Take Action

“Take Action” is the name of False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s newest sermon series.  The action he is discussing is a church-wide fast, but not anything Two-Witness like.  There is a mention of heat — but not from fire emanating either from his mouth or the Silent Witness.  Rather, it is a reference to the weather and that now PKG members are allowed to wear more casual clothes when coming before God.

In previous sermons, he has indicated that he will be going to Europe for the feast instead of Australia which he has done in the years 2008 through 2011.  In 2012 he spent the feast in the basement of his mansion on the golf course wearing a GPS ankle bracelet because he had been convicted of criminal tax fraud and was awaiting sentencing.  In 2013, 2014, and 2015 God placed his name on the Terre Haute Federal Correctional Institute where Ron was incarcerated.  This year it seems that he can’t get a visa for New Zealand and Australia because of his conviction with other countries like Canada and the UK also unwilling to have him visit.  No doubt he will soon exercise his Witness power to call down plagues on countries that reject him.

It’s been May since Ron posted on his blog, and April since my last post.  The number of comments on that post has grown to over 300 so this one can be used to continue conversations.

On a personal note, I obviously have been much less involved with this blog although I do monitor what’s going on. I grew up in Armstrongism in the 60s while it was still called the Radio Church of God.  I rejected Armstrongism before Herbie’s Great Tribulation failed to materialize in 1972.  Since then I’ve led my on life including having a family and a successful technical career.  I began blogging in 2008 before the first time Ron’s Great Tribulation failed to start.    This has been an opportunity for me to work through my own personal experiences in Armstrongism and have decided to focus on other things.  I will keep the blog open, and continue to monitor things.  If Ron does something Witness-like I would start up again unless that Witness-like thing is the enforcement of the death curse he issued twice in 2008.

 

462 Comments

  • martin says:

    Maybe Ronald Weinland should listen to his own sermons.

    Did he own up to his choices when he defrauded the government? No.

    Did he take action as one of the TW’s?

    Turn rivers to blood? No.

    Breath fire? No.

    Called down drought? No.

    Prophesy ANYTHING?????? No.

    The amount of moronic logic that comes out of his mouth is truly embarrassing.

    He claims (he waffles on this a lot so it is a toss of the dice most of the time) that the Great Tribulation will happen during the last 50 days AFTER THE 1260 DAYS.

    Well the GT ENDS after 1260 days, Christ RETURNS on the last day of the 1260 days. So how are you going to have the GT during the 50 days after that?

    *** SUCH MORONIC LOGIC AND NONSENSE ***

  • Fooled No More says:

    Well, I was one of those that was in Ron’s “basement” (actually a very nice multi rec-room) when he gave one of the Feast sermons which was in Lexington in ’12. Looking back, I believe now that was the beginning of the end of my relationship with PKG as I was BLOWN AWAY by the things that was in their home. The thought crossed my mind even then for maybe only a second that I’m paying for all this!

    It took awhile (over two years later) to come to the conclusion that things were VERY wrong, and it took some rather severe physical hardships of my own to realize that I very sorely needed to get away from them for good.

    Whatcha wanna bet that this “fast” is for God to hasten this destruction because well, he simply isn’t moving fast enough for Ron and he certainly needs some of those 63,000 to be beating a path to his door?

    Yeah, keep on fasting PKG’ers, keep on giving more of your hard earned money till you reach the point that I did that it was all for naught, and you have a light bulb—–no a bright flare go off in your head that staying with them any longer will could be VERY injurious to your well being mentally, spiritually, and certainly physically!

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Hahaha the asshole and his Gossipping bitch just have to travel,on someone’s dime !!!

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    I can’t belive most PKG’er have noting and these basterd are going over sea’s open up your eyes !!! Every one I know in my mom church are sick or don’t have shit !!!!!!!! Ron and Laura you are sick people using poor people I hope you fall over dead !

  • Fooled No More says:

    Curious that Ron isn’t able to get a Visa to travel. I take it that he’s now able to do air travel even while on probation if said country will have him? That’s very interesting because there’s nothing that stops him from being a “flight risk” and somehow say it’s “God’s Will” that he now reside in Europe do continue in his “work”.

    Very interesting indeed……….

  • martin says:

    Ron did a lot of fudging with numbers to come up with his date for the Second Coming.70 days here 50 days there.

    Problem was, that even with the fudging the math was wrong.

    God is perfect…..Ron not so much.

  • martin says:

    Ron is calling for a fast.

    But for what? For him? For plagues? For thunders?

    It would help to know exactly what one is fasting for.

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    All this talk about fast, and I have a full stomach lol sighhh he will run to Europe if given the chance .But wow when it finally comes back around, the sting will be unbearable, if it isn’t already . Everything in its own time .Life is good pkg should of woken up yesterday . He is on his last breath what could he offer anyone ( shrugz shoulders )

  • martin says:

    Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, AND SHALL(not maybe) shew great signs and wonders;

    DO NOT BE SURPRISED IF RON ACTUALLY DOES PERFORM MIRACLES.

    Except for the fact that his track record is SO BAD, AND SO EMBARRASSING, I would say that he probably would be empowered by demons at some future time.

    Signs + wonders are things seen with the eye, not mental deception. (of course deception is involved)

    This verse is a future event. Those that look to signs and wonders as the only proof will be snared and taken. Signs and wonders only make one a candidate for being a prophet of God, they are not the clinching proof that one is a prophet.

  • martin says:

    They are people who are going to say Christ is in some cave in hiding somewhere.

    The bible says of the Second Coming that Christ will be seen by every eye…(this will of course involve miracles).

    Yet people say such things now and people believe it, and I can only slap my head at the shear lack of common knowledge of the bible.

  • Yes, everyone in the PKG should fast now.

    So God can be prevailed upon to grant Weinland repentance.

    On second thought, it would be a waste of time and damaging to the kidneys.

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Maybe that’s where the asshole got his money hide in Europe, and he won’t come back !!!!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    Yes, let’s all fast and ask God to make Ron right about everything. Only God has his own plan. Sorry Ron, but your chances of being correct have all but sailed. Even 2019 was not your idea, lots of folks preach that one. Looks like you will all have to wait and see what GOD has in mind.

  • martin says:

    Fasting is just one way for Ron to exercise control, it has nothing to do with God.

    It is used to test his control over his members.

  • Ronco says:

    Pardon me, I just don’t know any other way to say it- Please Keep Giving for Fraud’s sake, PKG!!!
    Hi Ron!!!

  • Ruby McCormick says:

    The whole congregation is always fasting by this point, I’m sure. No money for food or medical needs. Sheesh! After leaving the church…ahem – the Cult, my life has gotten back on track. I even own my own antique store. Life is fantastic now! Wake up PKG members! Life does not end after leaving Ronnie and the gang, it BEGINS!

    Ruby

  • Fooled No More says:

    Pardon me, I just don’t know any other way to say it- Please Keep Giving for Fraud’s sake, PKG!!!

    Ronco, I got a hard laugh out of that!!

  • Eric says:

    In 2008 Ron said

    “now is the time to publicly reveal the name of the second end-time witness. It is my wife Laura. We are a family through whom God will be working to bring an end to this age and setting the stage (and much more) for the age to follow. Many will mock and ridicule, but as we go forward, this time God will place fear in those who mock Him and His servants. Power has been given to make this so”

    8 years and four failed predictions later, no fear, no power, and his organisation has dwindled down to a very small and decreasing number of people. Lots of mocking and ridicule from outside. Inside the PKG church even more are starting to see the cracks and are loosing confidence in the 2019 prediction.

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland “Power has been given to make this so”

    Notice “has”, past tense. Not “will”.

    If it had been given, Ron would use it (he is greedy for any kind of power).

    Ron hasn’t, because he hasn’t been given any power whatsoever.

    It is embarrassing and ludicrous to think that the Great Tribulation which started almost a year ago (according to false prophet Ron) would not have anything happen till perhaps the last 50 days of the 1260 days, or the last 50 days AFTER the 1260 days.

  • Ronco says:

    Hey Ron, do you miss your buddy Bubba?

  • James says:

    Don’t blame you for moving on. Running a blog or website in the interest of the public well being wears on you.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Eric said:
    September 7, 2016 at 17:26

    8 years and four failed predictions later, no fear, no power, and his organisation has dwindled down to a very small and decreasing number of people. Lots of mocking and ridicule from outside. Inside the PKG church even more are starting to see the cracks and are loosing confidence in the 2019 prediction.

    You all don’t know how bad I’d like to see the whole church dwindle down to zero! I feel really sorry for those that I knew (or thought I knew) quite well that are “trapped” there and don’t (can’t) see how Ron has been playing them for fools all of this time.

    2019 will come and go without so much as a whimper, and even if something major does happen, it’ll have nothing to do with Ron although he’ll try to spin it that way. There’s just one problem……………There still will be no return of Christ at that time, so if he tries to take credit, he will have failed miserably yet again as God’s “prophet”.

    Remember him giving sermons about how all of this is to appear in the skies?? Should be quite a show come Pentecost ’19 when there will be no show. 😉

  • martin says:

    I loved the moronic idea Ron came up with as an excuse for not dying in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days.

    How he somehow fulfilled it after all, by living for 3 1/2 years.

    Well if it was “spiritual” then it meant that Ron and his wife were spiritually dead for 3 1/2 years.

    Being spiritually dead means that he and his wife were anti-Christ for 3 1/2 years.

    The irony is that this was in fact the case.

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Ron and Laura are spiritually dead, have been since the beginning, not just 3.5 years.

  • FedUp says:

    Ron is going to have to come up with a slight shift in focus if he expects to keep collecting tithes. The whole setting dates thing is wearing thin on people. Won’t be surprised if he announces that God told him to change the focus of his ministry.

  • martin says:

    But Ron calculated that date!

    It can’t be in error!

  • Acts says:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NzSO2IOjmu0

    Jan 7 2012
    “January 8 of this year begins the final “half-a-time” of this full prophetic period known as “time, times, and half-a-time.” That day is the start of the final period of 140 days (half-a-time) that leads up to the very coming of the Messiah spoken of in those same prophecies of Daniel.
    The sermon given to God’s Church on January 7, 2012, that is entitled, “The Final Time,” reveals how God is precise in His timing for fulfilling prophetic events. The Almighty God who set the universe in motion with such precision and skillful work long ago spoke of this time now” False Prophet Ron Weinland

    Sept 25 2012
    “Armies are being gathered together in the Mideast, and they are being gathered together by the only One Almighty Self-existing Eternal God, as He prepares this world for its final battle and the overthrow of every government. Then on the final day of man’s government, May 19 of 2013, God will establish His government, the Kingdom of God that will rule over the earth, bringing it true and lasting peace” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. Matthew 24:24

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Mom says how everyone else lies and Ron the asshole is the biggest lier
    World going to end 4 time
    Him and his bitch are going to die in the streets
    The USA will fall
    He will breath fire
    So on and so on he is full of shit
    Ron you will die and burn in hell asshole
    Now I feel better 🙂

  • Ozymandias says:

    It’s a wonder Ron can even keep his own false dates straight. I’ll bet his head is spinning most of the time.

  • “It’s a wonder Ron can even keep his own false dates straight. I’ll bet his head is spinning most of the time.”

    You mean like that girl in The Exorcist?

  • martin says:

    I know I’ve mentioned it a couple of times….but I do wonder what the reaction would be if Ron suddenly got “empowered” (and not by God).

    He does fit a certain profile….I would not be shocked if he did get empowered.

    Ron is greedy for power, wants all the splinters and their tithes going to him, he want’s notoriety, he wants to perform miraculous wonders, wants to be able to curse his enemies to death…..

    This is description of false prophets in the bible that will perform great signs and wonders.

    It may happen, who knows!??????

  • Martin, oh, who knows?

    At this point it’s likely that not even Satan can tolerate Weinland.

    Too much competition?

  • martin says:

    River of blood. https://www.rt.com/viral/359308-dhaka-blood-river-eid/

    I surprised that Ron hasn’t taken credit for it.

  • Eric says:

    A few excerpts from News Watch 1st Qtr. 2002

    There have always been false ministers, within the environs of the Church, who have gone astray or were never a part of the body. They used the truth in a deceitful way to lead people away from God and toward themselves …. False ministers, who claim that Jesus is the Christ and speak to brethren “using truth,” are very cunning, deceitful and difficult to identify, therefore they have great power to deceive…. Consider what has occurred over the past decade. “Many” ministers have preached the truth that brethren recognize, yet they cunningly slipped in deception as they preached. This has happened with every foundational truth God revealed to us, and many have been devastated by these methods.

    Yes Ron, we know. We have been saying that all along. Thanks for the proof.

    Fortunately many have discovered this about you and left. I think the veil is also starting to lift for many within the PKG as they now don’t look their friends in the eye while talking about 2019. Its like a fog that is very slowly lifting, almost imperceptibly but over time the effect becomes obvious. They may nod and approve vocally when they meet you or email you but they know inside that the confidence that they once had is gone. They know that your 2019 “Prophecy” is not an absolute and you have put cautious provisos on that date and they have been putting cautious provisos in their faith.

    For many now its a “just in case”. The structure of the PKG is weakening from the inside and many will continue to disappear as 2019 gets closer.

  • Acts says:

    Church Site Bio
    October 22 2015
    “From the time of the Apostasy to the return of Jesus Christ on Pentecost of 2019, there will have been 7 prophetic end-time periods of 1,260 days fulfilled. These and many other incredible numerical counts to Christ’s coming are also covered in that third book which will be fully ready for publishing and distribution in 9 languages by early 2016.” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

  • Fooled No More says:

    Acts said:
    September 22, 2016 at 11:07

    Church Site Bio
    October 22 2015
    “From the time of the Apostasy to the return of Jesus Christ on Pentecost of 2019, there will have been 7 prophetic end-time periods of 1,260 days fulfilled. These and many other incredible numerical counts to Christ’s coming are also covered in that third book which will be fully ready for publishing and distribution in 9 languages by early 2016.” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    Really?? Here it is nigh into the end of the year and we’re still waiting! His “Facebook” publishing turned into a real bust as I doubt anyone read it ‘cept for PKG’ers.

    Also, where is this publicist that he was bleating about earlier?? Why hasn’t he or she been able to peddle this “book”?

