Ron’s Commission Recycled

It’s now one week since the Last Great Day.  PKG still doesn’t have a link to the sermon for that day on their website, nor does it have a link to last Saturday’s sermon.

But yesterday they posted the Last Great Day sermon in the PKG YouTube channel.  In it Ron recycled his usual sermon about “this way of life, yada yada”.  He did tell people that the “sealing” has not taken place, now almost 10 years after it first happened early in 2008.

He also talked about his latest book Prophesy Against the Nations.  He doesn’t plan to print paper copies, but has PDF copies on a new website with the URL being the first two words of the book title.  Ron fancies himself to be a search engine optimization (SEO) expert.  He wants his members to perform a Google search on the book title and click on the link every day  — doing that will increase the site rankings in Google.  Now I’m not an SEO expert myself, but do know a little bit about it.  Enough to know that Ron is much, much better at selling false prophecy than he is at SEO.

And he’s telegraphed that there will be a feast next year.  Surprise, surprise.


  • Ruby McCormick says:

    With so little “spiritual food”, next year’s “Feast” will be the Lunch of Tabernacles instead. Blah, de, Blah, Blah.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Just more of the same old dog food.

    However, I am eagerly awaiting the Great Disappointment of June 9, 2019!!!

    tick tock wacky weinland tick tock

  • martin says:

    “He wants his members to perform a Google search on the book title and click on the link every day — doing that will increase the site rankings in Google.”

    This is what one of the Two Witnesses is doing????????????????????????????????????????

    SEO tricks?????????????????????????????? (I am not sure such a trick would even work)

    No breathing fire? No rivers of blood…..?

    But yes to SEO tricks???????


  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I agree with you Martin!

    A BIBLICAL Witness, who should be shocking and awe-ing the world right now, is getting his members to covertly inflate his book numbers (deceit)! This is his great Witness to the world? This is his grand spiritual power. He can’t even do it himself. The numbers can only rise significantly if all of his tiny church pitch in, so he has NO power at all! The “Feast of Tabernacle”: is now just Half Of A Stale Cookie of Tabernacles… and “Witnessing” is small time SEO deception on the Internet.

    I can’t wait for Spring 2019 when Ron will receive his greatest mocking yet!! He is piloting the plane of his life straight into the Lake of Fire! LOL! Look out your windows, PKG passengers, that is not Tallahassee you are descending into…

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… He did tell people that the “sealing” has not taken place, now almost 10 years after it first happened early in 2008 …” Mike

    Whoaaa!! Hold on here!!!

    I was in wacko weinland organization when he stated the sealing of the 144K was done and finished and that Jesus Christ directly informed him of that one!! And That!! these who were members, at that time, were sealed and it would not matter if they sinned because God knew them and it would not matter!!!

    So here we are again!!!! ANOTHER LIE FROM WACKY WEINLAND!!!!!

    The truth of the matter is this: WEINLAND DOESN’T HAVE A CLUE !!! Just keep on lying and misleading is weinland’s game!!!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Also there will be a “Feast of Disappointment” on June 9, 2019 – I can guarantee this one. No need to claim to be a prophet!!

    Keep in mind, the new “weinland lie” is coming and a new date will be set!! No need to claim to be a prophet on this one either!!

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland’s LGD sermon, I believe this is not the same as what was posted before(?)

    Our Commission Moving Forward

    If somebody can tolerate listening to some of it to see what lie he is promoting……..

    Now in the beginning he mentions maybe NOT KNOWING everything, and it is a matter of faith.

    It’s pure horse manure…..

    Yes, sometimes we don’t know it all….BUT, WHEN IT COMES TO TRUE PROPHETS, THIS IS NOT THE CASE.


    (Amo 3:7) Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

    So God says, he won’t do ANYTHING…until his prophet is informed of the matter FIRST, then (presumably) the Prophet informs the people of God’s Will, then God proceeds with His plan….

    According to Ronand Weinland, this is not the case.

  • martin says:

    Is this the youtube video referred to in main blog post above?

  • Enough is Enough says:


    It is obvious that wacky weinland is laying the groundwork for changing the date. I have been expecting this and now it has started. Wacko weinland is running out of time and he must do another lie and change a date.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    That’s the one.

    The PKG website has finally been updated to point to it, but there’s no transcript. Also posted is last Saturday’s sermon given by Johnny.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Martin, yes………it’s the one you’re referring to. Interesting as the one I posted must have been for a regular Saturday sermon? No matter……………as it’s more of the same as it’s loaded with big lies.

    Speaking of lies, here is the sermon that Mike was talking about in his description above. Now Ron must think those in his congregations must have memories of goldfish. It’s very clear in that sermon that he said THE SEALING IS FINISHED!

    So did God (or Jesus Christ) whisper in his ear one night in a dream and say “Pssssst! Ron, Ron, that was all a mistake! NOW is the time the sealing is finished!”

    Good Grief…….you all in PKG are some sad sacks to keep feeding into his BS! 🙁

  • martin says:

    Do you mean in this current LGD sermon he said it is finished again? Or are you referring to the original time he spoke this lie?

    How could it be finished when people are STILL BEING PUT OUT for non-compliance of things?

    Are they UN-sealed now? It seems more people are being UN-sealed than sealed.

  • martin says:

    Lies pour out of this guy’s mouth like water out of a faucet.

    Also it DOES SEEM that most PKGers memories are like a goldfish.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Running out of ORIGINAL titles Johnny?? There’s this sermon here that’s called the same thing.

    I remember it VERY WELL as we were all sitting, hoping, and waiting for Christ to return, only to have one of the biggest letdowns I think I’ve ever experienced.

    Oh, I’m sure the content is quite different (I’m not bothering to waste time listening to it), but the effect is all the same……….Lies, Lies and more Lies!

  • Fooled No More says:

    LOL! Martin, I literally just guffawed out loud to your comment! It’s like Facebook dontcha know??

    You get “friended”, then you get unfriended! Or is that de-friended?? 😀

  • Fooled No More says:

    Martin, the sermon I posted was originally given by Ron in February of 2008. Back then, the “sealing” was supposed to have already been done, but now he says in his latest LGD sermon that WHOOPS………no it’s NOT done yet!

    So which is it?? 2008 was all a big bust as we know…………and now get ready PKG——2019 will be a BIGGER bust as we now have past history of how inconsistent and wrong Ron is.

    Speed the day!

  • martin says:

    I get the feeling that MOST Pkgers KNOW that Ronald Weinland is COMPLETELY WRONG.

    They know this, but are content to stay for whatever reason.

    They are better off at home. The reason? Those that continue to follow a false prophet, KNOWING he is false, are going to end up in the “ditch”. The bible is clear, continue to follow a blind guide, and don’t be surprised where you end up.

  • Enough is Enough says:


    You may be right in some aspect.

    It is the social connections with others that holds them there. That was the most difficult thing for me to deal with. Severing close friendships was an emotional issue. But the realization of this deceitful weinland and all of his lies and thievery was stronger than the social connections. I simply left understanding that the ones I considered close friends would act as though I never existed was emotionally difficult for me to accept.

