False Prophet Ronald Weinland

False Prophet Ronald Weinland cut it short in Dallas yesterday.  The entire dis-services was just under one hour instead of the normal two hours, including the announcements and opening and closing prayers by his US evangelists Terry and Johnny.  People traveled from far and wide to hear his abbreviated sermon From outside of Texas: Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Ohio, Washington, Kentucky, Germany, and Moldova (since I have ancestors who lived there, I already knew it was a small state on the Black Sea near Odessa, Ukraine).  Ron blathered on and on with his interpretation of Daniel’s 70 years in ancient Babylonian history.  Perhaps Ron quit early being anxious to get the party started at a local member’s open house later in the afternoon.  Or maybe Laura said that she wanted to spend extra time with her childhood friend Lori Williams (now living in Mississippi) while she still has the opportunity, as being the Silent Witness is scheduled to be killed in 4 months on May 23rd at the hands of the beast power.

Ron reminded people of the significant date of January 7, 1972.  That was the end of Herbert Armstrong’s second 19-year time cycle which must be in the Bible somewhere as it’s so significant.  (A solar calendar such as the Gregorian calendar we use and a lunar calendar such as the Jewish calendar will approximately synchronize to within hours every 19 years .)  One of Weinland’s signs and lying wonders is that it is exactly 40 years from Herbie’s January 7 to his own January 7 of this year, the end of his 6th shortened half-a-280-day-time.

Not so fast Ronnie.  You don’t get to use the Gregorian calendar as a sign.  Turns out that Jan 7, 1972 was Tevet 20 on the Jewish calendar.  Jan 7 of this year was NOT Tevet 20.  Tevet 20 this year was last Sunday.  What significant event happened on these dates?  On Tevet 20, 5732 (January 7, 1972), Herbert W (doesn’t stand for anything) Armstrong was exposed as a liar.  Exactly 40 years later on Tevet 20, 5772 (last Sunday), Ronald Eugene Weinland was judged as a liar on this blog as to his “truth” that Joseph Tkach died 40 weeks to the very hour after delivering his sermon in Atlanta on 12/17/94.

In his blog posting of November 26 responding to the indictment, Ron stated “I have been waiting to find out the full details of the indictment and it has been somewhat unsettling as it simply takes time to receive all the information that it is based upon.”  His attorney’s filed a motion on December 22 with the court to obtain notes of investigation interviews with other people. The government’s case appears to be based on the testimony of others as to Ron’s activities in explanation of all the transactions covered in the 5000+ pages of discovery Ron has already been provided. The US attorney’s response to the defense motion was that under the Jencks Act it was not required to provide this information unless and until the inteviewee testified in court, and that the government did not want to volunteer this as discovery before being required to under law.

The trial judge, Danny C. Reeves, agreed with the government in an order issued on Thursday — Ronnie doesn’t get this additional discovery. So if Ronnie is really curious, he’s going to have to take the matter to trial and see who the government places on the witness stand and what they say.  I’d like to see him do that and lose as it would be further exposure of whatever he did plus he would get a longer sentence.  But he has the option of negotiating a plea agreement for lesser charges and a reduced sentence.  However, he has to get that in place during the week prior to the pre-trial conference scheduled for March 12.  Perhaps Ron is considering this, as yesterday he didn’t repeat his prophecy of Christ’s return on Pentecost.

I, Mike (DDTFA) now have a sign about a lying wonder, and I prophesy that Christ will NOT return on Pentecost.  Bow down to me and don’t forget to send me your tithes.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland often makes date relationships between certain events, claiming prophetic significance.  One such claim, posted on his church website as part of his 23rd “truth” is:

Joseph Tkach, Sr. died 40 weeks to the very hour that he delivered his sermon of apostasy, which was a sign to God’s Church that Jesus Christ was now coming and that final end-time events had begun.

The False Prophet repeated this in his latest blog posting:

The truth is that this apostasy occurred on December 17, 1994, when Joseph Tkach, Sr. gave his defiant sermon against the truths of God and the Church became scattered as a result of that rebellion. It was from this time that God began to reveal dates and the importance in their timing. It is astounding how anyone who was scattered can deny the importance of the timing of Joseph Tkach’s death and God’s hand in its revelation.

Joseph Tkach, Sr. rebelled against God when he declared that the Sabbaths of God were no longer binding on God’s people. It was exactly 40 Sabbaths later, to the hour, that Joseph Tkach, Sr. died. Such timing should thunder loudly to God’s people, but it hasn’t.

