False Prophet Ronald Weinland

With all the events surrounding the sentencing of False Prophet Ronald Weinland and having a life of my own, I neglected to check on Ron’s property tax payment.  Even though dawn was about to break in the great and terrible Day of the Lord, Ron still paid his property taxes this year in a timely fashion, even getting a 2% discount.  This even though Christ will again return next year really for sure this time next May, well in advance of when he would be evicted for non payment.  Well, it would actually be Laura as Ron will be living the life of ease in Club Fed.  It’s interesting to note that Audra is still in the middle of Ron’s financial dealings, having apparently written the check.

When I visited the Boone County administration building in Burlington on the day of Ron’s sentencing, I also found some interesting facts about Ron’s financial dealings.  I was able to pull up records of Ron’s financing of his mansion on the golf course.

On February 18, 2005, a mortgage for $300,000 was made on his house.  He sold his house in Toledo two months later and may have applied equity from that sale against the mortgage.  This mortgage amount was under 80% of the original tax appraisal of $381,000.  Being under 80% loan-to-value, the mortgage lender allowed Ron to pay property tax directly to the county instead of requiring him to deposit monthly into an impound fund with the lender.

On October 27, 2010, he refinanced his house for $267,100.  Probably he did this to get a lower interest rate, and with a lowered principal.  This new mortgage amount is about 75% of the current (lowered) property tax appraisal of $357,000, which may itself be higher than the appraisal used for the financing.

After the Feast of Tabernacles in 2007 and Last Great Day Total Resolve sermon in which he announced stepped-up advertising for his books, Ron and Laura went on their 10-day Total Resolve Mediterranean Cruise.  During his first sermon following his return, Ron made the following statements:

• “is it Total Resolve, or 50% resolve”?
• “what we do have the ability to do, we’d better do it… We’d better think about what we can do”
• “We’re trying to get a second mortgage right now. “
• “And now I want to get that money that we put in there , because we put a pretty good chunk in there, for our equity, to have a lower interest rate, a lower payment.  So we tossed a whole bunch of equity from another house … we’ve been very blessed over the years.”

After suggesting that seniors get reverse mortgages because they would not be able to pass anything to their grandchildren, he said that he didn’t care about anyone’s attitudes who would point out where he lived and the car he drives (BMW). These statements are in his sermon of October 27, 2007 beginning at around 37 minutes into the  sermon recording and continuing on for about 10 minutes. If you can stomach listening to Ron, you can start earlier in the sermon at around 23 minutes where he describes sending in second tithe since there wouldn’t be an organized feast in 2008.

In his first sermon of 2008, he mentioned that Laura was visiting a bank about refinancing their house, and that the Weinlands were determined to get the equity out.  {Starting around 53 minutes into the sermon recording for Jan 5, 2008).

So while Ron was suggesting that his members send in their life savings, he and his family were on a spending spree, buying 3 BMWs, going on cruises and vacationing in Hawaii and Las Vegas, and otherwise living an affluent lifestyle above their declared income of $70,800. But they were NOT getting all that equity out of their house.

Total Resolve, huh?

On Wednesday, June 13, False Prophet Ronald Weinland had “Convicted Felon” added to his long list of titles when the jury in his criminal trail found him guilty on all five charges with just a few hours of deliberation.  His expensive legal defense team paid for by the church wasted no time on what to do next, instructing Ron to ask for help from his members.  The next day, Ron sent out the following:

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From: “Ron Weinland”
To: elders
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012
Subject: To All in the Ministry

Hello to everyone,

This is being sent out to all elders and I am requesting that you pass along this request to members in your area. This should be sent out in a coordinated manner, so please follow the structure of Church government to make certain that all areas get covered.

My lawyer has asked me to send out a request to Church members. It is not requested that everyone respond, but if you have what you believe is a strong story of what has impacted your life by my ministry, and you feel moved to write about it, please send a letter to the address listed below. The purpose for this is for the use of the lawyer in his appeal to the judge concerning my future sentencing if it comes to that time. This is a normal legal process, but this needs to be done immediately if you are going to participate.

