Duel Test

False Prophet Ronald Weinland has posted most of chapter 6 of his new book on his blog.  In his latest installment, he starts off with the example of God’s test to see whether Abraham was willing to sacrifice Isaac.  This then segues to God’s test of PKG to see whether they would believe that Christ would return on Pentecost of 2012 even though he had already decided that he would send Christ back in 2019.

What really happened was that the god who lives between Ron’s ears decided late in June of 2008 that the return date was in 2012.  This was put on hold by the IRS criminal investigation which Ron learned of the following week when the IRS special agent knocked on his door.  The god between Ron’s ears later decided that the date was in 2019 since Ron had to finish serving his prison sentence, but only after failures to return in 2013 and 2014.

The title of this post is a quote from Ron’s post.  Apparently the god who lives between Ron’s ears and inspired his book does not inspire correct grammar.

Shifting topics, an interesting post on the Banned by HWA blog lists the Treasures of Herbert Armstrong which were sold after his death.  I have long held that Ron’s spiritual idol Herbert Armstrong evaded more income taxes than Ron did, he was blessed to have clever legal advice to keep him out of prison.

I also believe that Herbert Armstrong was worse that Weinland in another area.  A number of sources available with a search on the Internet describe how Herbert raped his young daughter.  While proof of his criminal guilt to a legal standard does not exist, that does not mean that he is innocent.  I personally am convinced of his guilt because he did not address accusations in a newspaper, but if on a criminal jury would have to vote against conviction without better evidence.  In any case, Weinland has never even been accused of something like this.  While evidence at his trial showed that he skimmed thousands of dollars of church funds, I do not believe he would do something like that.

302 Comments

  • Barry says:

    The duel test is for his followers to determine which truth is the present truth. Is it (A.) the past present truth that was the present truth or is it (B.)the current present truth that will become the next past present truth or (c.) the future PRESENT truth that will replace the current present truth to become a past truth.

    My bad, this is a triple test. What utter nonsense for anyone to conclude this is of God. Ron Weinland is corrupted and may be beyond redemption. God is neither indecisive, ambiguous or temperamental! Get out while you can.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    This vacillating false prophet is something to watch.

    But to this vacillating false prophet this is all about making an income. It amazes me to observe the deceived membership in continually believing this liar. One day, the game will be up and this vacillating false prophet will find himself flat out broke and on the streets!!!

    lies lies and more lies!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    The Churches of God are getting ready for Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread.

    Hey! Loser weinland didn’t you say they were “unworthy” to take the passover because you and your group were the “only ones” that are sanctified to do so!?

    Hummmmm, here are some facts about you:

    1) willfully lied to the IRS about paying taxes on taxable income.

    2) convicted on five (5) counts of tax evasion.

    3) served three years in prison for tax evasion.

    4) now have a felony record.

    5) “provable” failures of predictions of Christ’s return to earth.

    6) failure of empowerment from God on 11/8/15 as one of the two witnesses.

    7) continually changing your “personal” doctrines to justify your failures.

    8) continually lying to your group about your merchandising of God’s Word.

    9) your prediction of Christ’s return of 2019 is already failing.

    10) placing yourself above Christ’s authority by rewriting the book of revelation when Jesus Christ specifically tells not to do!

    And the list goes on and on!! You are one big pathetic fraud loser weinland!!!

    And you have the audacity to criticism the other Churches of God!!!

  • Ronco says:

    For Fraud’s sake PKG, Please Keep Giving!!!

  • Ronco says:

    Hi Ron!!!

  • Randy says:

    Hey Ron, while everyone is down in Cincinnati this weekend kissing your ass don’t let your head get big your still
    A lier
    A false prophet
    A FELONE
    A thief
    A punk
    And you will burn in hell with the rest of the false prophets that used God to make money !

  • Plimsol says:

    A little bit of the Fifth Thunder!:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36108133

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    And by a report on another blog, Rod Meredith is in his final decline. No such good news for Ron about David Pack or Gerald Flurry.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Meredith is elderly and in poor health. His death will be from natural causes and LCG will elect a new leader and life will go on as usual.

    Pack and Flurry are doing fine health wise. Sorry loser weinland this does not quality as one of your false thunders! Oh, what about your heart condition loser weinland? You are not in the best of shape either!!

    No 63,000 in LCG either loser weinland!! Plus, why would they have anything to do with you loser weinland!!!! You are a provable lying merchandiser of religion for the purpose of your own gain!!!!

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    Sad to see pkg is willing to waste more precious years, on people who don’t even deserve another moment in life .Pray for them ,I know Ron isn’t.

  • Randy says:

    Ron is praying for more money , more money !!!!

  • Ronco says:

    Ron is preying on his followers for more money…

  • During these Days of Unleavened Bread, Weinland should be putting sin out of his life.

    The love of money is a root of all evil.

    Therefore, Weinland should be getting rid of all his money.

    He could always give it to the poor.

    Members of the PKG that got that way by giving their money to him.

    Anyone perceive that Weinland has leavening in his life? (Maybe it’s just a yeast infection, but still….)

  • Randy says:

    I bet they (Ron and Laura) payed someone to clean unleaven out of there house they are to lazy and are Gods gift of people ( not ) !

  • Acts says:

    Herbert W Armstrong was a False Prophet and every “teacher” that came from him has become a false Prophet .
    A rotten tree cannot produce good fruit.

    Ronald Weinland was taught a massive Lie , this lie is summed up in his much hyped conclusion of chapter 6 .
    Ron Says:” At the very beginning of Genesis, God gives us a picture of a planet that had been created much earlier, but that was in total disarray and in a complete state of great destruction. There was no life on it whatsoever, and the rays of the sun could not even reach its surface. ”
    I warn every person who belives this and thinks they stand , better take heed ! HWA was deceived .He was a false teacher , just because he taught the Sabbath and the Holy days does not mean he was not deceived .
    God most certainly does NOT give a picture in genesis of a planet created much earlier . This is a strong delusion in Ron’s mind that the apostle Paul warned would come on those in the end who DO NOT LOVE THE TRUTH .
    Ron says : ” The rays of the SUN could not even reach its surface .” is this what God says in Genesis ? really? Are you kidding me ? OR is this just Ron conforming God’s word to this world ? Ron is conformed to this world , head and hand ! This is not what is said at all not even close! In FACT genesis says and very clearly , so clearly a child could understand it , that God created the Sun , Moon , and Stars on the Fourth day. Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day. All that is in the heavens , sun moon stars , all that is in the earth . In 6 days !
    3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they draw to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto myths.

    Ronald has Failed the test. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NzSO2IOjmu0

  • Enough is Enough says:

    What has happened to loser weinland? Where is he!?

    Well, I guess he is now sooooo insignificant that as far as the public is concerned loser weinland is dead. Wasn’t it stated by johnny harrell that once the felon got out of prison that the world would be trembling at his feet?

    Loser weinland is a living joke and has faded so far into being insignificant that he isn’t even noticed anymore. How does it feel to be a known liar and convicted felon loser weinalnd? Some prophet you turn out to be!!

  • Randy says:

    Something up with the asshole and his gossiper bitch !!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Randy,

    I do believe you are right about that.

    Just recently, I have seen some troubled looks on some of the member’s faces. There may be some ranking individuals who are questioning or possibly getting ready to leave pkg. Let’s hope so.

    Or maybe loser weinland has been given some bad news about his failing heart. We will see.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Or, maybe, a secrete cash account has been discovered by the IRS? Wouldn’t that be exciting!!!

  • Randy says:

    Ene

  • Randy says:

    EiE
    Wouldn’t that be nice !!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey Loser Weinland!!!!

    Are you preaching to the global community today!!??

    Didn’t think so, because you are “not” what you claim to be!!

    Where are you loser weinland!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    “Just recently, I have seen some troubled looks on some of the member’s faces. There may be some ranking individuals who are questioning or possibly getting ready to leave pkg. Let’s hope so.”

    EIE, I’m hoping that’s the case too! I hope the reality is setting in that they’ve been duped big time and for waaaay too long! Here we are nigh upon the month of May, and NOTHING major has happened. It may even be talked about quietly among some of them about what happened to November 6th—–what happened to Ron getting out of prison and all of sudden he’s thrust into the limelight because of all of the destruction?

    Well, wake up PKG! You’ve been had, and will continue to be had as long as you keep giving money! Certain individuals behinds get to get big and fat off your money, while yours goes on the shrivel!

    Get with it and get out!

  • Randy says:

    I always called Ron and Laura dumb but I guess they are smarter than people sending them money ! Just saying , every crook would love people to send them money !