I decided to check into this claim.  I found the “Servant’s News” September, 1995 issue (PDF download from Servants New website).  In it, Norm Edwards includes the text of a WCG Press Release on page 2.  The text reads:

WCG Press Release:
On Saturday, September 23, 1995, Joseph W. Tkach, Pastor General of the Worldwide Church of God, died in Pasadena, California, Headquarters of the Worldwide Church of God., In May of this year, Mr. Tkach underwent gall bladder surgery at which time it was discovered that he had cancer. After a four-month fight with his illness, Mr. Tkach died quietly at Huntington Memorial Hospital at 2:20 p.m. (PST).

Let’s analyze this further: 2:20 PM Pacific Standard Time was 5:20 PM Eastern Standard Time.  It was also 12:20 AM IST on the following day (Sunday) and well after the sabbath had ended in Jerusalem.  Furthermore, as shown in my last post, it was almost 4 hours AFTER the time (1:30 PM EST, 10:30 PST) that Joseph Tkach was kicked out of the hall in Atlanta, ending his prophetic sermon.

Whom do I believe?  Do I believe Norm Edwards and WCG, who have no dog in this fight?  Or do I believe a demonstrated insane liar (by his own definition)?

False Prophet Ronald Weinland, your pants are on fire.  Will you correct your “truth”??  Thought not, you liar!!

False Prophet Ronald Weinland, let me put that in terms you will understand.  You are a liar, liar, liar!!!!  But really, the 40-week thing doesn’t matter.  Even if the events could be traced to be exactly 40 weeks to the very minute between Tkach’s death and the exact statement he made in Atlanta that made him the “Son of Perdition” and “Man of Sin”, it still would not trump all of your failed prophecies.  Less than 5 months before Christ returns.  Where are the jack-booted German soldiers that are supposed to be tormenting us?

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from the Vancouver WA area this weekend.   Since God is showing the mercy of continuing to delay the Great Tribulation, PKG members are taking advantage of this while the opportunity presents to travel to meet their spiritual idol.  He announced trips through the end of February, stating that it’s difficult to plan ahead.  I agree, as Ron will be occupied with his criminal trial in March and if he decides to make a plea agreement has to do so early in the month.

Ron is astounded that some of his elders are hedging their bets by setting funds aside in case Jesus Christ doesn’t return.  Bet-hedging is reserved for the false prophet, who paid his property taxes even though that would not be necessary if Christ really returns in May.  He recommends they listen again to the Last Great Day sermon to reestablish their confidence.  I have a feeling they are thinking of what Ron said in the LGD sermon when deciding to hold back.  I say “Shame on you elders!!  Send it all in!! Ron has an expensive legal defense team to pay for.”

Ron stated that Joe Tkach’s apostasy took place to the hour 13 time 70 weeks before Christ returns.  Ron has scheduled Christ to return at sundown in Jerusalem, which is when God’s day begins.  The time for sunset in Jerusalem on December 17, 1994 was 4:38 PM Israel Standard Time (IST).  IST is UTC +2 hours, while Eastern Standard Time is UTC -5 hours for a 7-hour difference.  So sunset in Jerusalem on 12/17/94 occurred at 9:38 AM Atlanta time.  Was Joseph Tkach speaking at 9:38 AM?  Below is a picture of the Atlanta congregation bulletin for that momentus date. 

Note that they were required to clear the hall at 1:30, and other reports indicate that Joe had to cut his sermon short.  Had Joe started his sermon by 9:38 AM?  I doubt it.

Whether or not Joe’s sermon took place exactly 13 x 70 weeks to the hour before Ron’s prophesied return is beside the point.  It is trumped by current events.  Or non-events.  Thielogical Bob just posted breathlessly that Obama was pulling half of our troops out of Germany.  This would be the President Obama who did not take office in January of 2009 because Weinland prophesied that we would not have a new president.  And wait a minute!!! We’re now less than 5 months from Pentecost.  Germany was supposed to be the beast power occupying the US and tormenting us.  Instead, it sounds more like we’re occupying them.  How could that be?