    It is sad to see and understand this, but, it is a reality that exists within the environs of pkg. And do not kid yourself, weinland knows the psychology of this emotion.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    There’s always the Present Truth(TM). Yesterday’s truth is today’s Fake News.

  • Byker Bob says:

    This social stuff is apparently some good, healthy subversive activity happening behind the backs of the ministry. At least someone is getting some unintended good from being trapped in an ACOG. On some of the other blogs, we keep hearing about rampant abuse of authority, financial malfeasance, and illicit sexual activities in the various splinters. Plus false prophecies that never get fulfilled. And demands for yet even more money.

    If people would only begin to leave en masse, most of the friendships could survive. Once someone feels as if they are being high-hatted or shunned, it’s too late.


  • Enough is Enough says:


    True friendships always survive.

    These friendships that suffer because of a cult master like weinland is tragic! This cult mentality is to “punish” not to reach out and heal the wounded. Weinland understands that once the influence is broken that he (weinland) MUST remove the offender and strip away any connection to his followers.

    Weinland knows he has enemies (ex-members) that he can no longer influence and that is dangerous to him and his organization. His objective is to protect his ill begotten income from those he robs at any and all costs!!! Remove the delusion and weinland becomes very visible and it is not a pretty sight!!!!!!

    However, my door and friendship to those I know is always open to them!! I have chosen the path of forgiveness and not one of fear and selfishness!!

  • Excogger says:

    The sealing of the Gross Thousand may not indeed have a ceiling!
    Then there’s the multitude under the altar: word is that if you begin paying another Tithe, even though you are stuck under the altar, you will receive, in due course, a room upgrade to the level occupied by the 144K.
    At least, that’s what I understand after carefully studying all of the No.1 Human’s dissertations since 2008. Hang in there, all you faithful pkgers – Ron just might deliver….one day….maybe….if you pay him enough….if only you believe everything he says, even though he often contradicts himself or even (Shock, horror!) changes/rewrites on of the 57 Assertions.
    What a theological circus!

  • Excogger says:

    Couldn’t agree more!
    It certainly has been my experience under the HWA regime. We lost so many friends when we resigned and were instantly disfellowshipped, but thankfully have won a few back over the years.
    Armstrongism is parasitic and preys on those who love God and want to serve Him and understand His will for them in this world.

  • martin says:

    Read the whole OT……

    God gives explicit warning to the prophet, He is crystal clear, none of this “we don’t know everything and live by faith horse manure”.

    God gives His secrets to the prophet
    The prophet gives God’s message to the people
    The people are given free choice to obey or not obey
    God acts accordingly.

    A precise fulfillment of the Amos 3:7 pattern every time.

    With Ronald Weinland the false prophet…..”We don’t know”

  • martin says:

    Ron, as God’s most powerful prophet in all of history, may I suggest you re-read the OT.

    I would do a personal bible study on Moses, and see if you can figure out how true prophets operate.

    Whether they know stuff or don’t know stuff, whether they can prophesy accurately or not.

  • Ronco says:

    Ron’s back to blathering again, plus he has new upcoming trips posted. Same old same old!

  • martin says:

    Las Vegas is a pit stop …..yeah, I can guess what he’ll be doing down there….

  • martin says:

    177 people watching now…..hmmm….I wonder if that is a good estimate on the current membership?

  • martin says:

    The PKG members need to ask Ron, where is the so called prophesying against the nations?

    He wrote a book, shouldn’t he put the book he wrote to practice?

    Writing a book that only members are reading (if at all, I think they’ve gotten lazy and may not do this as much anymore), is not prophesying against any nation or nations.

  • Randy terlecki says:

    What’s up asshole Ron and gossip bitch
    You don’t have a clue everything you say is bullshit , your wife is full of shit like you your a crook like the rest of them you need to go back to prison for an other 4 years !!!

  • Ronco says:

    Hi Ron!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:


    You all are going to love this! Our old frenemy Zerubabbel The Blue Tasseled Nitwit has updated us on his current situation:

    1. He had to liquidate 99% of his goat herd to pay a tiny amount on “his” property… which is being foreclosed on.

    2. THE TWO MEN THAT WERE FOLLOWING ZERUBABBEL have left him because they were not on board with Z’s incestuous perversions

    3. Z’s website being shut down due to non-payment is a part of PROPHECY (related to 9/11)! I am not even joking!

    4. Zerubabbel once again states that “God” caused us to not send our money to him, and is causing us to continue NOT BELIEVING Zerubabbel as we continue mock him. Then, with absolutely no IRONY in his voice whatsoever, Zerubabbel says/asks “Why don’t you BELIEVE him ?”…. meaning God, and thus Zerubabbel himself!

    LMAO!! I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when I heard him say it. This complete idiot has no idea he contradicts himself practically every third word! God “made” us not believe, so “why don’t we believe?” LOL! It reminds me of Homer in The Simpsons Movie where he says, “Oh! Why does everyone I whip leave me?”

    No matter how stupid this bumbling nitwit gets, he always finds a new way to steal Defeat from the Jaws of Victory!! LOL!

  • martin says:

    Probably 75 years or so ago, Z would have been committed to an insane asylum.

    While technically not his daughter, isn’t polygamy still illegal? (he calls his wife and daughter in law…wives)

    It tragic that Z believes his own nonsense, but that his wife and daughter seem incapable of seeing through his bull**** is even more tragic.

    I do not fault him for believing differently, I fault him for spewing out utter nonsense, and claiming titles left and right that belong to others (David’s king position among others). No, the guy is a schizoid lunatic.

  • martin says:

    Z’s wife said we couldn’t prove him wrong…

    I would say, prove that he is right, as NOTHING he’s prophesied has come true, not one jot, not one tittle.

    One who claims to be a prophet, and utters a prophecy that fails to come to pass is a false prophet. Z has spoken multiple failed prophecies….really ALL of what he’s said has failed to come to pass. I think this qualifies as being a false prophet.

    True prophets don’t have a good batting average, everything they speak comes to pass perfectly as spoken.

  • martin says:

    Z is doing the numbers dance in his latest video, it’s enough to make a math teacher’s head spin…..

    It all ridiculous nonsense.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Remember… this is the same lunatic that said that JESUS himself PROPHESIED that he, Zerubabbel, would have no place to lay his head! Whatever is going on in Z’s mind certainly has no meaningful relationship with Reality. You can’t get reality through that layers of that kind of stupidity. Even the two delusional dummies that followed Zerubabbel couldn’t stomach his perversion… even THEY left!

    So it looks like Zerubabbel…(who can’t understand how we refuse to give him money after he told us god is making us not giving him money!)… is having trouble keeping his lunacy solvent. The more this chromosomal nitwit trumpets his anti-Christ nonsense the worse his situation gets… and yet he thinks this is a good thing! LOL!

    Honestly… he has mentally devolved so far that I would NOT be surprised if he started having romantic feelings for the remaining nanny-goat in his little camp…

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Do not really care hearing about the sexual deviate “Z”

    What does this have to do with weinland?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Weinland says: “This is an account of what is clearly expected to occur on June 9, 2019…”.

