False Prophet Ronald Weinland

False Prophet Ronald Weinland required engineering help to make some doors in Detroit yesterday, as members gathered from as far and as wide as the Carolinas.

Ron did some re-engineering of the Bible.  For example:

Rev 9:1  And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

is not about the timing of the blowing of the 5th trumpet, but rather the star falling was Satan’s fall long ago.  One should not read into the Bible that the star (whatever it is) falling is NOT a result of the 5th trumpet.  Even though it follows in the same sentence.  And this one:

Rev 9:13  And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, [:14]  Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.  [15]  And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

Ron claims that this is NOT about the blowing of the 6th trumpet. That is that the 6th trumpet is not blown a year, month, and day ahead of that.  He went back to parse the verse about the first trumpet:

Rev 8:6  And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. [7]  The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Now he says that “followed” means that while the first trumpet has sounded, we’re still in “followed” and we’re still going to see dead grass.

After hopscotching through several chapters in Revelation, he hopscotched through a number of news articles about the turmoil in Europe and Iran getting around sanctions by bypassing the dollar in oil trading.  He didn’t credit his sources, but I expect that they are the same type of source he normally uses such as World Net Daily.

Then Ron went on to hopscotch through his book “2008 — God’s Final Witness”, reading from pages 116-117, 121, & 125 -127.  He said that everything in it was going to happen.  For example, regarding this sentence in his book:

During the time covered in the Fifth Trumpet,  several hundred million people will die—more than the total number who died during the period of the first four trumpets.

Ron said it would happen after the Fifth Trumpet sounds and not full 5-month period.  Somehow it made perfect sense to his followers. During upcoming sermons, I expect Ron to hammer on the idea that specific periods of time like the year +month+day+hour and the 5-month period happen before their associated trumpets blew.  I think PKG members should reread Ron’s book and ask questions about certain passages.  Such as:

• “Those of the scattered Church of God, who are tormented during this five-month period, will suffer greatly for their stubborn pride and continued defiance against God.” (page 126).
• “This five-month period will also be paralleled by millions of people who will begin to repent and seek God.”(page 126)

These questions should be evaluated against reality.  The five-month period must have begun already, since we’re now less than 4 months from Pentecost.

• How is the “scattering” being tormented?  Have any of their leaders died?  How much of the scattering even knows that Ron exists?
• How long will you give Ron for his prophesy that about 3000 of the “scattering” are to join PKG?
• How long will you wait for the millions to come for baptism?  Are millions of people searching for the truth?  If they were, don’t you think that Ron would be running another Google ad campaign to let them know about PKG?  And that he would have had a lot more than than 3 requests for interviews and that Ron would not have advertised himself for them?

Ron repeated last weeks statement about this being the “second day” marching around Jericho.  He went on to explain that this last half-a-time of 140 days are divided into seven 20-day periods with each period being like a day marching around Jericho.  Last August 20 (the latest that the 5th trumpet was to sound according to his 2009 LGD sermon), Ron stated:

So, as with many prophetic things having to do with the end-time, again, this was not fully understood, but just so we’re all clear in all this: We’ve just entered the final two remaining periods of Half a Time, we are now in the sixth period. What an awesome thing! It’s like walking around Jericho and this is the sixth day – nothing’s happened – this is the sixth day, we’re walking around it again, but there are some differences.

Ron is frantically crunching numbers in search of more Signs and Lying Wonders to distract his followers.  Isn’t it wonderful living in Weinland’s Wacky World, where the second part of a sentence doesn’t relate to the first?  Where any period of time can be like any other period of time?  And symbols can change meaning on the fly.  All you need is a scorecard to keep track, and Weinland updates it for you every week.  Kind of like a Monty Python sketch, except in the end a Monty Python sketch has a consistent point.  The only point we have with Weinland is that he’s making it up as he goes along.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland and members from as far away as Georgia and Virginia were in Columbia.  Ron is getting lots of mileage out of the book of Daniel and plans several more sermons blathering about it.

Ron stated that since the dollar was going to be worthless by the Feast of Tabernacles that members could spend their second tithe to travel long distances to see their spiritual idol while they still can.  But save enough for Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread.  And if Ronnie’s criminal trial in March doesn’t end well for him, will people want to attend a feast with Johnny speaking for 8 days particularly since he won’t be a spirit being with the last name of Elohim.

