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Thursday, June 8th, 2017

I’ve been obviously disengaged for some time now.  Received an email request to start a new blog post to keep the comment list from getting too long.  Here it is.  Play nicely.

Take Action

Saturday, September 3rd, 2016

“Take Action” is the name of False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s newest sermon series.  The action he is discussing is a church-wide fast, but not anything Two-Witness like.  There is a mention of heat — but not from fire emanating either from his mouth or the Silent Witness.  Rather, it is a reference to the weather and that now PKG members are allowed to wear more casual clothes when coming before God.

In previous sermons, he has indicated that he will be going to Europe for the feast instead of Australia which he has done in the years 2008 through 2011.  In 2012 he spent the feast in the basement of his mansion on the golf course wearing a GPS ankle bracelet because he had been convicted of criminal tax fraud and was awaiting sentencing.  In 2013, 2014, and 2015 God placed his name on the Terre Haute Federal Correctional Institute where Ron was incarcerated.  This year it seems that he can’t get a visa for New Zealand and Australia because of his conviction with other countries like Canada and the UK also unwilling to have him visit.  No doubt he will soon exercise his Witness power to call down plagues on countries that reject him.

It’s been May since Ron posted on his blog, and April since my last post.  The number of comments on that post has grown to over 300 so this one can be used to continue conversations.

On a personal note, I obviously have been much less involved with this blog although I do monitor what’s going on. I grew up in Armstrongism in the 60s while it was still called the Radio Church of God.  I rejected Armstrongism before Herbie’s Great Tribulation failed to materialize in 1972.  Since then I’ve led my on life including having a family and a successful technical career.  I began blogging in 2008 before the first time Ron’s Great Tribulation failed to start.    This has been an opportunity for me to work through my own personal experiences in Armstrongism and have decided to focus on other things.  I will keep the blog open, and continue to monitor things.  If Ron does something Witness-like I would start up again unless that Witness-like thing is the enforcement of the death curse he issued twice in 2008.

 

An Open Letter to Johnny Harrell

Saturday, April 2nd, 2016

The following was left as a comment by Once An Elder.  Reposting it here for higher visibility.

—— An Open Letter to Johnny Harrell ——————–

Johnny, I know you and you know me. I am writing this letter to you out of friendship and not out of bitterness.

I left pkg approximately two years ago and have no regrets what so ever regarding leaving. It was I that disfellowshipped the Weinlands out of my life and not the other way around. I have not disfellowshipped the members out of my life and that is the truth of the matter. I pray daily for their eyes to be opened and for their understanding to see and understand the lie that is before them, as well as you, and that lie is Weinland.

I know you personally Johnny and I am attempting to understand why you are supporting Wienland and all the falsehoods that he represents. I know you better than you realize. This is not you to be that devoted to Weinland. I know you understand what has written in the Bible to be the absolute Word of God, but yet, you have now chosen to allow a wayward false minister to misled you into believing that this person is authorized to change God’s Written Word as he see fit. This is not you Johnny!

I still value our friendship and would welcome speaking with you again, understanding, that I will have absolutely nothing to do with the Weinlands. As I have stated, I still value our friendship. I understand, in your eyes, to have a restored relationship with me would violate the dictates of Weinland and would have a consequence. In my eyes, that would be a blessing for you.

Johnny, I pray that soon you and the others will finally realize what God is saying in Deut 18:22 concerning Weinland. It bears record of itself.

In closing, I pray daily for you and others to have God open your eyes and understanding to finally see Weinland for what he is. A false prophet. It is not me saying this, it is coming from God’s own words (Deut 18:22)

A friend not an enemy

Searching for a Teacher

Monday, December 28th, 2015

Strangely, people are still considering following Weinland despite the abject failures of all his prophecies.  I received the following email this morning:

Hi Mike,
I have recently been looking at your website on Ron Weinland. He seems sincere and I”ve been thinking of contacting someone. What downside is there to just talking to them? I am well educated and have a firm understanding of religion. I just wanted to give you a chance to explain the cons to this religion and the pros to others you may endorse.
signed,
searching.
Thanks.

“Searching”, here is my answer.  I will be somewhat brief in this post, as there is a wealth of documentation on this blog accumulated over the nearly 8 years that I have been blogging about Weinland.

What downside is there to just talking to them?  If it’s “just talking”, then the first downside is that you will waste that time.  The second downside is that you could be persuaded to follow Ron.  But that probably won’t happen: in the past people who asked too many questions were given the bum’s rush out the door.