Ron said that he was crunching numbers during the morning before the sermon.  Looking for more signs and lying wonders to distract his following from his continuing prophetic failures.  Ron is bowled over by those still blogging about Herbert Armstrong 26 years after his death.  And by those who blog against him.  By the way wRonG, I don’t need to mention your scatological references, you provide a target-rich environment otherwise.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland just updated his “Seeking a Response FAQ”.  Here is what the intro used to say:

Due to an ever-increasing number of people who desire a response from the Church of God – PKG, we are now handling all requests in the following manner. Any who want to debate beliefs or who are seeking to express their own ideas will not receive a response. Such e-mail will simply be deleted.

Those who can receive more direct contact with God’s Church are those who are genuinely seeking help and desire a closer relationship with the Church. If you are one of these people, then you must be patient and closely follow the instruction given in the steps below.

You must be willing to search out answers through your own efforts. For nearly all questions, you can receive answers if you will do more searching and digging on your own with the resources we have made available to you, and as you do this you will be led to more direct contact with us.

You have before you all that is needed in order to properly respond to God’s calling, if you are genuine about your desire to repent and change your life, so that you might have the opportunity to live into the new age that is now coming to this earth. If you follow the steps outlined below, you will have all that is needed, at this time, to properly equip yourself for the coming of Jesus Christ.

Here’s what the new introduction to “Seeking a Response” says {with commentary}:

This article is being written to specifically address issues that will surface in this last five month period of this end-time that ends on May 27, 2012. {How about addressing the lack of the beast power that was to be tormenting the US by now?}

As stated in 2008 – God’s Final Witness, we do not know the day that the Second Trumpet will sound, nor the time that the following five trumpets will sound. {Let’s see, the 5 trumpets that follow the 2nd one are the 3rd through 7th. Yes it’s true. Ron doesn’t know when any of them are to sound, including the 7th. The 7th trumpet will NOT sound at sundown at the start of Pentecost in Jerusalem.  But you’re getting ahead of things, Ron — we’re still waiting to see all the exactly-what-it-means-destroyed-plant-life of the First Trumpet.} But we do know that as this sequence of events unfolds, people in ever increasing numbers are going to be drawn to God as they seek the answers to why such horrible events are happening in this world. {Actually it’s the opposite. PKG members will leave the church as non-fulfillment of Ron’s prophecies continue.}

If you want answers and seek a response from the Church to your questions or desire baptism then we urge you to closely follow the guidelines of this article. As conditions worsen and larger numbers of people begin to turn toward God, {only in your fevered imagination, Ron} we are going to have a more difficult time responding to all who are wanting help due to our small number of ministers throughout the world. {Made smaller by the no-show of the 3000 ex-WCG members who were to join your church by now.  And it will be even harder if you end up being imprisoned for criminal tax fraud.} Therefore, it is all the more important that you follow these guidelines so that the likelyhood of a response to your questions can be answered.

Any who want to debate beliefs or who are seeking to express their own ideas will not receive a response. Any such e-mail we receive will simply be deleted.

What will be telling is what Ron does over the next couple of months.  Ron has until around the 8th of March to negotiate a plea arrangement for a reduced sentence.  If the church’s legal team and investigator are not able to put together a defense, he might decide to do that.  By now, they’ve had about two months to look over the discovery and may have a pretty good idea.  If Ron decides to make a plea, we may have the 58th truth rolled out in the next few weeks to suspend the current timeline and prepare the church for an extended absence of their spiritual idol.  Interested observers will be listening for clues in upcoming sermons. Ron can turn things on a dime. Back in 2008, he was still talking great tribulation in May, by mid-June he aborted the first timeline and rolled out the 50th “truth”.

In the meantime,  you may remember Harold Camping’s May 21st date for the rapture last year.   Media interest in this year’s false-prophet-with-an-end-date-in-May has been sparked by this posting on the God Discussion site.  Their posting has been reposted and referenced on dozens of blogs over the past few days.  The God Discussion website has a live PodCast on Thursday evenings beginning at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific time.  Yours truly is scheduled to be interviewed about Weinland during the show, probably about an hour into the show for about 15 minutes.  The topic probably will not include a discussion as to whether Ron is mentally ill — I am not a mental health professional and have limited qualifications in that area.  Will provide more details on this Sixth Thunder event as I get them.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Phoenix this weekend.  Ron marveled at how the Roman calendar for 2011 was the same as 1994 when the apostasy of Joe Tkach occurred.  Ron marveled at how the anniversary of the apostasy was the date of his ministerial meeting at a 5-diamond hotel in Las Vegas.  Satan was interested in the location because he’s interested in finding out what’s happening and he doesn’t find out until Ron reveals it.

