Martin has made an excellent point. As an atheist I clearly don’t believe any of the Bible is true in any manner. But Christians and I agree on MANY Biblical principles. Jesus really was a moral exemplar in deed, and his story is consistent with Messianic principles. Following Jesus’ actual path is wise and many atheists including myself look to Jesus the Moral Teacher often as a guide and standard for our actions. And since the BIble can be interpreted so many ways, the easiest and clearest proof of Ronald Weinland’s claims being false is using Ron’s OWN words and behaviour as a measuring stick.

1. Godly men don’t get taken to court for tax fraud. RW intentionally didn’t report his Swiss bank account and the interest he made on it for YEARS.
2. RW has spoken prophecies that failed.
3. RW has uttered death curses on us. That is not Godly.
4. RW has spoken exact prophecies about Christ which the Bible say cannot and will not be known. This is false prophecy.
5. Twice Ron has promised to admit he is a false prophet, and twice he is refused to do so. Vanity is a sin.

We are not trying to argue Scripture and interpretation. We are trying to hold RW to his word, and he has failed to do what he has said he would do. His prophecies have COMPLETELY failed to happen, and the Bible says this is proof of false prophecy. Yet he refuses to acknowledge this. Lies are not truth, no matter how many ways you try to make them true. RW IS A FALSE PROPHET. Not because we hate him or God or anything.

RW is a false prophet…because that fact is TRUE…

In the end, the Bible is so symbolic that it’s subject to many interpretations. And those there are. What’s the point of debating them, when whether or not Ron is a false prophet does not require Bible interpretation?

Also, it does not matter, in my opinion, if you believe the Bible is the Word of God or not.

For example, if I brought up the book “Dune” by Frank Herbert, and said that Paul was a gambler early in life, this is easily dis-proven from the book, even though the book is a work of fiction.

Ronald Weinland IS fulfilling prophecy, just not the one anybody would wish to fulfill…that of being one of the “many false prophets…deceiving many)

Two questions
1) Why is your stance on the scriptures in Zech., that identify the Two as *two men*? (sons of oil)
2) Why do you accept RW’s teaching, that Christ did NOT pre-exist as a God being? In the light of many, many clear scriptures?
This alone, would disqualify RW from any authority on bible doctrine whatsoever.

And MANY MANY MANY MORE to COME!!!!!

Hugs!
Chacha

take it at your own pace. as you go forward, you will see more and more of Ron’s babble unravel. It is very hard to let go of what you based your LIFE on! I know what you are going through. In the beginning I wondered (but not as often any more) if I made the right decision.

Take care. We are all thinking of you.
PEACE!
Chacha

And like many other coward’s Ron is also a bully. Bullying church members allows him to feel better about himself being a coward. Bullying gives him a sense or power which helps to overcome his cowardice but he knows very well the buck stops at the hotel conference room doorstep.

Besides the PKG membership there is nobody else in the entire world Ron can bully. Once in prison he’d go from bully to bullied and them some overnight. I doubt very much Ron would chance this happening unless of course he truly believes the USA will no longer have a functioning government come May 27th.