Ron mocked the world for it’s buy-now-pay-later attitude.  But then he’s suggested that his members should buy stuff that way because after all the dollar will soon be worthless and you won’t have to pay it back.  But then he was suggesting that in 2008 and the bills have come due.

Ronnie made an odd statement, that this was the second day around Jericho. I replayed it to make sure that I heard it correctly.  I thought that one of Ronnie’s days of “marching around Jericho” was one of his 140-day half-a-times and that we are in the seventh and last of those.  But Ronnie has so much symbology to distract his membership from the fact that he’s batting .000 when it comes to fulfilled prophecy, that sometimes he gets his symbols confused, such as mixing up numbers for thunders, and the dates for seals and trumpets. Perhaps he’s thinking it’s the 2nd time marching around Jericho as the Israelites did 7 times on the 7th day.  If we divide the 140-day half-a-time into sevenths, each seventh is 20 days and today is the 21st day or the start of the 2nd seventh.  But if Ronnie explained that previously, I missed in amongst all his blather.  And what marching went on during the last 20 days?  Only thing Ronnie can point to is an interview on a low-powered radio station on the eastern shores of Maryland which convinced no one that he’s a prophet,  not even the host who evidently had not researched Ron and all his prior prophetic failures.  Maybe Ron will ramp things up and finally demonstrate one of his Witness Powers by calling down a plague or turning some water into blood.  Or who knows?  Maybe even striking down one of his mockers.

And maybe I missed his explanation of the fifth trumpet, which he promised at sometime on January 7th when he said:

…… I was asked a great question concerning the five months spoken of in Revelation concerning the events of the description of the 5th Trumpet. It’s a good question and it’s being asked a lot right now because it’s like – 5 months… wait a minute, we’re at 5 months! Just wait! God reveals everything in His time and it isn’t time yet for a specific sermon to be given on that. Maybe it’ll come next Sabbath, I don’t know yet. I have no idea what the sermon’s going to be!

A full month in and still no explanation from God.  And maybe I missed the outcome of this statement from March 12 of last year:

So again, some cannot wait for me to say that I am not a prophet, or to say that I am a false prophet.  Indeed, no one has long to wait do they? Isn’t that amazing? May 27, 2012 is not too far away and if Europe hasn’t risen by early 2012 and if China does not begin destroying the earth before that date, then the reality would be manifest much sooner, obviously. You don’t have to wait until 2012.  As far as the question they ask; what would I do? Well, first I’d repent before God and the Church. I’d acknowledge my sin and pray that God have mercy upon me for being so horribly presumptuous.

Have I missed Europe arising?  Have I missed the rampage of the Asiatic hordes led by China?  Or have I missed Ronnie repenting before the church?  Oh yeah.  Now I remember — to repent means to “think differently” which does not mean showing regret or remorse or acknowledging sin.  Just means that you changed your mind.  Which Ronnie has as he still claims that Jesus returns on schedule on the eve of Pentecost and somehow (we’re waiting to find how) the five months of torment following the 5th trumpet are going to be squeezed into just 3 weeks.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland cut it short in Dallas yesterday.  The entire dis-services was just under one hour instead of the normal two hours, including the announcements and opening and closing prayers by his US evangelists Terry and Johnny.  People traveled from far and wide to hear his abbreviated sermon From outside of Texas: Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Ohio, Washington, Kentucky, Germany, and Moldova (since I have ancestors who lived there, I already knew it was a small state on the Black Sea near Odessa, Ukraine).  Ron blathered on and on with his interpretation of Daniel’s 70 years in ancient Babylonian history.  Perhaps Ron quit early being anxious to get the party started at a local member’s open house later in the afternoon.  Or maybe Laura said that she wanted to spend extra time with her childhood friend Lori Williams (now living in Mississippi) while she still has the opportunity, as being the Silent Witness is scheduled to be killed in 4 months on May 23rd at the hands of the beast power.

Ron reminded people of the significant date of January 7, 1972.  That was the end of Herbert Armstrong’s second 19-year time cycle which must be in the Bible somewhere as it’s so significant.  (A solar calendar such as the Gregorian calendar we use and a lunar calendar such as the Jewish calendar will approximately synchronize to within hours every 19 years .)  One of Weinland’s signs and lying wonders is that it is exactly 40 years from Herbie’s January 7 to his own January 7 of this year, the end of his 6th shortened half-a-280-day-time.