    The clock is ticking and ticking loudly! 2017 will be here soon enough, and to date, nothing super earth shattering has happened. Yet another tale that was told, and those in PKG are still just sitting there and are either afraid, or just simply refuse to leave despite the fact that Ron has been proven wrong over and over and over and over and over………………

  • Ozymandias says:

    End of the year? No real book in 9 languages ? No publicist ? That’s cause he’s a PHONY! He makes sh** up as he goes along and the PKGERS eat it up. It won’t always be so. One day more of them will realize what he is. Some will stay long afterRon is gone. Something is amiss with most of these people. They really think the last man standing is going to get something. It’s all about getting. Thinking they will rule over all others is a big thing. Nothing works better than convincing people they will be above others. It’s all part of our human nature, and the men that have run the COGs know it.

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Wonder how much cash they slid the asshole and his bitch today !!

  • Eric says:

    Ronald Weinland: Target rich area

    PROPHESY AGAINST THE NATIONS, Chapter 1: November 8, 2015 (almost two years ago)
    “For now, the IMMEDIATE reality is that the world is about to engage in a final world war—World War III (which may well be underway when you read this). That war is going to end in an all-out full-scale nuclear war.”

    2 years later and his statement in the same chapter of the book “You may have been drawn to this book because someone you respect, trust, and/or love has told you that it has real answers to what is currently happening in this world and with a warning that has been given for years about these exact events with uncanny accuracy.” is already making him a laughing stock.

    Uncanny accuracy. That’s not a statement I would associate with any of his books or prophecies.

  • Excogger says:

    Ron has been looking up his Strong’s Concordance again. He found the Hebrew word for “uncanny”, and then, as he often does, discovered an obscure and unusual English meaning for that Hebrew word, looked up the Greek equivalent, which, in this case, is only approximate (but near enough for his purposes), and chose the least-used English translation of that Greek word. And there you have it – a new definition of “uncanny”: zero.
    Makes sense to me.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Ah, these guys are all just like the gold bullion sales people. They lift everything they can, building what looks like a solid wall of evidnce that you need their product. If the end ever does come, it’s would be so big and catastrophic that no preparations or protection could possibly immunize you from the effects. Oh, and your ACOG minister and family? They’ll be the ones f*€king you and yours over so that they are the only ones ending up being protected. And some of the faithful, as they die, will be counting themselves grateful for suffering so that “God’s Apostle” or prophet gets to be spared.

    It’s only you and God, folks. No charlatan middlemen are required!

    BB

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    The asshole no 66,000 people joining him
    No breathing fire
    No bringing down rain
    His bitch still gossips
    Dis guy is such a false prophet
    Down to one feast site
    You are so full of shit Ron it’s coming out your ears give some facts asshole

  • FedUp says:

    Gads, he just so tiresome.

  • Eric says:

    I must have too much time on my hands again.

    Isaiah 8:19

    “And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?”

    What a great description of Ron: He peeps and mutters. Repetitiously.

  • martin says:

    Isn’t he supposed to be correcting the nations? What happened with that???

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Just wondering when is
    2/3 of are vegition going to die
    Are borders getting blowed up
    Are Dallor falling
    66,000 of Armsrtongs chucher going with the asshole
    1,000,000 men army coming
    No more popes since 2000
    Breath fire
    Die in streets of Isreal
    Bring down rain
    All is what happen is the asshole was put in prison for not paying taxes on money he stole and his bitch from his church he spent 3 1/2 in Fedral prison for not pay tax on 4.2 million he stole !

  • hawkeye says:

    randy …all that stuff is going to happen between 3:30 and 4:00 kentucky time …if not today then tomorrow ..if not tomorrow then the next day ..if not ….. well you get the idea

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Hahaha

  • Ozymandias says:

    Wow, what an absolute liar. He just makes it up as he goes along. People don’t really listen very closely do they? Out of his own mouth, finally a prophesy that came true. False prophet.

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Oh and he said Bush W would be last president

  • martin says:

    Almost a year since the Great Tribulation started……

    How anybody can follow this false prophet is about the only amazing thing.

    For PKGERs : You do realize that Ronald Weinland calls himself a false prophet?

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    I laughed just think if the PKG falls and Ron got to go get a job he’s job Resume would say:
    FELONE
    False Prophet
    🙂

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    These people are sure keeping Gods word. In the last month alone, I’ve lost track of the debt collection agencies calling here looking for Gary. Guess he gave all his money to the church. When we were together his family used to complain that I was using him for his money, they never believed I was paying all the bills. Well, they can wise up right along with the church.

  • martin says:

    Notice what Ron’s stance has been….
    Here are Ron’s past positions on the DOTL (Day of the Lord)
    1) It was 24 hours long (2012)
    2) It was a year long (2013)
    3) There was more than one DOTL (2014)
    4) The DOTL is 50 days long. (2016)

    Is this confused mess of lies the finger print of God, or of something else?
    Is confusion evidence of God? Or something else?

  • martin says:

    A year has past since the Great Tribulation supposedly started.

    How??? HOW ON EARTH, DO PKGERS STILL THINK THIS GUY IS A PROPHET????????

    Has he uttered ANY PROPHECY THAT CAME TRUE?

    Isn’t a prophet supposed to prophecy????

  • Ozymandias says:

    A few die hards will always stick with Ron but deep down in most of the know the truth, but are too prideful to admit it. If he’s wrong , then they’re wrong. They’ve been pushing his agenda for so long they don’t know anything else. Somewhere along the line , you lose your ability to think for yourself. You think you’re being obedient to God, when in reality you don’t even remember what God wants from us. All they see is Ron and Laura. A little worship game.

  • Eric says:

    Ronald Weinland October 8 2016

    “what I’ve been trying to help people to understand during the summer months, when I’m visiting different areas, is that you can honor God by change in some of these things, because this is going to be changed in the Millennium. People aren’t going to be wearing ties around their neck cutting off the blood flow so that you can’t get things out of the sermon like
    you should be. It’s not natural. It’s not the way it should be. So, anyway, but as a whole, when it’s cold, we’re still going to continue with that tradition until it’s changed at that time. But we’re starting a process now that in the summer months when it’s in its 80’s outside. Just coming back and forth, we have to travel long distances in many cases and just the travel and being in and out of the heat like that can take its wear and tear on people. So again, please feel comfortable in wearing that which is nice, in other words, as far as a short-sleeved shirt if you want, but again, it should be with dress slacks, like with suits.”

    Ronald Weinland: still not cutting off the blood flow to his head in this latest sermon (I’m not sure its making a difference) and making sure that he can get things out of the sermon like you should be.

    The new enemy of the PKG – Ties! He makes sure we focus on the important things when the world is about to end.

  • martin says:

    Nice of him to mention ties, in the midst of the great tribulation.

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    I think it is hilarious. When I went to him with marriage issues, Gary cheating etc…, I got, “I’ve got more important things to worry about than your marriage.” Guess it was TIES. Now I know.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    UPDATE:

    Speaking of false prophets, Zerubbabel (the blue tasseled, seemingly paranoid schizophrenic “prophet”) has not posted anything on Youtube for a month now, after claiming that late Sept. was the time when god was finally going to unleash the Tribulation on mankind. For those of you who don’t know who he is, his name is Michael and he broke away from Weinland to start his own lunatic gospel, in which he preaches such idiocies as he and Jesus himself (!!) are the Two Witnesses. He makes this claim after being thrown out of both Greece and Israel.

    Anyways, the reason all this is relevant is that lately Zerubbabel:

    1.Was posting videos about how angry “god” was that no one was tithing to him and how financially desperate he and his wife/stepdaughter were.

    2.How for example his wife has to duct tape her shoes together every day because they can’t afford new ones.

    3.How the ONE guy who is camping out with them (fleeing to Zerubabbel’s lil’ Place of Safety)is the one providing the money for Zerubbabel to have Internet access to keep on posting his videos.

    4.He also admitted that he is MONTHS behind on rent for the land where he lives and has built the Holy of Holies (a crappy wooden altar covered by a damaged tarp). He is months behind on rent as well for a crappy little shed built on that land wherein he lives. He even admitted that he hadn’t gone down to the local post office for weeks to check for notices of eviction because he couldn’t “afford it” (the gas? car payments?)

    5. He also mentioned in one video how some hikers wandered through his property at some point and Zerubbabel knew this because he had a minor heart attack at the same time.

    6. So Z hasn’t paid rent for months, has one follower who is the sole financially contributor (only enough for Internet provider fees), can’t afford new shoes for his wife, and has heart problems.

    Since he has not posted for a month, my guess is that he was forcibly evicted (this has happened to him before for non-payment of rent (and hopefully being sued for the money), and is scrambling to find another place he can pretend is “the place where god has put his name”… or is dead, because he also believed in not going to the doctor and/or “touching the dead” (anyone who does not believe him). I think it is most likely that he and his little group are trying to find another place after being kicked off the land, and will either not mention the move to hide this embarrassing fact or mention it then come up with some stupid excuse through twisting Scripture around to make it look like all this is god’s POSITIVE will. So the drama continues with Zerubbabel and his paranoid, semi-schizophrenic gospel… most likely evicted, possibly deceased, maybe just can’t afford Internet access….

    It will be interesting to see if he ever posts again, or what insane babbling(s) will be his next entry on why he has not posted for X amount of time…

  • LeftatLast says:

    Glad I’m Free, when I went to him for help I received the same could-not-be-bothered attitude.
    How fortunate we are to have escaped Weinland and our marriage issues..and thrived anyway

  • Ronco says:

    Thanks for the update, Avalo!

  • martin says:

    I enjoyed Zerubabbel’s rant about the eggs he got. That was priceless.

  • martin says:

    Zerubbabel’s rants are truly incomprehensible. That he has a single follower is amazing.

  • “Zerubbabel’s rants are truly incomprehensible. That he has a single follower is amazing.”

    The man of La Mancho’s Sancho?

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    May Weinland follow Z’s example and …..

  • martin says:

    If I were the wife, I would run from this guy.

  • martin says:

    PROOFS THAT RONALD WEINLAND IS A FALSE PROPHET….

    These are all from Ron’s own mouth.

    1) Ron said he was a false prophet if the prophecies he spoke didn’t come to pass. They didn’t. He is a false prophet.

    2) Ron said he was blind and could not see prophetically. Zero fulfilled prophecies that he spoke, testify to this.

    3) Ron said that the 3 1/2 days of death of the Two Witnesses was spiritual. So according to Ron, both he and Laura are spiritually dead Christians. Spiritually dead Christians do not have salvation.

    4) Ron said that the 5 months of torment applied to the “persecution” of PKG. According to the bible, only the “unsealed” are tormented for 5 months, “unsealed” people are people without the Holy Spirit. Thus Ron said that PKGers do not have the Holy Spirit.

    So basically, from Ron’s own mouth, he is a false prophet, a blind man leading the blind, is spiritually dead, and does not have the Holy Spirit.

    And yet these people still follow him???????????????????????????? How sad.

  • Fooled No More says:

    I have to wonder with all the news lately of what’s happening with Russia, and possible war, how many in PKG are just hoping and wishing that something BIG will happen (nuclear war) to prove Ron right?

    Never mind the fact that they along with many others would die. BUT! They hope to be “saved” by some miraculous means, and get into the Millennium pretty much with a puffed up head that they were “special” and made it through.

    Kinda spooky sounding ain’t it??

  • Acts says:

    And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

    Has to do with False Prophets .

    Fooled No More, you hit the nail on the head! You said: “I have to wonder with all the news lately of what’s happening with Russia, and possible war, how many in PKG are just hoping and wishing that something BIG will happen (nuclear war) to prove Ron right?
    Never mind the fact that they along with many others would die. BUT! They hope to be “saved” by some miraculous means, and get into the Millennium pretty much with a puffed up head that they were “special” and made it through.”

    That is exactly their mentality , and that is not from God. WOE to the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!

  • Stopping by says:

    Does anyone know Ron’s stance on divorce between church members? Will they be dis fellowshipped?

  • hawkeye says:

    stopping by ..i wouldnt really worry about weinlands stance on anything …divorce or otherwise ..even if he happens to be right ( for once ) ….seek other advice from a real professional…yellow pages are full of them ..and if it is the religion aspec… then know this ..Jesus was not religious,,in fact he condemned the religion ..and he gave TRUE advice on divorce
    you could do far worse than being dis fellow shipped from the pkg

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland is a false prophet, why be concerned about anything he says?

    Ron’s own mouth condemns him.

    Oddly enough I suspect that Ron may in fact be embued with miraculous powers (as Bible prophecy has mentioned again and again regarding false prophets), and will eventually take any followers with him down to the”pit”.

  • martin says:

    Ron is so false, out of he “said so”, there is nothing to support his claim that he and his wife are the Two Witnesses….not to mention that the Bible explicitly states that the Two are both men.

  • Excogger says:

    Audra divorced, remarried and was then proclaimed a prophet. That should answer the question.

  • Stopping by says:

    I was under the impression that neither will be able to remarry as long as they remain in the church.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Since Chris Little left PKG, that may have made a difference for Audra. Or maybe not, since she’s the Apostle’s daughter.

  • martin says:

    Stopping by…

    All Ron cares about is if you send him money or not. If you send him money you can divorce and remarry as often as you please.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Stopping By—-

    Martin and the others are correct! You keep the money flowing, you could have multiple wives and husbands at the same time, and he might ignore it!

    Here’s what I remember about Audra’s situation…………

    Back around early 2012 or thereabouts (may have been the very end of 2011), Ron had given a sermon in which he stated that since we’re so close to the “end” (May 27, 2012), there was to be no remarrying from newly divorced ones, and there was to be no dating from such ones as there wouldn’t be “time” for counseling since well, the world’s supposed to end soon doncha know??

    Fast forward to late 2013, early ’14. A letter was sent out to Elders in the church that Audra had remarried (not sure the exact date ‘cept it was very recent at that time) which no one else knew or was to know about till “further notice”. Around the same time, Ron made an announcement that he was lifting the “restriction” on marrying and such. Very convenient eh??

    What stunned me (and quite a few others) was that in early ’14, I distinctly remember riding with some folks to an out of town service when one of the persons (an Elder) got a phone call in which she (the Elder) got quite upset.

    I thought nothing of it as I figured it was “church stuff”, but little did I know what it was she was upset about until later on. When we got to the restaurant where we were all meeting before services, another Elder was showing pictures of he and his Fiance. In one of those pictures, there was Audra with this fella.

    Someone had asked who’s that guy with Audra? His reply was, “Oh, that’s Audra’s Husband!” We were STUNNED as everyone that heard it said WHAT?? Most of us knew that it was hardly six months earlier when she was divorced from Chris (some didn’t know she and Chris were divorced), and the ink’s barely dry on the papers and she’s married again already.