    PROPHECIES ARE NOT “EXPECTATIONS”. LOL! Case Closed: Weinland has already openly admitted June 9, 2019 is a failure (which he always knew). He now has 594 days in which to craft his new Jesus-related lies. A prophet that has ANY doubt? Oh CONald Weinfraud… you are so naked to the world.

    June 9, 2019… I think I will have a mocking party that day…

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    I think hearing about “Z” shows how perverted someone that was taught by Ron really gets. Just think what the rest of the group has to look forward to.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Zerubabbel is the kind of thing that emerges from a Weinland after years of preconditioning by an Armstrong. The average ex-PKGer is just angry or bitter, and rightfully so. It takes decades of HWA and PKG to send someone off to be who Zerubabbel is. Of course, he has Jerusalem Syndrome and malignant narcissism mixed in too, though he only made it to Tel Aviv and not the actual city of Jerusalem itself… thanks to the Israeli police locking him up in a psychiatric ward near the airport for seven hours.

    Weinland/Zerubabbel = two heads on a hydra made of HWA’s own delusions….

  • martin says:

    Weinland says: “This is an account of what is clearly expected to occur on June 9, 2019…”.

    Do you have a timestamp for this?

  • Plimsol says:

    In saying that the sealing of the 144,000 is not yet complete, Ron is doing more than contradicting a previous sermon. He is contradicting the Truths of God.

    Truth 45 and Truth 50 both state that the sealing has been completed. Truth 50, in particular, says it multiple times and at some length.

    Ron currently teaches that at least three of the Truths are not true. 45, 49 (Ron says that God has put the Thunders on hold, which means they have not happened “precisely as foretold”) and 50. 50 is untrue for many reasons, including its statement that God has not yet revealed the date of Christ’s return, and its statement that we are currently awaiting the second year of the Eternal – a revelation from God that Ron now says was never revealed.

    Also Truth 47(I think it is) seems a bit dodgy, because it implies, without actually sta ting, that the great tribulation will begin in November 2015.

    It’s worth pointing this out, because one of the things Ron will say when nothing happens in 2019 is that we still know his is the one true Church, because it has the Truths (in fact he says that at the beginning of the LGD sermon). But the Truths seem somewhat unreliable, to say the least.

  • Fooled no More says:

    Aaaah Plimsol! You just know Ron will come up with the whole “present truth” garbage! So today’s truths are not really truths because well—-they’re not the PRESENT truths at least by next year. Did I get that right???

    No wonder he’s referred to as Wacky Weinland!

  • Enough is Enough says:


    That was a brilliant analysis of wacky weinland’s management of lies!!

    This is what happens over time, the lies become so numerous that they become very difficult to manage.

    Great Job!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey wacko weinland!!!

    Are all of your lies becoming difficult to manage these days!?

    Plimsol just took you apart with all of your misleading truths that are not actually truths at all according to your mouth!! You are just like a timex watch that keeps on ticking except in your case you just keep on lying and misleading!!! That is one hell of a life you are living wacky weinland!!!

    lies lies and more lies!!!!!

  • Randy terlecki says:

    Ron has nothing to do with God , Ron is a lien asshole never in 15 years has one thang happen but stealing your tights !!!!

  • Eric says:

    Ron is trying to weasel out of the 2019 date and carefully removing all references to that date so he can say he never actually committed to that date.

    Yes you did Ron. From your own words –

    “His second book, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, begins to PINPOINT THE TIMING and unfold the remainder of major end-time events, building upon what the first book covered. This book reveals the opening of the Seventh Seal (the last seal to be opened), which occurred in 2008, and reveals the meaning of the Seven Trumpets that are contained in that Seventh Seal. It also reveals the Seven Thunders of Revelation, which John was forbidden to record. However, it also needs to be made clear that ALL INITIAL TIMING mentioned in this book has been moved forward by EXACTLY SEVEN YEARS.

    Thus said the greatest prophet of all time.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Eric, there’s no getting out of this one for Ron! He can deny 2019 all he’d like, but this post here says it all. And as we all know, “The internet never forgets”! 😉

    Now that I’ve shown what his own words are…….don’t be surprised if all of a sudden it “magically” disappears. They’re real slick at trying to cover they’re own tracks, but there’s this little thing with computers called screenshots, and I’m good at doing that!

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland’s “Present Truth” doctrine….it’s blasphemous and hilarious at the same time.

    Ron claims to have gotten this doctrine from the bible, that anybody would remotely believe such a doctrine is very sad. I mean the brain cells must be dying to accept this doctrine.

    Ron (ab)uses this verse
    (2Pe 1:12) Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the *present truth*.

    The verse is NOT supporting the idea that a new present truth is meant to supplant an “old” present truth that has been falsified. The verse is talking about a truth PRESENTLY UNDER DISCUSSION. Not some truth that is supplanting some other truth. THE IDEA IS ABSURD. It means God can’t get truth right, and is constantly supplanting one truth for another truth. It’s a heresy. Ron should be afraid of being turned into a pile of ash for teaching such a monstrous lie.

  • martin says:

    The 2019 date, is based on numerology given to Ron by God Himself.

    So God is using a form of divination (numerology is a popular for of divination it seems, check out Z’s utter nonsense), which God Himself condemns to inform a prophet of His Will. (let’s overlook the miscalculations and illogical reasoning used to come up with the numbers, oh, let’s forget the convenient padding by other numbers to make the calculations come out right…..)

    Sounds absurd?

    It is.

  • martin says:

    Mike put together a nice “chart” listing all the inaccuracies, that God (who apparently can’t do math right) gave to Ronald Weinland. I don’t have the link off hand though…..

  • Ronco says:

    “Ron (ab)uses this verse
    (2Pe 1:12) Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the *present truth*.”

    A closer look at that verse:

    Hi Ron!

  • Plimsol says:


    I don’t think Ron is trying to weasel out of the 2019 date yet. Most of the Feast sermons, and others recently, are predicated on the assumption that Christ’s return is imminent.

    The 2019 date is part of Truth 43, and Truth 47.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Weinland says: “This is an account of what is CLEARLY EXPECTED to occur on June 9, 2019…”.

    Compare the two statements:

    1. “Jesus WILL return on June 9th, 2019”.

    2. “Jesus is clearly expected to return on June 9th, 2019″.

    3. One is certain the other leaves room for doubt. No #1 is a prophecy. No. 32 is a prediction. Isaiah was called a prophet n the Bible not a predictor.

    4. The KEY to true or failed prophecy is CHANGE. If nothing changes at/in a moment that is tied to prophecy, it is not a prophecy… it is/was a prediction and thus inconsequential. If it is inconsequential, then how can it be a prophecy that requires obedience to the prophet or the (supposed) god that gave it?

    5. Ronald Weinland is a False Prophet because all of what he has said has brought about Zero % of the changes he has demanded we believe will occur. Not only that, his non-prophecies, his predictions have been wrong as well. So not only is he 100% not a prophet, he is also 100% wrong as a predictor.

