False Prophet Ronald Weinland

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from Portland today, continuing on the theme rolled out in last week’s sermon, that of new ordinations including women.

During the sermon, Ron indicated that this latest rubbish will be organized as new numbered truths:

• #51: Ron is the final Elijah-to-come, John the Baptist and Herbie were only “types”.
• #52: Removal of the curse of Eve from women, restoring them to the rightful place in the family
• #53: The ordination of women is allowed

According to Ron, credit for the new truths is given to the Silent Witness who pointed out certain things.  Perhaps Laura will be promoted to Apostle as a result.  While he hasn’t posted these new “truths” on his website, he has done a little editing on two of the first fifty “truths” which I have marked to indicate the added words and deleted words.

Edits to Truth #30

Matthew 24 is first and foremost about the Church at the end-time. It is not about physical events in the end time, although these are a type of some of the events that will occur. As Jesus Christ gave prophecy concerning events that would lead to His coming as the Messiah, he first spoke of events that would occur in the Church (vs. 4-21). These events have been believed to be about physical events that would happen on earth, but they are about the Church.

God has now shown that there is a duality concerning both the Church and the world that applies to verses 21 and 22. All these prophesied events in Mat. 24 lead up to the time of the very coming of the Messiah to this earth (vs. 29-31).

Edits to Truth #39

Herbert W. Armstrong was a “type” of the prophesied “Elijah to come,” as he who restored all truth essential to salvation to the Church of God during the Philadelphia Era.

Ron has yet to edit his FAQ page which indicates that he is a God-denier just like Rod Meredith for not recognizing Herbert Armstrong as the prophesied Elijah-to-come.

Ron warned that people will lose friends after ordination.  Not because the ordained one changed but because friends become jealous as happened to him.  Riiiiggghhht.  I’m totally sure that Ron did not change even an iota when ordained as a local elder in Houston back in April of 1981.

Ron announced that 57 members had been ordained over the past couple of weeks (or would be shortly) including 31 women.  My count of the names that Ron announced was 58 (including the 3 evangelists’ wives announced last weekend) and 59 if you count Willem Henderson who was promoted to senior elder.  But Ron is the one who has the minor in math so my count must be incorrect.  Far be it from me to twist and distort.

Ron only gave first names, because of all the crackpots, kooks, or absolute liars out there who like to twist and distort.  If you are one of those, then stop reading since I have last names for most of the new elders.  And if you know who any of these crackpot, looks, and absolute liars are who like to twist and distort about PKG members, please leave a comment identifying them.  Names in bold are full elders, others are associate elders:

• Florida: Newt Carter and Diane
• Georgia: Larry Spivey (who edits Ron’s books),  Paul and Doris Giles, April Young (mother of Paul), and Alan Giles (son of Paul)
• Pacific Northwest: Bill and Diana Carr, and Jim Sullivan.  Also Tina Jamieson, wife of senior elder Jim Jamieson
• Tennessee: Gerald
• Detroit: Stan Watson, Helen Terlecki, and Parker Wrozek (Terry’s 23-year-old son).  Helen and Parker have been associated with Ron since 1995.
• Mississippi: Lori Williams, who is Laura’s friend
• Los Angeles: Dottie Smith
• Sacramento, California area: Russ
• Lubbock, TX: Fredda Maeker
• Louisville area: Linda (Cookie) Fields (wife of elder Curtis Fields), Beverly VanNorman, and Tony Blair
• Illinois: Lynnette
• Buffalo NY area: John, Richard & Marie, Bonnie, Bob and Donna Madison
• Maine: Vicki (Vicki Snowdeal passed away from cancer last spring.  But I guess there could be another Vicki from Maine in COG-PKG).
• Dallas: Glen
• Missouri: Dee Wobbe
• Utah: Debra Tiernan
• Belgium: Mieke Van Lerberghe (wife of elder Gijs)
• Netherlands: Edwin Van Horne
• Germany: Jeremy Weinland (Ron’s 24-year-old son)
• Alberta: Eric and Kalee Wiesman
• Manitoba: George Black
• Australia: Peter Herrmann, Derek Mendygral, and Zoran Illitch (translated Ron’s books to Italian)
• New Zealand: Rex Blake
• UK: Una Milne (wife of senior elder William)
• Cincinnati region: Jenny, Patty Dalrymple (wife of senior elder Stephen), Tim Brown, Joey Shockey, April Combs, Sandy Bays, Willy and Lois Doemeland, Tom and Barb Volle