    I then figured out that was the phone call that the Elder got when we were in the car……….someone had called her who was not in on the original email, and asked this Elder did they know Audra got married? That’s when the Elder lost it as she said “Oh NO, how did you find out about that?? That was not supposed to be known about yet!!”

    Needless to say, Ron’s a total hypocrite because technically (as far as the Bible is concerned), Audra is an adulteress as she divorced under very flimsy circumstances. I don’t know all the details about that, but I do know that the divorce was not scriptural based as far as I know.

    So there you have it! Daddy’s little girl got “special treatment”, He changed the “rules” to suit her, never mind the fact that she married again under very interesting circumstances.

    Those that are more in the know can chime in if they’d like, but that’s what I remember about the situation.

  • martin says:

    I don’t remember, does anybody remember the timing of Audra’s divorce/remarriage and when Ron appointed her a prophet?

    Where they the same time?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Timing as best I have it is given on the Biography page.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Just when I thought Ron couldn’t get more ridiculous, he made Audra a prophet. Ron has all the bases covered is all. Keeping the money all in the family should anything have happened to him in prison. If he had died , she would have been elevated to witness. Ron is a desperate little man trying to pound his square peg into a round hole. Ron and his family are all alike. If people are stupid enough to still believe him and send him money , they’re getting something out of the deal. It cannot possibly be truth they seek.

  • Acts says:

    Synagogue of Satan.

  • martin says:

    Don’t prophets prophesy? Isn’t that the whole point of being a prophet?

    All Audra does is twiddle her thumbs. All her mom does is twiddle her thumbs.

    I mentioned at another forum that a “silent witness” is oxymoronic.

    They said that Laura speaks to the members of PKG.

    That is like a witness for the defense, only talking to the defendant while at their home. And not talking before the judge, jury, and court. Such a witness would be USELESS.

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Hey asshole , you and you bitch couldn’t even stop all your people , what ever you got got left , from being sick , what happen to bringing down rain ,and breathing fire , and you can’t healing all the old in your so called church asshole , give it up your going to die in your own bed !!!

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    What happen to Annulment !

  • martin says:

    Laura, you surely must know by now that both of you are false prophets.

    And since the penalty for being a false prophet is death, in the lake of fire, surely it is not worth it to continue in the lie?

    Do you really want to ride it out till the bitter end? Save yourself.

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Hey ya all let’s take a vote
    How many think Ron and Laura are going to die humble in streets of Iseral or in a hospital in USA , that’s he said will be on its knees in 2008 !!!!
    I vote he will rott in hell and his bitch !

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    It rain here today so I though I would blog like I said I’m not smart, not educated, I guess I’m a dumb fisherman and farmer , but I have common since
    Ron said 2/3 veggies wiped out
    Randy : said no
    Ron: said are boarder’s blown up
    Randy : said no
    Ron : said Christ was coming 4 times
    Randy : said no man will know
    Ron : said no more president after Bush
    Randy : said yes there will
    Ron : said no more Pope after JP
    Randy : said yes

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    And Randy never took a dime from anyone or never would , the Weinland took million of church money and spent personal use with out pay tax on it and went to prison for 42 months

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    And now that the asshole stole all the old people’s money in tights , they are broke and sick and the are saying they wish they would just fall a sleep and wake up in new world, but it’s Gods plans not the false prophet and his Gossipping bitch’s

  • Byker Bob says:

    Ron could have ordained himself as an Ayatolla, and claimed that he received messages from Alla and probably would have been less damaging to the old folks with his false prophecies and ripoffs.

    BB

  • Acts says:

    From Ron’s Wondrous “church era” list
    #27 (6)    All in God’s Church during the era of Laodicea were Laodicean (Referring to the period after Mr. Armstrong’s death up to Trumpets of 2008). The Church of God formerly believed that at the end there would be two eras coexisting side-by-side: Philadelphia and Laodicea. One (Philadelphia) was to go to a place of safety and the other (Laodicea) would have to go through the great tribulation. Yet, one era cannot overlap another, and history has shown that all who lived during the era of Laodicea were Laodiceans. While some may exhibit some of the traits of the other eras, all are primarily lukewarm and full of pride, until they acknowledge and repent of this condition in their lives and God begins to work in their lives once again.

    Isaiah 3 16Moreover the LORD said, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:17Therefore the LORD will smite with a scab the *crown of the head* of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret parts.
    1And in that day SEVEN WOMEN shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.
    3And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remains in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem: 4When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion”

    All the Groups that came from HWA have maintained the False Doctrine of Church eras , and from that one false doctrine alone they have become wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. Also , every single leader has made themselves an Apostle or a prophet or both ! A rotten tree cannot produce good fruit.
    Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Ron is so greedy he covered all the bases. Minister, Apostle, Prophet, Witness, Johns counterpart, and even said he was like Paul because of the prison time. Third in line under Christ. Did I miss any? Then because of his greed he gave these titles to his family to cover even more bases. He is not only greedy for money, but for power and status. This is why he must be ALL things, so no one can come along and be something just as good or better. He really is a broken toy.

  • martin says:

    Zerubbabel and Elijah.

  • martin says:

    Regarding Ron’s collapse of faith, regarding the 2nd Coming in 2012

    here is a good summary (from MDDTFA)

    So. How do we know that it was Satan who came to Ron in the middle of the night of Atonement, when Ron was weakened by his fast of less than 12 hours? And not God who came to him the same way to deliver the 46th “truth” into Ron’s mind? I imagine that Laura has a great deal to do with that “clarification”. PKG members have been shaken by this trial balloon and are working their way though the emotions of the thought without having to deal with it fully. They are sheep, and will continue to follow Ron no matter how he plays his cards as his prophesies fail. They think they are following God, and they are — a god anyway, Ron’s god who is ….. Ron himself.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey ya’ll I am back!!! Took a long break from wienland, but, let’s do it again!!!!

    I some reviewing to do to caught up.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Well let’s see here, it has been one year since this delusional idiot has proclaimed his and her empowerment as the two witnesses!! Well where are they!?

    Johnny you are looking like a dumb jackass for supporting this lying felon. It was you that claimed that jackass weinland would be in control of the scattered cogs and the world would be bowing at the feet of this felon weinland. Not looking good for you Johnny!!!!

    This is one pathetic dog and pony show!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Johnny,

    How does it feel to be the essence of the south end of a jackass? I can still remember when you were bragging about your ability to recognize the “man of sin” in 1995. But you can’t smell the stench of a lying false prophet (felon) known as weinland and his whatever wife?

    From my position, it is both sad and entertaining to see you so deep in hypocrisy and lies. I did enjoy our friendship while it lasted. It is understood that friendships in felon weinland’s group are conditional and have no basis in gentility what so ever. If you worship the south end of a false prophet, who is mentally deranged, that makes it right. But when you go against that lying felon weinland then the friendship becomes null and void. Is this true Christianity in your eyes Johnny? Not in mine, a true Christian friend is true and will continue the relationship. However not so with you or weinland. How sad that you and all isolate your lives from family and loved ones because of a deranged lying individual like weinland!

    I made my choice and left for good reason. I will also do everything I can to open the eyes of what is left of jackass wienland’s group and free them from the deceit and lies of weinland and his family. Hopefully, you will come to your senses and see jackass weinland for what he truly is, false!!

    That is enough for now Johnny. Hopefully you will begin to smell the stench of that foul rotting weinland family.

    Until then.

  • martin says:

    I am starting to think that Ronald Weinland might actually be the Man of Sin!

    Now, at this time, no. But what if he were imbued with miraculous powers??

    Ron is GREEDY to perform miracles. he desperately wants to do miracles. Maybe he will.

    Ron IS A FALSE PROPHET. The proof is there. The bible says that many false prophets (not all) will perform miracles. So Ron may get his chance!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I can’t agree with you Martin. Jackass weinland is a phony and will only amount to a pile of pig manure.

    But, I respect your opinion.

  • Acts says:

    10/24/16
    “And yet I began to write while in prison, a third book, and what I hope to be and believe to be, the final book! Prophesy Against the Nations. That IS my commission. I believe and hope that this is a commission that is complete before Pentecost of 2019. I believe that it is. I am living that it is, and moving forward – focused that it is.
    But you know what, brethren? If God has more, so be it. There is nothing else. ” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    2008 GFW
    “If you believe anything about God other than what is written in this book, then you do not know the true God of Abraham. This book reveals God’s plan and purpose being worked out on this earth, and therefore, it reveals the true God!” “When this book is published at the end of summer of 2006, (with distribution in full swing in the fall), there will be a maximum time of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time of all human history.” “As the spokesman of God’s two end-time witnesses and as His end-time prophet, I have fulfilled my responsibility in placing the contents of this book before you. What you do with it is up to you. Indeed, only a very short time remains before it will be evident that I am who I say or that I am not” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/haughty

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Here is my take on Martin’s point: http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1027

  • Acts says:

    I agree 100%
    Ron has *Given* False signs and lying Wonders for over a decade . It is not about performing Miracles but about *Giving false prophecy that people Hang on to . ALL his timelines all his books all his False Doctrine all leading to the biggest Wonder of all , That he Knows when Jesus Christ returns .

    But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

    Ron has made himself the Father , God Almighty ! He is a man of Sin , sitting in the place of God and Christ and the poor people believe him over God. And that is the spiritual Captivity that has come on the people .
    All his college buds are in the same position as him ! They are men of sin and have a Nicolaitan spirit , which God says he Hates !

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Gentlemen,

    From your perspective, I can agree with what is being put forth.

    Jackass weinland does indeed fall within those guidelines. However a lying thief, such as, jackass weinand is good for only so long in time. I agree he has survived for a long period of time and through several false predictions regarding Christ’s return. By employing “critical thinking” one could accept the fact that this jackass has indeed performed a lying wonder.

    Good points for consideration in understanding how dark and misleading this jackass really is. Not to mention, the deeply set delusion that has been instilled in Johnny Harrell and Wayne Matthews. But, it is also understood, that once this influence is defeated it becomes very clear on how corrupt and devious this jackass weinland really is.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Continuing with this conversation:

    Johnny Harrell and Wayne Matthews are critical supports for this jackass weinland’s organization of lying falsehoods and deceit.

    Consider this, “if” Harrell and Matthews were to depart from weinland’s group it would result in absolute chaos and would probably bring this cult to its deserved end. I have to wonder if jackass weinland realizes that this is always a possibility and could happen. So, now the question becomes, how does this jackass maintain his dark influence over them? This may fit into the performance of another lying wonder by maintaining their allegiance for his own survival.

    There is no doubt in my mind that Matthews does have the talent and ability to develop his own following and would take current members with him. Harrell may join with Matthews because of his lack of effective speaking. But it is a possibility that this could take place.

    It would be interesting to know if Harrell and Matthews have already discussed this. The failure of 2019 may become the catalyst for this departure from a lying false prophet. We will see.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    What was the impact when Evangelist Terry Wrozek was df’d? Guessing very little, but then rumor has it there may have been some personal issues relating to the failure of his marriage with Ann that discredited him.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Mike:

    It is interesting that Terry did not have the popularity that Wayne and Johnny have. Terry was part of the original group and the new ones really didn’t have a connection with him like they do with Johnny and Wayne.

    I agree that his marriage issues did have a lot to do with this. Not to mention, that laura’s venomous tongue was also involved.

    It is these circumstances that led me to the conclusions that I have put forth.

  • martin says:

    I do wonder how Johnny and Wayne can continue to support Ron the false prophet Weinland??

    Is the title (whatever that may be) they have enough???? That’s all it takes to snare them????

    Is the prestige of getting air time and giving a sermon enough for them??

    Do they get any payment or token salary?

    Being “in it for life”, should not include supporting a liar and a thief and a coward.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I do have to recognize the fact that they do believe this jackass. But, I am the opinion that with each failure of Christ’s return does have an negative effect on their belief in him. It is only a matter of time, along with disappointments, that the confidence will soon erode and disappear. You have to consider that it is required of them to support all that jackass weinland puts out there, every lie and falsehood.

    Question: how many lies and falsehoods can these two support only to hear a lame excuse for why it didn’t happen? I will put my money on human nature and that Johnny and Wayne are going to realize that have been forward mouth pieces for a lying thief. The results are predictable.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Don’t forget many of these people are just as stuck with each other as with Ron. Many are older people with no intentions of going anywhere. They would rather be wrong than start all over again. They NEED to have a church, and have already eliminated most of the other COGS. That’s why they’re with Ron in the first place. No place left to go, and far to old and lazy to start all over. When you quit the group, you never see any of them again. Most of these people need other people, and yes many really do believe him. To me he’s the boy who cried wolf, but to them, it’s just bad timing on his part, not error.

  • If the Weinlands want to appropriate additional titles, how about Ananias and Saphira?

    Or if they need Old Testament references then how about Ahab and Jezebel?

    I apologize if they have taken these titles previously and, if they have, I will do more in depth research for more appropriate titles as the need arises.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Ozy,

    I agree with your position.

    The ones that will come to a point of leaving will be the under 40 group. They are young and when it dawns on them that they have been scammed, they will leave.

    The old ones will stay because they are just to tired and lazy to go anywhere else. It just goes to prove that jackass weinland is a predator of the worst kind!

  • martin says:

    Are they too tired and too lazy to escape the lake of fire?

    Jesus said that if the blind follow the blind, then BOTH will go into the pit.

    The “pit” (a deep well or cistern) that is fallen into is most likely a reference to the grave or at worst the second death.

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Terry had a girl freind and is remarried no rumor , just like Audria !

  • Acts says:

    Where is this book being advertised ? besides his website ,which according to Alexa nobody looks at anymore.
    One year in to Ron’s latest False sign and Wonder and no book in print .