Ron marveled at how this was the last Christmas.  Satan is the source of the pressure on Ron and his pressure and anxiety.  I guess the criminal case against Weinland doesn’t count.  Since his attorney was granted additional time by the court to review the 5000+ pages of evidence against him, was granted until Jan 9 to file defensive motions, and  the hearing scheduled for this coming Wednesday has been rescheduled for February 17.

Ron is feeling pressure from bloggers and critics.  He again suggested that we go fishing, and referred to members who left PKG and didn’t go quietly as snakes in the grass.  Perhaps he didn’t care for my publishing that his ministerial conference was in Las Vegas again, but then being Vegas Satan was already there.

Ron will be changing the baptism ceremony as of this coming Sunday, which is a significant date on the current version of his second current timeline: it’s the beginning of the last 20-week “half-a-time”.  Given that time is short for a few hundred of Ron’s elders unaided by the tithe of a third of the scattering to baptize millions of people, the ceremony will have to be simplified.  Perhaps no laying on of hands.  Ron could issue magic wands so a single elder could bless thousands of people who’ve dunked themselves with a single wave.  Probably no wand, a simple wave of the hands like the Pope on his balcony would do.

Ron again hit on the theme that most of the acts of Jesus in the “gospels” were accomplished in the last 2 to 3 weeks of his life.  The government was after Jesus but was held back.  We’ll have to see if the same works out for Ron.  In the meantime, Ron reminded his followers that it was not immoral to buy things on credit if one had the intent of paying the debt if the current status quo endured.  But really-for-sure-this-time it would not be necessary to pay it back, as all the corporations will be wiped out in the Great Tribulation and whatever property you have will be yours free and clear.

Ron ended his sermon by recycling the last seven of his truths that were revealed since the First Trumpet blew and the Great Tribulation began.

With this being the weekend for trading calendars, we look back at the past year and forward to the next.  In February, Ron posted that now was the time for the thunders to increase and strike the US and called for his followers to pray for the same.  This was followed by an earthquake in New Zealand and a major tsunami struck Northeast Japan.  In April, Ron declared 40 weeks of judgment to strike primarily on the US and other scattered nations of Israel.  We have one more week for that judgment to materialize and it should be a bad one as there’s a lot of catching up to do.

After 3 & 1/2 years since beginning the investigation, a federal grand jury returned an indictment on November 10 charging the Spokesman Witness with 5 counts of tax evasion and maintaining a foreign bank account without properly declaring it. Ron posted a weak response on his blog for those PKG members who had not heard of the issue.  Currently a criminal trial is scheduled to begin on March 20.  I put the following odds on the outcome:

• 20% of Ron getting an acquittal at trial
• 35% of Ron being convicted at trial
• 35% that Ron will plead guilty to get a lesser sentence
• 10% that Ron will go on the lam

The second outcome is what I prefer.  This would bring into public view the details of what the government alleges, and result in a longer sentence to isolate the End-Time Elijah from his deluded followers.

For the Apostle’s Last Great Day barn burner sermon, he faked out his membership by hinting that Christ would not return next May, and then took it all back, saying he believed more strongly in his Pentecost date.  This took his membership though the emotions of this failure, giving them practice for the real announcement of his failure later this year.  Some members had a very hard time with it.

This was all too much for “ChaCha” and her husband who left the church in October.  ChaCha appeared on this blog in August expressing doubts and cut the cord after Ron’s LGD opus.  Mr. ChaCha had a harder time of it.  Hopefully the next year will have continued recovery and be a much better one for Mr. & Mrs ChaCha.

Kirrily continued her recovery from being a member of Ron’s cult and earlier this year announced that she and her husband are expecting.  We are looking forward to the imminent arrival of her son.  While the new addition likely will result in less participation from her we welcome this change.

Looking forward to this coming year, I prophesy that Christ will not return on Pentecost or any other day.  I am more sure of this than Ron is of the opposite.  (Remember that Ron hedged his bet by paying the property tax on his house on the golf course even though there would be no legal repercussions before Pentecost.)  I am less certain of how this failure will play out in terms of Ron’s response.  If the outcome of his legal situation results in his imprisonment before May, I expect he will declare some kind of timeline change.  If he beats the rap, the recognition of failure will come later.  There is a possibility that Ron will spiritualize the return of Christ as he has other failures such as the non-sounding of the First Trumpet.  And as he did the non-deaths of his mockers and critics.