  • Randy says:

    They will rot in hell !

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fooled No More:

    I find it interesting that Johnny Harrell is being very quiet these days.

    Hopefully he has removed all of the blinders and is seeing things for what they are!!

    Get Out of There Johnny!!!! And get your real life back!!!!

    DUMP THE LOSER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Randy says:

    Run Johnny Run !!!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland!!!

    Just viewed some website traffic estimates and this what I found:

    1) cog-pkg.org: “down” by 8% over the last three months

    2) your blog: “down” by 5% over the last three months

    What!!?? is going on here loser weinalnd!!??

    Where are you loser wienland!!??

    You are in decline – aren’t you supposed to be known throughout the global community by now and instilling fear into them!!??

    What went wrong loser weinland!!???

  • Randy says:

    EIE !

  • Randy says:

    Ron must have put a curse on my I-Pad

  • Plimsol says:

    Those who (like Ron) are interested in numerology and the Book of Revelation – consider this.

    The God that Ron worships is a liar. He has repeatedly told Ron things that proved not to be true.

    The God that Ron worships is the author of confusion. He has told his followers (Deut 18:22) not to listen to prophets if their prophecies do not come to pass – but he has sent as his last, greatest and most powerful prophet one whose prophecies have failed again and again and again.

    The God that Ron worships is a slaughterer of the innocent. You and I cannot choose to follow Ron’s God – it is not a matter of choice, one has to be called. But we and billions of others are to be killed in this great tribulation, because we have not been called, and because we believe Ron to be a false prophet. Even though both God and Ron himself have expressly told us that he IS a false prophet.

    So, is there any clue as to whether this God that Ron worships really is God, or perhaps something else?

    Well, go to Ron’s website, and just look at his latest post. Chapter SIX part SIX of SIX.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    That was brilliant Plimsol!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland!

    Do you know what May 8th is? It is seven months from Nov 8, 2015 when you claimed that you and your side kick would be empowered as the two witnesses of Rev 11.

    Let’s see, seven is the number of completion and it is now seven months past and you are still nothing but an ordinary everyday felon.

    Hummmm, something is wrong here loser weinland! You must have miscalculated or you simply lied again. How many times have you lied about your empowerment and the return of Jesus Christ? Let’s see, is it twice, three, or it now four times!?

    Well loser weinland August 17th will be six months since your release from prison for stealing tax money from the IRS and the global community will have to wait to see if your delusional vision will come true on August 17. Oh Well……

    tick tock tick tock to August 17th

  • Eric says:

    He can’t have done this by accident. He must have realised what he was saying. Numbers play such an important part of his ideas.

    Chapter 6, Part 6 (of 6)

    666

    Its like digging a pit and walking into it in the middle of the night. Well done Ron! Keep it up.

    “So I am going to attempt to summarize God’s purpose and will toward mankind as concisely as possible. Yet there is so much that still needs to be told.”

    Do I hear yet again another delay and book in the offering!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    This current book is a failure period!!!

    You bet ya!! A new lie is in the works!! Loser weinland knows he screwed up again!!

    But this time it may cost him in a very big way.

  • Ronco says:

    Hey Ron, are you going on spring break this Sabbath after all the holy days?

    Planning a pig roast in the back yard?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    The loser has chap 7 pt 1 up on his loser blog ~ same old crap

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland!

    Did you speak to your mom and sister yesterday? OOPS! I just remembered that you disfellowshipped them and you can’t have anything to do with them – right!?

    Too bad for you – huh! They figured out you were a liar and a thief and it was they that dumped you!!

    You are one sick delusional waste of human flesh……

  • Randy says:

    🙂

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland!!

    Did some research on your facebook page and website traffic on your blog and website, it looks pretty bad loser weinland!! What is going on here!?

    Didn’t you and Johnny say that you would be on the global scene and administrating world event? What happened here loser weinland?

    It is always the same old story with you loser weinalnd, one lie after another. It is going to catch up to you or maybe it already has. The facebook failure about your current writings that are being posted there only shows a hugh lack of interest!! If you can’t make on social media then how can you expect to do it through the internet!? The publicist will be a waste of time and the tither’s money you greedily steal from them.

    Here is what going on loser weinland. Everyone knows that you are a convicted tax felon and served prison time for this crime, not to mention, all of the failed predictions of Christ’s return and your empowerment from on high to become one of the prophesied two witnesses and the joke of your wife being the other!!

    I will be honest here, I take great pleasure in your current failures because it is all based in greed and lies!! Time to pay your corrupt dues loser weinalnd!!

    Where are you!!! Loser weinalnd!!!

  • Randy says:

    Yes greed and lies is what Ron and Laura are made of no truth in nothing they said !! And the weak minded people still believe them , if God was to choose a Prophet it sure would not be a sissy like Weindland !!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland!!

    Are you going to play church today!? I guess that is all you have left to do.

    What a failure you are loser weinalnd and you did it all in the name of greed and egotism!! You have your reward and it is now going away – too bad for you –

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Scary isn’t it loser weinland that Deut 18:22 speaks so loudly against you!!!! The global community has been waiting since 11/8/15 for your empowerment and “guess what”!? Nothing has happened at all!!!

    Your website traffic is down and your facebook page is a joke and there is none that are flocking to your business adventure known as cog-pkg – life must be tough for you loser weinalnd. Well, what did you expect? All of your efforts are based on lies and deceptions and your felon status speaks for itself.

    No sympathy here loser weinland – we all know what you really are – one big phony –

  • Randy says:

    No sympathy here either asshole !

  • Eric says:

    In the sermons section of this site the first item “Inspired Interpretation” way back in June 29, 2002 where he declared himself to be a prophet he said:

    “It needs to be received in the context of being from God or being from someones wild imagination. Its one or the other, you will have to be the Judge”

    14 years later and multiple failed prophecies I think the answer has been demonstrated time after time after time after time.

    In your own words: From your wild imagination!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Eric,

    Do you think someone should send the memo to loser weinland? “from your wild imagination”

    That was a terrific point you were making.

    Oh my oh my, how loser weinland’s history is stacking up against him!!!! It proves that loser weinalnd is a lying phony time after time!!!

  • Once an Elder says:

    “Wild Imagination”

    In the sermons section of this site the first item “Inspired Interpretation” way back in June 29, 2002 where he declared himself to be a prophet he said: Eric
    “It needs to be received in the context of being from God or being from someone’s wild imagination. It’s one or the other; you will have to be the Judge”. Quote by False Prophet Weinland 6-29-2002.

    Let’s define what a wild imagination is: 1) Wild: reckless, missing the target. 2) Imagination: the act or power of forming mental images of what is not present, conceived in the mind.

    14 years later and multiple failed prophecies I think the answer has been demonstrated time after time after time after time. In your own words: From your wild imagination! Eric

    Having been exposed to and under the corrupt influence of weinland from the years 2007 to early 2013, I have to agree fully with the above quote as pointing to and confirming the reality that weinlnad does indeed suffer from a “wild imagination” and stills does.

    I remember all the hype that was generated by this vain individual about storing up water and food and cash because the “event to end all events” was about to take place. The only event that took place was weinland’s “wild imagination”. I also clearly remember the financial difficulties these “wild imaginations” did to the vulnerable followers of weinland. I heard with my own ears that it was okay to max out credit cards and cancel insurance policies because Christ would return and you would not be liable for these debts. I witnessed many do just that and they paid dearly for what they had done; all because of weinland’s “wild imaginations”.

    I remember when weinland stated that Obama would not be president because the United States would be ruins and what happened? Obama has completed eight years in office. And then weinland was sentence to prison for tax fraud for 3.5 years and his “wild imagination” stated that it was a conspiracy but not to worry because he would not serve his time because Christ was returning and he would be let out of prison. Weinland served his full term of three years in prison and was supposed to be empowered by Christ on 11-8-15. It turned out to be nothing more than a “wild imagination” on weinland’s part.

    Now we come to the present time and weinland’s “wild imagination” is running full bore with all sort of distortions and is in the process of writing another book which is definitely another book of “wild imaginations”.

    2012 and 2013 came and went and now the stage is set for June 9, 2019. This is nothing more than another “wild imagination” of False Prophet Weinland.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “wild imagination”

    Maybe it is true that loser weinland is lost in his own delusional mind and can’t find his way out of it!

    Where Are You loser weinland!!?? Too many trips with “L”ucy in the “S”ky with “D”iamonds”?