    6. Thus, all prophecy, prediction, and gambling is based on a percentage of CHANGE at the moment of/after the fact.

    7. NOTHING changes any/every time Weinland opens that fecal sluice of his he calls a mouth…

    …”clearly expected” is the phraseology of a weasel…

  • Eric says:

    “As a matter of faith and of seeing a clear, clarified, and completed picture of God’s purpose from the Apostasy to Christ’s return, I do not believe it is possible that this new date has any error or lack of understanding in its calculation (which will be addressed a little later). Having said that, if for any reason the timing were to go beyond this new date in 2019, then we can be certain that God will reveal much more to us in order to give us even greater understanding, just as He has in the past. If indeed this proved to be the case, we would simply continue moving forward, following Him wherever He leads His Church. ”

    I remember leaving a comment in another post where he said something like “I believe it will all my heart that he will come in 2019” but then again left himself an out similar to the above just after it. I have looked for this but can’t find it yet.

    Avalokiteshvara also found an example posted above.

    I think he is leaving an out for himself and will do so increasingly as the date gets closer. These are weasel words to me.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I find it very interesting that this discussion of wacky weinland’s “Great Disappointment of June 9, 2019” has been going on for several months now.

    We are not prophets here but it is extremely easy to “discern” wacky weinland’s false prediction for 2019. It is also understood that wacky weinland is going to either “hype” Christ’s return or he is going to change the date “again”! It is becoming not only apparent but visible that he is laying the groundwork for the “new lie” that will change the date. What a lying jerk he is!!!

    I am looking forward to June 2018 because that is when wacky weinland will have to make his move. Either “hype” the prediction because as a “witness” or “watchman” this is what you are suppose to do or change the date! I may take the opportunity to say that “if” wacko weinland is going to change the date it will happen during the FOT of 2018 which is in the month of September (24-10/1) of 2018 – any bets??

    It will be an enlightening endeavor to watch this one play out!!

    lies lies and more lies!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    He will probably use the “it can all happen in one day” excuse again for the 4th time. He can also even use “it can all happen in the last hour of June 9th” excuse again as well. Either way, he will start weaseling even more, as he is now.

  • martin says:

    There are a LOT of things that happen….

    Can it happen in one day? I don’t think so.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Reality or Scripture or anything at all matter zero to Weinland. One thing matters… keeping as much money rolling in as he can. Thus, he will cheat and lie as much as possible. He was jailed for lying and cheating. Nothing will stop him from doing it until he gets caught again or people just stop giving him money. Nothing else matters.

  • martin says:

    ” Having said that, if for any reason the timing were to go beyond this new date in 2019, then we can be certain that God will reveal much more to us in order to give us even greater understanding, just as He has in the past. ”

    As if.

    Ron (proven thief, proven liar, proven false prophet, proven hedonist…) seems to think God has been working with him him in the past, and is currently working with him…..

    It is absurd to think God works this way, that is, God gives His prophet all this understanding of the timing which CAN’T be in error (it’s from God). But then it turns out to be COMPLETELY FALSE, and then God has to correct Himself and His prophet with new and better and improved understanding.


    And more lunatic to espouse or teach or believe He works this way.

    Your brain cells are DYING if you believe God works this way.

  • martin says:

    Like I’ve said, we’re all human, and our understanding is not always perfect (even the bible supports this).

    BUT with TRUE PROPHETS, the case is different. Now even true prophets are human, but when it comes to giving a prophecy (‘ex cathedra’ if you will), if the prophecy is from God, and God is speaking through a true prophet, to dispence the message to the church or the masses….then the prophecy will happen exactly as spoken….

    Look at Moses…a true prophet….
    1) explicit at to what plague or event will happen
    2) explicit as to who the plague or event will fall upon
    3) explicit as to timing of the event
    4) explicit as to how long plague/event will endure
    5) explicit as to when plague/event/punishment will be lifted.


  • martin says:

    With Ron….it’s “we don’t know, we live by faith”…..sounds biblical, sounds spiritual, sounds ethical.


  • Glad I'm Free says:

    No it’s not, horse manure does have a use, to fertilize the ground. What Ron is doing has no use, to anybody!!!!

  • Randy terlecki says:

    Did I ever say how much I hate these theirs Ron and Laura , FELONE crook lier , just making sure I thought they died in streets Israel ! To bad they didn’t !!!

  • Fooled no More says:

    GIF, at least horse manure’s stink fades over time. Not so with Ron! That funk can be with you for many, many years and never really quite goes away! 😉

  • Randy terlecki says:

    Ron and Laura the assholes are going to die and bury just like the rest of us ,not in no streets of Isreal

  • martin says:

    When Ronald Weinland says there will be a FOT next year, he’s basically saying his prophecy is false.

    How can the PKGers not figure this out?????????????????????????????????

    He KNOWS nothing he’s prophesied, and I mean NOTHING, will come true from now till the next FOT.

    He already knows this, and has basically told the PKGers this when he makes these kinds of announcements.

    Ron could say outloud, have a whole sermon, telling PKGers he’s false and nothings going to happen, and the PKGers whose brain cells are dying, would still follow him.

    Don’t believe me?

    There’s one “christian” pastor that was on the news a few years ago. He explicitly stated to his church he was the anti-christ. And the members still followed him, still believed in him. It’s amazing how dumb people can be. I think he even got “666” tattooed onto himself somewhere, I think on his arm. And the church followers still attended his services.
    Why would they continue to follow a man who said such things????? They should run for the door.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Welcome to the world of insanity and fools

  • martin says:

    Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda:

    “The minister has the number 666 tattooed on his arm.

    But Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda is not your typical minister. De Jesus, or “Daddy” as his thousands of followers call him, does not merely pray to God: He says he is God.

    “The spirit that is in me is the same spirit that was in Jesus of Nazareth,” de Jesus says.

    But even de Jesus concedes that he is an unlikely leader of a church that claims thousands of members in more than 30 countries.

    De Jesus, 61, grew up poor in Puerto Rico. He says he served stints in prison there for petty theft and says he was a heroin addict.

    So far, de Jesus says that his flock hasn’t been scared off by his claims of being the Antichrist….

    A fool and his money and salvation are soon departed it seems…..

    They shouldn’t be surprised when the “reapers” come to gather all anti-Christs to be burnt….

  • martin says:

    Apparently he died of cirrhosis of the liver on November 17 of 2013…so much for his god-hood and divinity.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Conald Weinfraud has cirrhosis of the soul, which has led to sever spiritual scarring of the PKG. Fool them once, shame on Ron. Fool them twice, shame on them. Fool them for YEARS? You really have to want fooled…

  • Randy terlecki says:

    Hahahaha the asshole and gossip Qween are going to Vages and he is telling the old people if they don’t tighted they are stealing from God I wonder how much they are stealing from God ! You rotten no good assholes !!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Fascinating how a CONVICTED TAX FRAUD has a problem with “stealing”…

  • Fooled No More says:

    Ain’t that the truth! It’s like the pot calling the kettle black, or the piss calling the poop “stinky”! 😉

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hummmmmm what happens in Vages stays in Vages.