Ron Weinland may seem sincere.  But talking-the-talk and walking-the-walk are two different things.  Over the years when his prophecies fail, he madly changes and revises them despite his promise not to do that.  In fact, he’s made so many changes that he has trouble keeping up with the changes needed on his website including his “truths”.   In fact he has come up with the term “Present Truth (TM)”.

I refer you to the admonition of 1 Timothy 3:7 as to the qualifications needed to be an overseer.  Having been convicted of 5 counts of criminal tax evasion, Weinland does not have a good reputation in the world.  His explanations as to his conviction do not wash.  And then there’s the well documented lie in which he told the civil authorities that he performed the wedding ceremony for his daughter on Kentucky soil when the ceremony actually took place in Germany.

As to endorsing other people to follow, I don’t do that nor do I permit others to do that on my website.  I advocate that people should decide for themselves and not turn their thinking over to other people — that can be very expensive as well.  There are other false teachers out there of whom to beware, and most of them do not have a website exposing them.  Don’t look for a teacher, figure things out for yourself and if you do join with one, follow the example of the Bereans.

I’m going to dedicate the comments section of this post for others to answer your questions. To those who would leave comments, here are the guidelines for this post:

  • Address your comments to “Searching”, keeping in mind that he probably doesn’t have a CoG background.
  • One comment per person, unless “Searching” comes on the blog and asks another question.
  • Be brief and to the point.  If your comment fills more than half your monitor, it’s too long and will be rejected.
  • Doctrinal criticisms to be minimized.  Martin, if you can’t keep your points about sons of oil and other doctrines to a minimum, they will be rejected.
  • Leave your comments about current events and other topics on other posts.

 

My Fourth Great Tribulation

Saturday, November 7th, 2015

This post is timed for publication at the minute for sundown in Jerusalem at the start of False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s latest 1260-day period.

This will be the fourth Great Tribulation I’ve experienced.  The first Great Tribulation was the one that began in 1972 leading up to the time that Christ didn’t return on Trumpets of 1975 per the prophesy Herbert Armstrong cleverly had surrogates put out so he could deny it.

The second Great Tribulation began in April of 2008, when Ronald Weinland prophesied “nukular” explosions in US port cities by the following July, but this Great Tribulation didn’t last very long.  Weinland abandoned that timeline just two months later — but without his stopping his preaching in violation of his “If by Pentecost” promise made on March 29, 2008.  Instead, he announced another timeline.

The third Great Tribulation began in December of 2008, with Weinland and the Mrs. traveling to Jerusalem a second time on the tithe-payers’ dime to “begin their jobs as the Two Witnesses”.  But even though Weinland didn’t abandon this timeline, Christ did not return on May 27, 2012. Too bad for Ron because a couple of weeks later he was convicted on 5 counts of criminal tax evasion.

So now we have the start of the fourth Great Tribulation, with an extra 50 days padded in there to make Ron’s date counting come out.   This time Ron isn’t in Jerusalem as he is still an involuntary guest of the Bureau of Prisons residing at the minimum security prison camp in Terre Haute, Indiana.  But maybe he’ll breathe fire on the guards until they release him to take off his lime green jumpsuit and put on his $1500 suit of sackcloth in order to confront world leaders, turn water into blood, and strike the earth with plagues.

Somehow I think this is not the last Great Tribulation I will experience despite my advancing years.

Heart Attack Redux

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2015

According to sources including a comment left on the blog, False Prophet Ronald Weinland suffered a heart attack last Thursday, May 28.  This was not his first heart attack, as he had one on or about August 4, 2005 and was out of commission for 5 weeks recovering from triple bypass heart surgery.  Word is that he returned to prison yesterday and is to have stents put in after he gets stronger.  Some skepticism on that from some quarters.  Perhaps he had urgently needed angioplasty in one area of the heart and they see some other areas that are marginal but not urgent.

Other speculation is that he died already.  And yet other speculation that he will get an early release in 2015.  In answer to both of those, the Bureau of Prisons inmate locator shows him to be incarcerated at Terre Haute FCI with a release date next February 17.  I personally doubt that he will leave the prison system before that date unless it is feet first.  Which I don’t expect.

What I consider more likely is that he would be transferred to a prison hospital, such as the Lexington FMC which is only a couple of hours commute for the Silent Witness from their home on the golf course.

Looking for prophetic significance, August 4, 2005 to May 28, 2015 is exactly 512 weeks.  Which is 2-to-the-ninth-power weeks.  Must be some significance in that.