  • Fooled No More says:

    Once an Elder, I have to fully agree with what you said about Ron’s “wild imaginations”. I have proof of that wild imagination as I still have canned goods in my basement from 2012, that I haven’t used up yet, and may as well throw out as the food may not be anymore good.

    I also know of folks who spent themselves into near bankruptcy by buying TONS of “survival stuff” only for it to be sitting there now collecting dust because well, God changed his mind and didn’t want Christ to return on that date after all.

    Lest everyone not forget……………..today is the third anniversary for yet another Christ non return as we were told it was to happen today back then. How long are folks going to sit there and fall for this Charlatan and his wife and keep losing money to boot?? 2019? 2025? 2033??

    So sad…………………

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Loser weinland is one hell of a salesman – isn’t he!!!!

  • matt says:

    I haven’t checked on our favorite doom-prophet for a while. Amazing – literally nothing seems to even slow him down! After all his predictions have failed over and over, and after he has been caught with his nose so deep in the church trough that the tax-bill alone is close to half a million, he brazenly moves the timelines out further and keeps going. And people believe him, and keep giving him money.

    Amazing.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    and this loser weinland is laughing all the way to the bank. one hell of a salesman!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hummmmm, I just remember that loser weinland did a “death curse” thing on all his critics and detractors. Well, nothing happened with that either!!

    The evidence in these last few postS obviously proves without a doubt that!!

    In the sermons section of this site the first item “Inspired Interpretation” way back in June 29, 2002 where he declared himself to be a prophet he said: Eric

    “It needs to be received in the context of being from God or being from someone’s wild imagination. It’s one or the other; you will have to be the Judge”. Quote by False Prophet Weinland 6-29-2002.

    Loser weinland definitely has done all of this out of a “WILD IMAGINATION”!!!!!!!!!!!

    WHAT OTHER PROOF DO YOU NEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PKG’ERS!!!!!!!

  • Ronco says:

    Oh no, the PKG website is broken on the Sabbath!!! A famine of the word you might say…

    Maybe the end is truly near.

  • Ronco says:

    PKG is back up- it’s a miracle!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hummmmm, does loser weinland need new server equipment? Oh my, but that would cost money to do! Cough it up tithers!!!!!

  • Randy says:

    The asshole post some of his book on Facebook for some reason he didn’t like my comments they where deleted , I don’t know why I just called him an
    Asshole
    Crook
    FELONE
    False prophet
    Ha I just posted the real truth !

  • Acts says:

    False prophet Ronald Weinland has finished his new Book of Fal$e prophecy just in time for the fourth anniversary of the “great disappointment” . After May 27 Ron said Christ would return a year later in may 2013 But the answer from God was No! Proving again that Ron is a quite Insane false prophet . (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)
    “May 27 2012”
    4/29/12
    “As readers of this site know, May 27, 2012, is the time that I have stated as being the date Jesus Christ will return as King of kings over all government on this earth. As my previous post was written over two months ago, this may well prove to be my final one, since there are only four weeks remaining in this age. May 27th is fast approaching and God will perform what He has spoken through His prophets.” False prophet Ronald Weinland
    May 26 2016
    Although the previous book, 2008—God’s Final Witness, was also sent out to most of the nations of the world, and in several languages to those people and their leaders, God’s purpose for this book is that a stronger message be sent out again, one last time.” False Prophet Ronald Weinland
    Oxymoron or just moRon ? The final witness of Ron is that he will do anything to save his own ass ! Ron , you have made a mockery of the truth . The LORD will not hold him guiltless that takes his name in vain.
    For those interested in the truth about how to Count Pentecost take a look at , Antiquities of the Jews – Book III Chapter 10
    “But on the second day of unleavened bread,(day after the Holy day) which is the sixteenth day of the month, they first partake of the fruits of the earth, for before that day they do not touch them. And while they suppose it proper to honor God, from whom they obtain this plentiful provision, in the first place, they offer the first-fruits of their barley, and that in the manner following: They take a handful of the ears, and dry them, then beat them small, and purge the barley from the bran; they then bring one tenth deal to the altar, to God; and, casting one handful of it upon the fire, they leave the rest for the use of the priest. And after this it is that they may publicly or privately reap their harvest. They also at this participation of the first-fruits of the earth, sacrifice a lamb, as a burnt-offering to God. When a week of weeks has passed over after this sacrifice, (which weeks contain forty and nine days,) on the fiftieth day, which is Pentecost ” Josephus

    For to every one that has shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that has not shall be taken away even that which he has. And cast you the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

  • hawkeye says:

    weinland has told so many lies for so long that he does not know what the truth is anymore …

  • Randy says:

    Weindland the ( Asshole just wants the money ) the PKG don’t want to look like the have been fooled ( witch they are ) Ron has duped them too bad stand up and be a man Ron ain’t been

  • martin says:

    I don’t want annoy anybody when I bring this up, I understand these bible passages will not dissuade PKGers from believing that Ron and his wife are the Two Witnesses, but I do wonder why not?

    The bible speaks clearly and plainly about many things, why don’t PKGers understand that just because Ron says something, doesn’t make it so.

    For example the OT talks about the the price they set on “ME” (30 shekels of silver), Christ is clearing speaking and talking about HIMSELF IN THE OT….there are plenty of other such verses. That is Christ was Eternal and pre-existed His human incarnation. Just because Ron says Christ didn’t doesn’t mean a hill a beans.

    The NT affirms this by discussing how the Lord(greek Christos that is CHRIST) were tempted by the Israelites in Moses’ day. Again confirming Christ’s pre-existance.

    These verses are SO PLAIN. No need to twist anything. There are absolutely clear and plain.

    The point is, we shouldn’t accept what Ron says just because he says it….

    I think if Ron said the sky was pink and polka dotted that PKGers would see the sky that way.

    So sad. So easily deceived. So easily manipulated.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Martin, I can attribute that much of what the PKG mindset is based on is winning some sort of spiritual “lottery”. In that OK………we keep paying our tithes and doing this because God says “it’s the right thing to do”.

    We keep hoping that in doing so, Ron will be right and we’ll be right in doing “what we were supposed to do”. Problem is, just like the real lottery one can spend a lifetime spending hard earned cash on lottery tickets, and never see a huge return.

    Same thing with those in PKG———some have been a part of Armstrongism all of their lives, and keep playing that spiritual lottery. Someday hoping that they’ll “cash in” and become one of these “beings” that Ron keeps squawking about. Others who don’t necessarily have that hope of becoming one of these beings, keep hoping that all of this destruction will befall the world, and that they’ll “cash in” by one——being proven right vicariously through Ron, and two—–being saved from all of their problems and worries from this world.

    Never mind the fact that many of their difficulties would go away if they would get away from PKG.

    Am I making sense on this early Sunday morning? 🙂

  • Ronco says:

    Hi Ron!

  • Ronco says:

    Tomorrow is Pentecost- only 3 years to go!!!

  • Randy says:

    The asshole won’t last 3 years !
    Asshole you egotistical mother F#<K you are not going to breath fire or bring down rain or die in streets . You are a phony asshole tell you sheep and let them go you did enough damage asshole and you gossipy bitch !!!

  • Randy says:

    If you say God is talking to you that’s cause your mentally ill , that’s Satan !!!!!

  • hawkeye says:

    So, 2019? I’m going to say it a lot between now and Pentecost 2019. And I do hope and pray that the
    world is made ready by that time and that God finishes what needs to be finished and accomplished
    at that moment in time. But if it doesn’t, there’ll be something even more exciting, more awesome as
    far as time goes on….
    from weinlands lastest post …looks like pkg is being set up for yet another dismal failure.at least he is consistant

  • Randy says:

    Awesome what an asshole Ron is !!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    lies lies and more lies!!!!!

    “but if it doesn’t” we have heard that before!! what a jerk loser weinland is!!!!

    Well well well – what are you going to say now pkg membership – you look like fools everyday that goes by, how long are you going to believe this loser?!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Let’s be honest here, this loser weinland knows he has already failed!! It failed on Nov 8th of last year when he and his side kick were denied the empowerment from on high!!!

    Having trouble there loser weinland – your end is approaching!!!!

  • martin says:

    I do not see this from any latest post of Ron’s.

    Is this from a sermon he gave?

  • Randy says:

    All the PKG people are sick and Ron can not heel them come on he is sick to and God has nothing to do with him !

  • hawkeye says:

    martin ..it was from his post of may 26 2016 chapter 7 part 4 ( of 4 ) it is the most recent post on his website

  • Tom says:

    I don’t see this quote in that post. Where did you see it?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey Johnny! I notice the title to your sermon was “the countdown”. I have to ask this, “countdown to what”? didn’t you do that in 2011, 2012, 2013? So why is 2019 any different?