    We need drones to track this wacky weinland and his whatever sidekick!!!!!

  • FedUp says:


    Interesting thought. Anyone in Vegas? It would be great to know where he gets to in Sin City.

  • Eric says:

    Ron’s made another post on and he has got a new website.

    Its taken the greatest prophet of all time over a year to make his book available on the internet as a single PDF. He is really hastening the work and concerned about warning the world.

    I love this bit from the new website: “Ronald Weinland is the author of three books. These books reveal prophetic end-time events that have been rapidly accelerating over the past 12”.

    What prophetic end time events are happening?

    What’s worse he then cherry picks his prophecies and ihas been focusing on nuclear war becuase that could happen very quickly but that’s only a small part of what he has said. He is conveniently not mentioning all the signposts for the European nations and the USA. Why? because they take time to happen. if he focuses on nuclear war then it could happen at the very last moment.

    How about just one –
    “The heart of Europe thirsts for a revived Europe of old, and God has revealed that they will attain it and become the strongest power the earth has even known”. Conveniently not mentioning this are you.

    The combined armies/navies/air forces of Europe pale in significance to the United states of America. The European union and its much weaker than it has been in the past. This sort of thing can’t happen at the last minute Ron. It tales years and years, if not decades to make a nation the most powerful on the earth. Their is just not enough time before 2019 for this to happen.

    The only thing that is rapidly accelerating is the number of members leaving his church as we get closer to 2019 as they open their eyes and see how rapidly accelerating has turned into slothful idling.

  • Ronco says:

    Ron’s blathering now- only about 80 watching…

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Old nit wit weinland is attempting to recreate the good old days of 2008. What a massive joke this is!!!!

  • Byker Bob says:

    Ron’s just a microcosm for the rest of Armstrongism. All of the splinters adhere to the same basic prophecy mold. Some leaders declare themselves prophets and apostles, and exaggerate more. But, not one of them accepted reality after the great disappointment of 1975. The thing is, you can excite a sense of urgency amongst young people who believe they have their entire lives ahead of them, and want to make sure their families receive supernatural protection. You just can’t build that same level of urgency amongst people in their 70s, 80s, and 90s. Speaking of Vegas, when the bullets rained down at the country music festival, some of the senior citizens laid down on top of the younger people to protect them. People later quoted these seniors as saying things like “I’ve lived my life. You have yours yet ahead of you!” Those are the words of wisdom from the grey demographic, honest, because they were uttered in a life-threatening scenario.

    Armstrongism is burned out. People are beginning to realize that they dedicated their entire lives to an inferior philosophy, whose flagship events have been misswritten into our present times by the clueless followers of a false teacher. It’s not as if any of the splinters are somehow getting it right. There isn’t a single runaway success amongst the lot of them. You’ve got to know that when Dixon Cartwright is shuttering The Journal, a newspaper dedicated to holding it all together, it’s pretty much over. If you like the sabbath, holy days and clean meats, great! Enjoy them with your family. Just don’t expect the prophesies to finally kick in. People have probably made about as much money from teaching those as they’re going to.

    On the other hand, not a bad idea to maintain as low a carbon footprint as possible!


  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Conald Weinfraud has NO idea what he is saying.. and has to completely avoid the Bible to say anything at all. There is NO way Europe produces the army he says it will, what an total moron!

    Revelation 9 states that an army of 200 MILLION horsemen riding fire breathing horses will be running around right before Christ returns. So that means there HAS to be 200 MILLION horses being gathered and prepped for this event. And this is supposed to happen before June 9, 2019? LMAO!

    1. A single horse drink about 7 gallons a day on average.

    2. That is 1.4 BILLION gallons of water a DAY these horses will have to consume to stay alive.

    3. If we just measure the number of days between now and June 9, 2018… that’s over 302 point 4 BILLION gallons of water necessary to keep them alive!!

    4. Where is this water coming from Ron? 1.4 BILLION gallons of water will be around on that SINGLE day you stupid false prophecy will occur?

    Conald Swineland has an IQ that can be measured in potatoes…

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Just a quick thought, are there art auctions that take place in Vegas??

    I wonder if wacky weinland was auctioning off some of his ill-begotten art? If so, then that is a big indicator that the cash flow is drying up!!!

    Does anyone have an answer for this?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    BTW, horses are symbolic of military armored vehicles, tanks, troop transport, etc.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I agree with you, The Bible is all figurative!

  • Byker Bob says:

    Here is the real deal. I’ve been saying for years that Armstrongism only understands perhaps a partial smattering of 2/3 of God. They never have understood the Holy Spirit, which has all sorts of ramifications when you think about it. This is why all of the Armstrongites usurp the role of the Holy Spirit in a Christian’s life and conversion by insisting on their own harsh authority and micro-supervision of members. Isn’t it interesting that for decades, Herbert Armstrong taught that Pentecost, which symbolizes the descent of the Holy Spirit upon Earth and Christians was on the wrong day? It means that there is no way that the Holy Spirit could have inspired all of the prophecies common to the Armstrongite groups, because these were concocted while Pentecost was being kept on the wrong day. Even later, when the day it was observed was corrected, they still kept teaching that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal force, rather than an interactive, sentient being who indwells the hearts and minds of Christians. They continued their harsh and unnecessary authority, making all members miserable rather than able to live a victorious and joyous life. Ron and all the other Armstrongites teachers are incapable of being anything but bogus. It is just not within them to be truthful and righteous teachers.


  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey weinland!! Where are You!!??

    There is a lot happening on the world stage!! Didn’t you say that it would be your responsibility to mange all of these events?

    Well, where are you!!??

    lies lies and more lies

  • Ozymandias says:

    Where is he? Why he’s right there, biding his time, waiting for a rich widow to drop dead. Then, he will move “ headquarters “to Europe to “ be near the kids.” Ron’s hay day is over and he knows it, so it’s just a little waiting game now. He is no different than any COG minister waiting out the time til retirement on the golf course. Taking advantage of well intentioned people who think they need help to be close to God.

  • martin says:

    Eric : “Why? because they take time to happen. if he focuses on nuclear war then it could happen at the very last moment. ”

    It’s not called the 1 Day of Tribulation, it’s supposed be 1260 days long….

    All that happens, as Eric mentioned TAKES TIME…..

    Now, the bible says that the False Prophet/Beast Leader CONTINUES FOR 1260 DAYS….NOT START…..most people miss this important point.

    So what does that mean????? It means they both will exist and rule and be on the world scene BEFORE THE FINAL 3 1/2 YEARS.

    How long is this period? The bible is silent. But all these things take a tremendous amount of effort to bring about and take TIME…..

    If only PKGers could consider that simple little fact, instead they blindly follow Ronald Weinland…Now EVEN RON knew it would take a lot of time for these things to happen, but he aborted all common sense and went with the “it will happen in 1 day” nonsense, because nothing he said was happening, so he opted out for this, because he could draw out his followers up to the last day.

