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Mere Words and Promises Aren’t Cuttin’ It Any Longer

Monday, March 16th, 2015

As False Prophet Ronald Weinland finishes his last year in prison, PKG gets smaller and smaller — but probably will not hit zero.

Just this week I received an email from a now former PKG member, having just left this weekend.  Here is his email in it’s entirety with the exception of redacting his last name.  Those PKG members from East coast near Pennsylvania should recognize who it is.

—————-  Bill’s email ———————————–

For Sale: Prophet’s Hovel

Saturday, December 6th, 2014

Audra_frontAlmost 8 years ago in 2007,  Audra moved into her own duplex just a few miles north of where the Two Witnesses live in a home on a golf course. The following year, Audra married Chris Little and settled in for a life of wedded bliss.

But in 2012, Christ failed to heed his second invitation from Ron to return. This meant that instead of being converted to a spirit being at Christ’s return, Ron had to go on trial for criminal tax evasion just a few weeks later. Although Chris attended Ron’s sentencing hearing in November of 2012 and sat beside Audra and about a dozen other church members on the side of the courtroom behind Ron and his 3 high priced attornies, the wedded bliss was about over.

By August of 2013, Chris and Audra were divorced.  Audra quickly recovered from the breakup, reportedly dating even before the ink was placed on the divorce decree and by February of this year was married to Edwin Van Horne.  Since Edwin lives in the Netherlands and reportedly has stable employment, the Van Horne’s live there and Audra comes to the States occasionally to show the flag and be ordained to higher rank in the visiting room at a Federal Correctional Institution.

Audra_entranceSo what to do about the condo?  Around a month ago, it went on the market.  Below is a clip of the realtor information.  Not listed among the selling points is that it is owned by the 3rd ranking prophet of God.  It does mention a short sale.  If what Audra paid matches the $140,000 tax valuation, she’s going to have to come up with some money to be able to sell it at the asking price of $125,000.  Too bad Audra’s prophecy skills don’t cover the decline in the real estate market.
———– Realtor’s description of Property —————————

Incredible unit 3 finished levels, wall of windows. Shower, sep whirlpool bath. Wood burning fireplace. Short sale. Buyer to check schools. Sold as is.

General Information

  • Beds: 2 Bed
  • Price: $125,000
  • Property Type: Single Family Home
  • Stories: 2
  • Baths:2 Full, 2 Half Bath
  • Lot Size: 1,742 Sq Ft Lot
  • Style: Traditional
  • Garage: 1 car garage


  • Bedrooms: 2
  • Master Bedroom Dim: 14 X 13
  • Bedroom-2 Dim: 12 X 11
  • Bedroom 2: 12×11 Level: 2
  • Master Bedroom: 14×13 Level: 2
  • Master Bedroom Features: Wall-to-Wall Carpet, Bath Adjoins, Walk-in Closet, Dressing Area


  • Full Bathrooms: 2
  • Half Bathrooms: 2
  • Bath 1 Features: Shower, Tub

Kitchen and Dining

  • Dining Room Dim: 11 X 10
  • Dining Room: 11×10 Level: 1
  • Dining Room Features: Wall-to-Wall Carpet
  • Formal Dining Room: Yes
  • Kitchen: 13×12 Level: 1
  • Kitchen Features: Vinyl Floor, Wood Cabinets, Pantry, Counter Bar, Walkout

Other rooms

  • Entry Dim: 10 X 4
  • Family Room Dim: 20 X 19
  • Kitchen Dim: 13 X 12
  • Laundry Room Dim: 14 X 13
  • Living Great Rm Dim: 20 X 12
  • Entry: 10×4 Level: 1
  • Entry (Foyer): Wood Floors, Closet, Open Foyer
  • Family Room: Yes
  • Family Room: 20×19 Level: Lower
  • Family Room Features: Wall-to-Wall Carpet, Fireplace, Walkout, Wet Bar
  • Living/Great Room: 20×12 Level: 1
  • Living/Great Room Features: Wall-to-Wall Carpet
  • Rooms: 7
  • Basement Feat: Finished, Walkout, Fireplace, WW Carpet
  • Basement: Full
  • Laundry Room: 14×13 Level: Lower

