False Prophet Ronald Weinland

Listening to False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s LGD sermon as I type this.  So what I’m typing will probably be revised as the sermon continues and I get a chance to review.  Read all the way through before reaching a conclusion.

Ronnie had an epiphany the night of Atonement while in Australia.  Sounds like he’s getting PKG ready for Christ to not return on Pentecost.  Instead, that will be the real beginning of Ron’s wearing sackcloth and starting to prophesy.  Look for Christ’s return in the fall of 2015.

Still put as a “what if?” right now — what would you do? Where would you go?  No other place has Ron’s “truths” that he invented from his own twisting of the Bible to fit what happened in Armstrongism.  And don’t forget the ordination of women.  God expects you to remain faithful.

But Ron insists he believes all 57 “truths”.  Now he’s making it sound like the epiphany was actually an attack from Satan, just as Jesus was tempted while fasting.  And that he believes more strongly that Christ returns next Pentecost.

But if he’s really wrong about Christ’s return, he would still believe the rest of it.  And feel for all his followers who suffer, and mourn the ones who will leave him.  There will be some who won’t be with him during the next feast.  But wait, he thinks he’s going to be a spirit being.  Guess they won’t be with him.

Ron is planning to have another elders conference with evangelists and senior elders in December.  Also is planning to put himself out for radio interviews in December.  PKG is marching forward.

Will listen to the sermon again tomorrow and add more thoughts.

Thursday kicked off the last, historic Feast of Tabernacles before Christ doesn’t return next May.  False Prophet Ronald Weinland has delivered 3 sermons there and is leaving today (tomorrow in NZ) to go to Australia.

During his first sermon, he appealed to the fence sitters.  And did some bolstering of the faithful challenging his members (as transcribed by “Doubt It” in a comment to my prior post):

See. I mentioned in the beginning of the sermon. I believe, we believe, in the timing of what God has given to us. But I will tell you candidly, and if it didn’t happen at that time, these things are coming to pass. What do you believe? How convicted are you? Do you see Europe coming together? I don’t care if it happens next month or the month after that it’s going to take place. See. Incredible. If you see what’s happening in the world around you. The reason I ask some of this is because it fits into the Last Great Day sermon. Ok. And some of you are going to be tested and tried in ways you don’t grasp and comprehend yet. See. This is not a cakewalk. A matter of your faith and what you believe and what your relationship is with God. See. Anyway…

During his second sermon, he reminded his members that they know it’s all true even though it (and actually nothing) has happened yet.  It’s like a pregnancy with the pain of delivery happening at the end. Powerful spiritual battles are being waged that we can’t see.  The world will be led from spiritual Egypt to spiritual Israel.  Probably after the spiritual tribulation and the spiritual return of Christ.  Eventually, it’s aaalllll spiritual.  He railed against HWA’s house intellectual Herman Hoeh and warned people not to allow themselves to become intellectual.  Instead of coming up with their own nonsense, they should leave that to Ron and his scouring of Strongs Concordance for alternate suitable meanings to ancient words.

My takeaway Bible verse is Isaiah 42:19: “Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD’S servant?”

During the third sermon, Ron reminisced about the luge rides last year in New Zealand.  He and Pat Cameron had a near collision and Ron thinks that his appendix burst as a result of his effort to avoid it.  Hmm, I wonder about that.  Ron missed the Day of Atonement sermon last year, maybe that’s when it happened.  His appendicitis pain was so bad that he joked about being pushed off the 3rd floor of the hospital but realized that he couldn’t die because he’s a Witness.  Too bad his Witness Powers didn’t extend to an instant recovery so that he could prophesy during those days also.

He explained the Facebook ban as not a real ban mandated by the church.  Rather than people getting off Facebook because they’re ordered to do so, they’re to get off because they’re convicted that it’s bad.  A distinction without a difference, as they realize it’s bad because Ron told them it’s bad.

A few more interesting tidbits.  Ron doesn’t fully understand his own book, realizing new meanings as events develop (or rather don’t develop).  He asked PKG members where else can they go.  With all the splinters of Armstrongism, one is bound to have the flavor of Armstrongism they like without all the false prophecy.  And it seems that he has been threatened with physical harm by haters.  While I think that assaulting him would be wrong, I could understand that those who’ve lost family members to his lies might be less charitable.

The most entertaining was delivered by Terry Wrozek.  If you can’t stand listening to Ron you might download Terry’s sermon and listen to the first few minutes.  He talks about all the inspired notes in the margin of his Bible that didn’t come true.  When he was in WCG, he didn’t think that Christ would return in his lifetime.  He talked about the “Aha moments” when Ron gave him new truth.  Terry, be prepared for more “aha moments” when Ron’s prophecies undeniably fail next May.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland did battle with the demons in the electronics while in Australia.  The demons won out during the opening prayer and whichever elder gave the opening prayer lost out on his chance for fame as it wasn’t in the recording.  Ron’s Witness Powers were tested as someone cut him off in traffic on the way to services, almost causing an accident.