While some are looking to this as a sign of God punishing Weinland, I don’t see that.  It’s just Weinland with a bad heart.  Herbert Armstrong was a bigger false prophet than Weinland and abused more people.  Weinland never told people to avoid medical care and never a whiff of sexual improprieties.  Armstrong probably evaded more in taxes than Weinland.  Yet Herbert Armstrong died in his own bedroom in his 90’s without having all the plagues of Revelation visited on him.

A few months after Ron’s heart attack in 2005, he announced that he is a biblical character.  Wonder if there will be a redux of that too.  Perhaps Jesus.  Rather doubt it, but if he did I think many of his remaining followers would believe it.

———previously posted ———–

JD left a comment:

People are upset in pkg.  Ron had a massive heart attack last Thursday and people are just finding out and are upset because it has been keep under wraps.  maybe the big wigs think people will start running for the doors if their mighty leader has fallen yet again.    Hmmmmmm maybe Ron is one of the ones who is scheduled to die for not repenting.  Has to start somewhere.

I’ll try to have more information later.

Did Not Leave Because of the Coffee

Saturday, March 28th, 2015

Here is as its own post a comment left earlier this morning.  In the past I have posted copies of such letters without revealing full names, but since Donna chose to leave her full name in the comment it is repeated here.

——————–  Donna’s comment ———————————–

Hi to all,
I have not been on here for awhile as I don’t care for people blaming God for what a man has done. We are all responsible for our own actions. GOD IS ALIVE AND WELL! I read the  post of our latest retiree from PKG. I am so glad that there is still hope for some to come to their senses. I did not leave because of the coffee. I am attaching a copy of the letter I sent directly to Ron and Laura. It is a little lengthy but I think it will let some on this blog see that we left for all  the right reasons. Please read to the end, I know it is long.

This is to the Church of God – PKG.  I am removing myself from the membership of this organization. Reasons are as follows.

Ron and Laura Weinland,

You have  proven to me that you are no longer following  the truths of God that were given to us through the scriptures.  I have been searching the scriptures daily for a time now, trying to prove what you are teaching.  I have found no proof for the words that you speak. You have as of the last few years been giving you own interpretation. 2Peter 2:20  (Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is an any private interpretation. (21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.  The words in the Bible are true and right. You cannot make them fit your agenda.  I have tried now for years to believe what you are still preaching even from your prison cell but not one of your prophecies have been fulfilled.

Read what it tells us in Deuteronomy 18:20-22  But the prophet, which shall presume to speak  a word in my name , which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of others gods, even that prophet shall die.  And if thou say in your heart,  How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? When a prophet speaks Sin the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken presumptuously: thou shall  not be afraid of him.

You tell us that when God says we are to turn to the right or left we just do it. Are we not to prove all things?  Yet the Bible tells me in  Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, (meaning is according to the Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance) ( the function or the information-doctrine, learning ,teaching ) by the sleight of man, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive. When is the last time you have told the congregation to open their Bibles and prove all things according to scripture.

I do believe that at one time you spoke the truth, but the truth is no longer in you. You are LAODICEAN, it is still the Laodicean Era. There is no other era mentioned in the Bible. Or do you think that God forgot to put that in there for our edification. When did you forget who you were to be serving? You cannot serve two masters.

When you revealed to the church that Laura was the second witness and said you were the spokesman, it tells us in the Bible that they both speak.  Where is it written in scripture? We are to  prove all things. You have lifted yourself up  and yet you tell me how humble you and Laura are. Yet I see nothing but haughtiness and pride in both of you.  There have been so many lies told that Laura and yourself cannot back track fast enough to cover yourself.  Have you read the scriptures lately as to what is to happen to the false prophets. God does not allow it for very long and I think that your time is over. At least I pray that it is. I pray that people will be able to have the scales removed from their eyes while there is still time. You have deceived God’s people for so long and now they have lifted you and Laura up and made you their idol. Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. can be deceived, even you.

You and Johnny keep telling me if I am  digging in the garbage pit I no longer have God’s  Spirit. Well I am digging in the Bible, is that also what you consider the garbage pit. I have been seeking Gods truth and guidance for a couple of years now and this is where He has lead me. I am not just a dumb sheep following what you say is the truth. I am trying to prove  all things. I am now going to have to go back and prove everything that you have taught. When did the lies begin? That is what I am going to have to look for, the beginning.