Please first read the new post that should be up sometime tomorrow (Friday). It is in the spirit mentioned in that post that you should write–one that reflects God’s way. We are looking for examples of things that have impacted your life like financial assistance or other assistance, help through teaching that has changed your life in some manner or some counseling that has done the same. Perhaps your statement might be about help in overcoming some problem in marriage, addiction, relationships, etc. Your response should contain specifics, while being specific, and not be long and drawn out.

It is requested that nothing be sent that is critical or an attack against the government or the system, and do NOT proclaim anything about your belief in my innocence, injustice, etc. This needs to be done by way of mail and not e-mail, so it is all the more important that this be done quickly. So when you write these letters, you need to mention my name and what it is that I have done which has influenced your life.

Here is the address where you need to send the letters:

Frost Brown Todd LLC
Attn: Bob Webb
{redacted}

Thanks for your help in this matter.

Our love,
Ron & Laura
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In the posting on his blog that Ron referred to in this email, he stated “We are to pray for those who have engaged in activities against us, who have participated in ridicule and shown disdain toward us. We are to be of a forgiving attitude and remember we were once in those shoes and God has forgiven us. “  I think that he was referring to the IRS Special Agent who investigated him, to the federal prosecutors who brought charges, to the grand jury that indicted him, and to the 12 jurors in his criminal trial who convicted him after deliberating only part of an afternoon.

I doubt that he was referring to yours truly in his blog posting.  Meaning that I’m still even more special than those sealed as part of the 144,000  — I’m part of a smaller cohort of only 7000 — those who die during the first hour of the prophetic Day of the Lord.

But wait: an hour is 1/24th of a day.  Since the day of the Lord is 357 days “ben ha arbayim” between the two evenings of the Pentecosts of 2012 and 2013, then 1/24th of that is a little less than 15 days.  I’ve been cheated!!! At 45 days since the non-return of Christ, we’re now into the 4th prophetic hour in the prophetic day of the Lord, and I’m still here!!!  What gives?

You also have to wonder if Weinland truly believes his prophetic year of the Lord nonsense.  Since Christ is really-really-for-sure-this-time going to return in about 10 months on May 19, why is he going though all this effort to get these character references?  Since the most they would do is reduce his (probably in the 33 to 41 month range) prison sentence  by only a few months, what difference is it going to make since his elder brother Jesus Elohim is going to come like a UFO and spring him from jail?

I wonder if any of my readers would like to describe how Ron Weinland has “impacted your life like financial assistance or other assistance, help through teaching that has changed your life in some manner or some counseling that has done the same.”  Anything that Ron has ” done which has influenced your life”?  I have a feeling that some of you “think differently”.

According to False Prophet Ronald Weinland, this is the moment of Christ’s return.  Maybe the “nukular” weapons went off somewhere else.  But perhaps you can see Christ in the heavens.  But most people, including the Beast Power led by the Catholic Church, will think he’s a UFO.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland made yet another public appearance today following his last public appearance in front of adoring church members in the UK prior to Christ’s returns this coming Saturday at sundown in Jerusalem.  Today’s appearance was before a less friendly audience in US Federal Court.  Accompanying Ronnie was his attorney, Robert C. Webb of the Frost Brown Todd law firm in Lexington, KY.  The criminal trial remains set for June 4 with jury selection to begin after 9:30 AM.

Both the government attorney and Ronnie’s attorney filed motions in limine.  A “motion in limine” is one at the start of the preceding and these motions were filed asking the the court to prevent the opposing party from using particular witnesses or testimony.  The parties have until Friday to settle issues or file additional motions for a possible hearing next week on Wednesday.

Ronnie’s attorney filed the following motions:

• to disallow the IRS special agent who investigated the case to testify as a summary witness as she could actually testify as an expert witness, and furthermore to exclude her testimony as an expert witness on the technicality that the government did not identify her as such before the deadline.
• to prevent the government from using Ronnie’s unconventional and unusual religious views to impeach any witness’s testimony
• to prevent the government from using PKG members or other lay witnesses to identify expenditures made by Weinland

One of those PKG members who might be asked to testify is Johnny Harrell.  Rumor has it that the IRS is investigating Johnny’s and Myrtle’s taxes for the past several years.  And Johnny likely was the other signatory on Ronnie’s Swiss bank accounts which if so would mean that he would have been required to file an annual report on those accounts with the government.