To round things out, Weinland’s daughter and church bookkeeper Audra L. Little is to be ordained as senior elder.   Perhaps this status will help her if she goes from being a potential IRS criminal investigation target to an actual one.  The IRS performs extra reviews on a case against someone with a religious title prior to recommending prosecution to the Department of Justice.

If anyone has any corrections or additions to this list, any misspellings, please leave a comment or email me.  I don’t want to be accused of twisting and distorting.

My verse of the day is Romans 12:14 which reads:

Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

Ron forgot about that one 54 weeks ago when he issued his death curse against me to die speedily from the inside.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland has generously provided a PDF transcript of his December 19th “Elijah” sermon.  A few quotes from that sermon transcript show him increasingly emphatic about being the Elijah-to-come:

[Page 14] And he talked about a type of duality and I don’t know any other way to say it today here, but just to tell you… I also am an ‘Elijah to come’.
[Page 16] Well, I’m telling you today: I am the ‘Elijah to come’ – see?
[Page 18]: I am the final fulfillment of the ‘Elijah to come’. [Emphasis from original transcript]

Also, in his blog posting of last week he demoted Herbert Armstrong to solidify his own credentials as the Elijah-to-come:

Herbert W. Armstrong fulfilled a “type” of the Elijah to come as prophesied in the Old Testament and as prophesied by Jesus Christ.   …… The truth is that neither John the Baptist nor Herbert W. Armstrong fulfilled the complete prophecies concerning the “Elijah to come,” but they fulfilled a “type” of that prophetic fulfillment.

The Church of God – PKG Church Website has some interesting things to say on the matter.  On the COG-PKG FAQ page.

The Living Church of God, under the leadership of Roderick Meredith, is also asleep spiritually. Roderick C. Meredith is guilty in his failure to acknowledge Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong as the prophesied Elijah to come, who would restore all things to God’s true Church. In a sermon series where Roderick Meredith’s own words are quoted from taped recordings, Ronald Weinland has exposed the leadership of the Living Church of God for refusing God’s true witness of what God accomplished through His end-time apostle (See “Sermon Archives” for 2001, beginning in a four part series on Oct. 27, 2001). In doing this, Roderick Meredith has denied God Himself.

On the COG-PKG Topics Page

The Church of God-PKG is a continuation of the Church that God and Jesus Christ started on the day of Pentecost in 31 AD. The Church has operated under different organizational names which all carried the name “Church of God.” Mr. Armstrong was the Elijah to come as stated in Malachi 4:5 and operated under the organizational name of the “Worldwide Church of God.” The Church of God-PKG continues in the truth that was restored through Herbert W Armstrong.

And on the COG-PKG 50 Truths page

Herbert W. Armstrong was the prophesied “Elijah to come” who restored all truth essential to salvation to the Church of God during the Philadelphia Era. Very few in the Church that was scattered teach this today. Mr. Armstrong described himself as a voice crying out in the wilderness and stated in Mystery of the Ages that he had fulfilled the prophecies of the Elijah to Come.

This last was the 39th “truth”.  I wonder how long it will be before God-denier Ronald Weinland gets around to having Jeremy edit the website to account for the demotion of spiritual idol Herbert Armstrong to only a “type”.  Will it be before or after I die speedily from the curse Weinland issued 53 weeks ago?