Not so fast Ronnie.  You don’t get to use the Gregorian calendar as a sign.  Turns out that Jan 7, 1972 was Tevet 20 on the Jewish calendar.  Jan 7 of this year was NOT Tevet 20.  Tevet 20 this year was last Sunday.  What significant event happened on these dates?  On Tevet 20, 5732 (January 7, 1972), Herbert W (doesn’t stand for anything) Armstrong was exposed as a liar.  Exactly 40 years later on Tevet 20, 5772 (last Sunday), Ronald Eugene Weinland was judged as a liar on this blog as to his “truth” that Joseph Tkach died 40 weeks to the very hour after delivering his sermon in Atlanta on 12/17/94.

In his blog posting of November 26 responding to the indictment, Ron stated “I have been waiting to find out the full details of the indictment and it has been somewhat unsettling as it simply takes time to receive all the information that it is based upon.”  His attorney’s filed a motion on December 22 with the court to obtain notes of investigation interviews with other people. The government’s case appears to be based on the testimony of others as to Ron’s activities in explanation of all the transactions covered in the 5000+ pages of discovery Ron has already been provided. The US attorney’s response to the defense motion was that under the Jencks Act it was not required to provide this information unless and until the inteviewee testified in court, and that the government did not want to volunteer this as discovery before being required to under law.

The trial judge, Danny C. Reeves, agreed with the government in an order issued on Thursday — Ronnie doesn’t get this additional discovery. So if Ronnie is really curious, he’s going to have to take the matter to trial and see who the government places on the witness stand and what they say.  I’d like to see him do that and lose as it would be further exposure of whatever he did plus he would get a longer sentence.  But he has the option of negotiating a plea agreement for lesser charges and a reduced sentence.  However, he has to get that in place during the week prior to the pre-trial conference scheduled for March 12.  Perhaps Ron is considering this, as yesterday he didn’t repeat his prophecy of Christ’s return on Pentecost.

I, Mike (DDTFA) now have a sign about a lying wonder, and I prophesy that Christ will NOT return on Pentecost.  Bow down to me and don’t forget to send me your tithes.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from the Vancouver WA area this weekend.   Since God is showing the mercy of continuing to delay the Great Tribulation, PKG members are taking advantage of this while the opportunity presents to travel to meet their spiritual idol.  He announced trips through the end of February, stating that it’s difficult to plan ahead.  I agree, as Ron will be occupied with his criminal trial in March and if he decides to make a plea agreement has to do so early in the month.

Ron is astounded that some of his elders are hedging their bets by setting funds aside in case Jesus Christ doesn’t return.  Bet-hedging is reserved for the false prophet, who paid his property taxes even though that would not be necessary if Christ really returns in May.  He recommends they listen again to the Last Great Day sermon to reestablish their confidence.  I have a feeling they are thinking of what Ron said in the LGD sermon when deciding to hold back.  I say “Shame on you elders!!  Send it all in!! Ron has an expensive legal defense team to pay for.”

Ron stated that Joe Tkach’s apostasy took place to the hour 13 time 70 weeks before Christ returns.  Ron has scheduled Christ to return at sundown in Jerusalem, which is when God’s day begins.  The time for sunset in Jerusalem on December 17, 1994 was 4:38 PM Israel Standard Time (IST).  IST is UTC +2 hours, while Eastern Standard Time is UTC -5 hours for a 7-hour difference.  So sunset in Jerusalem on 12/17/94 occurred at 9:38 AM Atlanta time.  Was Joseph Tkach speaking at 9:38 AM?  Below is a picture of the Atlanta congregation bulletin for that momentus date. 

Note that they were required to clear the hall at 1:30, and other reports indicate that Joe had to cut his sermon short.  Had Joe started his sermon by 9:38 AM?  I doubt it.

Whether or not Joe’s sermon took place exactly 13 x 70 weeks to the hour before Ron’s prophesied return is beside the point.  It is trumped by current events.  Or non-events.  Thielogical Bob just posted breathlessly that Obama was pulling half of our troops out of Germany.  This would be the President Obama who did not take office in January of 2009 because Weinland prophesied that we would not have a new president.  And wait a minute!!! We’re now less than 5 months from Pentecost.  Germany was supposed to be the beast power occupying the US and tormenting us.  Instead, it sounds more like we’re occupying them.  How could that be?