The government also had motions:

• to exclude the expert testimony of a former IRS special agent pointing out that his knowledge was obsolete, having retired in 1999 following the filing of an EEOC complaint coincidentally filed by the case special agent against him as he was her supervisor at the time
• to exclude the testimony of an expert witness as to the fair market value of the church office space in Ronnie’s home on the golf course.  Seems Ronnie has already deducted the cost of his home as a parsonage and the the government is not going along with this attempt at double dipping
• to exclude the testimony of an expert witness as to the fair market value of Jeremy Weinland’s services to the church maintaining the church website
• to exclude the audio recording of the sermon Ronnie delivered in December of 2002 as evidence of the Swiss bank accounts were church and not personal accounts.

There were some gems inside the filings.  Such as this statement about Ronnie’s kids: “Financial documents demonstrate the Defendant paid for some of the living expenses of his adult children and was reimbursed by the church. Jeremy’s educational expenses, a luxury automobile, and other expenses were paid, in part, in this manner.” There was a mention of church members employed by the church: “In addition, the United States is aware of other persons who performed computer, website, and book related services. Those persons were volunteers, except for the W-2 church employees (Ronald Weinland, Steve Dalrymple, and Audra Little). In 2008, the church paid Gregg Chris as a contractor to provide information technology services.”  That would actually be Greg Chipps, although I thought he was a full-time employee with the princely salary of $36,000/year.  Seems Ronnie did a little creative maneuvering after the IRS opened its investigation:  “The church did issue Jeremy a 1099 that is dated in March 2009 for $16,835.00. This document, like the 1040 the Defendant filed in 2010 for the 2008 year and the 1040X the Defendant filed in 2011, may be evidence of the Defendant’s consciousness of guilt, but it has no bearing on the Defendant’s attempts to evade his tax liabilities in 2008. The 1099 issued to Jeremy was provided in reciprocal discovery. Jeremy, however, lives in Germany and there is no other reliable information that Jeremy was providing contract services to the church in 2008 or at any other time.”

The content of the motions was less significant than the nature of the response.  On January 14, Ronnie stated:

I know we believe that but sometimes people are put to the test as to whether they really believe it, because if you really believe it then you live by it, truly. Think of something I heard this past week that’s… I don’t know if there are very many, but in one particular case, some even ordained, making comment they’re saving certain funds aside in case Jesus Christ doesn’t return on May 27th. I am astounded at such a comment! I am dumbfounded by such a comment! And I think… “What are we holding back and why would we hold anything back? Do we believe this with all of our being, because if we don’t we need to bring ourselves into check and examine ourselves and go back to the sermon we heard at the end of the Feast!” How can you represent God’s way of life? How can you be a part of something so great, so awesome and have such mighty reservations in your mind?

So tell us Ronnie, how much did you hold back to pay your talented law firm to file all those motions for you?  How much did you hold back to pay your expert witnesses?  After all, your trial doesn’t start until June 4, well after you become a member of Elohim.  I am astounded that you would do that.  I am dumfounded that you would do that.

Update: Since making this posting, I see that the Cincinnati Enquirer has an article on the topic, similar to this one.  There ya go Bob and Dixon, you can quote that source so you don’t have to mention mine.

Here we are just 17 days before Ron Weinland’s elder brother Jesus returns to kick rear ends and take names with 7 vials of plagues to be poured out on those who survive World War 3.  Let’s take stock of where we are right now with respect to Ron’s prophecies.