Interior Features

  • Cable Tv
  • Ceiling Fan
  • Recess Lights
  • Garage Door Opener
  • Attic Storage
  • 220 Volt
  • Possible Short Sale

Building and Construction

  • House Style: Traditional
  • Levels or Stories: 2
  • Construction: Brick
  • Foundation: Poured
  • Roof: Shingle
  • Windows: Insulated, Aluminum
  • Levels: 2 Story

Exterior and Lot Features

  • Patio
  • Deck
  • Views: Woods
  • Lot Square Footage: 1742

Garage and Parking

  • Number of Garage Spaces: 1
  • Garage: Attached, Front, Oversized
  • Parking: Driveway, Off Street

Heating and Cooling

  • Heating: Electric, Heat Pump
  • Cooling: Central Air
  • Fireplaces: 1
  • Fireplace: Wood, Ceramic


  • Water Source: Public
  • Sewer: Public


  • Oven/Range
  • Dishwasher
  • Garbage Disposal
  • Refrigerator
  • Microwave

Deuteronomy 18:20-22; Jeffery’s Story

Wednesday, July 9th, 2014

We have break from False Prophet Ronald Weinlands #2 nonsense,……

Well, Ron’s break was shorter than he promised.  New posting of his reposted July 9, but this post is pinned.  So the repost of Ron’s latest appears below this one.  And this ends my “inset” comment.

…..with a guest post written by Jeffery, a former PKG elder over the Florida area.  Jeffery has participated in the comment section on this blog since late last year.  His resignation email was republished here

Here is Jeffery’s story:

First, I would like to take this moment to thank Mike for this opportunity to present my experience with the notorious Ronald Weinland and “his” church known as CoG-PKG. I also want to thank Mike for his website and all the information he has incorporated into his blog which was a great benefit to me in making my decision to leave CoG-PKG.

I have a history with the Worldwide Church of God that began in 1973. I was a devoted member up to the moment when WCG changed the doctrine of keeping the Sabbath and Holy Days. The year was 1994. It was not until 2001 that I had a growing desire to find the church that I once knew. Of course, this was all done through the Internet. However, I did not make a choice until 2007. My first encounter was with the Restored Church of God led by David Pack. This lasted only a few months. I rejected this church because I found it to be too demanding on one’s life. This frustrated me so I continue my search on the Internet.

I came across Ronald Weinland’s website just after my experience with David Pack.  At first, I was not impressed with Ron’s website. I just wrote it off as being one of those nutty doomsday preachers, not realizing I was correct in my assumption. But eventually I decided to read both of his books.

You have to understand that I was desperate and looking for anything that resembled Mr. Armstrong’s teachings. Because of this desire to be a part of the church again, there was enough of what I recognized of Mr. Armstrong’s teachings that led me to CoG-PKG. I was then hooked and proceeded to become more involved.

Eventually I was able to attend with the Florida group. There were many problems with this group. Such as excessive drinking on the Sabbath and an elder who was a hard core controlling individual and encouraged the excessive drinking as a means to control the younger members who knew no better. I took issue with this and confronted Ron and Johnny about this matter. The next thing I knew I was ordained an elder and took over the affairs of the Florida group. Did this affect me? Yes it did! I become enthralled with the idea of being an elder in God’s Church! To clarify, I always had the desire to be a minister and now, in my pride, I was one!! So, for a period of five years I ran the affairs of the Florida group. Also, I met and had several social engagements with Ron, Laura, Johnny and Myrtle in Florida and Ohio. They knew me and I knew them.

So what led to my departure from CoG-PKG?

Let me interject this first. I have a Bachelor’s Degree in Human Resource Management and Organizational Structure and Behavior. The majority of my career has been in senior management in municipal government. What is the purpose of this information?

To begin, I started to take notice of the lack of qualified individuals in leadership positions. I am referring to individuals who were handpicked (favoritism) by Ron Weinland for leadership positions without having the qualifications or proper training for the position. It became obvious that Ron was the sole authority figure as he did not allow any ordained individuals to have any decisive authority regarding local matters without his prior approval.