Ron said that he was crunching numbers during the morning before the sermon.  Looking for more signs and lying wonders to distract his following from his continuing prophetic failures.  Ron is bowled over by those still blogging about Herbert Armstrong 26 years after his death.  And by those who blog against him.  By the way wRonG, I don’t need to mention your scatological references, you provide a target-rich environment otherwise.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from Tuscaloosa Hoover, Alabama this weekend.  Must not have found any associate elders since he had to import Ralph Dowd from Cincinnati to give the opening prayer, and Johnny came from the next state to give the closing.

Last week someone asked Ron about the 5 months of the 5th trumpet. Ron doesn’t know yet, so PKG members will have to wait awhile for Ron to figure out a lame excuse.  Right now he is probably distracted by his legal troubles.

Ron was not too distracted to do his favorite thing of figuring out how many days are between two other dates.  With today being 40 Roman years from Herbert Armstrong’s 1972 start of the Great Tribulation, Ron got to recycle HWA’s epic “My Commission” article from back then yet again.  And will get to recycle it yet again as HWA took on the “David defense” which is that none of God’s prophets are perfect.  Ron and HWA take that to high levels.

Ron cautioned against numerology, but pointed out as I did in a comment earlier this morning that it is exactly 13 70-week periods from December 17, 1994 to May 26, 2012.  Microsoft Excel comes in handy for false-prophet tracking.  The false prophet probably doesn’t know how to use it, unless Greg Chipps showed him how.  Since Christ’s return is scheduled for 11:36 AM EST on Saturday, May 26th of this year, I wonder if Tkach’s declaration in Atlanta took place at around 10 AM on December 17, 1994 or whatever time corresponded to sundown in Jerusalem on that date.  Perhaps one of my readers who was there will chime in with an answer.

Ron claims that thirteen is the number for rebellion and apostasy.  He didn’t back that up with any scripture.  But yet again Ron trots out more signs and lying wonders to fill in for the failures of his prophecies.  Ron did not discuss the progression of the 40 weeks of judgment on the modern scattered nations of Israel that took place over the last 40 weeks.  Ron did not discuss the demise of the United States as a nation within 6 months after the fall season of 2008.  Ron has not explained the lack of trumpeting and as he admitted in the sermon, he has no explanation for the 5-month period and the lack of beast power activity.  Yet he did not admit to being a false prophet, and therefore I don’t win Dill Weed’s Great End-of-the-End Contest as today was my date for Ron to own up to his failures.

Update: A connection just struck me.  Today, January 7 is my grandson’s 7th birthday.  Based on that, I prophesy that Christ will NOT return on May 27th nor any other day this year.  I prophesy that millions will not join PKG this year, not even thousands.  Let’s see whether my sign and lying wonder trumps that of demonstrated False Prophet Ronald Weinland.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Phoenix this weekend.  Ron marveled at how the Roman calendar for 2011 was the same as 1994 when the apostasy of Joe Tkach occurred.  Ron marveled at how the anniversary of the apostasy was the date of his ministerial meeting at a 5-diamond hotel in Las Vegas.  Satan was interested in the location because he’s interested in finding out what’s happening and he doesn’t find out until Ron reveals it.

Ron marveled at how this was the last Christmas.  Satan is the source of the pressure on Ron and his pressure and anxiety.  I guess the criminal case against Weinland doesn’t count.  Since his attorney was granted additional time by the court to review the 5000+ pages of evidence against him, was granted until Jan 9 to file defensive motions, and  the hearing scheduled for this coming Wednesday has been rescheduled for February 17.

Ron is feeling pressure from bloggers and critics.  He again suggested that we go fishing, and referred to members who left PKG and didn’t go quietly as snakes in the grass.  Perhaps he didn’t care for my publishing that his ministerial conference was in Las Vegas again, but then being Vegas Satan was already there.

Ron will be changing the baptism ceremony as of this coming Sunday, which is a significant date on the current version of his second current timeline: it’s the beginning of the last 20-week “half-a-time”.  Given that time is short for a few hundred of Ron’s elders unaided by the tithe of a third of the scattering to baptize millions of people, the ceremony will have to be simplified.  Perhaps no laying on of hands.  Ron could issue magic wands so a single elder could bless thousands of people who’ve dunked themselves with a single wave.  Probably no wand, a simple wave of the hands like the Pope on his balcony would do.