• Thunders 1 through 4: It’s been pretty much the normal pace for disasters, the only one which has even slightly come true is the economy, though we haven’t experienced a global economic collapse.  FAIL!!
• Thunder #5:  We haven’t had a massive die-off within the competing CoGs.  None of the 5 ministers scheduled to die early on to prove Ron as a true prophet of God have obliged by taking a dirt nap, even though he called on that to happen early in 2007.  And one of them, Dave Pack, runs Google ads on searches for Ron’s name attempting to harvest Ron’s disaffected followers.  Other than Michael Jackson and a few minor celebrities back in 2009, we haven’t had an increase in the deaths of notables.  Nor have we experienced the epidemics that Ron prophesied.  FAIL, FAIL, and FAIL.
• Thunder #6:  There is no growing recognition of Ron as prophet.  Despite advertising his availability for interviews in December, he only had one on a small market radio station.  Ron now says the interviews won’t happen until after Christ returns.  FAIL
• Thunder #7: With Ron’s abysmal failures on the first 6 trumpets, recognition of his god isn’t gaining much traction.  FAIL
• Trumpet #5:  Ron prophesied the downfall of the US by the fall of 2008 and certainly by the summer of 2009.  Then he delayed it until August of last year.  In the spring of 2011 he prophesied 40 weeks of judgment on the US.   When the beast power didn’t arise by January, he had to rewrite the Bible to allow the 5 months of torment to precede the 5th trumpet which he has delayed until the last hour before Christ returns.  How many FAILS is that?
• Tithe of the third:  Ron went on an ordaining spree starting at the end of 2009 to hang onto his members, promising them opportunities to baptize millions of people whom he prophesied to join PKG by the end.  They haven’t shown up nor have the 3000 ex-WCG members he prophesied.  Now he says this won’t happen until after Christ returns.  FAIL
• Ron issued a death curse on his mockers to suffer a slow death from the inside.  Then he reissued the death curse calling on his mockers to suffer a speedy death from the inside.  When that didn’t happen, he attempted to spiritualize it saying we suffered internal torment.  Ummm FAIL and………… FAIL!!!!!

Now somewhere, Ron must have prophesied something that would come true.  And I believe he did!!!  He prophesied that there would be mockers.  PASS!!!  The only prophecies that come true are the ones the mockers make come true.

During his sermon this past weekend at which he drank water to rehydrate after a big breakfast while the rest of PKG was fasting, False Prophet Ronald Weinland said:

So again I think about-ah-some of those things. Just toss it out there a little bit, just a little bit. Because I think it’s coming in time, that there are things about the two witnesses that aren’t going to happen the way we thought they were going to happen.

So what could be these things about the two witnesses that aren’t going to happen?  Let’s look in “2008 — God’s Final Witness”:

[pg 89] God is revealing that some will hate these two witnesses so much that they will try to do them bodily harm, even trying to kill them.

I’m not aware of anyone who’s tried to harm or kill either Ron or Laura, or even giving them the bitch-slapping they deserve.

[pg 89 again] Whatever the two witnesses pronounce will come to pass.

During December of 2008, Ron reissued death curses against his mockers, and yet over 3 years later there is no evidence of any of us dying.  Any available evidence indicates the opposite, which the very existence this blog is.

[pg 89 yet again] They will be given power beyond that which Moses was given when he led the Israelites out of Egypt. They, too, will be able to turn the waters to blood. They will be able to close up the heavens so that it will not rain on any area they choose. They will have power to call all manner of plagues upon any part of the earth as often as they choose.

No waters turned to blood.  No droughts resulting from their pronouncements.  No plagues of any sort called down by them. Only a bunch of nonsense on Ron’s blog that he doesn’t mention. Now, where is that super-Moses power?

[pg 91] The Seven Thunders have much to do with how God will reveal His two witnesses. These thunders serve as a prelude to the final tribulation and the greater manifestation of the two witnesses.

Ummm, thunders?  What thunders?  Besides the thunders only PKG members have eyes to see and ears to hear.

[pg 101-102] ….God has left for me to determine as one of His end-time witnesses, who will be given far greater power to pronounce plagues “as often as they will” (Revelation 11:6) in order to help humble mankind so they will repent and turn to God.

Ron, time is getting short — 7  weeks until you die.  You need to get on the stick and pronounce a few plagues to humble us.