    Don’t you get it?! 2019 has already failed. It failed in November of 2015 when loser weinland and the silent one were denied being empowered!! And this comes from the mouth of your false idol loser weinland:

    “… So, 2019?…” I’m going to say it a lot between now and Pentecost 2019. And I do hope and pray that the
    world is made ready by that time and that God finishes what needs to be finished and accomplished
    at that moment in time. “… But if it doesn’t…” , there’ll be something even more exciting, more awesome as
    far as time goes on….

    Your false teacher is already backing out of his failed prediction!! Really Johnny!!!!!!!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I couldn’t find it in his last post either. ISTR him saying something like that, but not where.

  • Plimsol says:

    It’s in his sermon of 4 June, “HWA Part 2”. Page 3 near the bottom.

  • Tom says:

    Thanks Plimsol and Hawkeye! That is astonishing, it truly is.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Thanks Plimsol

  • Plimsol says:

    By the way, it’s worth looking at Ron’s May 7 sermon, “The Virtue of Truth Part 6”, if you want a good laugh.

    I predicted in an earlier comment that Ron would have to change Truth 45 and Truth 50 before he got to them in his sermon series, because they flatly contradict his current teachings. Of course, I was wrong. Ron’s solution was much simpler, he just didn’t read the relevant bits.

    I also predicted that Truth 49 would be a bit embarrassing for him, as it is that “The Seven Thunders will happen precisely as foretold”, which they didn’t. Indeed they haven’t thundered even now, well into the Great Tribulation. Ron’s solution to that was to say how awesome it was, that there was a lot of stuff going on, but that he hoped people understood that we are in a “lull” at the moment! Surely that means the Truth is not, er, actually true then? The “lull” is apparently God’s way of luring the world into a sense of lethargy and false security (why would He want to do that?), and so that Ron can finish his book.

    Most amusing.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    This is really good stuff. Loser weinland’s own words are his end!!

    Lies Lies and more Lies!!

    Hey loser weinland!! Where are you?!!!

  • Plimsol says:

    Also by the way:

    In the same May 7 sermon, Ron says “… I don’t give a flip about whether 2019 happens or not”.

    Strange thing for the leader of a church entirely based on preparing for Christ’s return to say.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Oh, by the way, if go and view loser weinland’s facebook pages you will see that the response is stagnant and hasn’t gone anywhere. Great job loser weinland!! And the overall web traffic is so low that there is not enough data to record – great job there loser weinland!!

    Do yourself a favor and delete your facebook pages!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    It must be disconcerting to see your false empire coming to its end!! To bad for you loser weinland!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Didn’t loser weinland state that his failure of a book would be published by now? Well, where is it? Also, didn’t loser weinland say that he would hire a publicist to promote his foolish writings? Well, where is the publicist?

    Hey loser weinland!! What is going on here?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… I don’t give a flip about whether 2019 happens or not”…” quote by loser weinland

    Question: Is loser weinland getting angry with God?

    Well, loser weinland how many times will it take for you to figure out that God doesn’t know you?

  • Fooled No More says:

    … I don’t give a flip about whether 2019 happens or not”…” quote by loser weinland

    No, he wouldn’t care about whether it happens or not EIE, because he knows that there will always be some simple suckers that will stay no matter what. He gets to keep collectiing their money, and they get to keep wishing and hoping.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Just to add, I’ve wondered what became of this “book” also. Did those plans up and change? Maybe he knows it’s already a flop and nixed the whole thing! He’s changed his mind about a whole slew of things in the past——why not this?

    Or…………..maybe God “told” him not to publish it after all! Who knows??

  • Excogger says:

    The New Book will be published at the sound of the 9th Thunder, 1260 days after Pentecost, 2019.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    It might be getting difficult for this loser weinland to manage all of the lies he has out there. He is at least 67 yrs old and with a bad heart his memory is not working to well. Add stress to maintaining the pace of keeping a false church alive must be physically demanding.

    Is it getting tough to have to now work hard to maintain lies and income for your survival loser weinland? Too bad!! No apparent heir to keep it going. Who will step up and claim that they are your heir apparent. Jeremy!? Auda!? Which one will take your mantle? Your false church, loser weinland, will die with you.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey! Loser weinland! Where are you!!!

    Prove who you claim to be!! (If you can)

    lies lies and more lies

  • hawkeye says:

    guess i should check in more often …plimsol is right …it it was the HWA sermon part 2 …dont know why i posted wrong info ..anyway it was totally my fault and i do accept responsibility for it …my mistake and i do apologize to all for the error

  • Ronco says:

    “… I don’t give a flip about whether 2019 happens or not”…” quote by loser weinland

    “Out of zeal and enthusiasm for the vindication of Jehovah’s name, Word and purposes, and the desire for the new system, some of his servants have at times been premature in their expectations.”

    Watchtower 1979 Jul 1 p.29 How Jehovah Guides His People

    There you have it from the REAL professionals of epic prophetical failure, the Jehovah’s Witlessess…

  • Fooled No More says:

    Out of zeal and enthusiasm for the vindication of Jehovah’s name, Word and purposes, and the desire for the new system, some of his servants have at times been premature in their expectations.”

    Watchtower 1979 Jul 1 p.29 How Jehovah Guides His People

    There you have it from the REAL professionals of epic prophetical failure, the Jehovah’s Witlessess….

    You got that right! I was with the Witnesses back in 1979, and it was beat into our heads that “Christ was soon coming” and the 1980’s would definitely be the start of the Millennium.

    Hmmm……….I should have learned then as the 1980’s came and went a loooong time ago! At least they didn’t attach exact dates to anything, and I don’t remember people I knew from then stockpiling tons of food and water and “survival” stuff.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Lies Lies and more Lies coming from the mouth of loser weinland – it never ends –

  • Ronco says:

    Hey Ron, don’t feel so bad, the JW’s produced many a failed prophecy too and yet they are swimming in money.

    Soooooooooo…..

    Pick yourself up
    Dust yourself off
    Lie all over again!

  • Ronco says:

    Oops! I missed a line.

    Pick yourself up,
    Take a deep breath,
    Dust yourself off.
    Lie all over again!

  • Randy says:

    Ron the asshole has not a clue , just about money , $1700 suits , Coundos ,Dimound rings , BMW’s ,no man will know , not no asshole for sure his bitch just talks about all you PKG what a bitch ! No church needs a minster looking for money , Christ walked around in sandals , did I every say how much I hate Ron and Laura they still from everyone, if you don’t agree read the the court docks but you PKG don’t want to here the truth!!!

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    I’ve been studying about Edward Gein. He was a man that lived not far from my home in 1957. A famous killer. Anyway I had several home care clients that knew him personally, and got me interested in him. They would tell me how he was every ones helper, if needed, a gentle person, etc… I’ve been reading the court transcripts right now. It’s amazing how it reminded me of Ron. When asked a question, only answered vaguely. If taking about himself, would brag about his abilities. Now yes one was a killer of bodies, but Ron is a killer of minds. And talk about a high opinion of self. Put them both in the same room, would be a contest on how could brag the most. It’s scary to think Ed killed so many people and what he did with the bodies, just like Ron has killed so many minds from thinking for themselves.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Glad I’m Free:

    That is exactly what cults are all about!

    The wolf in sheep clothing and masquerading as a minister of light, when, in reality it is not.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey! Loser weinland!

    Where is the book?!

    Did you lie again? Putting chapters on facebook proved to be a colossal failure!!!

    Hey Johnny! Didn’t you say that when loser weinland completed his book that the world would be trembling at his feet!! Well, what happened?

    This is nothing more than lies lies and more lies!!

  • Randy says:

    What up false prophet ! And gossiping bitch ! Not bragging just comen since we all said none of his bullshit would ever happen LaurA the money whore maybe I can’t spell , but I know a crook when when I see one you are a lieing stealing bitch and Ron is mentally ill ! To bad you reack people’s life’s to make yours better , damn same !

  • Barry says:

    Where is the prophet. Why was there no announcement on Brittan’s exit. How did he miss such a golden opportunity to prophecy of the impending doom to now expedite the rise of the beast power. Could it be he would call it wrong. Could it be his prophetic vision extends no farther than his wallet and how fast his wife can spend it. Get out of PKG.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Yep, the loser really missed an opportunity!!!!

    Where are you!! Loser weinland!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    The Brexit referendum was an historical event that affects the entire global community. And yet, loser weinland didn’t have a clue of what would happen. It only goes to show that loser weinland is a fraud!!!