Ron again hit on the theme that most of the acts of Jesus in the “gospels” were accomplished in the last 2 to 3 weeks of his life.  The government was after Jesus but was held back.  We’ll have to see if the same works out for Ron.  In the meantime, Ron reminded his followers that it was not immoral to buy things on credit if one had the intent of paying the debt if the current status quo endured.  But really-for-sure-this-time it would not be necessary to pay it back, as all the corporations will be wiped out in the Great Tribulation and whatever property you have will be yours free and clear.

Ron ended his sermon by recycling the last seven of his truths that were revealed since the First Trumpet blew and the Great Tribulation began.

With this being the weekend for trading calendars, we look back at the past year and forward to the next.  In February, Ron posted that now was the time for the thunders to increase and strike the US and called for his followers to pray for the same.  This was followed by an earthquake in New Zealand and a major tsunami struck Northeast Japan.  In April, Ron declared 40 weeks of judgment to strike primarily on the US and other scattered nations of Israel.  We have one more week for that judgment to materialize and it should be a bad one as there’s a lot of catching up to do.

After 3 & 1/2 years since beginning the investigation, a federal grand jury returned an indictment on November 10 charging the Spokesman Witness with 5 counts of tax evasion and maintaining a foreign bank account without properly declaring it. Ron posted a weak response on his blog for those PKG members who had not heard of the issue.  Currently a criminal trial is scheduled to begin on March 20.  I put the following odds on the outcome:

• 20% of Ron getting an acquittal at trial
• 35% of Ron being convicted at trial
• 35% that Ron will plead guilty to get a lesser sentence
• 10% that Ron will go on the lam

The second outcome is what I prefer.  This would bring into public view the details of what the government alleges, and result in a longer sentence to isolate the End-Time Elijah from his deluded followers.

For the Apostle’s Last Great Day barn burner sermon, he faked out his membership by hinting that Christ would not return next May, and then took it all back, saying he believed more strongly in his Pentecost date.  This took his membership though the emotions of this failure, giving them practice for the real announcement of his failure later this year.  Some members had a very hard time with it.

This was all too much for “ChaCha” and her husband who left the church in October.  ChaCha appeared on this blog in August expressing doubts and cut the cord after Ron’s LGD opus.  Mr. ChaCha had a harder time of it.  Hopefully the next year will have continued recovery and be a much better one for Mr. & Mrs ChaCha.

Kirrily continued her recovery from being a member of Ron’s cult and earlier this year announced that she and her husband are expecting.  We are looking forward to the imminent arrival of her son.  While the new addition likely will result in less participation from her we welcome this change.

Looking forward to this coming year, I prophesy that Christ will not return on Pentecost or any other day.  I am more sure of this than Ron is of the opposite.  (Remember that Ron hedged his bet by paying the property tax on his house on the golf course even though there would be no legal repercussions before Pentecost.)  I am less certain of how this failure will play out in terms of Ron’s response.  If the outcome of his legal situation results in his imprisonment before May, I expect he will declare some kind of timeline change.  If he beats the rap, the recognition of failure will come later.  There is a possibility that Ron will spiritualize the return of Christ as he has other failures such as the non-sounding of the First Trumpet.  And as he did the non-deaths of his mockers and critics.

I predict that Ron will retain a sizable following even after the failure of his prophecies, and this even if he ends up with an extended vacation in Club Fed.  Significant numbers of his followers will leave, and if Ron is isolated in prison more followers will drift away during his imprisonment.

Either way, I expect a need for this blog after Pentecost and plan to renew the web hosting which expires shortly after Pentecost.

I hope the coming year will be better for those involved: the commenters on this blog.  PKG members who will hopefully leave.  Most of all for friends and family members of those still following Ron, as they have no choice.  Happy New Year to all of you. I am leaving Ron and Laura off the list and hope they get some measure of the comeuppance they deserve, which will be less than that called out in Revelation 22.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland visited in Richmond, VA yesterday.  He gave his upcoming schedule adding February 18 in Toronto.  I wonder how it is that he is going to be able to travel there with his passport surrendered to the US Probation office.  He also mentioned that the location of the elders conference last weekend was in Vegas, location hidden so the rank-and-file sheep could not drop in.  The hotel he mentioned was The Palazzo, another 5-diamond hotel next door to the Venetian with shuttles provided.