    Here is what he said january 2 , first sermon back from doing time :
    “it’d be good to point out at this stage that we’re at the beginning of the seventh prophetic end-time 1260-day period. We know that. Please understand also, this year, this following year is fully about the book.
    So, again, we’re in a particular period of time. Maybe it’ll follow the pattern of “a time, times, and a half a time.” Because this year is about the book! It’s about getting it published. It’s about getting it out there.
    And it’s going to be published, again, as the first book and the second book was. And we have a great opportunity to promote it. I’ll very likely get a publicist, just as I have before. I don’t know if it’ll be on radio again and some of those kinds of things. And I know exactly where they’re going to go with their questions and I don’t care.”
    10 /24/ 16
    “So in this year, in the next few months we have opportunity now of getting the other language editions out, of being able to make sure that they are on the internet and being offered to people as well. We’re going to begin an advertising process. And as we begin that a lot of those will be online and ready to go. But it’s going to take some work yet. There’s been a lot of work getting this book ready – more so than the other two books.” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    Maybe it will be ready by 2019 ? No matter , Ron is a False prophet who does not believe God at all!
    Exodus 20:11For in six days the LORD made HEAVEN and EARTH , the SEA, **AND ALL THAT IN THEM IS**, and rested the seventh day: why the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
    Chapter 2 of book 3
    “The question might then arise, “How long did it take to create such a universe?” It certainly didn’t just “all of the sudden” burst into existence. It took a very long, long time, and that is something our feeble minds most definitely cannot begin to grasp.” “Indeed, the creation of the universe did not happen instantaneously, but covered millions upon millions of what we can only compare to earth years. We cannot even begin to imagine all that this massive creation involved, let alone the time required to accomplish it.” False Prophet Ron Almighty
    Genesis 1 16And God made the two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of heaven to give light upon the earth

    19And there was evening and there was morning, the FOURTH DAY.

  • Eric says:

    “I am the greatest and end time prophet”

    “The proof of the validity of my first book, and now this one, is in the timing and the destruction that follows, exactly as both books describe.”

    “great power is given to me to perform miraculous events similar to those of Moses ”

    Lets see what Ron currently has to say –

    “while in prison, a third book, and what I HOPE to be and believe to be, the final book! ”

    “I BELIEVE and HOPE that this is a commission that is complete before Pentecost of 2019. ”

    “I BELIEVE that it is. ”

    “But you know what, brethren? IF GOD HAS MORE, SO BE IT. ”

    Ron has lost his confidence that God is telling him anything. He thinks he knows what God has told him. He believes what he thinks God has told him. he hopes what he said will happen.

    But that’s not a prophet. wake up PKG. A quick look in the scriptures will show you what a contrast this attitude is to a real prophecy. Its not hard! Ron as a Prophet is dead. he lost his mojo on his third failed prophecy and is now afraid to stand before you as prophet of the Lord and declare Gods mind and will with power and authority. If he hopes something, if be believes something, if he thinks something, then he is no different from the rest of us. Th reality is you have a person at the head of your church who is giving his opinions.

    Ron the prophet has long gone and all that is left is the shadow which struggles on trying not to look like a failure to the shrinking group of followers.

  • Eric says:

    Some interesting statements from Ron’s latest sermon with a translation

    “That we’re still here. If you’re still here that is awesome ! It really is! Mighty! Because the vast majority who have had opportunity, that you’ve had opportunity to fellowship with in different areas, they’re not around any longer. ”

    Means: Almost every body has left the church. There’s almost nobody left.

    “As was stated before the exceedingly important point to note is contained in that first paragraph. There is one factor in the midst of this that would determine which date God would send His Son to rule in His Kingdom. That factor was the Church— His Church. ”

    Means: IT’S your fault the lord hasn’t come. Its not my fault that I said the wrong dates. God looked at you and changed his mind.

    “We’re still moving forward because so many have gone by the wayside”

    Means: Once everybody has left we will have reached the destination.

    “Thinking yesterday of how much I loathe human nature.”

    Means: I really don’t like people very much. In fact I loathe them.

    “The greatest part of what we’ve been called to at this end-time is in front of us. It’s ahead of us yet. So if you think you’ve been down a long road – yes, you have – and we have a little farther to go. But some of the greatest of things that many of you are going to have to face are still in the future”

    Means: Yes you still have the 2019 failure to deal with yet.

    “People are willing to blab about, talk about, demean God’s people in front of other of God’s people, to tear them down.”

    Means: I have my blinkers on so I don’t see this close to home.

    “The fact that we’re still here, it’s a miracle.”

    Means: It is a miracle that you are still here.

    “300 people?”

    Means” Whoops, I have just revealed the church membership number.

    “I wouldn’t be where I am today, at the level of where I am today, with the strength that I have today, with a boldness that I have today, with a determination that I know ”

    Means: I am being so bold and strong. That’s why I have recently been saying – I believe, I hope, I think, perhaps so much. My boldness is to be strong with provisos.

    “I think of visiting Lubbock, Texas, when we were out there. The one woman I’ve known since first started going to Salina, Kansas, probably in… had to be in 19… late 1970, possibly. Known her that long. I’m so thankful there’s one person at least that’s still with us”

    Means: There is only one member of PKG in Kansas.

    You can learn a lot from Ron. He is so good with own goals.

  • Fooled No More says:

    300 members?? WOW! If that’s true (and I believe it is) what’s that saying?—-“My how the mighty have fallen!”

    I tend to think that 300 members may be more than accurate as there was only maybe double that number at the Feast last year.

    Too bad it’s not zero. There will always be some however that stay no matter what.

    So sad…..

    Randy, that’s good news to hear about Terry IMO. He’s got on with his life and I hope he’s left PKG and its remnants far behind. Interesting that’s it’s now November 2016 and Ron has to backtrack big time about the so-called “tribulation”. No earth shattering events to call his own, no major “shakings”. The only thing that the rest of the world is watching is our elections and the MAJOR drama that it’s generating.

    I will say on that front that the next few days will be very interesting indeed!

  • martin says:

    Does Ron explicitly say ‘300’? or is this an educated guess?

  • He’s good until he dips under 50.

    With 50 people he can have a comfortable living without having to do much.

    Of course, the two of them won’t be able to continue a high flying life style Bonnie and Clyde style and will have to make do with living comfortably on a modest ($500,000) a year income… but still….

  • Eric says:

    There is a bit of reading between the lines but it’s more than a guess. You be the Judge. Here is what he said in the latest sermon

    From Be Encouraged, Pt. 4 November 5, 2016

    That’s why God has given us some things. That’s why He gave us, again, on the Last Great Day the example of Gideon and what He whittled the force down to. Sent, what was it, 22,000 along, another 10,000 along? Whatever the… 30 some thousand and left 300. That’s why Gideon had to have a little more than just the fleece. “WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE NOW, GOD? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? 300 people?

    He was talking about Gideon but he loves to compare past and present where there is a parallel.

    A quick search shows a considerable number of comments on the 5 June 2013 in the “The Wanderlust Overwhelms” thread about number of Church members around the 400 number. I also have a memory of him some time ago in a sermon saying there were 400 members. I can’t find it and really don’t want to invest a lot of time searching but that’s my memory.

    If it was 400 a while ago, 300 as he seems to indicate above fits the trend. I think he accidently released the current number of Church members.

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Most of the ones left are old and broke !

  • martin says:

    What happened to the 7000 people dying? And the 63,000 running to him with open arms and open wallets?

    Did every body at PKG get amnesia? Did they completely forget this prophecy? Why don’t you hold Ron accountable?

    Or are you glad to fund this liar?

  • martin says:

    Soon we will have another president…

    How many times has Ronald Weinland been wrong?

    EVERYTIME!

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland said we would not have a new president.

    Barack Obama served for two terms, now we have another president…

    It’s embarrassing how wRONg Ron is. Ron gets NOTHING right.

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Maybe Ron is going by “three times a charm?”

  • hawkeye says:

    to paraphrase an old cliche …weinland couldnt prophesy his way out of a paper bag

  • Acts says:

    Where is False Prophet Ronald Weinland ? Where is his False prophet Wife ? When will they Repent of their Foolishness ?
    Ron , You and your wife will not enter the Kingdom . ( Ezekiel 13 :6-9)

    Money is your god .

  • Ronco says:

    “weinland couldnt prophesy his way out of a paper bag” but he can sure blather his way through a 2 hour sermon!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Anyone out there know the numbers attending the Feast? That might further explain Ron’s “300” number. Also, where was it held this year?

  • Ozymandias says:

    If Ron weren’t such a liar about everything he said he would or wouldn’t do, the 300 number would seem spiritually significant. He has been caught in far too many lies at this point for one to take him seriously. Because he believes in himself so strongly, he can fool others to go along with him. Ron will always have a following of some sort. They will spend their last dime trying to make him right, and he will let them.

  • martin says:

    What did that fast Ron asked of the PKGers produce? Did it produce any results?

    First of all, that coward Ron, didn’t even specify what the fast was for, which is convenient when nothing happens.

    Nothing occurred, nothing happened, nothing as far as the eyes can see.

  • Acts says:

    11/17/16
    “A lot of people that I never would have dreamed of that have gone by the wayside over the last 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 years is quite amazing; individuals that I just wouldn’t have thought it of.
    Every Feast of Tabernacles – and here we are just barely past it, had to deal with several situations already. Incredible!
    And so many, so many have gone by the wayside. Several since the Feast as well, several more in different areas. By several I mean probably six or seven. That’s far too many people.
    I don’t care if it doesn’t happen until the beginning of 2019 – which I hope and pray is the case, and see why there would be wisdom in not doing it until then. But I don’t care if it goes on to 2020 or 2021.” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    Every wise woman builds her house, but the foolish one tears it down with her own hands.

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland “And so many, so many have gone by the wayside. Several since the Feast as well, several more in different areas. By several I mean probably six or seven. That’s far too many people. Either disfellowshipped or suspended from services for a period of time.”
    Be Encouraged Part 5

    That is encourage news…more people are leaving!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Martin, that is EXCELLENT! I’d like to see a whole lot more leave in the year to come!

  • Eric says:

    A little bit extra added onto Martins comment, from the sermon.

    “I’m crying out because I see those things happening and I realize if there is not a quick change there are some going by the wayside – more. Every Feast of Tabernacles – and here we are just barely past it, had to deal with several situations already. Incredible! AND THERE ARE MORE TO DEAL WITH if people don’t listen,”

    Last one out turn off the lights. Oh I forgot Ron is already in the dark.

  • You know, probably the very worst thing about Swineland is that he doesn’t listen. The most incompetent foolish people fail because they neither seek nor accept correction. They all have extremely poor judgment.

    We wish that Swineland would appear as a project manager on “The Apprentice” so that Donald Trump could declare:

    You’re Lake of Fired!.

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    The only thing that Ron is concerned about is that is 6 or 7 less that will give him their money. Oh, poor, poor baby.

  • martin says:

    There are a whole bunch of things that happen BEFORE the end of the GT…

    NONE of which has even started or even appear on the prophetic horizon.

    Ron’s stance is that this stuff will take place during the last 50 days before Christ returns.

    HOWEVER these 50 days are AFTER the 1260 days, that is, they occur AFTER THE GT ENDS.

    Hilarious ain’t it? The Great Tribulation occurring after the GT ends????????

    Such is the logic of Ronald the false prophet Weinland.

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland said he and his gossiping wife would be used to correct the nations.

    To which I just say: hahahahhahahhhahahahahah

    It’s laughable, a convicted crook and his greedy wife used to correct the nations??????

    Never.

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Laura just keep on Gossipping! Goofy bitch !

  • Plimsol says:

    Ron has a new post up on his website.

    It’s about his book, and how he’s not going to promote it until the Thunders start (i.e. he’s never going to promote it).

    He says it would be a waste of money. It would indeed.

  • martin says:

    If I remember correctly (it’s hard to keep track of lies), Ron said the Thunders would happen before the Great Tribulation.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Speaking of thunder, our old friend the lunatic Zerubbabel is back after a couple months of silence. He stopped making vidoes, and from what I can guess, has been kicked off his land due to non-payment of rent, and is making his videos from a location he does not want to discuss becuase it would further reveal how completely wrong he has been about EVERYTHING that he has said was the special, magical truth only he knows and how only through giving him tithes can you please god and not be killed in the coming Tribulation…which is now only 16 days away! So now Zerubabbel is angrily railing against us “sinners’ for not doing what he wants, i.e. “god” is going to kill us all for not doing what Zerubbabel wants. So unless we all run off to wherever he is hiding and give him all our money, we are all going to die! LOL!!

    I don;t know about you… but I am preparing to spend my last 16 days on the planet laughing my @ss off at Zerubabbel, going about my business, and eagerly awaiting his big message coming up in 17 days explaining how God has for the 10th time in Zerubbabel’s “prophetic” mission lied and failed to deliver )% of anything Zrubabbel says. This guys is a false prophecy machine. You can set your watch to his failures and trust they will be occur often and completely!!

    So Happy “Zerubabbel is A Nitwit” Day…

    I hope your next 16 days are spent mocking Zerubabbel and the idiotic deity he has conjured up in his addled mind…

  • Ronco says:

    Zerubbabel is back! Yea!!!!!!!

  • martin says:

    Zerubbabel is 10 time more incomprehensible and incoherent than Ronald false prophet Weinland, and that’s saying a lot.

  • Debbie says:

    Randy – Is Shirley still in PKG?

  • FedUp says:

    If dear old Zerubbabel really thinks the world is ending in 16 days, why does he need anyone’s tithe?

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Yes Debbie she is !

  • Avalokiteshvara, according to Dr. James Milam, there is no such thing as ‘mental illness’: Either it’s illness or it’s mental.

    Which do you think it is for Zerubbabel.

    [For Swineland, I’ve already concluded it’s mental.]

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Ron is a nut job sick in the head and his wife knows it but uses him for a living ! She is smart like a fox just a crook and lazy Gossipping bitch !!!!

  • martin says:

    It’s one thing to worry about the judgements and opinions of men….

    But Ronald Weinland should be worried about the “reapers” (clearly identified as angels), who are going to come and take false prophets and “bundle” them together to be burnt. The NT is 10000% clear on the coming punishment on false prophets.

    You can’t be a prophet where every single prophecy you proclaimed failed to come to pass, and still believe you are a true servant and prophet of God. IMPOSSIBLE. You are false.

    Ron should be quaking in his boots. Laura should be quaking in her boots.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Douglas:

    1. If it is indeed the case that Dr. Milam literally said: ” there is no such thing as ‘mental illness’: Either it’s illness or it’s mental…” then he is a f**king idiot, not matter how many years and degrees he has under his belt. Such a gross overgeneralization is not only unscientific, but also a complete fallacy, a false dilemma, “fallacy of the excluded middle. It is like saying something stupid like “there is no such thing as a jam sandwich”. Either it is bread, or it is butter, or it is jam!” Dr. Milam has made an excellent case for: (a) treating alcoholism neurologically, (b) not misdiagnosing alcoholics and IMPROPERLY treating them with medication/pyschotherapy. But to exlcude the psychiatric is medical malpractice at worst and ignorance/incompetence as a doctor at best.

    2. What Dr. Milam has said, based on what you have quoted…”There is no such thing as ‘mental illness’: Either it’s illness or it’s mental, is also provably untrue medically.