    Loser wienland’s problem is this: since he has rewritten the Book of Revelation, these current events do not fit into his falsehoods. Hummm tough spot to be in, right, loser weinland!?

    lies lies and more lies

  • hawkeye says:

    oh c’mon ..give weinland a break ..after all he probably has not finished counting all his money yet ..LOL and if you thought that was sarcasm then that was my fault ..it was meant for disdain

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I am with you on that one!!!! “disdain”

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Where are you loser weinland!?

    Boy did you miss it!!! So now you have to figure out how to steal this event from Mr. Armstrong, don’t you!! The ones in United that I know are excited and they didn’t even mention your name, I wonder why?

    You have blown your timeline to hell now loser! Do you really think that the cogs even have you on the radar? NO!!

    Loser weinland you are an absolute idiot!! And you missed it big time jerk!!!!

  • Randy says:

    Hahahaha
    Ron the asshole will take credit for what the Armstrong said , Hahahaha Ron is so full of shit !!!

  • Jocko says:

    Now that Brexit is history I’m guessing Ronald is most likely patting himself on the back while telling his membership “I told you so”.

    Didn’t Ronald once say the beast power will rise in Europe and attack the USA, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand. With England being a member of the European Union it would have been hard for them to attack themselves.

    I forget where the Russians and Chinese fit into the equation seeing Ron has changed his story so many times. Please note I used the word “story” and not “prophecy” because by Ronald’s own definition that’s all they are. Stories. Pure Fiction.

    Ron should have taken a clue from the late science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard who created a multi-million dollar empire (disguised as a religion) on writing fiction. Poor Ronald has to fleece old ladies out of their social security checks just to keep his head above water.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Actually loser weinland “can’t” pat himself on his back. Everyone knows that Herbert Armstrong made that statement about Briton not being a member of the EU in these last days.

    Remember that loser weinland is desperate to attract former members of wwcog and to take that credit for himself would be suicide for the loser. The loser is now at a point of financial ruin and to disrupt what he has left would be harmful to his thieving of tithes.

    Loser weinland kept his mouth shut on the brexit issue because he didn’t think that the vote would be to “leave”. Just goes to show you what a liar and clueless jerk that he is!

    Also, didn’t loser weinland proclaim that 63,000 former members of wwcog would come flocking to his doors and that his name would become a household word? Well, it hasn’t happened has it!!

    lies lies and more lies

  • freeatlast says:

    been away a while. saw a video where the word antichrist really means “in place of Christ” not “against Christ”. the word “anti” means “in place of” not “against”. So all popes have been “antichrist” as they are supposedly “in the place of Christ on earth”. if this is true then it gives an interesting new twist to things. what do you think, Ron Weinland? not that I give a !!!

  • Ronco says:

    Hey, Ron!

    Are you going to BBQ some ribs on the golf course today?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey!!

    Loser weinland where is the book!!! Hummmm having a cash flow problem can’t afford the publicist?

  • Randy says:

    What up asshole no predictions you ain’t hit one yet and God says any prophet says something will happen in my name and it doesn’t he is a false prophet !
    And you say what asshole !!!

  • Randy says:

    Somethings up the gossip bitch called and Joyce called !!!!!!!!

  • Ronco says:

    Trouble in Paradise???

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Let’s hope so! It’s about time those two swindling clowns meet their end!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Randy, did your Mom give any hint as to what they were calling about? That’s very interesting that they BOTH would call—-kinda outta the blue on the same day. I happened to have met Joyce a few times at the Feasts……….a VERY nice lady and I’m baffled as to why she sticks with this bunch.

    Pride I guess indeed runs deep, because in talking to her, she’s a VERY smart lady and being on the outside looking in now, you have to wonder does she even have a clue??

    Apparently not.

    EIE, a former PKG’er and I were just talking about this very thing over the weekend. It would surprise no one—-especially those of us that frequent this blog, that there’s some news that something drastic “happened”.

    I’d say that time is due!

  • Randy says:

    Fooled no more
    I can tell when mom has something on her mind ,and she does everyone been calling !!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Keep it coming my man!!!!!!

  • not surprised says:

    Below are some sections from the sermon this past week. It amazes me how after all Ron has stolen from the people he shows no compassion for those who gave all to give him a richer life. Would he feel differently if this was one of his kids are close friends.

    Of individuals who will not save tithes to go to the Feast of Tabernacles! What am I supposed to do when I know that? “Oh, I’m having a hard time financially.” “I’m having ‘this’ difficulty and ‘that’ difficulty.” Well, woe is me, you know. I don’t have any mercy upon that!

    I marvel that we could live at this time and we still have people going by the wayside. One individual that sent in a letter last week, pulled by things in the world, pulled by family, and basically stating, I guess, bad feelings for the fact of how he feels toward not having that fellowship anymore, knowing exactly what it means, that he won’t have that fellowship anymore at the Feast of Tabernacles with God’s people and whatever, but he’s going to do it. And if that means death for eternity, basically, not
    being in the Great White Throne – was that how it was stated, basically summing it up – he’s going to accept it.

    What a horrible time to get so wrapped up in your own personal affairs and your own life, to get so distracted from God that you’re all consumed with your own drama and your drama is so great in your mind that you can’t deal with reality anymore. We have people that can’t deal with reality of this way of life and their calling anymore, to grasp and understand the importance of God’s spirit that’s able to dwell within us, but instead gets consumed about what they don’t have, or what they no longer have, or what they want to have and how things aren’t going so well for them and problems are so great. I’m playing a violin right now, okay? You can’t hear it, but that’s what I was doing. You think, “Boo hoo!” I don’t get it! You want to get wrapped up in your drama? What a horrible thing! You have more pleasure out of your drama than you do living
    this way of life and fighting the fight and you just feel sorry for yourself? Boo hoo! “I’m so sad. Things aren’t going well. I’ve got to do ‘this,’ and I’ve got to do ‘this,’ to feel a little bit better.” And “I’m not being treated right and God’s not giving me mercy! God hasn’t shown me mercy and favor.” That one really blew my mind, but you know, that’s what people who aren’t doing what they need to be doing right now, that’s what they’re saying to God, what this individual that I quoted last week (or two weeks ago) said in a letter. “God isn’t blessing me. God hasn’t shown me mercy.” I would not want to be in those shoes. That’s disgusting! Sick! So do you feel sorry for yourself out there, anybody? You think this is too hard? This isn’t for you, then. Go cry in your corner. I’m sorry. There is no mercy there! God gave you great mercy to call you out of this world and into this Church and this way of life.

  • Once an Elder says:

    I’ll answer this one.

    I know you personally weinland and I will say this of you, “you are one arrogant, self serving, self centered slimy bastard!! You!, who are a self proclaimed prophet who has failed at everything!! You!, who are a convicted felon for stealing money from the US Government!! You!, who has destroyed marriages and cause debilitating financial distress because of your lies!! And you dare to condemn someone who has finally seen you for what you really are – FALSE!!!

    The one who is facing eternal death is “you” and your “wife” for merchandising God’s Word!! You and I understand and God makes it clear is that He hates liars and thieves! It is “you” who is a liar and thief, weinland!! You hypocritical lying bastard!!!

    I will go head to head with you any time and any where weinland!! But that is what you fear the most, isn’t it!! You fear the ones who have figured you out and can prove that you really are a liar and thief!! And I will tell you this, I have successfully turned several away from you by leading them to the documents of your trail and conviction for tax fraud and it didn’t take long for them realize you are only in it for the money!!

    Weinland, you and your wife disgust me and it is people like you who destroy peoples’ faith in God and His Ways! I have never in my life looked forward to someone’s death but you are the first and I will welcome that day!!! Also, I hope the individual who finally came to terms about you and made the right the decision to get away from you comes here. They will find the help they need to purge you and your lies from their life forever!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    This is standard fare for Ron. Using fear maybe not for the one that left, but for those that remain to be so taken by fear, and “the world getting at you”, that they’ll stay and hope to be “further blessed” by God by not “disobeying”.

    Well, I sure hope whoever that was does indeed make their way here, and get their eyes opened wide——-probably the most eye opening things they’ve ever seen in their lives.

    Who knows——-I’m hoping it’s someone that was in my inner circle, but if not, ANYONE that leaves is good news because it’s one less person that’s being controlled by this evil turd.

    I’m actually a bit disgusted the more I read of what was posted. The sheer NERVE of this character to make it seem that it’s everyone else’s problem that they’re struggling particularly financially, while he got to come back to a fabulous house with all the trappings.