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from a hot and cold meeting room in the Detroit area today.  Members who are part of the sealing are still suffering medical woes, even as times reset.  Elder Don Edwards is facing bypass surgery, and long-time member Neva Williams who is related to quite a number of other PKG members is possibly facing spinal surgery.  Some of the sealed will die before Christ doesn’t return on Pentecost of 2012, all of them will die with Christ still having failed to make his UFO-like appearance in the skies over Jerusalem.

Next week Ron will be having a meeting with his evangelists and senior elders in Las Vegas.  Perhaps Ron will take a break from gambling on his prophecies by gambling on the blackjack tables during the breaks between giving deputy sheriff lessons to his flunkies. Unconfirmed reports are that he enjoys this.  Ron, unless your card-counting skills are better than your day-counting skills, better not try it.

Today’s was the first of what Ron threatens to be a long sermon series titled “Our Journey of Faith”.  Ron promised a few carrots along the way.  Then Ron proceeded to speak about various preparations that have been made which included Swiss bank accounts for a time, storing gold and silver, and setting aside food and medical supplies. The aspect of faith is that these are not “just in case” preparation, but with a firm expectation that they’ll soon be necessary.

The constant lack of fulfilled prophecies has been trying on some of the new members, a few of whom have left.  On the other hand, those in “the scattering” who are “sealed” are well used to this sort of thing, with the end always being 5 to 10 years off and each new car expected to be the last one.  Back in 1977, Ron’s father-in-law reacted to the news that Audra on the way, not with joy at becoming a grandparent but rather, with concern about bringing a child into the world in the end time.

Ron must have recently acquired the E-Sword program.  E-Sword is a nifty set of software and databases which include various translations of the bible, as well as commentaries and concordances.  It include concordances which cross-reference to the original Hebrew and Greek words.  During his Last Great Day sermon, he proof-texted his revision of “time” using Hebrew words.  Today he went Greek on a word γίνομαι meaning (depending on the context) “come to pass”.  Those wanting to follow along in future sermons as the false prophet cherry picks interpretations may want to download the free software which includes the King James Version with Strong’s Numbers and Stong’s Dictionary, and add on the King James Concordance available as a downloadable add-on.

According to Ron, the earliest the 5th Trumpet will blow is June 27 next year (“time” plus one day) and the latest is August 21, 2011 (“times” and a half plus one day).  The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th trumpets could all blow on one day.  However, he did not clarify the timeframe that my quick death from the inside will happen according to the curse he declared against me 44 weeks ago.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland graduated in 1975 from unaccredited Ambassador College with a major in theology and a minor in math. I expect that his math courses were taken at the accredited institutions he attended prior to Ambassador. Ron puts his math minor to use in justifying his false prophecies.

This post discusses his new version of his 50th untruth, but first bear with me through a short math lesson. Any natural number can be computed as a product or multiplication of two or more natural numbers.  A special case are prime numbers: a prime number is a product only of 1 and itself.  The first few primes are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, and 13.  Non-prime numbers can be expressed as a product of two or more prime numbers.

The number 1260 can be computed as a product of primes: 2 x 2 x 3 x 3 x 5 x 7.  The number 280 is a product of primes: 2 x 2 x 2 x 5 x 7.  Ron’s significant number 280 (sign of judgment and now mercy) has one more “2″ as a factor and therefore does not divide evenly into 1260.  The result of the division of “time” into 1260 is 4.5 — or time, time, times, and half-a-time.  Ron throws away the first time as “judgment mercy” and is left with (ta-da) time, times, and half-a-time.

Ron has no biblical basis for his claim that a “time” is 280 days instead of 360 days, despite the convoluted explanation he gave last Saturday.  All he has is his disproven claim to be a prophet eligible to reveal new “truth”.  Daniel 12:7 mentions “time, times, and half-a-time” described by a man clothed in linen.  Which can’t be Ron, since he after all he is wearing sackcloth, right?

Daniel 12 follows up in verse 12 with “Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.” right after verse 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.”  So in Daniel, the 1335th day occurs after the 1260th day, but in Weinlandism the 1335th day occurs before the 1260th day since Weinland’s count is backwords.