[pg 109, speaking of the 6th thunder] The growing manifestation of proof that I am God’s end-time prophet and that I am the spokesman of His two end-time witnesses is a thunder that will become powerfully stronger all the way up until the very return of Jesus Christ.

Really?  Powerfully strong, huh? In which case there must have been hundreds and thousands of people in the listening area of that small AM station in Maryland on which you interviewed a few weeks ago — right?

[pg 109] Radio and television interviews will become more the norm as curiosity, news, controversy, and fear increase in proportion to the growing intensity of these thunders.

And you didn’t need to advertise yourself for that interview, did you?  Ron?  Did you?

[pg 131]God’s two witnesses will be viewed by others (who will hate their message about God) as being responsible for their suffering. The two witnesses will be bringing plagues upon the nations of these two superpowers in order to humble them, but they will not be humbled.

Name one specific plague or natural disaster which you have predicted.  So what are you waiting for?

But here we have the last thing about the two witnesses that won’t happen the way “we” thought it would:

[pg 22] These two prophets of God will complete the work that God has given them to do, then they will be killed in the streets of Jerusalem. Their bodies will remain in the streets of Jerusalem for three and one-half days while the world watches via television.

When Ron spiritualizes the upcoming deaths of himself and his tame second witness, are you going to buy it?

False Prophet Ronald Weinland put up some new timeline charts on his website.  Here is a picture of one of them.

Looking them over, I was reminded of the chart he put up after the 2009 feast.  So I took another look at the older chart.  Of particular interest was the phrase on that chart”(toward the end of this Sabbath day” in reference to Joe Senior’s December 17, 1994 sermon which I must have had in mind in my January 15 posting where I pointed out that the sun had set in Jerusalem by 9:38 AM Eastern Time on that day.  In other statements, such as his latest chart he has used the phrase “to the hour” or “to the very hour” in comparing the time-of-day of Joe’s apostasy to the time-of-day of his death.  Weinland criticized my  9:38 AM sunset time in his February 18 sermon:

I was told of one thing that somebody had written at one point out there.  Totally foolish, backward, ignorant.  They tried to go back and … someone that not of the church <snorts derisively> .. but trying to go back and say “Well it’s like he can’t tell time because sundown on that year that .. he did this apostasy at sundown at a certain time in Jerusalem, and huh huh huh.  They’re way off because it was a certain time of day, and that couldn’t at be at the same hour.”

Totally missed the mark.  How could you be so backward?  How could you not hear?  Anyway, it’s about when he returns.  Do you understand what I’m saying?  It’s not about the day that that happened.  Being the same time in Jerusalem.  That it’s we’re talking about to the hour. ….  When somethings so messed up like that, why even try to explain it.  It’s better just to tell the truth.

Totally messed up, huh?  Ron, what does toward the end of “this Sabbath day”(December 17, 1994) mean?  If you’re going to criticize what I say, at least quote me accurately.  Here is what I posted:

Ron stated that Joe Tkach’s apostasy took place to the hour 13 time 70 weeks before Christ returns.  Ron has scheduled Christ to return at sundown in Jerusalem, which is when God’s day begins.  The time for sunset in Jerusalem on December 17, 1994 was 4:38 PM Israel Standard Time (IST).  IST is UTC +2 hours, while Eastern Standard Time is UTC -5 hours for a 7-hour difference.  So sunset in Jerusalem on 12/17/94 occurred at 9:38 AM Atlanta time.  Was Joseph Tkach speaking at 9:38 AM?

So now who’s the one who’s all messed up?  Back to more of Ronnie’s February 18 statement:

What I like pointing out here is: before the sermon was over that he was giving, and still close to the very midst of it, a little bit farther into it, by the time he’d gone through it,  in the midst of that apostasy sermon the timing of Christ’s return and appearance,  will follow 6370 days later, Jerusalem time, which is near 7:36 PM Jerusalem time.  Sundown on the Sabbath in Jerusalem, when Jesus Christ returns right at that moment when Pentecost begins.