That was the first red flag, in that, I had to question why was I an elder and for what purpose? Actually there was a purpose and that was to report to Ron of any bad behavior of a member — in other words, a tattletale! This went against the grain of all my education and experience in government along with my experience in church structure that I was accustomed to in Worldwide Church of God. I came to the conclusion that I was dealing with a micromanaging dictator! This did not set well with me to say the least. This was the beginning of my taking a different view of what CoG-PKG was all about.

However, let me say this: some may think that I was out of line because this was Ron Weinland’s church and I was overstepping my bounds. Not so. I understand government and I know how it functions. CoG-PKG, in my opinion, had all the trappings of a cult! This was the moment when the rose colored glasses hit the ground and shattered!!

But the real failure of Ron Weinland was his second failure of Christ’s return in 2012. I can remember clearly sitting on my patio wondering “why” this event did not happen! Well, to make a long story short, I gave it another year. However, the thrill was gone and I started looking deeper into all the doctrinal changes from what I learned in WCG that Ron claimed to have authority to change.

Let’s start with the proclaiming of being a prophet.  I need to interject here that the questioning of the claim of being a prophet started when I was looking up something in the OT that I came across the eighteenth chapter of Deuteronomy verses 20-22. Let me tell you this! Those verses were burned into my mind and ended the influence of Ron Weinland immediately! Do I think this was an intervention of God? Absolutely!! For me, it was the absolute end of CoG-PKG!! Also, I scrutinized this matter of claiming to be the two witnesses and I was appalled at myself for believing such heresy! At this point, I was done!

Another element in the decision to leave CoG-PKG was the court transcripts of Ron Weinland’s trial. The only two transcripts that I read were the government’s opening statement and the memorandum of sentencing and that was all it took!! Case closed!! It is over and done with!! However, I had a bigger problem to deal with and that was on how to make my exit.

My exit was very trying for me, in that, I knew the effect it would have on the Florida group and my wife Diane. This was very difficult for me to deal with and I knew I had to go. But, as fate would have it, my wife noticed that I no longer read the postings and was very inattentive during sermons and basically ignored everything about CoG-PKG. So, the day came when my wife sat down with me and asked me if I still believed Ron and Laura were who they claimed to be. My answer to her was NO! We had a very long discussion and I told her I would be resigning after Pentecost. Well, my wife did not agree with that and simply stated, “you need to go now”. I jumped at the opportunity and composed my resignation letter and emailed it out to Johnny without any hesitation!!  Do I think that this was God’s intervention again? Absolutely! I was freed to leave CoG-PKG with my wife’s blessings!! BAM, I was out and gone!!!!

In closing, I am sure some of you who knew me or of me are asking yourselves, why is Jeffery posting at this site? This is a fair question to ask. I will tell you this, I strongly believe I am to do this for the reason that a voice must be heard from a source that is credible to some members of CoG-PKG. Is there an element of anger from me? Yes there is, to a point. I speak for myself and from my experience, the Weinlands are charlatans and are heartless to the highest degree! As I see myself, it is my duty to speak out against them and I will do so! Why? Because if the voices are silent then they (Weinlands) will continue in their deceitful activities destroying spiritual lives and marriages for their own selfish gains unchecked!

Jeffery, thank you for sharing your story here on my blog.

I would like to add my own emphasis to what I feel is the main reason for Jeffery’s departure from PKG — a simple read of Deuteronomy 18:20-22 and a reality check.  Ron prophesied, it didn’t happen, he’s a false prophet and you shouldn’t listen to him.  That alone should be enough to choose your exit.  One should not need a website like this with court transcripts from his criminal trial or evidence that he falsified government documents even more than his tax returns (Audra’s marriage certificate).  That stuff is icing on the cake.

It’s not easy to digesting that what you believed is not true.  Grappling with the decision to leave may be slow.  It took Jeffery well over a year to transition out of PKG.  This website is here to whatever extent it can smooth that transition.  But the decision to leave needs to be yours.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22

Sunday, March 2nd, 2014

Haverty has made it official, here’s a lightly redacted copy of his resignation email:


The purpose of this email is to inform you that I am no longer associated with cog-pkg. Please remove my name from the membership and ministry.

