Odds & Ends
Wednesday, January 18th, 2012Last week was pretty active on this blog with both False Prophet Ronald Weinland and his most public critic (yours truly) both having media interviews, followed by exposure of at least one and possibly two false very-hour claims by the Insane Lying False Prophet.
On the legal front, the two sides have traded motions, with Weinland’s talented legal team filing a motion for the government to maintain and make available as discovery the original notes from investigatory interviews of Weinland and others. The government responded by providing the notes of the two IRS Special Agents from their confrontation with Ron and Laura on July 2, 2008. (This was on a Wednesday, and in the following Saturday’s sermon Ron talked about “that being” (Satan) being stirred up as the result of his having given the 50th truth sermon, but wouldn’t get into specifics. Now we know). As far as interviews of other people, the government has refused to provide any memorandum as discovery since under the federal law and rules of evidence they don’t have to provide this information unless and until a particular witness testifies (that would be testifying with actual words, Laura) in court.
Back to the media front: In Ronnie’s latest blog posting, he writes:
But with our recent advertising, as of today, I have only had a request for three interviews, one of which I turned down because of the attitude of the producer and host at WGN in Chicago (assuredly, one of the first in the Church that was scattered to ever turn down WGN).
As it turns out, I had a hand in the WGN episode. Since Ron has had 4 interviews with talk show host Mike McConnell when he was on WLW in Cincinnati, I thought they both might like to have a fifth interview. I contacted Mike’s producer in December and pointed out Ron’s ad. Mike’s producer was interested and wanted to have him on the program that day (a Thursday). Ron gave Mike’s producer the brush off saying he couldn’t do it that day. So the manifestation of the host’s (Mike McConnell’s) attitude would have been at the time of the last interview, nearly 3 years ago.
Now, although I am Ron’s critic, I am not a stalker and didn’t do this to stir things up. Three weeks after putting out the ad and no interviews, was curious as to what he’d have to say. I thought that Ron might really want the publicity and would be comfortable dealing with Mike McConnell. But I have a feeling that Ron knows that the other Mike also has his number by now. Best to have your interview on a secondary market station with a host who never heard of you and your past failed prophecies so you’d have a recording to post as a sign to your deluded followers. Who instead of asking you about other failed prophecies, would have asked you about your own.
And who knows, might have even been aware of you mixing up your own signs, saying the first trumpet blew in November of 2008 instead of December of 2008, and that the first trumpet is the economy instead exactly one-third of all plant life. And that you predicted “nukular” explosions in US port cities 45-90 days after the blowing of the first trumpet, then changed it to within a year from March of 2009, and immediately waffled saying that God might give a little more time.
I wonder what happened to the third request that he didn’t characterize?
In Ron’s posting last week he said:
As a matter of other dates that God revealed to me, through Jesus Christ, it was given earlier that Trumpets of 2008 was the beginning of the 1335 day count in the Book of Daniel that leads up to the return of Jesus Christ on May 27, 2012.
I wonder if this was the same God who gave him the first timeline? Has God explained why we don’t have jack-booted German soldiers marching down our streets, now less than 5 months before Pentecost? And when this timeline fails, will he find a third God to give him yet another timeline?
I leave you with a few points from someone who was a minister for Herbert Armstrong before Weinland but who isn’t competing with Ron for followers:
- Please do not let Ron Weinland chide you for your lack of faith in his opinions.
- Please understand that the way he sees and filters the Bible through his brain is his opinion.
- Please understand that if you are to ‘prove all things’ then you have no proof that Ron is in touch with God nor God with him in any real way that can be proven.
- Please realize that any real God is not out to trick or deceive you and that these theological disasters in the making is merely due to the lack of wisdom and common sense of your pastor.
- Please give if you must. If that is where your treasure is then let your heart follow, but please use your own common sense and provide for yourself and your own “just in case.” Just in case is not a sin. It is being responsible. You know…’if a man provides not for his own household he is less than an infidel..” or something like that.
- Learn to say directly to Mr. Weinland, should the need arise, “please mind your own business on how I perceive my family responsibilities should this really be the end of the age or really not.”
- Please find a way to disconnect the ring in your nose that Ron has the lead firmly attached to. Follow if you must but follow on your own terms. Ron can never prove to you that his ways alone are God’s ways or that your caution is unbiblical or a total lack of faith. Remember, Ron is actually asking you to have faith in him while he makes it sound like you are denying your faith in God. Apples and oranges…
Dennis Diehl’s entire article can be read on the Banned! blog.