Yesterday was the Day of Atonement.  The faithful were reminded of the collection of special offerings, and since this was the day to afflict their souls by fasting, there could be a bit more in the offering plate.

And they’ll get to do it all again on Thursday as that’s the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles.  Ron dangled a few carrots about the feast sermons but warned that the sixth and seventh sermons will be tests.  Maybe that’s when he’ll begin rolling out the groundwork in earnest for the reasons they should continue to follow him despite all his false prophecies.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in the Netherlands yesterday.  He had recently ordained elder Edwin Van Horne give the opening prayer.  Some room rearranging and deciding whether to close the door against traffic noises followed.

Last weekend was prophecy from various websites about the emerging 5th trumpet which still hasn’t blown on schedule despite August having been the latest it would go off.  But then we now have more time as during the Trumpets sermon Ron gave as long as April for the 2nd trumpet.  This week was about the Four Demons who are preparing China to lead a 200-million-man army derived from various Asiatic nations.  This preparation began no later than around the Days of Unleavened Bread as preparation of an army of that size doesn’t happen overnight and requires an hour, a day, a month, and a year.  He then read a news article about the Chinese Navy flexing its muscles in the South China Sea.  China is disputing rights to undersea oil with its neighbors.  There was no discussion of the preparation to train and equip an army of that size.  Nor was there any discussion of the preparation to mobilize and transport an army of that size along with equipment and supplies to the Valley of Megiddo. No mention of building large numbers of ships and aircraft.

We’ve had some interaction in the comments section of another post with a PKG member who goes by “Joeseph” (his spelling, not mine).  On Thursday (the Feast of Trumpets), he left a few comments starting with this one that included a link to a news article.   Yesterday (the weekly sabbath), he left another few comments and accused me of deleting his earlier comments.  He then reposted a link to a WSJ article and stated:  “I guess this is just strange coincidence that the EU is splitting into two groups, the strong being a group of 10. HWA explained this in the 20s…and it’s happening now just like Ron said it would…hmmm, how could it be? ”

Well, I went to the article and read the following:

“It will be changed in two very important ways. First, the 27-nation European Union will have fractured into separate groups of 17 and 10. Second, the economies of the Gang of 17 will be centrally managed by a Franco-German coalition, while the nations among the 10 “leftovers” will fight a losing battle to effect the policies of the EU of which they are paid-up members. Peaceful coexistence between the 17 and the 10 is no sure thing.”

PKG members have the special eyes to see exactly what False Prophet Ronald Weinland wants them to see.  But “Joeseph” got another thing wrong — Herbert Armstrong did not prophesy this in the ’20s.  He invented his religion in the ’20s and ’30s plagiarizing from other religions.  In the lead up to WWII, he prophesied that Hitler would be the beast power. But then that wasn’t his only false prophesy, and Ron Weinland is following in the footsteps of his somewhat diminishing spiritual idol.

Jesus Christ did not return yesterday to resurrect False Prophet Ronald Weinland and the Mrs. from the streets of Jerusalem and convert them to spirit beings.  So Ron have his Feast of Trumpets sermon  from the Netherlands, after reminding his sheep to shear themselves with special holy day offerings.

Ron gave us an update on the trumpets:

It amazes me sometimes to think that people all the way to the end are going to go by the wayside.  You think your trials are over with?  You think you haven’t been tried yet?  I can just tell you right now,  the longer it goes that we have peace around us, the harder it’s going to be for you.  The longer it might take for the second trumpet to sound –  I don’t know when it’s going to be:  It could be today.  It could be tomorrow.  It could be next week.  It could be next month.  It could be January.  It can be April.     I …. don’t ….. know.

By January, Ron will be spiritualizing the 5 months of torment of the 5th trumpet.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from London this weekend.  Wonder what happened to Weinland’s long-time member Phillip Burman as Ron gave the opening prayer and William Milne gave the closing  (Mile drank Herbert Armstrong’s Flavor Aid starting in the 60′s and now is drinking Ron’s.)