My reason for leaving is all contained in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. I no longer accept or support the Weinland’s claims of being God’s appointed prophets and/or witnesses.

The only administrative item to do is for you to make decisions about the scheduled meeting dates (3/22, 4/13, 4/15). Please contact Diane and let me know if I need to cancel any of the above dates.

Please be advised that you or Doris are the only ones I will accept a phone call from for the purpose of transferring responsibilities only.


Jeffery N____ [now ex-elder from Florida]

I believe those in the know will understand who this is from first names and location alone.

For those PKG members who do not read the Bible, leaving it to Ron to read it and explain it to them, here’s what it says in Deuteronomy 18:20-22:

20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?

22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Notice what the verse says.  If you prophesy in the name of the Lord and it doesn’t happen, THEN you have spoken presumptuously.  Ron clearly has done this, and his batting average for prophecy is .000.   Ron twists this verse around, claiming that he didn’t speak presumptuously and therefore is not a false prophet.  Flavor Aid is powerful stuff!!!

Another One Bites the Dust?

Saturday, August 24th, 2013

Commenter “Frank” just left this.  I have no way to authenticate it but believe it to be genuine.  It has been a number of weeks since Terry gave a sermon:


This announcement to the ministry and all the Church is not an easy one. It is one that should be sobering to every person in God’s Church as we have entered this special time of fasting and sanctification. We are in a continuing warfare that will continue until Christ’s return. Indeed, Satan and his spirit realm is highly stirred up and they know their time is getting very short.

Terry Wrozek has been removed from God’s ministry and he has been suspended from the Church until after the Feast. At that time it will be decided if Terry is to be disfellowshipped or whether his suspension can be lifted and he can come back into full fellowship. There are personal matters in Terry’s life that he must address, and he is doing so and has expressed his complete desire to remain in God’s Church. It is our hope and belief that he will be back after the Feast, but he will no longer serve in God’s ministry.

This matter is not an easy one for all who know and love the Wrozek family. Please keep the entire family in your prayers as this is a difficult time for them.

Family: Coming Out of Bondage Pt 1

Wednesday, July 17th, 2013

I missed a posting for last weekend’s sermon because I was busy with family visiting from out of town.  Wayne Matthews filled in for  False Prophet Ronald Weinland who is imprisoned for criminal behavior rather than his kooky religious beliefs.

Wayne reiterated that it is God’s law that man has a carnal mind and only Jesus was exempted.  God lied about the return of Jesus Christ for PKG’s benefit, and it’s satanic to think that God is not fair.

Below is Ron’s weekly posting made earlier today.  Looks like he has access to a copy of Strong’s Concordance, one of his favorite mind-bending tools.

—– Rotten Ronnie’s posting —————

Recently, it was told to me that someone had stated that the “curse” upon women had not yet been lifted because women were still having labor pain when giving birth. This of course is in reference to a new truth that God began to reveal to His Church toward the end of 2009. It is Truth #52 of the “57 Truths.”

Truth #52 states, “God is restoring knowledge concerning the rightful place of women in the family. This involves the start of the greater removal of the curse laid upon women from the beginning which was the result of sin.”

In past sermons and in a post addressing this subject, it has never been stated that women would ever experience a time when labor pain would no longer exist or that God would remove it. Women experiencing labor pain at birth has very little to do with the curses that came upon Adam and Eve after they sinned, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with the 52nd Truth. Although this truth has been addressed in sermons and a post, it would be good to now build upon what has already been covered.

Restoring that Knowledge
From the beginning, when God began to reveal this truth to His Church, it was always in the context of both men and women throughout the world and their coming out of the bondage of spiritual Egypt in the Millennium. As God’s truth spreads into all the world through the establishment of His one true Church and the removal of all other false religions, the rightful place of women, especially in the family, will begin to be restored to the true purpose and beauty God created it to be at the beginning. God has partially begun to restore this in His Church, which is the means of removing the curse (not physical labor pain), just before the Millennium.

It would be good to begin by focusing more closely upon what this truth actually does say as stated within the “57 Truths.”