During the elders conference, Ron announced that people who divorced now would not be allowed to remarry before the “new age” as the time is too short. These people will be in the ministry and government during the “new age” but are not competent to run their own lives. Time is also too short for the 2700 “scattered” to be ordained as Ron has added so much to Armstrongism that they wouldn’t be able to wrap their heads around it.  (The “scattered” are former members of WCG who were baptized in that organization when the First Seal opened at Joe Tkach’s sermon in Atlanta 17 years and 1 week ago.)  So the several hundred elders that Ron has now will have to tough it out to ordain the 10 million people in the US who will join Ron’s church between now and May 27.

Ron doesn’t know what next week’s sermon will be, but has plans for the sermon of Jan 7.  Jan 7 is the end of the 6th of Ron’s 140-day “half-a-time”, each of which he likens to one day of the Israel marching around Jericho.  Perhaps he will explain away the 40 weeks of judgment on the US and other modern day nations of Israel which ends that day.  According to his blog posting of April 1, we’ll be able to relax as God’s judgment will then be focused on the other (gentile) nations.  In the meantime, Ron is amazed at the timing of the calendar this year that puts December 17 on the same day of the week as it was in 1994.

Except that we need to worry about the 5 months of torment which are to happen after the fifth trumpet.  Since tomorrow is exactly 5 months from the non-return of Christ by the Roman calendar.  Taking into account that a “prophetic month” is 30 days, Ron buys a delay until Thursday if you don’t leave any time for the 6th trumpet.  During the feast of 2010, Ron said that 5 months could be the last part of the 1st month and the first part of the 5th month with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in between.  Since Ron’s trial is delayed from January 31st, kind of takes the IRS situation out of the picture.  But Ron has painted a picture that the 5 months of torment was to be administered by the beast power, consisting of 10 European nations led by Germany and the Pope.  The beast power has some serious organizing to do very quickly.

Ron’s sermon was titled “End of Tyranny” (part 1).  The spirit world is stirred up mightily.  Demented attacks are coming from snakes in the grass.  Which includes: unconverted coworkers and family members, mocking websites, and while not mentioned of course the IRS and US prosecutor. It seems that I will have committed the unpardonable sin because I won’t repent and acknowledge Ron as a true prophet of God.

Ron learned a new word “throe”, as in “death throe”, and how to properly spell it (not “throw”).  Despite Ron’s literacy issues, he is an expert at anthropology and knows that the Germans are actually the Assyrians.

Ron, if you really want to end tyranny, then you can help. You asked if your members were experiencing the “oppression of tyranny”.  Indeed they are, and you are the source. End the tyranny you have imposed on your deluded followers.  Admit that you’re making it all up as you go along, at the expense of your deluded followers and their life savings and family relationships.  Set your people free so that they can salvage whatever they can of their lives.

Ron’s sermon was mercifully brought short a half hour early by some sort of technical glitch.  Hopefully his ministry will be mercifully brought short by some sort of glitch, such as being a guest in Club Fed for a period of time.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke this weekend from the luxurious Venetian Resort Hotel & Casino at his International Ministerial Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada.  But he didn’t state his location, so those few members who don’t read my blog don’t know where he is this weekend.  The 29 in attendance would have included: Ron and Laura, Johnny and Myrtle Harrell, Wayne and Chris Matthews, Terry and Ann Wrozek, Scott and Kristina Cameron, Audra and Chris Little, Adrian and Cindy Gray, Steve and Patty Dalrymple, William and Una Milne, Dave and Shelley Conley, Lori Williams, Mitch Williams, Jimmy Carlisle, Willem Henderson, Jim Jamieson, Ralph Dowd, Leonard McGlynn, and Greg Chipps.

Before beginning the sermon, he gave the name of elders newly ordained or promoted since the feast.  The lucky people are: Bert from Hawaii; Keith and Diana Prutsman, and Kathi Wilson from TN; Carla, Shirley, and Daisy from KY, Mike from IN, Amanda Wrozek and Nancy from MI with Greg Chipps promoted to Senior Elder; Parker in CO; Elmira Worth, George, Geneva, and Gabrielle Giles from GA with Paul Giles promoted to elder; Louisa from Manitoba with George Black  promoted to elder; Eric and Kaylee Wiesman from Alberta promoted to elder; Sandy Czech in WA promoted to elder, Sandy and Jimmy in OH, Cindy Gray from New Zealand promoted to elder, and Kristina Cameron from Colby, KS (Ron’s sister) promoted to senior elder.  These elders increase the ranks of those to be tasked with baptizing millions in the US before Christ returns in May.