    HERE IS PROOF:

    3. Thousands and thousands of people every year are given the painkiller diamorphine for surgical pain or cancer pain. And once the pain dies down they cease taking it, and are NOT addicted to it. I have personally been given it after surgery. Then people stop taking it when the pain is gone, and that is that. No addiction. Guess what? Diamoprhine is medical grade HEROIN. Just as or MORE powerful than the heroin available through drug dealers. How can thousand of “heroin users’ walk away with no effects while street junkies say on smack for YEARS?

    4. Being in circumstances that drive you to drug use… that you cannot leave due to poverty, etc., AM+ND/OR not being able to deal with the psychological aspects of past physical/sexual abuse drive millions to drug use. The drug usage may BECOME neurological in nature, BUT if a person is “cured” and the PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPETUS TO USE is not, then THE “MENTAL” IS THE REAL SOURCE of the addiction, and the “illness” will return, be cured, return, be cured, return, be cured, and return…. FOREVER UNTIL BOTH THE MENTAL AND THE ILLNESS ARE FIXED. Dr. Milam model suggests a neurological fix with withstand and be completely unaffected by the mental… which is such a gross misunderstanding of the practice of human medicine he should be ashamed of himself…IF what you quoted is a literal quote/fallacy of his…

    According to Milam’s reasoning there is no such thing as a Christian carpenter.Either “its” Christianity” or its “carpentry.”

    Tell that to Jesus, Dr. Milam!! LOL!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    ALSO:

    Zerubbabel the Angry, Self Appointed Second Witness is now claiming once again that the dozens of MAJOR scriptural and prophetic errors he has spoken on his Youtube channel are from God… put there BY god. So no matter what Zerubabbel says, no matter how wrong it is, God is OK with it. So I am done with his nonsense. he has ceased to be a harmless idiot and is now demanding we just do what he says (give him money) and that is his WHOLE message now that everything he does is God’s will, no matter how wrong it is.

    So knock yourselves out if you are into listening to a paranoid, semi-schizophrenic middle aged white guy with a bath towel on his head tell you to give him money so he can live in a tent and keep his teenage step-daughter from ever going to school….

    … I’m done…

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    My mom so funny what fits her is good , but if it don’t don’t mess with me !

  • martin says:

    No warnings from Ron.

    No correcting the nations from Ron

    No false made up thunders from Ron

    No revealing that Ron is a prophet

    No Great Tribulation.

    It all adds up : It’s because Ronald Weinland is a false prophet.

  • Eric says:

    Is something up?

    Ron concluded his last sermon “Be encouraged Part 6” like this –

    “Powerful verse. Think about that this week. Pray about it. We’ll continue on with the next part of this in Part 7”

    Yet Wayne Matthews has given the last two sermons.

    Last time this happened it was because of serious health issues. Or maybe now he has dumped the formal dress he is also getting too lazy to write a sermon every week.

    Anybody know whats happening?

  • Excogger says:

    Possibly Ministerial Meetings are demanding most of his attention at the moment.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Hmmm……..I got nosy and skimmed through Wayne’s latest sermon, and all I can say is that the “big setup” is well under way. Plan A?? How ’bout the stone cold realization that everything you’ve been told has been bogus! Another sign of those left in PKG being set up (again) is that in Ron’s latest posting on his blog, he makes mention about “planning” for the Feast in 2018.

    But wait! I thought things were supposed to be at a screeching halt by now?? We’re nigh into 2017, and doncha know we’ve gone and elected a new President! According to Ron, Obama was to be the last President (actually he wasn’t even supposed to be elected at all according to Ron), and he’s served not one but TWO terms!

    Well, for those of you that are still stuck in the quagmire which is PKG, all I can tell you is sure——keep throwing your money at him, keep hoping that Ron will be right—-sometime, keep hoping that you’ll all be in this “new world” where you’ll be saved from yourselves.

    As for me, I’m living my life fine without all the head games and empty promises, and keeping my money where I can see it to boot.

    All I can do is to keep shaking my head…………….

  • not surprised says:

    He is probably to busy cause he is gambling in Las Vegas. Can’t believe they would go there again for their so called ministerial meeting. Wake up people look how they are spending the money.

  • FedUp says:

    A ministerial meeting in Vegas? Will they be ministering to the hookers?

    I don’t know how his cult members can abide that. One would think a ministerial meeting would be best held in a quiet little hotel in a quiet little town with no distractions. Shouldn’t men of God be more interested in meeting in earnest prayer than in sightseeing?

  • Ozymandias says:

    Beautiful hotel, beautiful meals, beautiful shows and entertainment, this is what it’s all about. Why not have a meeting while we’re having a blast? A quiet little place would be boring. Ron and Co like to live it up while theyre at at. While there is nothing wrong with having a nice time while you’re having meetings, there must be somewhere in the US more suitable than Vegas. Ron thinks he’s royalty and Vegas looks like a little kingdom to him, with people waiting on you hand and foot. THIS is where Gods tithes are spent.

  • martin says:

    So when does the Great Tribulation start for real this time?

    After all the feasting and gambling and Las Vegas shows?

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    how many people went to Vegas? Let’s see, Ron, Wife, yep that would be it?

  • martin says:

    I know what they should discuss. They should discuss how Ronald Weinland is failing to fulfill a single prophecy of any kind. How there is no Great Tribulation at this current time, thus his prediction based on faulty and error filled numerology is guaranteed to be false.

    They should also bring up why Ron is not using his fire breathing powers to move things along.

    Aren’t he and his gossipy lazy Fredrik’s of Hollywood panty wearing wife supposed to be judging the nations? Did they fall asleep on the job?

    Prophecy says that the Two Witnesses would be testifying for 1260 days, not every few weeks on a blog nobody is reading.

  • martin says:

    Let’s also bring up Ron’s rather confused and crazy logic, re the book.

    Ron is saying he will publish the book, once the thunders start happening.

    Isn’t that pointless? Warning the people AFTER the fact?

    That’s rather like knowing a time-bomb is set to blow up at 8pm, and then warning the people in the building AFTER it has blown up, that a bomb is going to go off.

    The bible says, in that case, the blood would be on the hands of the prophet for not warning the people.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Obviously tired of predicting things and being wrong. His track record is unblemished. He has been wrong every time.

  • eric says:

    More great news from Ron

    “People are still getting suspended. People are still getting disfellowshipped. Its happening on a regular basis. It’s happened since the ministerial meetings. It’s happened many times since the Feast of Tabernacles already. Now, at this rate, if it were to continue on to the next Feast of Tabernacles you can just about cut this whole audience in half “

    The great exodus continues and more members of PKG are coming to their senses. It’s been happening for a while but now it is becoming so obvious Ron is trying to plug the leaks The latest sermon was an really obvious attempt to flatter his members and give them a sense of self importance. You’re so great, your so amazing, etc he tells them to stop them looking at his history of failure. Its blatant damage control to stop the leaks of his diminishing kingdom.

    The greatest prophet of all time when you look carefully at his predictions can now only say “I believe”, “I think” instead of the confidence and certainty he had for all his previous failed predictions.

    Thats not a prophet. They can see it Ron, they can see the cracks and are voting with their feet.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Most Christians would choose an environment that could be used as a retreat from “the world” for their meeting or conference. They would be seeking places where evil spirits didn’t hang out. You can almost be guaranteed that with all of the general profaneness and perversity going on in Vegas, it would be an environment in which it would be very difficult to come close to God. Imagine, meeting in a hall or conference room where filthy jokes were told last meeting, or sleeping in the very same bed where two guys had been blowing each other the night before. Staying in casinos where gambling addicts had lost their homes. A city in which the sex trade is prolific and active. In short, this is precisely the type of activity that Armstrongism conjures up every time there has been huge damage or loss of life from a hurricane or earthquake.

    They preach about soon coming punishment, and warning the world, but then deliberately hold some sort of spiritual activity in a location where there is a higher level of sin. No darned wonder the prophecies always come out wrong and their version of church government ends up hurting so many people! What are they thinking?

    BB

  • Byker Bob,

    That is exactly the point. The Swinelands need to choose an environment conducive for the kind of Spiritual activities condoned by their Lord and Master.

    You know the One I’m talking about.

    Las Vegas is perfect.

  • FedUp says:

    Byker Bob,

    I’m hitting the imaginary “like” button!

  • Fooled No More says:

    “People are still getting suspended. People are still getting disfellowshipped. Its happening on a regular basis. It’s happened since the ministerial meetings. It’s happened many times since the Feast of Tabernacles already. Now, at this rate, if it were to continue on to the next Feast of Tabernacles you can just about cut this whole audience in half. “

    So does that mean the whole membership of PKG would be down to 150?? Keeps heading to the count of zero which would be excellent! 😛

  • martin says:

    “People are still getting suspended. People are still getting disfellowshipped. Its happening on a regular basis. It’s happened since the ministerial meetings. It’s happened many times since the Feast of Tabernacles already. Now, at this rate, if it were to continue on to the next Feast of Tabernacles you can just about cut this whole audience in half “

    I love how Ron shoots himself in the foot. He can’t help but do this.

  • Randy says:

    Please dis fellowship my mom you asshole !! How much did you lose in Vegas ?

  • hawkeye says:

    wonder why i never got my suspension letter???..and i left in 2012….maybe they just dont tell ya that you have been disfellowshipped

  • martin says:

    It is most likely that these people left. Not disfellowshipped nor suspended.

    People are seeing the complete lack of any prophecy fulfillment by Ron of any of the things mentioned in the bible.

  • Ozymandias says:

    If you don’t cause any trouble or try to take people with you it’s less likely you would get a letter or disfelowshiped. He really doesn’t care if you leave, but if you try to steal the family jewels he’s after you. After all, you’re already gone in fact, but he takes exception if you cause trouble. Ron doesn’t take it personally if most people leave , but it’s who you try to influence that would be a problem. If you leave quietly, then everyone can wildly speculate on why you left. Either you were jealous of someone, or you didn’t want to keep the Sabbath or tithe. Rarely if ever would they surmise you left because he’s a false prophet.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Hi all, just stopping by to wish everyone a belated Merry Christmas! Here’s to an awesome 2017 :).

    Corey is starting school in the new year, god the time has flown by!

    All well here.

    Much love to you all! xx

  • Eric says:

    Hi Kirrily

    Great to hear from you. Thanks for the update. Ron may sermonize as much as he wants but you are living proof that people are much better out of the church than in. Huge numbers have seen that now and his ship has so many holes that he is desperate to plug the leaks.

    The cracks continue to show in his latest sermon –

    Ron gets something wrong in his book

    “Now, this is the change that has to take place in the book. It’s not early because there was an early fast. That was the first fast on the first weekend. I believe it was January the 3rd that year of 2009 when we had the fast for the Church to introduce, to talk about, to prepare them for the fast to follow at the end of the month and we had two days of fasting. So anyway, that’s going to be changed to, actually, “late.” It’s going to be changed to “late” rather than “early.”

    Ron gets something wrong in his sermon –

    So what I just read completed that period? Good. Excellent!) Because I copied some things down and I didn’t put it in a good place in my notes, so I apologize for that. What I’m wanting to do, what I was attempting to do, which I may have really messed up here.

    People start asking what else could Ron be wrong about. That’s why PKG members have been leaving so much lately, Ron has been showing them the human in him and humans make mistakes just he admitted in this latest sermon. That’s why they are choosing to exit and speaking against him. A human can be criticized and that is what Ron shows every time he says “I believe”, “I think”, “perhaps”, “maybe”, about the 2019 date. This latest sermon has just opened the door a little wider.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Kirrily! It’s great to hear from you again! My time does fly! Your young one is starting school already?? Well, it’s been nearly two years (March) since I left PKG, and life is much better without them for sure!

    Merry Christmas to you and lets hope 2017 brings you continued happiness and success!

    Eric! That’s an interesting take from Ron’s sermon and his “mistakes”. I’ve been thinking for a while that the veil is lifting on Ron’s “prophecy” and how wrong and out of step it is. I’m hoping that in the coming year when things continue to “not happen” as Ron would like, PKG’ers eyes will be opened that much more and they take that final step and leave.

    A couple weeks ago, I decided to reach out and contact someone that I last spoke to around the middle of last year. He knows about this site as I directed him here, and he was quite annoyed with what he saw here. He went on so far as to say that he would not be giving any more money to Ron, and if they were to out him out over it so be it. I mentioned nothing about leaving the church and why, just some info about what’s been going on with me, the job, and health wise.

    Well, it took a while and I didn’t hear back from him, then the other day he did write back. Seems as though he’s still in the church, and he went on to say that he’s sorry that we no longer correspond, but either he’s committed to the church or he isn’t. He wasn’t mean in his answer back, just answered to what I wrote him, and let it go at that.

    So even after all of what he’s seen, he’s still there which shows that the Kool-Aid is quite potent, and hopefully the harsh cold reality of 2019 NOT taking place will hit quite hard. It’ll be a bit painful to know one’s been duped all this time, but at the same time a BIG relief once the realization sets in that they’re no longer tied to Ron and company and their lying ways.

    Anyway, time will tell…………….maybe Ron’s got the early stages of Alzheimers he’s getting so forgetful??

    Who knows………………..

  • Byker Bob says:

    By the simple law of averages, FNM, sooner or later, one or some of these so-called leaders has to be affected by Alzheimer’s. Of course, that runs counter to their belief, because seemingly a Spirit-filled mind would be immune to the Heimer’s, so it would be interesting to watch them attempt to spin it. If one of the leaders of any of the one horse operations gets it, logic would seem to indicate that that leader had been, as Deuteronomy puts it, “presumptuous”.

    BB

  • FedUp says:

    I can see how someone can be duped by a cult. Most of us were in one of the COGs at one time or another but left when we got a peek behind the curtain. But I’ll never understand someone who can take an honest look around and know what’s happening but decide to stay anyway. To what can we chalk that up? Is it loneliness? Do people feel so disconnected and unloved that they would choose to stay with what they know to be a cult rather than free themselves?

  • Fooled No More says:

    Fed Up, I know of someone else in PKG that was following Ron’s trial right here on this blog. In fact, they were telling what they were seeing to others (I myself wouldn’t know for more than two years). What’s amazing is that she is STILL THERE! Still there after seeing Ron’s conviction, still there after seeing Ron thrown in jail, still there after seeing May 27, 2012 come and go without as much as a whimper.