It states that this truth about women is something God is “restoring knowledge” of, but only within His Church, as the world cannot receive it. The reality and truth is that this knowledge was lost not long after God created Adam and Eve. This knowledge concerned how husbands and wives should “live” toward one another and toward God. It was knowledge based on spiritual law – that which affects the mind and thinking process that can work in harmony with the mind (the word, the ways) of God. This “spiritual process” at work in the mind of mankind requires access to God’s spirit, as God’s spiritual knowledge (of His laws, ways, truth) cannot be seen or sustained in the human mind without God’s spirit and a continuing access to it.

God did not create Adam and Eve and then abandon them as some kind of caveman and cavewoman. God educated them and taught them how to live life. This means they were not left to themselves to have to figure out (decide for themselves) how to live. How people live determines what their experience in life will be like – good or bad, fulfilled or lacking and filled with emptiness, rewarding or suffering loss, joyful or sorrowful, exciting or filled with dread and fear, happy or sad, etc. God’s ways that are contained in His word (His ways, His laws, and His truths) produce (yield) only one way – one result: fullness, joy, excitement, reward, contentment, and happiness in life – true peace.

Once Adam and Eve sinned, they began to “think differently” from what God had given to them as “the way” to think, which was one of unity and agreement with His ways. From that point forward, mankind became “cut off” from a true relationship with God, and the true knowledge of God’s ways became polluted and defiled by mankind’s “own thinking,” which is deciding for oneself what is right and what is wrong. God’s own words as the only true source of the right ways of life were rejected – God was rejected. That is the “way of mankind.”

From the beginning, mankind became cut off from God – from His spirit. After this, for the next 6,000 years, only those whom God specifically called could come into a relationship with Him and then receive of His word, knowledge, truth, and of how to live life His way. But even in this, God has only progressively revealed His ways in an increasing manner through time, as He has been leading mankind back into the kind of relationship they could have with Him and one another, just as it was given in the beginning.

From Adam and Eve and up through the next 6,000 years, God has worked to bring mankind into the millennial reign of His Kingdom on earth. It is in this Kingdom that His Son will “restore all things” purposed in the beginning that mankind should have had as the true ways and true knowledge of life. This is why the words of Peter on the Day of Pentecost in 31 AD are so profound and meaningful.

“Repent (Gk. – think differently) therefore and become converted (“changed” – back to becoming what God offered in the beginning) so that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord” (Acts 3:19).

Before quoting the rest of what Peter said, it is important to stop here and explain the word used as “refreshing.” It is from a Greek word meaning “revival” or “the recovery of breath (life).” This is explaining the very process we are covering in this post. Adam and Eve turned away from the “thinking” (mind, word, revelatory thought) of God to their “own thinking” which is what mankind has followed ever since. Mankind judges for himself what he decides is right and wrong. Mankind does not look to God for such true knowledge. God’s plan is about a process of bringing mankind back into a unity and harmony with Him that He offered in the beginning.

So Peter is stating that there is a need for people to “think differently” (repent) than they presently do (selfishly as from their own authority). They are to become “changed” (converted) by doing so ­– by thinking and then living differently, and thereby coming into harmony with God’s ways – living them, which God had given from the beginning. Then their sins (walking contrary to God) will begin to be blotted out. This process is then referred to as a “time of refreshing” that comes from the very presence of God in one’s life.

This word translated as “refreshing” is incredibly meaningful when understood in Greek. Its meaning is also the very context of this post. Upon repentance and becoming changed (converted) by what we are living, we begin to be “revived” – to “recover the life” God offered in the beginning. But even more interesting and meaningful is that this Greek word is from a compound word. The first word means “repetition or reversal.” The other word means “in the past” or “of yesterday.” All this is literally speaking of the need to think differently and to now become changed into what God offered from His very presence “in the past” – in the beginning.

When are those “times” of refreshing that can only come from the presence of the Lord? For the Church over the past 2,000 years, that “time” came for each person when God called them. That “time of refreshing” will come to the whole world in the Millennium.

Repeating Lesson
The misapplied and misappropriated statement quoted in the beginning of this post, coupled with the subject of the 52nd Truth, is the crux of the issue at hand regarding what Peter was preaching on that Day of Pentecost when the Church was born. The greatest lesson in all this is one that has been repeated constantly throughout the history of God’s Church and it all began with Adam and Eve.