All rather confusing.  But PKG members have it easy, all they have to do is to remember the latest “truth” or re-explanation of the “truth” as given by their spiritual idol, the false prophet Ronald Weinland.

Here are the dates associated with Weinland’s second version of the second timeline:

• December 14, 2008: The first trumpet blew (silently).  Ron and Laura “began their jobs” while in Jerusalem after a jaunt to Cairo to tour the pyramids.
• September 19, 2009: Feast of Trumpets: The end of the zeroeth “time” or 280 days into the not-so-Great Tribulation.  With 280 days being a sign of judgment, and Ron being too sick to speak that day.
• February 6, 2010: Half-a-time or 140 days after Trumpets, 2009.  The PKG members are to fast, but only for one day.  Ron promises another barn-burner borer of a sermon this day.
• June 26, 2011: Time.  Earliest that the European beast power will become active.
• November 13, 2011: Time and half-a-time
• April 2, 2011: Times
• August 20, 2011: Times and half-a-time.  Latest that the European beast power becomes active.
• January 7, 2012: Time and Times.  The 200-million-man Asiatic horde army might not become active until this time.  Yet somehow they will be able to assemble, arm, and mobilize this army of unprecedented size in less than 140 days and have it in place in the valley of Megiddo for the last few days of the Great Tribulation
• May 22, 2012 at sunrise in Jerusalem: Ron and Laura are killed in the streets of Jerusalem
• May 26, 2012: End of Time, Times, and Half-a-Time: Day before Pentecost.  Jesus Christ to return at sundown which ends this day and begins Pentecost.
• May 27, 2012: Ron and Laura having been resurrected from the streets of Jerusalem begin their new jobs as rulers in God’s Kingdom.

Here’s yet another timeline from Weinland, as posted on his blog.  Ron’s upcoming trips are:

Oct. 24 Detroit, MI
Oct. 31 Las Vegas, NV
Nov. 7 Cincinnati, OH (with special guests, Wayne & Chris Matthews)
Nov. 14 Bowling Green, KY
Nov. 21 The NETHERLANDS
Nov. 29 London, UNITED KINGDOM
Dec. 5 Erie, PA
Dec. 12 Detroit, MI
Dec. 19 Georgia
Dec. 26 Orlando, FL
Jan. 2 Portland, OR
Jan. 9 Spokane, WA
Jan. 16 Los Angeles, CA
Jan. 23 Dallas, TX
Jan. 30 Minneapolis, MN
Feb. 2 Cincinnati, OH
Feb. 9 Detroit, MI

Careful observers will note that certain of these dates are not Saturdays: Nov. 29 is a Sunday, and Feb. 2 and Feb 9 are both Tuesdays. Are these high days? No. Is Ron changing sabbath observance to other days of the week? I doubt it. Rather, I expect it’s just another exhibit of of False Prophet Math and Calendar Reading skills. Note: the February dates were corrected on Oct 22, but the Nov 29 date remains unchanged.

Since Ron expects to be able to travel well into February, the Great Tribulation is delayed for at least half-a-time even in his shortened timeline.  If the demise of the US is to occur by June and Ron will be able to travel into Feb., then the first 5 trumpets will have to blow quickly beginning in mid-February.  Wait a minute — the demise of the US was to be no later than last June, according to the last page of “2008 — God’s Final Witness”.  Just as my death from the inside was supposed to be quick, according to the death curse Ron called on me 43 weeks ago.

I’ve posted several times about James Malm.  James put out a prophetic timeline involving the 1335 day interval between Trumpets of 2008 and Pentecost of 2012 well before Ron did.  But unlike Ron, he quickly within a day or so of Trumpets acknowledged that it wasn’t the one.  Then three months ago I posted about James Malm’s latest prophetic speculation which has today, Oct 19, as a significant day.  I emailed James this weekend to ask: (more…)