Ron is looking again at his list of “truths”.  In his sermon, Ron tweaked his 51st truth about his being the end-time Elijah-to-come.  It was two years ago, in December of 2009, when Ron decided that he was the end-time Elijah-to-come supplanting Herbert Armstrong.  (You might find it interesting to follow that link and read several articles describing all the contradictions surrounding the 51st “truth”.) Now Ron has decided that he needed to add two sentences to it, which will be included in the text of the “truth” on the website.  The apostles got much from Christ, but Herbert Armstrong had so much more.  And Ronald Weinland has so many more new revealed, not just restored, truths than Herbert Armstrong.  No doubt Ronald will still be happy to have Christ come on May 27 and take off the pressure by demoting him again.

Seventeen years ago yesterday, Joe Tkach Sr opened the first seal and committed the abomination of desolation in a sermon delivered in Atlanta.  Seventeen years ago this coming Saturday, he reprised the sermon at the church college in Big Sanday, that sermon being the one that was recorded and sent to all WCG congregations and was the one referred to as the “Christmas Eve” sermon (not the one in Atlanta).

Five years ago yesterday, newly ordained elder Kathi Wilson’s son Tony posted the following on the now withdrawn Ambassador Watch blog:

I know alot of you are rambling on and on about mental illness, delusions of grandeur, false prophecies, etc. etc.

I’m a man who knows Ronald Weinland. I’ve known him for multiple years. If there is one thing that I can say about him it is that he is far from insane and he is far from egotistical. In fact Ronald Weinland is one of the most down to earth individuals I’ve ever met.

This whole forum is dedicated to bitterness and frankly it reeks of a spirit not inspired from above. Just look at all the bloated hatred you all spew in every which way. Regardless of your opinion, pro or con, shouldn’t a Christian attitude be one of sympathy and concern instead of bitterness?

A lot of bad things have happened in the various COGs, I’ve spent years researching it and digging to the bottom of it all to wrap my brain around it. Sadly, the history is filled with individuals like those here on this forum dedicated not to any semblance of decency but simply tearing down (and if the truth stands in your way, who cares?)

If you want to talk about his book, why don’t you actually read it so you won’t appear so foolish along with full of blind hatred? You’ll see that he’s not in the same mold as Herbert W. Armstrong- he deviates from a lot of his positions on prophecy. He also addresses the foolish “No man knows the day or the hour” statement (If Christ is opening the seven seals of Revelation, wouldn’t he now know a timeline?)

If you want actual prophecies- read the book. He’s stated very boldly specific individuals are going to die and in what order (Rod Meredith, Richard Ames, Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack, John Ritenbaugh). If that’s not a specific prophecy, what is? And obviously there’s not a whole lot of time to wait for that fulfillment.

And what are you sad tormented souls going to do when your sources of entertainment are gone?

Ronald Weinland is a good and honest man, humble and dedicated to overcoming base human nature (you know, the one epitomized and displayed here by most present). And in the grand scheme of things, does anything else matter but that? Can any of you honestly claim similar?

Well, Tony, as far as whether I’m a good and honest man, I don’t have a horde of ex-cult members and family of current cult members who consider me the opposite of good.  Nor does the government have sufficient doubt of my honesty to indict me for criminal tax fraud.  Can you honestly claim the same about Ronald Weinland?

It’s five years later and none of the five individuals you mention have died.  Five years is a lot more than a whole lot of time for five old men to die to specifically verify God’s own end-time prophet as truly His representative according to the very test he himself defined.  What are you going to do with these revelations?  What are you going to do when Christ doesn’t return as prophesied by your spiritual idol next year on the Memorial Day weekend?

By the way, it was 3 years ago today that Ronald Weinland reissued his death curse against anyone who would mock him.  Here I am, still mocking away.  Since then, Ron has spiritualized the deaths of his mockers.  Personally,  I feel exactly the same spiritually.