    She was someone else I sent a letter to just yesterday. In the letter I mentioned nothing about the church, no reasons as to why I left—–sort of the same kind of letter I sent to the other fellow. As of yet, I’ve gotten no reply back, and I won’t be surprised if she never does answer in return.

    You mentioned about those that might feel disconnected? Yes! this particular lady has all but alienated everyone in her family including her own son. So PKG is really all she has. Now I’m speaking from the assumption that she is still there——-she’s not proven me wrong so far, and if she had left earlier, I’m sure I would have heard from her in some fashion by now.

    It’s just sad for those that have seen with their own two eyes, the corruption that is PKG and yet still sit there every Saturday and listen to Ron (or whoever) and send them money.

    So in a sense yes………….some folks rather stay ignorant and be conned than to truly free themselves.

    I should add that I remember in a conversation with the other fellow last year, that he thought that PKG was still God’s true Church”, it’s just that Ron would not be the one ultimately leading it, instead it would perhaps be Wayne or Johnny. I then told him that both of them are just as guilty as Ron as they too see the corruption, but not a one of them has spoken out against it, or has left altogether.

    So much for that…………

  • Ozymandias says:

    They’re all operating under a fear factor. They would be afraid to leave no matter what happened or what Ron did. They feel that just after they” fell away” the Lord would come with all his “gifts.” They falsely assume that the Lords “gifts” will come thru Ron and not Jesus Christ. People feel that without a support group they would break the Sabbath and start keeping pagan holidays all the while eating a ham sandwich. This may be true for people who really didn’t fully believe in these things, but for those who truly believe it, these things simply go on as before. You just go it alone or with a smaller group. If you fall apart, then what did you really believe in? I’ll tell you what. The church. They believe in the church. Not in what they read in the Bible, but rather the physical organization that Ron founded. No Ron, no church, no belief system. It may not be easy to go on alone, but it’s not impossible, and I would rather be alone than follow someone who doesn’t have a clue. At least I know what’s true and what’s a lie.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Well, this is very very encouraging!

    As I have stated in the past, “time is now his greatest enemy”.

    Oh, by the way, the Feast of Tabernacles for 2017 will be in Orlando, Fl.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I knew this was coming.

    It is a difficult thing to manage lies upon lies!

    It brings me great joy to know this lying thief is finally coming to his end.

    Reading the posts today has been great to read.

    Hey Johnny Harrell what is going on!? Wake up and get out of there! Your lying thief is falling down falling down!

    I have nothing to say to you weinland, except, I am taking great pleasure in watching you twisting in the wind!!

  • Randy says:

    Asshole , your going down you f:;kin crook !!!!

  • Linda P says:

    Hi Mike & all-
    I just stopped by to see if there was anything new (I haven’t been on the site in months).
    Has anymore people left PKG?
    I was hoping that the IRS would look deeper into Laura & Audra, as they were involved in the tax fraud as well. (smh)
    Mike, no one can blame you for devoting more time to your family & career. You’ve provided a good service, helping those who want to see the truth, to actually see it.
    It was great meeting you in Covington, KY. It was an interesting day! 😉
    Take care!

  • This all reminds me of the last few months of Dr. Phil (I don’t actually watch that much at a time, a few minutes here and there sporadically): Some poor lady is on the show, just sure she has found the love of her life (usually someone who claims to be trapped in a poor country in Africa, stranded while on a business trip) and has been pouring tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, in some case more than a million dollars into this ‘love’. She is sure of his love, but has never met him. There are always reasons why he can’t make to see her, but her loyalty is unshakeable.

    As the show proceeds, Dr. Phil shows that the photo she got, say from Facebook, is actually hijacked by someone committing identity theft. Furthermore, he shows that the documents this con has provided have been forged. Moreover, he actually sends real live people to the addresses that have been provided and they find that no one even remotely like the person has ever lived or been anywhere in the neighborhood he’s claimed to have been. All communications have be examined and electronic exchanges are checked, but, alas, they can’t be traced back to the source because they’ve been spoofed.

    And yet, no one, not Dr. Phil or her concerned relatives, neighbors and friends can shake her resolve. She knows that some day her prince will come.

    Whatever the bottom line is for these people, they cannot seem to be able to face the truth: They’ve been had and it can only get worse.

    Some of these people have become destitute and have lost all they have. Their ‘love’ can’t even spare them $50 to help out.

    It’s not too different than the scam Conald Swineland has plied upon his hapless followers: He takes everything, gives nothing but false hope and never helps when the chips are down.

    Whatever the bottom line is, whatever it is that these people think they are getting from Swineland, I hope they can wake up sooner than later to escape this emotional extortionist to live their lives free from his unbelievable selfish abuse.

  • CoolAid Man says:

    A fear factor lol. Bet all you haters were Hilary Clinton supporters lol. Im in PKG and have been for 8 years strong. Couldnt help but read thhrough the comments. Ill be sure togive ron and laura a BIG hug for you ALL when i see em soon. Bye

  • martin says:

    CoolAid Man
    Two questions I how you will answer
    1) Ron claims to be one of the Two Witnesses, other then his saying so, what proof does he have for his claim?

    2) Ron has made a number of “official” prophetic announcements, none of which came true. By the Bible definition he is a false prophet. Why would you continue to follow him?

  • Excogger says:

    Breaking news……. Ron’s latest sermon is delivered on You Tube.

    Enjoy!

  • Fooled No More says:

    CoolAid Man, you and I came into PKG right about the same time. I have a number of points to make with you however.

    Is it not true that Ron was convicted and sent to prison for tax fraud never mind the fact that he was/is constantly browbeating every one in the congregation to be “subject to their authorities”?

    You want to give Laura a hug……….while you’re at it, could you tell her that you’d appreciate her not gossiping so much? Haven’t heard it? I have and can write a small book about it. Yet Ron can go and on in sermons about how “we” shouldn’t be gossiping.

    For an organization that claims to be “God’s true church”, why have their been so many marriages and relationships that have broken up, including the marriage of Ron’s own daughter Audra who divorced and remarried so fast the ink was barely dry on the divorce decree?

    Why have so many left the church in what seems to be record numbers since May 27, 2012, and I include myself in that number?

    Where are the “63,000” former members of WWCOG that were supposed to be beating down the doors of PKG by this time according to Ron?

    Why is there such little compassion from him and others in PKG for those truly in need financially/emotionally? The stories are legion and some have led up to ultimate consequences.

    Why has Ron changed his prophecies so much in the last eight years? Where is it in the scriptures does it say one of the Two Witnesses would be very fickle? When did God become so fickle??

    I could go on and on as I have plenty of FACTS to put on display here for all to see.

    Et tu “CoolAid Man”??

  • Fooled No More says:

    For those of you that want to be tortured by this you can click here.

    Comments are disabled though………….how convenient!

  • Randy says:

    Coolaid man after you hug her she will trun around and talk about you and check and make sure your wallet is still in your pocket !

  • hawkeye says:

    CoolAidMan…can i sit next to you during the next sermon ??….i need a good laugh

  • hawkeye says:

    LOL..just clicked on the sermon on youtube,,,,my comments……( )……
    nice suit tho

  • martin says:

    Watching Ron is unbearable.

  • I watched the first minute or so. Great looking expensive suit and tie.

    Of course, you know, I watched, but the sound was off.

  • Randy says:

    Just think this asshole told his sheep don’t have no more babies my family would be sick with out are new baby, my mom love this baby , and Ron and Laura will never know what it feels like , they have no grandchildren or love in there life , just pure greed !

  • Enough is Enough says:

    CoolAid Man:

    Really!!?? What kind of hopium have you been injected with?

    I am an ex-elder of that foul organization of weinland.

    Where would you like to start? 2008, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2019? Federal prison, 63,000 former members, death curses, etc etc etc.

    Tell you what – stop giving that lying thief your money and watch what will happen to you!!! Got the guts – coolaid man!!??

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Let’s put it on the table coolaid man!! Show the evidence that your idol is what he says he is!!

  • martin says:

    He was just a drive by.

    He can’t provide any proof as there isn’t any. There is nothing to support Ron’s claim, except “he said so”.

    Aside from his tax crimes, and serving jail time, there is much bible proof that shows that Ron is false through and through.

    All the prophecies regarding Christ….you know what? They all got fulfilled just as it was written in the OT.

    Has Ron fulfilled a singe iota of any prophecy????? Only one, that of a false prophet deceiving many.

  • Ozymandias says:

    He stops tithing to Ron ( and yes, you are tithing to Ron ) his 8 years strong would be over soon enough. That’s the foremost doctrine of Rons church. They claim you tithe to God, but Ron is the one who spends all “Gods” money. Ron used to preach about people being asleep, and no one on the planet is more asleep than his people. But it’s winter and who doesn’t like a nice long nap?

  • Fooled No More says:

    I was talking with a friend of mine (former PKG’er) the other day, and we were thinking that “CoolAid Man) could be Ron himself. Most if not all in PKG are fearful to come on this site, but I know for a fact that there are Elders (including Ron) that come on here to see what’s being said.

    How else to explain how Ron would incorporate what’s being said here into his sermons?

    We’ll never know for sure, but it’s interesting that he hasn’t been back here since his trolling post. No, we have too much ammo here to blow him and other trolls out of the water, so they’d be smart to think twice lest the pure facts about PKG get in the way. 😉

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I find it interesting that the lying thief’s “you tube” have the comments disabled.

    What are you afraid of weinland!? Afraid you will get slaughtered like you did on facebook. You are desperate now, aren’t you. Membership is failing and the income is not what it used to be.

    It is obvious that you are the cursed one and will die with no heir apparent and broke. Time to pay the devil his dues weinland!!

    Fooled No More ~ I had the same thought.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Eight years strong, coolaid man. I may know who your are.

    It really does not matter because you are the one who is still duped by the lying thief. I would welcome a contest of wills with you. You will not be able to best me because I know the lying thief and his whatever wife personally. I know their lies and tactics to enslaved and rob. Weinland is a liar and I will have no trouble in proving it. Can you do the same, coolaid man?

    Want to give it a try ~ coolaid man!?

  • martin says:

    Regarding Ron’s youtube post. Comments are disabled, but you are still free to give a thumbs down to the video.

  • martin says:

    That is, under the count for the number of views, there are thumbs up and thumbs down icons you can pick to give your approval or lack of approval of the video.

  • Excogger says:

    Wow! Unbelievable! It blows my mind!

    Women may now give the Opening Prayer!

    Dumbfounded…..

  • Fooled No More says:

    Wow that is a first! Women giving opening prayers was a big no-no the whole time I was in PKG. I wonder when that started??

  • Enough is Enough says:

    This lying thief weinland is desperate.

    He needs converts for the cash flow. What better way than to attract women to the liberalized lying theology of liar weinland.

    We all know this scum will stoop to nothing to keep the cash flowing. You watch, he will be changing other doctrines as well to attract whatever he can. Eventually, he will go protestant to get what he can. Right now, this course of armstrongism is not working for him, it is failing.

    Desperate men do desperate things!!

  • martin says:

    Here is what Ron is doing…Ron is trying to build up excuses for his failed prophecies….

    No 7000 non-PKGers dropping dead (keep in mind this was supposed to happen before the GT)
    No 63000 non-PKGers joining up and becoming PKG members.

    No GT.

    So even though Ron and Ron’s church prayed for the deaths of millions *you know* through earthquakes and plagues and warfare…..none of it happened…

    So Ron’s cloaking this failure as God’s mercy. God is certainly merciful….but this has nothing to do with Ron’s failed prophecies…it has to do with Ron being a clueless false prophet.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Every time he’s wrong he will give his “God is merciful ” excuse. Well, God is merciful, but it’s a cover up for Rons failures. Some people just can’t be wrong. PKG is full of them. To admit you were wrong to family and friends is difficult. Easier to keep going along with the lies. We just don’t need these men or churches to have a relationship with God, but they will never admit that. Its all about the money. Just stop sending it in and tell Ron you’re helping a starving old lady and see what happens. Tithing is Rons most important doctrine. No money, no Ron.

  • Randy says:

    Maybe after 20 years the gossip queen money whore learned how to give a prayer !

  • martin says:

    Ron is making up the rules as he goes along.

    Of course, according to the bible instructions, women are not permitted to speak.

    By “speak” it’s talking about from the pulpit, that is preaching a sermon or giving a prayer. It is not talking about fellowshipping.

    So Ron is above God, in that he can countermand things God Himself commands, in very plain and clear instructions from the bible. Ron couches this heresy in “love speak”. It is to free women of whatever. But if you’re going by the instructions of the bible, it is clear, and OF COURSE Ron knows this, it is clear that women are not to preach from the pulpit or give prayers from the pulpit.

    I think what Ron has done, overturning commands and instructions from God, qualifies as blasphemy.

  • Randy says:

    Ron
    Is setting everything up for His daughter !

  • Excogger says:

    Good point, Randy!
    Not that we’ve heard many prophecies from the world’s third-greatest prophet.
    Yep, keep it in the family.

    Just keep donating your cash to the Weinland Family Enterprise, PKGers!

  • martin says:

    Don’t prophets prophesy?????

    There’s not a single prophet in the bible, who does not prophesy.

    Where are the prophecies from Ron? (he stopped because he was too embarrassed to do it anymore)
    Where are the prophecies from Laura? (none)
    Where are the prophecies from Audra? (none)

    So you have 3 prophets that don’t prophesy….

    AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Actually what is going on is that there are more women then men in weinland’s cult.

    Hey liar weinland! Where all the men going!? It will not be long and it will be only laura and her merry band of women!!!

    Where are you loser weinland!!??

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Where have all the husbands gone, long time passing?
    Where have all the husbands gone, long time ago?
    Where have all the husbands gone?

    Where did they go liar weinland? Was it your domineering wife’s doing or all your lying wonders?

  • Fooled No More says:

    LOL EIE!

    Yeah, even when I was in, I noticed that there were more women than men at services. Not to be sexist by any means, but the men were smart to either not get sucked in by Weinland, or get out while the gettin’ was good!

  • martin says:

    LOL, EIE….

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Not really, I got out, but my then husband stayed. He left me when the church told him not to be married to an unbeliever. after all he was sending in thousands each month that I could trace. I know at one time he cashed out his business and personal accounts and sent them over $30,000. Why keep it, the end was coming. I used to tell him if Ron told you to jump off a roof would you? He would say yes, cause the end was tomorrow anyway. Then a few days latter I brought in a wheel chair and said, Just think this could be your’s. He found no humor in it. I did.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Good for you!! I love your humor!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Here we are liar wienland, January 2017

    Tick Tick Tick Tick inch by inch step by step the closer we get to the revealing of another lie and failed prediction of 2019 Tick Tick Tick Tick

    Has the cold sweat started yet liar weinland? Don’t worry it will!