    Then he added a year (The first Day of the Lord)
    nothing happened.
    Then he added another year (another DOTL, but this was the “day”time DOTL, the previous one was the “night”time DOTL….lol isn’t it?)
    nothing happened.

    Then he came up with the 2019 date, based on numerological calculations…..

    Makes sense now?

    I didn’t think so.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… Ron’s hay day is over and he knows it, so it’s just a little waiting game now …” Ozy

    I couldn’t agree with you more Ozy.

    Old old decrepit weinland is just that, old and decrepit!!

    All you hear now is nothing but regurgitation and rehash of all of his previous failures. I have noticed he is staying far far away from HIS “Great Disappointment of June 9, 2019”!! Old old weinland should be sounding all of the trumpets and alarms about that day he has falsely prophesied on. But, you hear nothing at all!! I guess he hasn’t figured out what being a watchman is all about. He is just another loud mouthed failure that everyone has gotten very tired of hearing.

    Time is running out on old old weinland.

  • martin says:

    I don’t know if it’s just me, but I was spot checking his latest youtube video sermon….

    The guy looked nervous and troubled, like he was caught with pants down, and was hoping nobody noticed.

  • Ronco says:

    Hey Ron, how are things in Vegas???

  • Fooled No More says:

    Ron’s latest sermon is “God’s Original True Church Pt. 3”. The COG-PKG is about as original as a dump in the toilet, and we all know what that’s full of! 😉

    Martin, Ron should be VERY nervous about now! Here we are with 2018 nigh on our doorstep, and still there are crickets chirping as far as what he said would be happening about “now”. Interesting how there are things being revealed in the world otherwise that are turning out to be complete frauds.

    Hollywood, Sports, music stars, it’s almost as if was all meant to be happening now, and we see it all in 3D……….Ron’s the latest (and has been for a while) to be exposed as a TOTAL fraud!

  • Ronco says:

    Ron is supposed to be in Vegas and all we get is a pre-recorded service from Wonka Wayne…

  • Eric says:

    In “God’s Original True Church, Part 3” he spent the first 45 minutes basically speaking to his notes and just looking up at the audience occasionally. Very poor presentation style. After that, he seems to pick up a bit. I think his heart is not in it anymore till he talks himself into it. He knows that it is not working out.

    He’s not going to gain any members with a dynamic speaking style that’s for sure.

  • Randy terlecki says:

    Ron and OJ must have went to Vages for a FELONES meeting or reunion!

  • Enough is Enough says:


    I agree with you that old man weinland has lost his “mojo” when it comes to his scheme to defraud those who will give him the time of day. Old man weinland knows that his predicted day of June 9, 2019 is “not” going to happen. He knows this!!!! And I would say that there is a substantial number of his followers are seeing this as well. No doubt, some are already leaving and more will do so as the date of his “Great Disappointment of June 9, 2019” draws closer. Also, his health is failing and the stress of all this will take its toll to the point he will not be able to do it anymore. But, as I have always suspected, his wife is the one who is the driving force behind this fraudulent scheme known as pkg, to the point, of causing her husband failing health!! The only problem is that the scheme has failed and they (weinland) will find themselves with nothing. The entire scheme was all about money and still is!!

    All of his efforts of presenting himself on YouTube and setting up a website for a third book which is nothing more than the same of the first two books which turned to be a load of horse manure has failed to produce the wealth they are seeking!! As Ozy stated, his day has come and gone!! And as the days march towards his Great Disappointment of June 9, 2019 he will be demanding money from those who are left.

    Listen up members of pkg!! Try this, start by reducing your giving of money to support weinland’s lifestyle and watch what will happen. I assure you that weinland will not kick you out because as long as you are sending money in to him he will keep you there but he will try to shame you through his thug elders. It is nothing but empty threats coming from his mouth and his wife’s demand that you pay up!! Have some fun with this and you will see the true color of the weinlands.

    Hey Johnny! Are you still part of this!?

  • Ozymandias says:

    They keep a close eye on who’s tithing what. And I’ve seen a certain someone order a person into the hallway for a chat. Still keeping an eye on rich widows. Even if something happened to Ron , they would take care of Laura. They’re not as broke as people think they are. Always got a little iron in the fire. Don’t underestimate their craftiness, they learned from the best.

  • Eric says:

    Just noticed in the upcoming trips that they are all Ron and the second witness. Nobody else.

  • Excogger says:

    Eric,Ron’s probably economising while he visits Sin City. He needs all the cash he can spare to invest at the blackjack tables. All for the church, of course.
    I’ve read all the New Testament, but so far I am unable to find any Godly people who were gambling and advocated the practice as a means of building good character in individuals. If I was a spiritual leader I would avoid casinos like the plague! Not that I am any “better” than Ron, but it seems his presence at a house of gambling could be seen by some to be setting a poor example to the PKG flock.

  • Enough is Enough says:


    I find that to be interesting to say the least. I look at this in meaning several thoughts:

    1) old man weinland and his sidekick have decided to play act and act out the presence of the two witnesses on the world’s stage. But here is the problem, who are they addressing the world or their own?? If it is their own then it is meaningless. Such play acting will go nowhere!!!

    2) It could be economical as well, paying for others airfares may have disrupted the cash flow to the weinland’s bank accounts. Having the guest travelers pay their own way will not happen. That would probably cut into the weinland’s profit centers (individuals). And finally:

    3) old man weinland’s health may also be a factor. He would not want a guest traveler to see how the exhaustion results in an extended stay in bed. The stress of knowing he has failed again is taking its toll and the weinlands now have to engage in some sort of deception to hold to what they have today. So now it come to “show time” and it will be entertaining to watch!!!!

    lies and deceptions is the name of the game they play

  • martin says:

    I don’t see anything in the news about any man breathing fire in Las Vegas.

    Maybe Ronald Weinland is a false prophet after all(?)

  • martin says:

    Rev 11:3-6
    (3)  And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
    (4)  These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
    (5)  And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
    (6)  These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

    Why do people have difficulty doing this? I are people duped SO EASILY??????

    1) They prophesy
    2) They do so for 1260 days not once a week
    3) The WHOLE WORLD takes notice, otherwise they would not later rejoice at the death of 2 people they didn’t know or were aware of.
    4) The TW’s breath fire
    5) They KILL THEIR ENEMIES (they are in fact commanded to do so)
    6) They can shut the heavens and cause drought
    7) They can turn waters to blood
    8) They can call any amount and variety of other plagues AT THEIR OWN DISCRETION.

    Has Ronald Weinland or his lazy wife done anything remotely close to these things?


  • martin says:

    Ron, if you are reading this….then CLEARLY you are not fulfilling anything.

    Do you want to wait till the “reapers” (angels) come to take all false prophets to be burnt????

    I think, unfortunately you will, you love money too much to give it up now.

    Just because you believe you are one of the TW’s does not make it so.

  • martin says:

    I do notice that the coward Ronald Weinland does not threaten this sites owner or posters with death.

    Why not?