    I’d hope that more than a few minds were touched by what was a very insincere attitude to how much a difficult time it is to make ends meet, when you are holding back TWENTY PERCENT OF YOUR INCOME for a total —hole and his lazy, gossipy wife and can’t-hold-down-any-real-jobs kids.

    How totally disgusting!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I wonder if loser weinland is suffering from his reduction in income!? I agree with “once and elder” weinland has some dues to pay and maybe this is the beginning.

    I sure would like to know who got smart and left.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I like the “evil turd” comment – that was good!

  • Fooled No More says:

    EIE, I wanted to use another word but modesty forbade! I try to keep the words I use mostly PG. 😉 Nevertheless, I sure DO hope those were words of desperation that Ron spoke! For a change he and Laura get to see what it’s like to TRULY struggle, and find it very tough to make ends meet—–AND there’s no one there to bail you out.

    As they say……”Paybacks a Bitch!”

  • Enough is Enough says:

    That is the different, we both work for a living. weinland is a welfare type that leeches off of others for money.

    You bet ya’ any loss of tithes would be felt by these two parasites!!! Think of his greed in the post were he is telling this individual to f–k off and the money is his to spend as he sees fit – what a jerk this loser weinland is!!!

    I would love to see the membership withhold money from these thieves!! It would be great entertainment to see the desperation and threats that would come from them!!

    OH BOO HOO to these two jerks!!!! Too bad that their next meal would come from a dumpster!!!!

  • Ronco says:

    Hi Ron, since your cash cow is dwindling and you may soon not be able to afford Starbucks, just wanted you to know that Burger King is offering free coffee with purchase to AARP members…

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    “If a person does not change, God sharpens his sword. By bending his bow, he makes it ready [to shoot].He prepares his deadly weapons and turns them into flaming arrows.See how that person conceives evil, is pregnant with harm, and gives birth to lies.He digs a pit and shovels it out. Then he falls into the hole that he made [for others].His mischief lands back on his own head. His violence comes down on top of him.” Psalm7 12-16 Poor poor Weinland pray for him so insecure and unworthy of anything yet , belittling and mocking innocent people no surprise!!! the only people that benefit from PKG is and forever will be ……anyone still feeling burdened by being a member of this cult? SAY IT WITH ME NOW >>>>Ronald Weinland and family<<< .

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    He does not have God’s agape he is a shell,charade, he cant even raise his own family correctly without your tithe, this is where you seek advice? a lazy man with a spit-shine forehead trying to destroy what little value and dignity you have left pkg ? for anyone with a little curiosity looking at this site get out while you still have a pulse you will definitely be rewarded ,I have tenfold.

  • Once an Elder says:

    Swooncologne26:

    I can attest to your statement about weinland destroying dignity.

    The moment I ejected weinland from my life everything changed to the good!! Getting rid of all the cultist fear mongering was the greatest moment of my life! All this speech about the devil will come and get you for leaving weinland’s cult is nothing but an attempt to keep his hands in your wallet. The real fear is on weinland. He knows when the money stops flowing it is over!! So this cultist has no choice but to use the tactics of fear and damnation to keep the money flowing..

    Enjoy the fear of being discovered for what you really are, weinland!! Nothing more than another money hungry fear monger!! The streets of Cincinnati awaits you!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    Typical Ron, chewing people out for their lack of financial prowess, and cashing their check at the same time. Perhaps if we all hadn’t foolishly tithed all these years we would be farther along. Ron and his entire useless family kept right on cashing their checks the whole time he was in jail, and he can talk about others.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Soooo good to heard from you Ozy.

    Is there any way to find out who told loser weinland to kiss off? It had to be someone who is well known. You know that if the individual was insignificant in the loser’s eyes he would not have said anything. This one must have had a good income for the loser to take his cut and now it is gone gone gone!!

    When Randy was mentioning all the phone chatter to his mother it had to be this.

  • Once an Elder says:

    OH MY, do I hear violins playing for loser weinland reduction in income? OH BOO HOO for loser weinland as those dollars slip through his grubby greedy fingers!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Does this mean that there is not enough money for the publicist?

  • Randy says:

    I would love to see these assholes eating out of a trash can humble did I ever say I hate these assholes !!!

  • Ronco says:

    Hey Ron, they have some pretty nice polyester suits over at Goodwill for cheap since you won’t be able to afford the $1700 stuff anymore…

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    No that would be for the members to purchase for the Feast, then send the money they saved to Ron.

  • hawkeye says:

    seems there is a disturbance in the force….
    lets see…numerous predictions ..none (NONE ) as in ZERO have come true
    probably too many total resolve cruises..that has to be it
    maybe wienlands god has told him its time to retire..not to write anymore books since these are doing so well
    does the term FALSE PROPHET mean anything to you weinland ?
    ,,guess not
    ok how about swindler…liar ..cheat..blashphemer..antichrist ( which you are )..and the list goes on and on
    but dont worry weinland ..you have a huge fan base here..drop in anytime

  • hawkeye says:

    just one last question …since weinland is so big on tithing .. does he tithe ?..and who to ?…ok so thats two questions but i was useing pkg math

  • Randy says:

    Great question Hawkeye I never thought of that but maybe the buck stops here ! And spent here !

  • Randy says:

    Ronco
    Maybe cloth sacks , lol

  • Randy says:

    I wonder if the great prophet , end time witness, can tell us who going to be are next president, it’s a 50/50 chance, he said no more Pope how many have we had since he said that and God is talking to him ,lol come on get real asshole the money is going to stop ,your a f:!$k crook !!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Loser weinland only tithe to himself!! If he does, then, he is only leaving ten percent of his ill begotten stealing to pay for church related business and taking the rest for himself!!! This is how he will justify himself.

    The game is up loser weinland!! It won’t be long and the cash flow will become a dribble and not enough to support your thieving ways. Oh Boo Hoo for the loser weinland!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    The reality is: it is all income to this thief!!!! Looking forward to your deserved downfall loser weinland!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey! Loser weinland, where are you!!??

    Major terrorist attack in France; military coup in Turkey!!! These are major events that you should be calling loser weinland. You, yourself, stated that it would be you who would be administrating these end time events ~ well where are you loser weinland!!!!!!

    By the way, weren’t you supposed to be calling the shots over all the cogs’ ~ well, where are you loser weinland!!??

    Nothing but the same old lies lies and more lies!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Yup! Still no 63,000 folks beating a path to Ron’s door! BTW, wasn’t the stock market supposed to be in total free-fall by now?? Of course, that may happen, but it won’t have anything to do with Ron or him “calling the shots”. As of now, the market has hit record highs, but we know that a lot of that is manipulated. Still, all of the world markets were to be having this HUGE crash by now, with the United States dollar no longer being relevant.

    That’s interesting in of itself coming from someone that’s trying to fatten up his coffers as much as possible, with no doubt a lot of that money going overseas to Lord knows where.

    I wonder how many in PKG are quietly asking themselves this question about the “63,000” and why they haven’t turned up yet?? Also here we are in mid July, and still no “major” catastrophic events to make people sit up and take notice. November is a quite a few months ago now no?

    Oh sure, we’ve had terror attacks and shootings, but nothing on this big, grand scale that Ron has been bleating about for too long now.

    PKG’ers, how long will you allow yourselves to be played for nothing more than willing cash cows??

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Loser weinland is totally irrelevant!! Just nothing but a loud mouth liar!!!!

    No book, no empowerment, no 63,000, no calling the shots over the world or cogs, NOTHING!!!!

    Where are you loser weinland!!??

  • Ozymandias says:

    Where is he? Same place he always is, checking to see who is tithing properly, and bitching people out in his sermons. Good old Ron, he is unchangable. 3.5 years in the slammer and didn’t learn a thing.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Ozy,

    How True How True

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland ~ you and your wife claim to be witnesses ~ right? Well the both of you have already been proven to be liars and the both of you still continue to lie. So this is what awaits the both of you liars:

    Proverbs 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished. He who pours out lies shall not go free.

    Proverbs 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished. He who utters lies shall perish.

    Get Ready!! It is time to pay your dues!!! The streets and dumpsters are waiting for the both of you liars!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    Ron only thinks CERTAIN scriptures pertain to him. Won’t he be surprised.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Well, here is something else for you loser weinland. Let’s begin with this, how many times have your predictions failed ~ 2008, 2011, 2012, 2013 and now 2019. But what Does God have to say about this?

    Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet “… speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken …” but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    If this is the case loser weinland, then, one of you is a liar!! But this is what is written of God:

    Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was “… impossible for God to lie …” we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

    OH MY! This is not good news for you loser weinland because this is what God has to say about a liar:

    Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth “… the LORD hate …” yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

    Proverbs 6:17 A proud look, “… a lying tongue …” and hands that shed innocent blood,

    Psalm 119:163 “… I hate and abhor lying …”

    What happened to your prediction that you and your foolish wife would be empowered on Nov 2015 and the world would be cowering at your feet!? What happened to your failed book that you posted on facebook that proved to be an absolute joke!? I will tell you why, you are a liar loser weinland!! The only ones that even give you the time of day are the ones that soon will realize that you really are a liar and deceiver and they also will leave you and your mouthy wife all alone!! OH BOO HOO for the both of you liars!!

    You and your inept wife are liars!! Your “… day of judgement …” is getting nearer by each passing day by loser weinland!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    The judgement that Ron has passed on so many people, may actually be passed on his own family. He accuses people of robbing God, but God says if you do these things to the least of my brothers , you do it to me. Many have gone without so he and his family can enjoy the finer things in life. Yes, we were all stupid to send him our money, but Ron and Co. may end up with the millstone, he would love to see around so many necks. I can’t imagine that so many people still fall for his nonsense. I guess he will have to be wrong a few more times before they see the light. If ever. They are waiting for the big payoff, so they just keep gambling on him. They fail to realize that the true payoff can only come from God. God has shown over and over that he is NOT in anything Ron does.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Ozy,

    I firmly believe loser weinland has some big time dues to pay and it is not to far away. It is just a matter of time.

    I never gave the loser any money but I know some who have and are no longer members of pkg. They are resentful towards the entire family for all of the lies and deceit that they were exposed to. However, there is also a gain that they see now and that gain is how to recognize a liar that claims to be something they are not. You can’t ask for anything better than that. These are now people who will stand against the loser and his family from this day forward.

    Loser weinland will not go unpunished and when it is to pay it will be a heavy price. Loser weinland is the lowest of all scum to walk the face of this earth because of his merchandising of God’s Word for his own personal gain. Loser weinland is soulless and evil and to think it was all done for money ~ how sick this is!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey johnny,

    Still believe in your false prophet!? He is not doing a good job of predicting the events that are happening is he? But I guess you are getting ready for drool and slobber in Georgia at the end of the month when the world’s greatest liar comes to town ~ whoopie!!

  • Randy says:

    Laura and Audria
    The great prophets of God ( on Ron’s payroll ) are making such great prophetise! Not just in it for the money !

  • Ozymandias says:

    Oh no Randy, never for the money. What on earth has either of them ever prophesied? Oh yes , they’re silent. What a bunch of nonsense . Being a prophet in Rons church , must have come with a pay raise. One for Jeremy too. In the real world we call it cronyism .

  • Byker Bob says:

    What I want to know is, where is this “God’s Church” that he keeps speaking about???

    BB

  • Enough is Enough says:

    BB,

    It sure isn’t loser weinland’s group!!!!! The loser has yet to prove himself ~ it will never happen!!!

    liar liar pants on fire!!!!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    It’s seems to me that the Church of God Almighty would be a powerful thing here on earth. It would do good in all its endeavors. It could not help but be blessed because of the love God would pour out on it. Rons church shows none of this. This church is to keep Ron and his family in a certain lifestyle. It has nothing to do with God. Worldwide made HWA a rich man and this is the legacy of the COGs. They’re money makers. Take away the tithe and they would never have existed. It attracts a certain type of individual to the ministry. Entitled and arrogant. And a certain type to the membership as well. I’ll let God decide what to call us. Maybe we will be blessed for our dedication , or maybe we just made rich mem out of a few crafty enough to hop on the WW bandwagon. I’m not sorry I have loved God or kept the Sabbath, but I am sorry I wasted so many years with this bunch of “churches”. God is there for all men, and the COGs do not have a monopoly on him, like they claim. As Ron and Co.get older, a few more will realize what he is or isn’t. His family will fail to keep all of its membership, but there will always be a few who will hang on to the bitter end waiting for some of the gravy to trickle down. They don’t realize, Ron has nothing to give them, and he can only recieve. When the money stops, Ron stops.This is the true legacy of the COGs.

  • Randy says:

    Well said Ozy

  • Ronco says:

    “What I want to know is, where is this “God’s Church” that he keeps speaking about???”

    Well, duh- it’s in beautiful Wadsworth, Ohio conveniently located right next to Giant Eagle supermarket…

    https://rcg.org/books/wigtc.html?gclid=CIeg8om3g84CFYcCaQodLOwOjw

  • hawkeye says:

    thought it was located in his basement… next to the golf course

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Yep, a “blue Light Special” bargain basement religion!

  • Fooled No More says:

    It would be terrific if that’s ALL that Ron and Laura end up with. Just enough people to fill up their basement and that’s it! Frankly, I’d like to see the membership go down to zero, but there will be those that will hang on unfortunately till the bitter end.

    Ozy, you got it correct! I’ve thought for a while now that those in PKG are playing some kind of spiritual “lottery”. That’s if they keep praying and “living the life” hard enough, what Ron says will finally come true.

    What a way to live life……….totally sad!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fooled No More,

    Actually it is a “waste of life”!

    It will be interesting to see what will happen the day after June 9, 2019! I wonder what loser weinland will have to say then?

    The world may be having some tough times, but one thing for sure is that Christ will not be here on earth at that time (6-9-19). Oh Boo Hoo for the false lying self proclaimed prophet loser weinland!!!!

    Hey loser weinland! Time is running out for you ~ time to pay your dues for all the falsehoods and lies!!!!! Looking forward to your end!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Actually on April 20, 2019 loser weinland will be proven to be a liar once again!!! (fifty days lie)

  • Randy says:

    My mom wasted 20 years of her life following this asshole !!

  • Randy says:

    What up ashole no profethsie , you are a little bitch and have nothing to do wit God punk ‘

  • Randy says:

    Just think Ron the asshole said don’t have no more children we have a new baby and love it to death a gift from God !!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland!! Your group is letting down!? The truth is your cash flow is in trouble!!!

    Oh Boo Hoo for loser weinland your scheme is finally coming down ~ Yeaaaaaaaaaaa!! You have been a lying money grabbing thief from day one!!! As a matter of fact you did prison time felon weinland for stealing money from the government, not to mention innocent people. So now you have the audacity to condemn the ones who have figured you out for the liar and the greedy thief that you really are.

    No sympathy here loser wienland ~ enjoying watching you suffer like you have done to so many others for your own selfish gains!!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Well Congrats Randy!

    Is this your child…..grandchild? I can remember sermons in times past where Ron alluded to the notion that not having a child was not that big of a deal. Come to think of it, I believe he said something to that effect in one of his Feast sermons years ago.

    Of course, this is of the belief that because there will be so many children coming back in the “Great White Throne”, that one shouldn’t be concerned with not having a kid.

    Well, I’m here to say that because I think that all that he’s said about the millennium is a bunch of pure B.S., I find it offensive now for him or anyone else to tell someone else that they shouldn’t be having a baby.

    How insulting!

    Interesting though that neither Jeremy or Audra have any kids as far as I know. In fact, I’m about positive neither one of them has kids because I would have heard about/seen them during the years I was with this bunch.

    Audra’s “clock” is running out if she insists on listening to Daddy—–I know how old she is and as each year goes by, well that’s time that’s lost forever.

  • Ronco says:

    Well, we all know that kids are a big expense and that leaves less money for Ron.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Don’t forget that loser weinland is self centered and selfish that children would take attention away from HIM!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey Johnny!

    Getting ready to have the greatest liar of all time come to Georgia!? Time for drool and slobber over the loser weinland coming to town.

    As Beetlejuice would say, “IT’S SHOWTIME” in Georgia this weekend!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Georgia huh? I wonder if this is the same place that I went to in early 2012 where I spent upwards of $400+ on a round trip flight on top of a hotel room stay? This would have been just before the “huge letdown” of May 27, 2012 and IIRC, there were a LOT of people at this particular service with a giant potluck dinner afterwards. I can remember all the buzz about May 27, and this was just before we had another HUGE service in Cincinnati not long after.

    Little did we know…………

    You could liken it to a mini Feast with Ron and Laura getting their rings kissed. If only my crystal ball would have not been in the shop, and my better sense would have told me NOT to leave the job I was working at the time. Only to be bitterly disappointed when May 27th came and went without as much as even a shooting star streaking across the sky.