    Where are you liar weinland!!??

  • Randy says:

    The asshole’s sheep are getting old, and no young kids , money is going to run out !!!

  • Randy says:

    Can someone tell me one thing the asshole or money whore said in last 12 years came true , just asking ?

  • hawkeye says:

    only one ????…dont make it so hard randy

  • Enough is Enough says:

    x-4=0 Solve for x

    x=0+4

    x= 4

    answer: 4-4=0

  • martin says:

    Nobody said there would be math involved.

  • Ronco says:

    “Nobody said there would be math involved. ”

    A tithe to Ron is 10%…

    Come on PKG, Please Keep Giving!!!

    Hi Ron! How’s the cash flow lately?

  • Excogger says:

    Hi Ron.

    Why don’t you do some homework about tithing?

    The tithe (singular) went to the Levites ( Public Servants ).

    The Levites paid 10% of this to the Priesthood ( That’s you ).

    You are, if you are a descendent of Aaron, possibly entitled to 1%. If you are in Israel. If the Israelis don’t lock you up with other religious kooks who are arguably delusional.

    “Thou shalt not steal.”

  • Ronald Weinland is a faint echo of David Miscavige, being self-serving, arrogant, narcissistic, but without the charisma to attract and hold as many as 25,000 people hostage.

    As you know, A&E has a documentation series featuring Leah Remini giving compelling and damning evidence (a sample can be seen here).

    It’s surprising, but not unlike those in the series, CoolAid Man manages to be a really stupid obvious apologist for no ascertainably good reason.

    And we have to ask, “What’s with that?”.

  • Randy says:

    Money is all they are worried about no God !!!!

  • As Conald Swineland gets older and descends into senile dementia (how could we tell the difference), someone should follow the pattern set by the PCG minister who told a member with a disabled child to leave it in a shopping mall so someone could find it and take care of it.

    So it is with Swineland, when he becomes old and disabled with dementia, someone should take him to a shopping mall — someone is just BOUND to find him take care of him, although, he is a bit long in the tooth for child protective services.

    Sadly he won’t have access to all those luxuries to which he’s become accustomed, but it might not make any difference seeing as though he won’t remember what he’s lost.

    Sort of like his prophecies.

  • Randy says:

    Amen Doug

  • The Biblical command is to mark those who cause divisions.

    Have we disfellowshipped Weinland yet?

    There are so many of them that we tend to forget….

  • Byker Bob says:

    This should go beyond the normal marking that accompanies an Armstrongite disfellowshipment. That would be too good and too easy for Ronald Weinland! He should be allowed to choose between some other Biblical marks, like the mark of Cain or the mark of the beast!

    BB

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    UPDATE:

    Hello folks! I know I said I wasn’t going to follow the ranting of our old friend Zerubabbel The Blue Tasseled Nitwit Who Wears A Towel On His Head… BUT… a friend of mine alerted me to his latest “spiritual” plan. Zerubabbel, whose real name is Michael Noordhoek, of Saint Johns AZ… now has… a GOFUNDME page! LMAO!

    “God” has told him to start a GoFundMe to raise $80,000 so Michael can build the necessary facilities for all the people that are supposed to flock to his ramshackle tent and escape the great day of God;s Wrath which will happen 249 days from now. Michael also says he needs at LEAST $18,000 dollars to to be able to hire someone to drill a well, be able to afford feed for a little flock of ogats or sheep, and he wants to plant a garden, because of course its for OTHERS… and only “coincidently” supports him of course without him having to go out and put down the towel form his head and get a JOB and work.

    Michael is desperate and now “god” wants him to set up a GoFundMe page. LMAO!! He has earned a whooping $75 dollars in 5 days. Looks like “God’s” Big Plan for Michael is off to a predictably stupid start. No surprise… Michael broke away from Weinland… whose own imaginary god is a failure too.

    https://www.gofundme.com/gatheringthescattereddescendantsofisrael

  • Randy says:

    Hahaha
    Hey Avo

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Hey Randy,

    Not only is Michael a delusional idiot, but with a sharp eye/Google maps you can see the tiny dung pile he calls the “holiest place on Earth”. I’ll bet the locals hate his guts, as he would no doubt have to go “the” store dressed in his head towel and prophet robes, and while there bray about his nonsense to anyone around!

    There should be a GoFundMe page for the residents of St Johns to run his lazy, bloated, nitwit butt out of town… LOL!

  • Randy says:

    Lol 🙂

  • Not sure that he’ll ever have enough to hire a mental health professional (he really needs one).

    Maybe Dr. Phil would take him on for free.

    Perhaps Dr. Phil would appeal to him, since he’d see it as an opportunity to proselytize.

    Oh, well, it’s entertaining fantasy that will never happen, and, anyway, how much real harm can he do to himself and others?

    Enough to have him committed?

  • Byker Bob says:

    One of the major take-aways from the old “Sopranos” TV program is that psychological or psychiatric therapy goes the wrong way with certain ones. The therapy only helps them become more effective sociopaths or psychopaths, while increasing their abilities to live with their condition.

    It’s doubtful that therapy, even administered by someone as renowned as Dr. Phil, would work on Ron. It would just make him worse, and more dangerous.

    BB

  • And these days, Dr. Phil has been “pulling his punches”, making him so much less effective. People who are seeking help aren’t really getting it because — just like dealing with Weinland — one of the people on the show is the really really bad guy. It’s obvious. The guy is a criminal, but it’s make nice time and “can’t we all get along” when I get you the counselling you need.

    Bah.

    So what happens is, as you say, the narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths and borderlines get even more cagey with a more full toolkit of abuse, while their victims are told that they have to find a way to make the relationship work.

    One of my greatest reservations about Dr. Phil is how he is so apt to say, “Emotions got you into this and the emotions will get you out of it”, then proceeds to show how facts, data, discipline and objectivity will get people out of ‘it’. It’s the old thing that Albert Einstein told us: When you get into a problem, you need higher [principles] to get you out of it. You can’t have two people sinking in quicksand throwing a rope to each other. You need someone on the shore or in a tree to pull you out, or you’ll sink on your own and having two of you in the same desperate situation isn’t going to help.

    But Armstrongism is worse than that: The ministry finds you in a problem and then pulls you down into their own morass.

    Weinland is frustrating because he’ll stand right there and lie to you, expect you to act on his lies, knowing that you know he’s lying to you. There are some ways to win against him, but many of them are not legal.

  • Ronco says:

    Thanks again for the update on our beloved blue tasseled nitwit, Avalo!

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

  • FedUp says:

    I think we’re missing the big story here–somebody actually DONATED to his Go-Fund-Me page.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Don;t be fooled, FedUp:

    Zerubbael made the donations anonymous so people wouldn’t realize HE donated the second donation. Before he did so the name of the first donator was up, someone named Devin, who could even be the subsidiary nitwit that is actually camping out with Zerubabbel… who is not allowed to fully participate in all the “holiness” yet. So Zerubbael’s decision to make donations anonymous is yet another example of how he has to lie and endlessly bloviate to prop himself up/maintain his delusional grandeur.

    Zerubabbel’s GoFundMe page is my new favorite comedy websites. There is nothing more entertaining that watching Zerubabbel, who has endlessly called us all names and proclaimed how “evil” e all are by not supporting him….. BEGGING FOR OUR SUPPORT. He is almost literally saying, “You are all doomed and evil and going to die… and I BEG you to keep me from starving to death and becoming homeless because no one believes me!!”

    “You’re all garbage… HELP!!!!!!!”

    LMFAO!!!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    ALSO:

    1. He says there are only (now) 242 days before God delivers his wrath and destroys everything. BUT IF ZERUBABBEL REALLY BELIEVED any of the wet goat feces that are plopping out of his mouth, he would NOT NEED the well and the garden and supplies to the range of $80,000… his GoFundMe goal!! It takes more than 240 days to get a long term, sustainable garden established, one big enough to actually feed you.

    1.5.Plus he lives in St Johns. The soil in that area is alkaline and caliche-based, basically gravel and salt!! You would need a TON of compost and goat shit and a LOT of backbreaking digging to keep even a tiny garden alive. And to get it up and running under/by 242 days. Zerubabbel is an out of shape, lazy nitwit. And now he is going to try and grow vegetables in gravelly salt!!! What a total and complete %^&$#-ing idiot! And he doesn’t even have the WELL dug or started!!! And this big plan of his is supposedly for hundreds of people to come live with him… Nobel Prize for Nitwits in his future!

    2. He says,”As of the first of January our Maker has put circumstances in our pathway that have created a very real and present need for a well in order for us to be able to water our flock that He has given to us as well as to provide waters for ourselves to drink and to plant and have a garden to bring forth the produce that will result from it.” “GOD” made his life difficult so he had to ask US, those he has endlessly bad mouthed and threatened with death if we didn’t give him money!

    3. SO LET’S REVIEW… Zerubbabel doesn’t trust god to help him, God himself has intentionally make his life difficult, he has no idea he can;t actually build a sustainable garden, and he is BEGGING us to save him! Our “job: is to save an angry divine death threat uttering towel wearing nitwit soon to be failed farmer whose own god makes him suffer. LMFAO!!

    Hey Zerubabbel… instead making your own GoFundMe page … why not come visit my GoF***Yourself page?

  • Byker Bob says:

    Too funny! His agricultural prowess reminds me of back when we were kids. Some of the farmers in our local church areas would allow their cows to graze in the garlic patch. When they gave some of their firstfruits to my dad, it was a real chore to gag down the milk. On the other hand, their hand churned butter was good in some applications.

    Zerrubbabel would be better off studying hydroponics in his area. Where I live in the desert, we’ve got to use ironite once a year to chase the natural salts that rise to topsoil level back deeper into the ground. Otherwise, the plants and shrubs get choked out and don’t thrive as they would in more agriculturally friendly soils.

    BB

  • Barry says:

    Woman are speaking now in opening or closing Prayers as there are no men left to speak of. As to the prophecies of the 3rd great prophet – daughter Audrey, I just re-read the transcripts of her testimony from the trial. She is a blithering uneducated fool. Quite a laugh to say that one with zero Biblical knowledge is number 3 in prophetic ability. Wake up PKG to the simplest of realities – YOU ARE BEING CONNED. Your 3rd in rank and power is a biblical illiterate and not the sharpest knife in the drawer where everything else that matters is concerned. READ THE TRANSCRIPTS!

    There will be NO growth externally nor internally as their teens drop out the second they reach 18, proof they are much smarter than their parents/grandparents raising them! None of their kids have stayed and I am speaking to a few SENIOR ELDERS. Please wake up!

  • What a joke says:

    Speaking of prayer. did you read or listen to who they made a pastor.
    So again, Sabbath services last week began by a woman, Beth Bucheit, who had been ordained to the level of pastor in God’s Church, the second such woman to be ordained to that position, who gave
    the opening prayer to begin Sabbath services. Momentous! Awesome! Just the fact that two in God’s Church have been ordained to that level within the ministry is an awesome thing, an incredible thing. It’s never happened, never happened in God’s Church before, not in 2,000 years. So this is incredible for God’s Church and it sets us apart farther and farther, a greater gulf between us and the Church that was scattered

    I’ll say it sets them apart. It is sad when you take a person of her true character and makes them a pastor. That shows just how far off they are. It proves God is really not there if they have to go to the bottom of the barrel to find preachers. Set back and watch all you men she will rule over you with a iron fist.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    How insane is this!!!

    Really Beth!?

    So now it is out with the testosterone and in with the estrogen!! It is the grand march of laura and her merry band of women!!!

    Ronnie, is your heart getting weak and knowing that Jeremy is not gong to follow in your foot steps causing your heart to flutter? Never Fear!! We have laura the wonder women and her sidekick audra!!!!

    This is one sick sick group.

  • martin says:

    Do these women actually do anything? Or does Ron just give out titles like candy to these women?

    (He used to do it with men, but it seems they’re abandoning the sinking ship.

  • With any luck, FemiNazis will take over the PKG and oust Swineland.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    wonder women laura weinalnd is a feminazie!! She has always been in the process of turning pkg into a church for women only. Her only problem is that she need a male figure at the top for the delusion of being spiritually correct. This is the part that loser weinland plays.

    This won’t work wonder women and your tiny empire will collapse!! Have to tell you that you need men in order to make it work, but, as we see, they are leaving.

  • Randy says:

    Laura , the Gossipping bitch always ran everything any was , that’s why they called her the money ho !

  • martin says:

    Zerubabbel raised his goal from $80K to $280K

    This guy became greedy super fast.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    LMFAO!

    Zerubbabel says: “The Most High originally led me to select the target objective of $80,000 for this fund raising endeavor, this was based upon the 80 days (the appointed time) of His Nazarite vow however 10 days later He led me to up the ante to $280,000. He has also showed me that when we get to the end of the 1st appointed time that another 0 will be added to this amount and likewise when we get to the end of the 2nd appointed time and the 3rd bringing the total to 28,000,000 by the time that we get to the last half a time waypoint (the 40 days left to go waypoint).

    1. 28 MILLION!!! What a complete idiot! This nitwit “needs” 28 million in the next 200 plus days for his salt garden

    2. God told him to “up the ante”… which is a GAMBLING term meaning HE inadvertently ADMITTED what I know to be true. HE HIMSELF donated the second amount. An ante is what YOU put into a game of poker, he amount YOU put up before the the cards are drawn. So if he is upping the ante, HE has to put int he 280,000 or the 28 MILLION!

    He then says: “I can assure you that this is not a joke, as of 10 days into this fund raising campaign there have been only two people that have donated a total of $75 so obviously most of you think that it is a laughing matter….”

    3. He needs to “assure us” that asking for 28 million dollars that he will only need for 200 days until God destroys everything is no joke, and yet we somehow have magically come to the “erroneous” conclusion that this is a laughing matter! LOL!

    Zerubabbel is crying because we won’t give him 28 million, and Laura Weinland and her mushrooming coven are slowly neutering Ron the Con…

    … ahh, COG theology… never a dull moment…

    Looks like Michael big GoFundMe campaign is becoming a ComeMockMe campaign, and he is not happy about it!

  • “mushrooming coven”? What a wonderful idea! Which brings me to my recipe for lasagna.

    You have to use the quality whole wheat lasagna for this to work.