So the point of interest is 7:36 PM Jerusalem time.  Which is 12:36 PM Eastern time (Atlanta time as well).  According to Ronnie’s latest chart, Joe’s sermon was “10 am to 1:30 pm EST” which includes 12:36 PM.  While that’s consistent with the photo of the church bulletin I posted, he has offered no proof of the timing within the sermon when Joe Sr made the defining statement that keeping the sabbath was unnecessary.

In Ronnie’s February 18 sermon, he stated “It’s better just to tell the truth.”  So why don’t you just tell the truth, Ronnie?  Instead, in your latest chart, you repeat the lie “Joe Tkach, Sr.’s death (to the hour)” even after I offered proof that his death was at 2:20 PM Pacific time which is 5:20 PM Eastern/Atlanta time, a full 4 hours and 44 minutes after the time-of-day of the time you scheduled Christ to return.  “To the hour” for Joseph Tkach’s apostasy could match one of these other events but not both of them.  Even if they were to some how match, how would that be significant?  Where does it say that in the Bible?  Except in 1 Ronald Chapter 2 Verse 1260: “It’s significant because I have no prophecy that’s come true so I’m grasping for straws.”

Weinland’s “to the hour” lie is itself relatively unimportant relative to the lie that God reveals truth to him.  And the lie that Christ will return this coming Memorial Day weekend and resurrect the faithful to become members of Elohim.

Other little gems in Ronnie’s latest chart which are inherited from his previous chart.  Such as: “May 30, 1998 After 980 days (“time, times, & 1/2 time”), the Church was reestablished on Pentecost”.  Wrong.  Pentecost that year was on May 31.  And what was the significant event that day that defined the reestablishment of the Church?  Maybe it was Mary Dowd playing the piano as the special “offering” was collected.  Listen to Ron’s sermon (20 MB MP3) on that day and fill me in if he said anything amongst all the blather about reestablishing the church.  BTW, at 34 minutes into the sermon audio he states that the previous day was 3 1/2 years, not that day (Pentecost of ’98).  Just to refresh your memory, Pentecost of ’98 was about a year after Weinland took leave of the United Church of God.  And about a year and a half prior to his booting out the lay church board of his corporation by the simple tactic of disfellowhipping them for not toeing his line.

And this one: “Dec. 14, 2008 – God reveals definition of a “time” being 280 days.”  Wrong, wrong wRonG.  It wasn’t until October 10 of the following year that you pulled out that little gem as an interim explanation as to why the Great Tribulation has not happened.

From “2008 — God’s Final Witness” pages 125 and 126:

At the same time all these events come together at the sounding of the Fifth Trumpet, there will be an initial period of time (five months) when much human suffering will continue as a result of the first four trumpets.  …….  Those of the scattered Church of God, who are tormented during this five-month period, will suffer greatly for their stubborn pride and continued defiance against God….. This five-month period will also be paralleled by millions of people who will begin to repent and seek God.

A prophetic month is 30 days, 5 of those months is 150 days, and 4 of those months is 120 days.  The counter on the right shows how much time remains to fit in trumpets 2 through 4, the five month period of  continued torment and suffering, and the sixth trumpet.  Hmm — less than 4  3 2 months 6 5 4 3 weeks 20 19 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 days 52 47 42 36 30 23 17 14 13 12 5 4 hours now (or less, see the countdown timer at the top of the right column).    How many of the “tithe of a third of the scattering” have joined?  Are millions repenting and seeking PKG elders for baptism?  Oops, that’s delayed, but Weinland has rolled out the lying wonder of 70,000 -7,000 to distract.  And when exactly does the 5th trumpet happen?  After the 5-months? Seems now until the last hour before Christ’s return.  How is all this and a preparation for a criminal trial for tax evasion to fit into the remaining time? Inquiring minds want to know.

But there’s not much left to fit in, anymore. How soon will it be that Weinland spritualizes the return of Christ?

At four hours to go, I’m unsticking this post.  Ron has no public statements of any kind scheduled in the few hours remaining .Note: this post WAS stickied keeping it at the top of my blog until Pentecost unless the 5th trumpet sounds sooner.  Commenting to THIS post is disabled, but commenting remains enabled and welcomed on the other posts which appear below.