In the beginning, in the Garden of Eden, God began to educate mankind in His ways of life. There was much knowledge of God’s ways and purpose to be given, but it was cut short in sin. The first two, who were a married couple – the first parents – were cut off from God. Adam and Eve not only ceased to learn more of that which God had offered to continue to give them, but they began to lose what they had already received.

The example of what happened to Adam and Eve has been repeated constantly throughout the history of God’s Church. However, there is one great difference. Adam and Eve were given access to God’s spirit from the beginning, but in time they made a choice to disobey God and they became cut off from that spiritual life sustaining power that enables mankind to “see” what is of God and to be able to retain it. Once sin entered, their eyes were closed and they could no longer continue in God’s ways.

Since that time, individuals have had to be “called” (invited) into a relationship with God through God’s mercy and grace that is extended to them. Once the Church began, the means for the forgiveness of sin and the greater purpose God was working in mankind (to become Elohim) through the Passover became manifest. Upon being called into God’s Church and receiving the Passover sacrifice into their lives, individuals were given constant and continual access to God’s spirit as they consistently would repent and change. However, there are those who have been tried and tested who would no longer follow God as they reverted back to the old sin of deciding for themselves what is right and wrong about following God. They became cut off from God’s spirit, just as Adam and Eve were cut off from the tree of life. But for someone in the Church to do this, when turning against what God had drawn them to, they multiplied sin upon themselves by not only rejecting God, but by rejecting His sacrifice given to mankind – His Son who became their Passover. The apostle John actually teaches that they become antichrist at such time, and continue to be so unless or until they come to repent of not following where Christ leads. Obviously, this is no small thing with God.

This reveals one of the most important and most basic lessons of life. God’s laws, ways, truth and word are spiritual and can only be learned and sustained by God’s constant spirit – from the presence of the Lord – abiding in one’s life. Sin cuts off that constant flow of God’s spirit, and in the Church one must additionally have consistent repentance and change (conversion) in how one is living (growing spiritually) and applying God’s way of life.

If someone today becomes cut off from God’s spirit, they can no longer hear what they could hear before. The much needed removal of the curse upon women can then be seen as a physical matter of physical labor at childbirth rather than the spiritual result of wrong thinking in the mind that comes from the absence of God’s spirit in the reliance upon self to make decisions in life of right or wrong. Rather than seeing God as their “rock” of safety and protection, people will look to a physical location of Petra for safety and protection. Rather than seeing who the man of sin was in the Apostasy of the Church, people will begin to turn to the identity of the pope being the man of sin or of his being “the antichrist.” This list could go on and on, for these are the kind of things that have happened to people who once had the life of God and Christ abiding in them, but became as Adam and Eve – separated from God’s spirit.

If one encounters sin of which they will not repent or if one ceases to apply what is being learned (taught – as the “57 Truths”), then God’s presence (indwelling) of His spirit will cease to live in that person’s life. They can no longer continue learning what God progressively reveals, but they will quickly begin to lose what was given. A person cannot be sustained in the spiritual truths and ways of God without His spirit dwelling in them. It seems so simple, but when cut off from God’s spirit there is no longer the ability to see what is spiritual – what is from God.

“Repent (think differently) therefore and become converted (changed through transformation) so that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. And He (God) shall send Jesus Christ (once called, both can come to dwell in one’s life), who was preached unto you. Whom the heaven must receive until the restitution of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all the holy prophets since the world began” (Acts 3:19-21).

The “restitution of all things” will come to all mankind through Jesus Christ once the Kingdom of God has been established. This “restitution” in Greek literally means “reconstitution” and is a compound origin meaning to “restore again.” God is going to restore again what He began to give and reveal in the beginning. Through time, God has been progressively restoring truth – His ways and purpose – to mankind for 6,000 years (primarily the 144,000 up to this very end-time). As we are nearly to the end of that period and about to enter the Millennial period, God has been accelerating His restoration of His ways to help prepare and pave “the way” for the restitution of all things in the Millennium.