    According to Ron himself (I looked at the greek, and this does seem to be true), in Rev. 11, it says that any that try to “hurt” any one of the TW’s, it is commanded by God, that they be put to death. Ron explained in one post or sermon, I forget where, that “hurt” does not necessarily mean only physically attacked and hurt, that it could also apply to things like insults or angry criticism.

    As I said, this does seem to be implied by the Greek, so I would agree with that interpretation.

    So? Where is the death penalty for all the critical comments made by posters here (and of course elsewhere)????

    Could Ron the Cowardly Lion, realize he has no say or authority or power to do so? I think he realizes it now. He has no power. God has not given it to him.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:


    Speaking of prophecy…

    Our old frenemy Zerubabbel The Completely Insane Not-For-Prophet routinely states that Christians and JEWS (!!) have written the Bible wrong. So whenever quotes Scripture he gets out his Strong’s Concordance or else just wings it and writes what he feels. In his latest video he quotes Micah 4:8 “And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion”…etc, etc. But no, Zerubabbel is not happy with that…

    …go and watch the entire video up to 22:32 and you will explode with laughter once you see the Scripture in context (22:32) with the video, wherein Zerubbabel is calling for young women to join in building God’s Holy Kingdom. It is hilariously repulsive!

  • martin says:

    I don’t know what translation Z is using, I doubt it is any one, it sounds made up and paraphrased.

    Micah 4:8 is “Mic 4:8  And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem. ”

    Where he gets “testicle” from, who knows….he is crazy.

  • martin says:

    Micah 4:8 as read by Z….
    “And you are the tower of the flock and the testicle of the daughter of Zion…”

    You can’t make this stuff up. The guy is certifiably insane. It will take his own death at the hand of angels to make him see how messed up and wrong he is.

    That is tragic.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Zerubabbel makes me laugh so often when I am not shaking my head at his lunacy.

    He often calls Christianity and Judaism “blasphemous”, yet he bases his religion on them!! LOL! If his claims are accurate, then he is tacitly calling himself a blasphemer worshipping his own god (Yahweh. Zerubabbel never fails to contradict and condemn himself sentence by sentence, often word by word! As you all know, I am a complete and total atheist, but I would love to believe in the Bible… in order to see a warrior angel fly down during the Tribulation while Zerubbabel is blabbering about his nonsense and jam a silver spear covered in golden Scriptures straight down Z’s throat.

    Next thing you know Zerubabbbel will be translating Scriptures like this (Matthew 6:25): “Therefore I tell you, do not worry on and for squirrel, for swimming pools give me money and Japan and I am the Walrus tee hee boys are girls you are all doomed I am the King of Tee Hee why don’t you believe they are foreclosing on my goat, OBEY GOD!!

  • Plimsol says:

    Ron has amended the 50th Truth (again). It’s fascinating to watch the devious and completely cynical way he works.

    In the latest post on his website he repeats what he has said recently in sermons, that the 144,000 are not yet all sealed. It’s now clear why he is saying this. He has found a passage in Revelation (7:1-4) which, wrenched out of context, suggests that end time events are held back pending the sealing of the 144,000. He is clearly under pressure to explain why nothing is happening, when he previously said that this time we would have three and a half years of real physical tribulation, as opposed to the spiritual tribulation allegedly previously experience by the church.

    As I pointed out earlier in this thread, the problem with his new story is that it directly contradicts “Truth” 50. (And Truth 45). He had a major problem with 50 anyway, as it said that Christ would return at the end of the second “Day of the Lord”, the timing of which was yet to be revealed.

    In his most recent sermon (God’s Original True Church, Pt. 3) he says (page 14 of the transcript) that one of the Truths “is being tweaked a little bit right now. Not changed, but tweaked, added to”.

    In fact he has completely rewritten, and changed not tweaked, the second half of Truth 50, so that it now says that the 144,000 have NOT yet been sealed. And the second “Day of the Lord” is now the final 50 days before Christ’s return.

    Truth 50 is now a pile of incomprehensible junk, full of sub-clauses, square brackets and bold type, desperately trying but failing to make sense. At one point Truth 50 was about how Christ was returning in 2012. It had a load of stuff at the beginning that said how this would show Ron was right and all the mockers were wrong, which at least made sense in its own terms. But he’s left all that in the new version, so that now all the scoffers and mockers are going to put to shame by, er, the Feast of Trumpets in 2008 being “the last stage for choosing those who are to be in the final sealing.”

    It’s a classic case of Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

  • Enough is Enough says:


    I love the research you are doing. It is terrific!!

    I was in weinland’s gulag when weinland announced that the 144k were sealed and that came directly to him from God and that the Angels, before the Throne of God, were celebrating because now they knew who they would be serving and that CANNOT be changed even if sin was involved, according to weinland, because God KNEW THEM and that was it!!!

    So now it is all turned around and a mess. Weinland is a liar and will stoop to nothing to keep his scam going.

    Lies Lies and More Lies!!! Weinland just keeps on lying and twisting former statements just like a timex watch keeps on ticking!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    weinland’s “GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT OF JUNE 9, 2019” is getting closer and closure and the scramble is on to explain this coming failure!!!!!

    Hey Captain “Hook” weinland!!! Is the ticking clock in that gator’s belly getting closer? Can yo hear it yet? That gator is coming to finish you off and on his back is written the GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT OF JUNE 9, 2019!!!

    You day of doom is coming weinland!! tick tock tick tock

    I await this day with great anticipation to finally to see the end of a lying thief weinland and company. Is the sweat beginning to roll down your bald head liar!?

  • martin says:

    That’s the thing about the truth…

    You don’t have to keep track of it, you don’t have to delete it when nobody is looking, you don’t have to tweak it.

    Lies on the other hand, run around the world.

  • Enough is Enough says:


    My parent’s taught me long long ago how difficult it is to manage lies and mis-truths. It is only a matter of time when you will contradict yourself and the real truth will come out.

    Through out my adult life I have seen this very thing happen many times over. Apparently weinland has not learned this lesson of life and now he is in trouble because his lies are now out of control and any explanation to white wash the lie will only lead to other questions. Plimsol is an excellent example on how easy it is to expose the lie. Weinland is a gross contradiction of a truthful individual.

    I will admit that there were times when I did lie about something and it didn’t take long for it to be exposed. Management of lies is a very very difficult thing to do. Weinland is now realizing that he is trapped in his own lies and is desperately trying to cover them up. Sorry about that weinland it isn’t going to work for you.

    Days of Reckoning are upon you weinland and it will expose you for what you really are – a lying thief!!!!

  • martin says:

    EiE : “Management of lies is a very very difficult thing to do.”

    …should be made into a plaque….

    then glued to Ron’s forehead…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ahhh… Ronald Weinalnd and his ever evolving lies….does this sound familiar Ronnie?