I have read most of the trial transcripts on line. I do not consider them garbage as they were given by your  daughter and elders in the church, under oath, right? Did they all lie. I have caught Laura in a number of lies just recently but have tried to overlook them . But that is not what we are told to do. When did money become so important to you and your family that you forsook God? Do you realize how you have hurt the body? Those that have given their tithes and offerings with a willing heart.  And yet you have rewarded those that you and Laura PREFER above others. You give money to just certain ones that you feel are worthy, but there some who are hurting and them you leave out. They are not good enough to be part of your circle. God has always blessed me that I have been able to take care of myself, but there are others who really needed the churches help but they were never given any. Yet they follow you and Laura, just stumbling along hoping for a crumb. But they don’t look to God as their source of peace. I told Laura not too long ago that this is not the Church of Ron. I follow God. I have tried to find truth in your teaching but you have become blinded with the money you stole from God for your own gain. I wish that you would repent but I think that you have sold yourself to something different.

Proverbs 6:16 -19  These are six things that the Lord hates. Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17. A proud look, a lying tongue Hands that shed innocent blood
18. A heart that devices wicked plans,  Feet that are swift in running to evil
19. A false witness  who speaks lies  and one who sows discord among the brethren.

I don’t believe that seeking the truth and telling others to open their Bibles is sowing discord. But there is  nothing that one can say that will help someone to open their eyes. I can save no one but myself as we are told.  I do pray for the body as I think they are deceived but that is between them and God. But I think that there is going to be much blood on your hands. You were to be the head of your family but you listened to a woman. And so it all began! PLEASE  PLEASE  repent for the sake of the body. A man is to be leading his family, what has happened to the ministry?

These are the things that I see in you and in the ministry. You told me that my baptism was not legit because the man who baptized me was not a minister in the WWCG. Yet you have woman baptizing and they are not even given the right to speak in church. And I don’t believe that this means a physical place where people worship. You  made women elders so that Laura could collect a pay check. Did you not have enough money at your disposal?  You don’t even counsel for baptizing, were you just  trying to enlarge your numbers.  Was this to make you look good or was it again the money coming in that you and your family squandered on personal pleasure. How much of this do you not want the congregation to know? Is that why you keep threatening the body, is that of God? Do you think He will be pleased with what you have done?

I see where you used the churches money to fund Jeremy’s education. Could I get that to help Ethan further his education. I think that the answer would be no. And yet my son works hard and he would find a job, which is more than what Jeremy has done. As told to me by Laura. Even your daughter is not qualified to do the job she has, it is only because she is family. She is not an accountant. But then an outside accounting firm would not have lied and cheated for you. You would have had to pay your taxes just like I have to do ever year.  Maybe that is where you started to go wrong. Laura talks too much and tells too many stories, each time it has a different twist to it. She is just one of the many gossips in the church, but as I said, just one. Is that not one of the things that God hates? But for her it is okay. And the truth be told, I still love Laura very much. I counted her as a friend but I know she is not sincere. I have heard her talk about so many of the other people in the body. If she is slandering some I know she is doing the same thing with all of us. You have known this for a long time as I know people have brought it to your attention.  You even mentioned it in a sermon at one time. Yet you were not strong enough to rule your own house.

Ron I wonder if you are really that blind or if it is what you choose to believe. I don’t believe that you have the character needed for repentance, at least not that I have ever seen in you, but I hope and pray that you will. Many are called, few are chosen.  There are vessels to honor and some to dishonor. Just as I told Laura that Mr. Tkatch was put in his position in God’s church to do what needed to be done. It was all part of the God’s plan. You know Ron, I have thought on what the Bible tells us about Adam and Eve. Adam was not deceived but he followed his wife. I think the same is true for you. You knew better, but Laura was more important to you than God. Ron, I still love you both as we are commanded but I pray for God to do what He has to do quickly to wake up those that still love God more than they love you and Laura. I pray that you both repent but if not?????

I am still in the body of Christ, as He dwells in me.  Being in a physical organization does not put me in the body.  So says HWA. You have brought shame on the name of God’s church. You carry His name, how do you think He feels? Christ asked if he would find faith when he returns. My faith is in God and His son, NOT in you. You have made the body to believe that their place of safety is in the PKG. Yes, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

So ends my relationship with PKG.  Good luck to you in what is to follow.
Donna Kautz

Mere Words and Promises Aren’t Cuttin’ It Any Longer

Monday, March 16th, 2015

As False Prophet Ronald Weinland finishes his last year in prison, PKG gets smaller and smaller — but probably will not hit zero.

Just this week I received an email from a now former PKG member, having just left this weekend.  Here is his email in it’s entirety with the exception of redacting his last name.  Those PKG members from East coast near Pennsylvania should recognize who it is.

—————-  Bill’s email ———————————–