(Part  2 will be coming some time next week)

Little End

Wednesday, July 10th, 2013

On Monday, the following comment was left on this blog:

To the ministry:

This is a notification to all of you so that you are informed that Audra Weinland has filed for divorce with Chris Little. There is no need for further information than this. However, since Audra is a sr. elder and works directly in the administration of the Church and works with many of you in the ministry, we wanted you to be aware of this. Audra is taking back her last name as Weinland. Her new email address is

As my last email managed to be put on the Internet (which is really no big deal), we would prefer that this email not be passed out to others. You are being asked not to email this information to anyone, but you are certainly free to pass it along as general information to brethren in you personal conversations with them. Due to Audra’s importance in her position in the Church, it is good that brethren also be made aware of this change (but only in personal conversation and not by email).

I found this entry today on a court website:

This is less than 5 years since they were allegedly married in Germany Union, KY on September 9, 2008. A lot has happened in that time: Chris and Audra sat together in the courtroom as daddy was sentenced to federal prison.  And Christ returned on 3 different occasions.  And now the divorce.

Out of the Fire

Tuesday, April 30th, 2013

This last week or so saw several prominent defections from PKG.  There was also a prominent defection last year shortly after the trial, that of Senior Elder Adrian Gray in New Zealand.  His defection was also notable as he went to Clarion Call David Pack’s RCG and a public announcement was made on one of Pack’s websites with a copy of a letter written by Adrian.

But since then Adrian has thought differently and repented of joining RCG.  The public announcement was removed from Pack’s website.

Adrian has recently sent another letter to a number of PKG members, and I have obtained a copy which is reproduced here:

­­­­­­­­­­­————————————————  Adrian Gray’s letter —————-

Hello to PKG Members,

I understand that a considerable number of you are looking into leaving PKG after Pentecost, with this in mind I need to retract a recommendation I made to you about Restored Church of God.

Nearly one year ago I sent a letter to a number of you, in it I strongly recommended  The Restored Church of God as a church that God is working through his ministry.  After attending, listening and watching I have come to the conclusion that just as there are members with Gods spirit in PKG there are also members in Restored with Gods spirit.

But I do have to retract my recommendation to go to Restored, as there are a number of things that do not sit right. Mr Packs focus on members is to get as much cash from them as possible, he uses not going to the place of safety and hellfire for those who do not give all, and laying up your reward in heaven for those who do give all.  A small portion of what I heard:

  • Take out a mortgage on your house and send the cash in to Restored.
  • Time is short sell your assets and send in the cash
  • Have fundraising events and send in the cash.
  • 1st, 2nd, and third tithe, all on the gross.

Any one that was baptized  in PKG did not have a  valid baptism. I know of one ex PKGer that that went to Restored was not allowed to keep Passover as he was baptized in PKG.

They have what they call a splinter pack for any one coming out of a cog.  It is several hundred pages of reading and many hours of sermons, you have to then be in full agreement with it all before attending services. It is mainly pre 86 worldwide teachings with a few changes, this is a type of indoctrination that slowly draws you in, but once in you see it isn’t like worldwide was nor are some of the teachings.  But for most that get to this point it is to late as their minds have been conditioned to D Packs teachings.

Most doctrine is as taught in Worldwide under Mr Armstrong, but not all.  Changes are classed as new understanding. (present truth type of situation)  A lot of mind control takes place, as one ex Philadelphian member said:: this lot are tougher than in Philadelphia under Flurry.  Never having been in Philadelphia I cannot say if that remark was accurate or not but I would not be surprised if it was.

As you may have guessed by now, my wife and I resigned our membership in Restored and are no longer members of that church.

In conclusion I would say that for those of you looking to move on, please take a long hard look at whoever you are going to. (do not just give up, God is still doing a work in many of you)   This in no ways negates what I said about R Weinland being a false prophet,  it just means D Pack is another wolf in sheep’s clothing to watch out for.

Wishing you all the best.

Adrian Gray.


David Pack has been circling PKG like a —-  well, like a pack of sharks.  Hopefully he will not snare any more departing PKG members.  I hope that PKG members will have learned that it’s best to think for themselves, and not let others do it for them.