    “THE 144,000 WERE SEALED IN 2008… except they weren’t though I am not wrong because my god has a plan and I am still not wrong and god makes no mistakes and I am not a false prophet because they are sealed again in 2009 for sure… oops! they were not but I am still not wrong and god doesn’t lie because they are now for sure sealed in 2012 because god is for sure right, but there is a new vision for the church because he is changing his mind again and I am not wrong because the 1444, 000 re now unsealed and resealed for 2019 and probably will be unsealed again because though I am not wrong I probably will be wrong because I am always right but I could be wrong because my god is never wrong… save for when he changes his mind and is wrong…which is “right” because he is never wrong… so give me all your money so I can go to Las Vegas!”

    Oh Conald Swineland… your lust for money and love of lies is extremely obvious…

  • Ronco says:

    Hi Ron!!!

  • martin says:

    I know I keep repeating it, but Ron’s ABSURD doctrine about what he terms the Present Truth©, has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. You have to be BRAIN DEAD, to believe this doctrine.

    One of Jesus’ names or terms applied to Him is “The Truth”.

    But Ron has “the truth” as some ever changing ambiguous morphing entity.

    This idea has got to be the biggest pile of horse manure I’ve ever smelt or seen!

  • Ozymandias says:

    This is a pride problem at this point. CLEARLY he is wrong on many levels and yet people stay with him. Everyone is simply too prideful to admit they’re wrong. Most of the ones left are friends of Ron and Laura or they would be gone. Any idiot can see he is full of himself, and just wrong. It takes courage to admit when you’re wrong and they lack the guts to come forward. It’s a group mentality,and they think if they stick together they look like they know what they’re doing. I can say from experience that the vast majority don’t even know what he is talking about at this point.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Well, about 144,000 seals have actually died as a result of the global warming in the Arctic Circle. Maybe that’s what he was babbling on about. But, I’m not sure that it happened in 2,008!


  • Fooled no More says:

    Byker Bob LOL!!! 😀 😀

  • martin says:

    Ronald false prophet Weinland has a new addendum to his book…..

    Prophesy Against the Nations: A Final Commission.

    “For some time now, God has made it clear that major end-time events were indeed being held back and would not begin to be fulfilled until this book was made available on a dedicated site and available in several languages.”

    It’s not that Ron is completely false, it’s God’s fault that things have not happened.

  • martin says:

    Since prophets are supposed to actually prophesy……

    I have to ask, when will Ron actually make and announce a prophetic judgement on anybody/nation?

    You know, like Moses did….Moses said, such and such would happen, on a certain day, to a certain people, and it came to pass.

    With Ron….not so much.

  • martin says:

    Here’s some good news….Z has decided to walk around naked and barefoot for 3 years…

    I hope he does this at the store he shops for groceries.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Oh boy! One of the guys I bowled with several years ago worked in the grocery industry. An employee found feces on the floor one evening in a storage area just inside of some swinging doors leading from the main shopping areas. Security knew that that area was under camera surveillance, so they downloaded the past 24 hours footage from the correct camera. A little old lady entered, looked around, and then hiked her dress up, relieved herself, giggled and left. So, if Zerubbabel is tuned in here, this is a lesson! Be very careful in the grocery store! They’re watching for demented people!


  • Enough is Enough says:

    Like I have stated weinland just keeps on lying like a timex watch keeps on ticking!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Ron stating that the “sealing” hasn’t taken place is yet more super BULL! I know this because when the original “sealing” took place, it was talked about quite a bit among my circle of folks who I had services with, who among us that were in PKG for quite some time, might be one of those sealed.

    Of course we were all speculating……little did we know this was all for naught because such a thing would never take place————-ANYTIME. This was back in the 2011-12 timeframe, so Ron once again is counting on those in PKG to have the memory of goldfish.

    So sad to see those who should remember all of this still want to be duped! 🙁

  • Avalokiteshvara says:


    Wow… if you want to see living evil in progress check out Zerubabbel’s latest video. It is starts out with his usual babble but then he starts sharing his step daughter’s DIARY to show her “wonderful” “progress” towards the “light” i.e. went from doubting what Z said to getting pregnant by him.

    It starts getting dark at 20:40.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:


    Notice how greedy evil pigs like Zerubabbel and Weinland live off the GOVERNMENT through deception and manipulation?

    1. Zerubabbel married a woman who could support his insanity…partially through CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS since this woman has a daughter that is not Z’s.

    2. Recently Z’s step daughter stopped getting child support payments from her biological father, which went toward Z’s hut/camp.

    3. Z’s former “wife” doesn’t do anything and now doesn’t work and is not as deep into him as before.

    4. Oh, what a coincidence! Z now gets the confused and disturbed daughter pregnant so he has further psycho-spiritual control over her and thus she then will do his bidding, i.e. apply for child support and other governmental assistance programs which means he won;t have to work and just continue laying around pretending to be a prophet. THE DAUGHTER is now Z’s game and he will use her to fulfill his sick spiritual fantasies…destroying her in the process….

    5. Her diary is pretty clear evidence he is using her “huge” family dream as bait for his own lazy, delusional goals…

    I’ll bet 9 months from now “Kendra” will be handing “Daddy” her welfare benefits and there will be a new (soon to fail) goat farm…

  • martin says:

    What’s creepy is that she refers to Z as Z!

    I found that tragically funny.

    The whole entire family is mentally ill, and needs help, too bad Z seems to be getting his way.

  • martin says:

    Z is OBSESSED with numbers….his whole shtick with numbers is dizzying, how anybody could follow his rantings is beyond me…..

  • martin says:

    Here is an interesting tool that I played around with….
    It’s a speech to text tool, it’s a pain to setup as you need to install a driver, and it will only work in the Chrome browser, and you also need to have a google account, to use their google doc app, that has a speech to text option….

    I bring this up, because Z does not provide CC for his video, but I wanted to convert some of the audio for his video to text… is not a perfect speech to text conversion, but oddly, it didn’t seem to make a difference, it actually seemed to enhance the content!


    Here is the link for instructions on how to set this up:

  • martin says:

    Here is some of the rambling from his “NAKED & BAREFOOT FOR 3 YEARS” video.

    Z: “The 24th day of the 9th month has brought forth a 16 day countdown to the 10th day of the 10th month the 16 days parallel the 16 days of operation Grapes of Wrath that the most high orchestrated to begin on May 11th 1996 on his servants 8 caliber what’s the events of 9/11 2001 is that we 5 years and 5 months later on or forward 15 Center this pain and time pillow since Isaiah 55:11 signature ring that has put upon my head and then 16 years after 9/11 and to 924 caliber yesterday’s 24th day of the 9th month with 13 days after 9/11 the significance of 13 is it parallel and the 13 laps around Jericho 13 also represents one of the 52 days from mahershala to the 10th day of the 10th month the last one of these 52 days 52 days to build up the wall in the days of Noah and his family 52 years to build the build the boat the significance of the 10th day of the 10th month of the beginning of the Fall of the House of Israel and the death of the Bride of Christianity’s make balloon images of his only begotten son City of the it to the other three dates that hit his were just too it was just opening right of my mouth to come to pass…”

    Doesn’t what he says make sense now?????

  • Avalokiteshvara says:


    That is hilarious. It is better than the garbage that comes from his actual mouth…

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