    Bottom layer: Nonfat yoghurt. On top of that a layer of lasagna.

    The next layer is a bit complex: Soak beans and lentils for two days in chicken broth. Add in fresh chopped yellow onion. Put in whole garlic cloves. Add sliced jalapenos. After soaking, add strained tomatoes (with juice). A little white pepper and rosemary are nice. Pressure cook for 35 minutes.
    Put this in the layer.

    Add another layer of lasagna.

    On top of this, spread layer of no added sugar pasta sauce. Top with mushrooms. Top that with cheese (asiago works nicely, so does mozzarella. Heck, use both).

    Bake in preheated oven at 350 degrees for 1 hour.

    Note that the lasagna does not need to be precooked and will absorb the moisture from the yoghurt and pasta sauce.

    This recipe from the “mushrooming coven”. Enjoy.

    I suppose that makes me a warlock (I’m also an apostle, long story).

    Do you know that there is a realtor who has absolutely no problem being a good Roman Catholic and a warlock? He’s a Wiccan. The Wiccans probably can be compatible with lots of religions.

    Heaven only knows that Laura Weinland is a witch… in so many ways. Not that should in any way be construed that Wiccans are bad people. In any group a bad person is bound to show up sooner or later… especially FeminNazis….

    PS: I’m not a Wiccan. It’s just that I favor mushrooms. Edible ones, anyway.

  • hawkeye says:

    oh boy a recipe ..yummmy ..now all i need is $100000 for a tomatoe plant and buy a head of lettuce so i can make a salad …please donate

  • I’m so sorry — before you cook the beans (and other stuff) in the pressure cooker, add red balsamic vinegar.

    And no, hawkeye, you don’t need $100000 for the recipe. You have Champagne tastes on a water budget (Armand de Brignac Brut Rose Champagne costs $9,799.98 per bottle plus shipping [you can save on shipping if you buy in bulk]).

    I’ll bet even Herbert Armstrong didn’t have much of that stuff. But if he did, we paid for it (just like PKG members paid for everything Weinland had from his Luxury Fun…d).

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    That recipe looks great.

    Now what god wants all of you to do is give me 436 BILLION dollars so I can make this lasagna to feed the lost tribes of Israel. And by ‘make lasagna I mean buy a couple hundred new homes, and a fleet of Lamborghinis and buy stock and a couple thousand small jets… and by feed the lost tribes of Israel I mean go have a ton of fun with my family flying all over the world… and don’t you dare deny me my 436 billion… because it is god’s will because I told you it was.

    See? It is easy to be a COG leader!

  • OK then, you can take over for Victor Kubic….

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    God has told me that I will take over for Vic Kubik when you all give me 963 TRILLION dollars. Trust me, god really wants you to give me 963 trillion dollars. It would really please him… he would really think it is great. See? I am just doing what god wants! 😉

  • Sigh.

    There used to be a time when people struggled with the concept of Billions of dollars.

    How long will it take them to get used to trillions?

    Quadrillions of dollars, anyone.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    You have raised a great point, Herr Becker!

    God just told me that you all have to give me 741 Quadrillion dollars so I can prepare the Place of Safety for the COGs. God told me that you have to give me the money because he needs me to buy Iceland and turn the entire city of Reykjavik into one giant house… for the Lord, with each block a separate room for all the supplies necessary… for the Lord. Plus I will need a fleet of boats and planes and helicopters and yachts to travel around the planet drinking vodka and smoking cigars for the Lord, snorkeling in Turks and Caicos for the Lord and buying a Formula One racing team for the Lord, and all the other divine acts that God told me I must do and you must support me in or else he will throw you all into the lake of Fire. Personally I find it incredible how God works his message and hsi timing into what he tells me… how easy it is to be a COG leader! Then , when I feel like it, I will invite all the COGS to the Place of Safety on the condition that they all throw themselves into Hekla Volcano to prove their loyalty… to the Lord.. first… You can’t deny fact, it is god’s will!

    Oh, and Pack, FLurry, Meredith, Weinland, Thiel Malm, and all their flunkies have to dance semi-naked in women;s underwear in a chorus line with dunce caps on their heads, until they drop from exhaustion, before they prove their loyalty to god by swimming from Iceland to Greenland and back with a 200 pound bag of COG literature tied to their left leg… for the Lord.

    See? It is easy to be a COG leader!!

  • Sorry, on the advice of Dr. James Milam, the vodka is out.

  • You will be reimbursed according to our established per diem rates.

    The vodka is disallowed.

    The total of your per diem reimbursement, including the tax is $12.94.

    We hope that this answers any questions you have of our office.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Meanwhile, in his latest research, Bob Thiel studies a collection of ritual alcohol-enema scenes on classic Mayan pottery, and ponders the implications these may have on end-times prophecy.

    BB

  • Be certain to get your requests for per diem in as early as possible.

    Payments may be delayed significantly due to the rise of identity theft.

    In fact, be prepared to provide full documentation that you are Zerubbabel and not some identity thief.

    Your returns will be not be processed until submissions are complete.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    But… but… Douglas…

    You don;t understand god’s government and authority and how god works… you just give me 9846 quadrillion dollars because… the Bible and authority and Herbert Armstrong and 1972 and Mystery of the Missing Dimension in British Sex and Bricketwood and Nimrod!! God wants you all to give me this money or else I can’t spread the Armstrong in Las Vegas.

    God needs me to have jets… and if you can;t see that you are deceived and in 2019 or 2020, or 2039, or 2099 or any of the other years Jesus will return for sure after that… you will be sorry because you won;t get to wear a special hat and have your own planet.

    See? It’s easy to be a COG leader!! 🙂

  • Scripture basically says that after Noah, God has pretty much left government to mankind. Humanity has to work it out. He doesn’t interfere. He wants to see what we do with what we have.

    So far it’s pretty disappointing.

    To think that people would continue to follow a man who has had all of his prophecies fail miserably and then convicted of being a felon, spending 3 years in prison has to be as perplexing to God as it is to the rest of us.

    In the meantime, it is probably unwise to take advantage of people who are incapable of perceiving the truth: You never know when He might figure it all out and when He does, He maybe mighty ticked.

    I would not want to get crosswise with Him when He does.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    You are so right, Douglas… after Noah, God left government to me,as I am who god chose to be at the head of mankind because god told me to tell you.

    Thus, the world’s combined financial worth, roughly 4 Quadrillion dollars, should be given to me because the Old Testament and Herbert and prophecy and the two Witnesses and 2019 and I need to buy Iceland to build a 20 square mile house because of the United States and Britain in the Plain Tomorrow. So everyone send all their money to me… trust me, it is a great idea!!

    Douglas, you should join me in making a COG church… all you need is three lies and a few scared nitwits…

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Loser weinland you are a living joke!!

    All this bluster about you being a prophet is nothing but pure crap!! You have lied and thieved money from innocent people including the government and was sentenced to spend three years plus in federal prison for the crime of multiple counts of tax fraud. You a perfect example of a lying hypocrite and worse!!

    The point is this: show yourself!! Are you a fraud or not!? The problem is that you are a lying thief and a true fraud!! Playing this silly preacher game on You Tube is laughable!! Who in their right mind wants to listen to two hours of your dribble!? This scheme will fail just like the facebook episode did. People today have had their fill of frauds like yourself. What little success you have had will soon disappear and it will be good ridden to a lying thief.

    Maybe you and that foul progeny Zerubbabel that you spawned should get together and prophesy and rake in the cash together. Zerubbabel is what you created with all of your insane proclamations and false prophesies. Why not join forces with him and get in on the “go fund me” scam. Fools will rush in and empty their cash into the scam! What do you have to lose weinland!?

    Didn’t you say that you would be known and feared? Well, were the hell are you loser weinland?

    tick tock tick tock time is running out loser weinland!!

  • Excogger says:

    Dear E I E..

    Mr Weinland is enjoying some R & R in Hawaii.

    It’s not easy being a false prophet. The competition is pretty strong these days.

  • martin says:

    What happened to correcting the world? Being empowered? All the plagues you were supposed to pronounce as a prophet? Revelation says they can do this as often as they wish…what happened? I know you want to bring all these plagues on the world by your hand, but nothing happened.

    MAYBE…MAYBE you’re utterly a false prophet.

    You couch these failures as “God’s mercy”, sounds great doesn’t it?! God is certainly merciful, but it has nothing to do with your complete failure as a prophet.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Everytime there is some sort of anomaly or radical departure, Armstrongite preachers exploit it to make it appear as if the Armstrong prophecy mold were suddenly unfolding. Their problem is that the message never really breaks out and goes beyond the old membership of classic WCG, nor does the mainstream perceive or acknowledge the message. It’s darned near invisible. People are still able to preach it and become millionaires with it because the old WCG people are committed to tithing, but that is pretty much all that happens with it. It’s like blowing out a warning on a dog whistle that humans can’t hear. Those around he blower of the whistle know that it is being blown, but the warning is inaudible to humans.

    If the policies of Barrack Obama or Donald Trump were the beginning of the end, any warning put out by any of the Armstrong groups will have been totally ineffective except as a money maker for those preaching it. And the time limitations on that are even rapidly coming to a close with continued splintering and ridiculous levels of prophecy failure.

    BB

  • Eric says:

    You might be interested in a statistic and a confirmation of something many people have said after listening to Ron’s sermons.

    I copied and pasted all the text of Part 3 of The Rightful Place of Women into a word analysis program found at –

    https://wordcounttools.com/

    It puts the text in the Dale-Chall Readability level Readability at that of a 7th -8th grade student. How many times have we heard that people find it difficult to listen to him for long periods of time.

    He also used the word incredible 27 times. Incredible!

    He is no Shakesphere.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    This “rightful place of a women” is a rehash of an earlier sermon when loser wienland first authorized the ordination of women.

    Loser weinland does not have any new material. It is all rehash of rehash. That is why it is so so boring – rehash of rehash!!

    What is the cause of this rehash weinland? Has the midnight visits of a spirit quit? Remember it was you loser weinland that made that statement in 2011 relating to the prediction of the return on May 2012 that crashed and burned. I know because I was there and heard it.

    So now all you have is the “rehash” of all the lies, lies, and more lies!

  • Yes, the rehash has been left out of the refrigerator too long and now has become even more toxic.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Yes, the putrid smell is overwhelming.

  • martin says:

    While we’re at it, why don’t we have children give the opening prayer?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Just give it time. Wacky weinland will stoop to anything to keep the cash coming.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Weinland will indeed stoop to or say anything to keep the cash coming.

    Check out this rare 2010 interview on Spanish television in which a reporter asks Weinland about the failure of his prophecies and Weinland reacts in his usual manner:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0Bt2cbcc8

  • Byker Bob says:

    These people don’t seem to care about false timelines, inaccuracies, and false prophecie along the way, just so long as ultimately the economy collapses, disease epidemics hit, and the Germans arrive to take English-speaking nations into captivity. They allow their leaders to get away with all manner of mistakes and falsehoods in order to maintain a sense of urgency, imagining that eventually they will be vindicated by the substance of Armstongism actually coming to pass. That’s about the only way we could explain the farce we’ve been watching unfold, and the fact that some are unfazed by all of the stupid lies and mistakes they willingly allow their leaders to get away with. They expect vindication on the basic theme.

    BB

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Well, let’s see.

    It has now been one year since the nonessential false prophet weinland was released from federal prison. Plus it has been fourteen months since the nonessential false prophet was self appointed to be one of the two witnesses but is sidekick wife is questionable.

    Has anyone heard or seen these two nonessential falsities? Has the nonessential false prophet weinland held a reconciliation summit with all of the splinter groups of the former Worldwide Church of God? Has anyone seen or heard anything of this?

    Time is running out for you weinland! Are you in the process of formulating a new set of lies and falsehoods to justify yourself for your lack of leadership in the global community, not to mention the religious community? Apparently your concept of attempting to use social media as your platform in accomplishing your nonessential mission is faulty.

    It must be a wonderful and an amazing “53rd truth” to understand that you and your wife really are “nonessential”!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    BB:

    The nonessential cog-pkg is extremely desperate for their nonessential leader (weinland) to be vindicated. But the good news is that some are leaving because of the continuing lying and failures of this lying thief.

    It must be debilitating to have to constantly create new lies and deceptions. He made his own bed!!

  • FedUp says:

    A year since his prison release? How long is he on parole?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I couldn’t bring up the sentencing order on this site. I believe it was three years.

  • martin says:

    Have any of the women ordained as pastors given a sermon yet? I would love to see the results of that.

    Or is Ron just giving out titles like candy? With no purpose or usefulness at all?

    I want to see them exercise their pastoral authority. And see how that works out….

  • Fooled No More says:

    EIE, his parole is up just before Christ’s non return in 2019. Just enough time to once again be wrong, and who knows——-head off for Europe where the kids are, and leaving everyone else here in the states upset………………..again. 🙁

  • Byker Bob says:

    I have no doubt whatsoever that some or all of the women (and I don’t mean Laura or Audra) are capable of giving much better sermons than could Weinland himself. I seriously doubt, as an example, that these women would do anything to deceive or harm their children. These are women whose consciences won’t allow them to lie about Santa Claus, so why would they try to aggrandize themselves by making things up about Jesus Christ? Women have oft been described as being the consciences of society, because of their nurturing role.

    And, EIE, vindication will probably be claimed in the future, but it will never really come. These guys will be strutting around, saying “See??? I was right!” over some very minor, nearly unnoticeable happenings, but their major pronouncements will be as unsatisfying as unrequited love. Look at how some are attempting to redeem HWA’s legacy. They talk about how our tithe moneys which he gave to the Prince’s charities are still accomplishing good around the globe. The sum total of his value and his ministry has been reduced to that! It’s like saying Hitler loved puppies!

    BB

  • So his parole is up in 2019.

    But won’t the United Kingdom still refuse to let him enter because he’s a convicted felon?

    It makes it really difficult when you can preach to the Ephraim British Israelites in person.

  • Hey! Watch it! Sure Hitler had some problems, but not only did he love puppies, he fixed the German economy and got the trains to run on time. The German people really benefited from his leadership… for awhile.

    On the other hand, Weinland hasn’t done anything like that, so we can conclude that he’s worse than Hitler.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Let’s figure:

    This nonessential false prophet weinland stated that he and his wife’s mission of being the two witnesses began on Nov 7, 2015 for a period of 3.5 years. If this is the case, we are now three months into the second year of his prediction for 2019.

    So, where is all the action? Where is the global fear of this nonessential false prophet/witness?

    Lies, lies, and more lies.

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