even if He had returned. People will not believe God’s word until they “physically see” massive devastation (and then it is too late to prepare). They will not listen to sound and plain truth that God proclaims to them. The reality is that this period of time was about God’s final witness and His judgment upon mankind for refusal to hear Him.

The end-time events will still come to pass. Jesus Christ is still coming to remove Satan’s rule on earth and to establish God’s government over all mankind. Refusal to believe these prophetic truths from God does not prevent them from happening, but is only a matter of “time.” It is simply that, as always, man believes what he wants to believe, and he has always chosen not to believe God.

It was mentioned earlier that there are two prophetic periods of the “Day of the Lord.” One was between Pentecost of 2012 and Pentecost 2013. It was about God’s Church and God’s power to create Zion – the Family of God – Elohim. The first phase of that family has now been established and sealed by God. His government has now been made ready to be given immortal life in Elohim and to reign with Jesus Christ. These firstfruits of God’s Family will come with Christ when he returns on an annual holy day of Pentecost. God has not revealed the specific year, but He will at the time He allows the manifestation of the Second Trumpet. Christ will then return on the Pentecost that follows this event.

Christ’s return is near – that is God’s promise, as all that now remains before his coming is the fulfillment of the second prophetic “Day of the Lord,” which is the time when the physical manifestation of the destruction from the Seven Trumpets of Revelation are revealed. The events of this final “Day of the Lord” are a matter of the judgment of God upon mankind for not listening to Him and heeding His warnings.

I would summarize all of this as: It doesn’t matter that the prophecy was false because no one was listening anyway.  And it’s all going to happen eventually anyway.  So there!!!

Here’s what the deleted section “Timeline Questions Answered” used to say:

God has revealed that there is a separation between the opening of the Seventh Seal and the start of the Great Tribulation. God reveals the truth progressively and will continue to do so through His end-time prophets: “Surely the Lord GOD does nothing, unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets” (Amos 3:7).

1335 Days: The sealing of the 144,000 that will make up the Government of God at Christ’s return in 2013 (see topic: “Christ’s Return – Timing”) took place on September 30th, 2008, and 45 days later we arrived at 1290 days.

1290 Days: The Seventh Seal was opened on the 14th of November, 2008, which signified an end to the abomination of desolation that has been working in God’s Church. This marks the beginning of an awakening for spiritual Israel – the final remnant of the Church of God that was scattered, and will continue right up until the return of Jesus Christ. Thirty days later we arrived at 1260 days.

1260 Days: The blowing of the First Trumpet occurred on the 14th of December, 2008. That day was the beginning of a 3 1/2 year countdown that would lead into the final “Day of the Lord” (a final literal year) where world conditions will escalate into WW III and end at the return of Jesus Christ on Pentecost of 2013. From the start of this final 1260 day countdown, the process began that will lead to the complete collapse of the USA and the other Israelite countries. The Second, Third, and Fourth Trumpet will occur in God’s timing during the “Day of the Lord” (see the topic entitled “Christ’s Return – Timing”), and the combination of these first four trumpets will bring about that complete collapse. God will reveal more about these events, in His time, to His two end-time prophets (and two end-time witnesses) whose job began at the start of this final countdown to Christ’s return.

The only way a person can understand this timeline is by revelation given by God. The Church of God knows the date of Jesus Christ’s return because of the timing of the opening of the seals and the revealed truths contained in the annual Holy Days.