I predict that Ron will retain a sizable following even after the failure of his prophecies, and this even if he ends up with an extended vacation in Club Fed.  Significant numbers of his followers will leave, and if Ron is isolated in prison more followers will drift away during his imprisonment.

Either way, I expect a need for this blog after Pentecost and plan to renew the web hosting which expires shortly after Pentecost.

I hope the coming year will be better for those involved: the commenters on this blog.  PKG members who will hopefully leave.  Most of all for friends and family members of those still following Ron, as they have no choice.  Happy New Year to all of you. I am leaving Ron and Laura off the list and hope they get some measure of the comeuppance they deserve, which will be less than that called out in Revelation 22.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke this weekend from the luxurious Venetian Resort Hotel & Casino at his International Ministerial Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada.  But he didn’t state his location, so those few members who don’t read my blog don’t know where he is this weekend.  The 29 in attendance would have included: Ron and Laura, Johnny and Myrtle Harrell, Wayne and Chris Matthews, Terry and Ann Wrozek, Scott and Kristina Cameron, Audra and Chris Little, Adrian and Cindy Gray, Steve and Patty Dalrymple, William and Una Milne, Dave and Shelley Conley, Lori Williams, Mitch Williams, Jimmy Carlisle, Willem Henderson, Jim Jamieson, Ralph Dowd, Leonard McGlynn, and Greg Chipps.

Before beginning the sermon, he gave the name of elders newly ordained or promoted since the feast.  The lucky people are: Bert from Hawaii; Keith and Diana Prutsman, and Kathi Wilson from TN; Carla, Shirley, and Daisy from KY, Mike from IN, Amanda Wrozek and Nancy from MI with Greg Chipps promoted to Senior Elder; Parker in CO; Elmira Worth, George, Geneva, and Gabrielle Giles from GA with Paul Giles promoted to elder; Louisa from Manitoba with George Black  promoted to elder; Eric and Kaylee Wiesman from Alberta promoted to elder; Sandy Czech in WA promoted to elder, Sandy and Jimmy in OH, Cindy Gray from New Zealand promoted to elder, and Kristina Cameron from Colby, KS (Ron’s sister) promoted to senior elder.  These elders increase the ranks of those to be tasked with baptizing millions in the US before Christ returns in May.

Ron is looking again at his list of “truths”.  In his sermon, Ron tweaked his 51st truth about his being the end-time Elijah-to-come.  It was two years ago, in December of 2009, when Ron decided that he was the end-time Elijah-to-come supplanting Herbert Armstrong.  (You might find it interesting to follow that link and read several articles describing all the contradictions surrounding the 51st “truth”.) Now Ron has decided that he needed to add two sentences to it, which will be included in the text of the “truth” on the website.  The apostles got much from Christ, but Herbert Armstrong had so much more.  And Ronald Weinland has so many more new revealed, not just restored, truths than Herbert Armstrong.  No doubt Ronald will still be happy to have Christ come on May 27 and take off the pressure by demoting him again.

Seventeen years ago yesterday, Joe Tkach Sr opened the first seal and committed the abomination of desolation in a sermon delivered in Atlanta.  Seventeen years ago this coming Saturday, he reprised the sermon at the church college in Big Sanday, that sermon being the one that was recorded and sent to all WCG congregations and was the one referred to as the “Christmas Eve” sermon (not the one in Atlanta).

Five years ago yesterday, newly ordained elder Kathi Wilson’s son Tony posted the following on the now withdrawn Ambassador Watch blog:

I know alot of you are rambling on and on about mental illness, delusions of grandeur, false prophecies, etc. etc.

I’m a man who knows Ronald Weinland. I’ve known him for multiple years. If there is one thing that I can say about him it is that he is far from insane and he is far from egotistical. In fact Ronald Weinland is one of the most down to earth individuals I’ve ever met.

This whole forum is dedicated to bitterness and frankly it reeks of a spirit not inspired from above. Just look at all the bloated hatred you all spew in every which way. Regardless of your opinion, pro or con, shouldn’t a Christian attitude be one of sympathy and concern instead of bitterness?