Ron made it easy on his accolytes who update the PKG website with references to Ronnie’s references to the scriptures.  He spent little time in the Bible, I caught a reading from Rev 17.  If he attributed it or used other verses I missed them in all the blather.  Instead, Ron read from various headlines and news articles about the economics problem in Europe with the PIIGS.  The pope visited his home country of Germany this week.  Somehow this will bring together 10 nations who will come together as the Beast Power sometime before Christ doesn’t return next May (the 5th trumpet).  Perhaps by January to allow 5 months of torment, or maybe not.  Ron implied that the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th trumpets would happen in the next 3 months, and could happen all in one day.  Personally, I’m still waiting for the First Trumpet.  In “2008 — God’s Final Witness” discussing the First Trumpet, Ron states: “When we are told that a third of all plant life will be destroyed, that is exactly what it means.” (page 118)  Ron did issued a prophecy which I endorse fully — it’s the title to this post.

This week is highly significant in Ronnie’s timeline.  No, not the current one — the first one.  In Ron’s first timeline, he and Laura would have been killed a few hours ago and their bodies would be lying in the streets of Jerusalem with full TV coverage.  The Asiatic Hordes would be assembling in the Valley of Megiddo. Christ would be returning this coming Thursday, or actually Wednesday evening at sundown in Jerusalem.  And I would have slowly died from the inside according to the first issuance of his death curse in April of 2008.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from Dublin, Ireland this weekend. He previously visited 4 years ago during the summer of 2007 just prior to his Total Resolve sermon. Last week while in the Netherlands he ordained a new elder, his new member from the Middle East. I hope this is a Packistani from one of the states which has criminalized Ron’s books.

Perhaps Ron is signalling a new “truth”. It seems that the 6th trumpet has blown, as he stated that the Asiatic hordes are prepared for whatever they’re going to do. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th trumpet can all happen in one day. But Ron doesn’t know, doesn’t have the foggiest idea, when the 2nd trumpet will be blown. The 5 months of torment of the 5th trumpet might just be the economy. The 7th thunder will mostly happen next May just before Christ doesn’t return. So maybe Ron is wearing out his Strong’s Concordance and the next truth will be that the 6th through 2nd trumpets will happen in reverse order.

Ron gave one of his shortest, if not indeed his shortest sermons with the MP3 file including lead-in song and opening prayer only 1 hour and 19 minutes. The topic was the final “truths” given during the Laodicean era which according to him ended with his second timeline. He zipped through “truths” 43 to 50 and 46 through 50 were mentioned during the last 4 minutes. Perhaps Ron needed to visit the men’s room.

He made an aside revisiting Herbert Armstrong’s “US and BC in Prophecy” booklet, page 17 in the 1954 edition or page 121 of the 1967 edition. HWA claimed that the house of David was killed off except for one daughter who Jeremiah brought to Ireland along with Jacob’s pillar stone to continue David’s dynasty which includes Queen Elizabeth II (never mind that the House of Windsor actually came from Germany).

Also covered in relative depth was the theory that a tithe of a third of those formerly in the Worldwide Church of God at the time of Joe Tkach Sr’s apostasy in December of 1994 will join PKG before Pentecost of next year. This would be around 3200 people. God leaves maneuvering room in his prophecies so maybe it will be a title of the whole or around 9600 people. People need to read what is written carefully. I suggest starting with page 125 of “2008 — God’s Final Witness” which states:

At the same time all these events come together at the sounding of the Fifth Trumpet, there will be an initial period of time (five months) when much human suffering will continue as a result of the first four trumpets. This marks a time of great suffering on a worldwide scale, but even now, God’s Church is still part of these prophetic events. God’s Church still exists on earth, and will continue, all the way up to the very return of Jesus Christ; but many who were scattered in the Church, after the great falling away, will not live into the new millennial period that follows.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland left early for his feast trip and was in the Netherlands yesterday. His usual local elders there Gijs van Lerberghe and Willem Henderson were on hand to deliver the prayers. Mieke was typing madly away to translate the apostle’s latest musings into Dutch.

The ranks of the deluded are expanding with a new baptism of someone from “the middle east” and more people in the middle east listening in. Weinland’s books of fiction have been translated into Arabic and and Arabic version of the-end.com has been set up. A couple of Pakistani states outlawed Weinland’s books back in 2008. Perhaps other Islamic nations or more tolerant, or maybe they just haven’t heard of the Spokesman Witness.

Ronnie continued to recycle his “truths”, revisiting “truths” 38 through 42. For “truth #39″, He put some emphasis on Matt 17:11, signalling that he will spend more time parsing the meaning of “restore all things”. Probably as a prelude to “truth” #58 during the feast. Ron will need something to divert the faithful as less than 37 weeks remain before Christ doesn’t return, and less than 17 weeks of God’s judgment on the US as proclaimed by Weinland back in April. During the past week Weinland left the Red sea and had some inspiration as to what the feast sermons will be. In the meantime, he still has 15 old “truths” yet to recycle but these involve prophecies which are yet to be fulfilled.