A lot of bad things have happened in the various COGs, I’ve spent years researching it and digging to the bottom of it all to wrap my brain around it. Sadly, the history is filled with individuals like those here on this forum dedicated not to any semblance of decency but simply tearing down (and if the truth stands in your way, who cares?)

If you want to talk about his book, why don’t you actually read it so you won’t appear so foolish along with full of blind hatred? You’ll see that he’s not in the same mold as Herbert W. Armstrong- he deviates from a lot of his positions on prophecy. He also addresses the foolish “No man knows the day or the hour” statement (If Christ is opening the seven seals of Revelation, wouldn’t he now know a timeline?)

If you want actual prophecies- read the book. He’s stated very boldly specific individuals are going to die and in what order (Rod Meredith, Richard Ames, Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack, John Ritenbaugh). If that’s not a specific prophecy, what is? And obviously there’s not a whole lot of time to wait for that fulfillment.

And what are you sad tormented souls going to do when your sources of entertainment are gone?

Ronald Weinland is a good and honest man, humble and dedicated to overcoming base human nature (you know, the one epitomized and displayed here by most present). And in the grand scheme of things, does anything else matter but that? Can any of you honestly claim similar?

Well, Tony, as far as whether I’m a good and honest man, I don’t have a horde of ex-cult members and family of current cult members who consider me the opposite of good.  Nor does the government have sufficient doubt of my honesty to indict me for criminal tax fraud.  Can you honestly claim the same about Ronald Weinland?

It’s five years later and none of the five individuals you mention have died.  Five years is a lot more than a whole lot of time for five old men to die to specifically verify God’s own end-time prophet as truly His representative according to the very test he himself defined.  What are you going to do with these revelations?  What are you going to do when Christ doesn’t return as prophesied by your spiritual idol next year on the Memorial Day weekend?

By the way, it was 3 years ago today that Ronald Weinland reissued his death curse against anyone who would mock him.  Here I am, still mocking away.  Since then, Ron has spiritualized the deaths of his mockers.  Personally,  I feel exactly the same spiritually.

This post is timed to release at sundown in Jerusalem.  At which time the Feast of Trumpets begins.  And also the time that False Prophet Ronald Weinland first prophesied that Christ would return.

The first time.  Now Ronnie prophesies that Christ returns next May 26 at sundown in Jerusalem, which is the beginning of the day of Pentecost.  The second time that Christ doesn’t return.

May be a few more times that Christ doesn’t return before Ron is done.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland speaks often about his belief that the return of Jesus Christ will be on May 27 of next year.  Actually, according to his prophecies it to be is at the beginning of Pentecost in Jerusalem.  In Armstrongism as in Judaism, the day begins at sundown the evening before.  Which for Pentecost of 2012 occurs in Jerusalem at 7:36 PM Israel Daylight Time on Saturday, May 26.  Due to the difference in time zones it will be mid-day on Saturday, May 26 here in the United States.

That is, it is exactly one year to the minute from the publication of this post that Christ will not return as prophesied by Ronnie.  The beast power and the Asiatic hordes will not be assembled in the Valley of Megiddo to do epic battle.  There will not be a massive earthquake at which time Ron and Laura’s bodies will not be resurrected from the streets of Jerusalem.  Their bodies will not be lying in the streets either.  The beast power will not take them there and kill them on the morning of May 23.  And should they decided to do themselves in, the local authorities will clean up the streets (no continuous televising an image of their bodies).  However, I do not expect Ron and Laura to do anything like that.

Rather, by then Ron will have recognized that hundreds of ex-WCG members have not acknowledged him as the End-Time Witness, and will have recognized that millions of other people have not utilized all his elders to get baptized and join PKG.  By that time he will have moved to the plan B that he telegraphed a few weeks ago.  Plan B being that while not a prophet he is still an apostle.  And how do we know that he’s an apostle?  Because of all the new truth he revealed.  And how do we know it’s the truth?  Because Ron’s an apostle.  And how do we know Ron’s an apostle?   Because he said he is.  Got that?  Quite simple when you think about it.

I expect that instead of lying in the streets of Jerusalem, he will be lying in the pulpit as he delivers his day-before-Pentecost sermon, a couple of hours later if delivered here in the US but probably earlier than that if he’s in the Netherlands as he is normally.  He will still have a substantial portion of his current following, which followed him from the first timeline into the second timeline.  Which continues to follow him despite the continual compression of the Great Tribulation into the last of the 3 & 1/2 years.