    BUT! I’ve certainly have much better sense now, and will NEVER, EVER throw money at such charlatans again!

    I took a look at the upcoming schedules of where they’re to be in the next number of months. He’s visiting Detroit twice within a couple months??Hmmm…………obviously the numbers aren’t what they used to be! In days gone by, we’d only see them at best maybe once a year in the mid Atlantic region! 😉

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fooled No More,

    Yep, that would have been the Ramada Inn in Forsyth, Georgia. However, it may be in East Dublin this time. Money getting tight for the liars.

    How do I know this, I asked former members of loser weinland church.

    Hoedown in Georgia this weekend!! Bring your check books cause the liar needs your cash!!!!!

  • Randy says:

    Fooled no More
    This baby is my great niece but we all call it my Grandbaby , I helped raise her father when he was young !!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fooled No More,

    I am of the opinion that if you took the time and calculated how many times he visit certain areas during the year, since being released from prison, it would tell you where the money is. This loser weinland is scared to the point of pooping in his pants because the ill begotten cash is disappearing. So, this loser has to cultivate the main source of income or face the streets of Cincinnati. Oh Boo Hoo for loser weinland and his demise!!!

    Hey loser weinland how many followers are you going to fleece this weekend in Georgia!!! Oh I see, first we have to instill fear into them and tell them they have let “you” down and people are leaving your group and it is their fault and not “you”. Hey you fool!! It is you that is the problem, provable liar and convicted tax felon!!!

    Well, get use to it dude, as time goes on it will only reinforce the truth that you really are a liar and thief!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey Dublin, Georgia!!

    You have a lying thieving “carpetbagger” coming to town to promote his false religion and to come get your cash!!! This carpetbagger is loser weinland and he is hungry for your wallet!!

    Hey loser weinland!! Got your number “good buddy” and am wise to your craftiness!!! Hope those good southern people tar and feather your butt and escort you to the state line!!!

    Where are you loser? Where is the promised book? Where are the 63,000? You don’t know!? That is nothing new, is it!?

  • Fooled No More says:

    I was surfing the ‘net today and came across by happenstance a very interesting article involving a cult. This article goes to show how getting sucked in can affect the “rich and famous” and what lengths they’ll go to just to “fit in”.

    You can check out the story here, and it involves a very well known model here in the United States as well as abroad.

  • Yes, the PKG is another sorry tale of sociopaths.

  • Randy says:

    Hey asshole and crooked family oh and Gossipping bitch what up , money flow slow down , no prophetise come true , are you week and sick from be in Fedral Prison so long bubba wore you out !

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Well Well Well the hoedown in dublin georgia is now said and done.

    Did you put fear into them loser weinland!? Have to keep the cash flowing or its the streets of cincinati ~ oh boo hoo for loser weinland!!!!

  • Randy says:

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  • Randy says:

    Hope these ashole’s starve to death !!! Did I ever say I hate these assholes !!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland

    Did you enjoy all the drool and slobber in dublin georgia? The good news is that you are stagnant with zero growth and you are fearful of going public. It is obvious the cash has a higher priority with you loser weinland.

    I was on the interstate the other day and a huge bus passed me that had a name on it: Tree of Life Ministry Apostle???. I immediately thought of you loser weinland and how you lust for that. A BIG name and an endless flow of cash!!!! Oh, I see you drooling now!!!

    By the way, where are you loser weinland?? Aren’t you supposed to be in the public eye?? Nope you are not, have to keep what still under your influence to fleece and intimidate. You really are a pathetic creep loser weinland.

  • Ronco says:

    Hey Ron, how’s the Luxury Fund coming along?

  • Randy says:

    Mike
    You still out there ?

  • Fooled No More says:

    I’ve been wondering the same thing Randy. I haven’t seen Mike post on here for a while……………..I hope all’s well.

    I myself have been dealing with some health difficulties as of late. About two and half weeks ago, I was having loss of vision in my right eye, particularly my lower peripheral vision. I especially noticed it a couple Saturdays ago when I had a roofer come to my house to check out some work that may need to be done, and I was noticing a “darkness” creeping into my lower peripheral vision every so often as we were talking outside in the sunlight.

    When I went to work the following Monday, it had gotten worse, so I called my eye Doctor who wanted me to come in ASAP. Well, it turned out after he examined the X-ray’s that I had a detached retina in the right eye, and I was referred to a retinal specialist.

    They determined that I’d needed surgery, and I went under the “knife” (more like a probe) a couple days later. As of now, I have a gas “bubble” implant in my eye, and it’s been a bit of a challenge to do certain things at times. such as type the words you all are seeing here. I now have at least my upper peripheral vision back, but the Doc says that 60% of the bubble is still there, and it would be a while before it dissipates. So far he sees no anomalies with my retina and there seems to be hopefully no sign of scar tissue which would be bad.

    I can drive, but I have to wear sunglasses of course as my eyes are VERY light sensitive, so I limit driving to absolute necessities such as getting to the Dr’s, and getting something from the store. Of course, I’m off work over all of this because I’m a machine operator where I work, and they don’t want me taking chances if my sight is compromised as it is.

    My point in bringing up all of this is that had I continued to stay with PKG, there is NO WAY I could have come up with the money that was needed upfront before they would do the procedure. I would have had to go hat in hand asking for money to help out, meanwhile I could have gone blind because as of the day of my surgery, I was down to just half of the vision in my right eye. Had I let this go any longer, I could have ended up permanently blind in that eye. I liken it to what I went through when I needed some serious dental attention at the end of 2014 into early last year, and that was a very painful reminder.

    Douglas’s recent blog reinforces how dangerous all of the Armstrong churches are in this regard and while some may not forbid you to seek medical help, they make it very difficult to have to pay for anything that may need to be done due to their oppressive tithing practices.

    You get to go blind, as long as you’re paying that 20%+ “in obedience to God”.

    Thankfully, I did have the money I needed to get what I needed done, and I can only thank God I got away from them when I did. Who knows what the result would have been had I stuck around and continue to be “blinded” by what they were teaching.

    No pun intended…………… 😉

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fooled No More:

    I am glad you had the means to get your eye taken care of.

    Interesting correlation between being blinded by a lying thieving merchandising turd like loser weinland and actual physical blindness. It’s disturbing, but I do know some who have delayed or put off medical attention because of creeps like loser weinland demanding their money.

    The worst part is that creeps like loser wienland could care less about someone lacking the means to take care of medical problems as long as they get their money as a mandatory tithe of their income. It sicken me to be in knowledge that these festering merchandisers of God’s Word do this as a “living” at the expense of others financial and medical needs!!

    As I understand it, tithing is given in faith by the individual who chooses willingly to do so. For it to go some demanding greedy loser, like weinland, for a living is not what it is meant for!!! I am aware of loser weinland on how well they are living at the expense of others. I have also noted that a lot of expenses have been cut back so loser weinland and his “whatever” can maintain their life style. For example, the reduction in feast sites and encouraging regional area drool and slobber visits and cutting out the smaller areas visits. It is all about money and it can’t be denied by this loser weinland. All he is about is lies and more lies to gain a living from others hard work and could care less about their well being both financially and health issues.

    I am encouraged that the cash flow is affected and look forward to when it can no longer support these creeps.

  • Eric says:

    Hey Mike

    I’m getting worried. Time for a new post. Hope you are well and life is looking after you.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Sorry for not checking in lately. I’m doing fine, just having a change of focus. I’ve been at this blog for awhile, and there have been a few things I let slide. Also planning to retire soon, so would have a bit more time.

    Still monitoring the situation loosely, so would give it more if something interesting happened. Such as the Two Witnesses breathed actual fire or turned some water into blood.

    Fooled No More, sorry to hear of your eye problem. Hope it was caught in time and you will soon recover.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Mike,

    Good to hear from you.

    It appears that loser weinland is in playing church mode. Apparently loser weinland doesn’t want to go public because of all his history being exposed to the general public. That could destroy what is left of his ill begotten income. I believe he is now in survival mode to protect whatever income he has left. I doubt if you will see fire coming out of his mouth or turning water into blood nor any outrageous predictions either.

    We will see.

  • Randy says:

    Mike 🙂

  • Eric says:

    Your quite right. Ronald Weinland has become BORING- more of the same – more of the same – more of the same – more of the same – more of the same – more of the same – more of the same – more of the same, – more of the same – more of the same

    Closely followed by

    Another prophecy, but I’m not absolutely saying it will happen, Another prophecy, but I’m not absolutely saying it will happen, Another prophecy, but I’m not absolutely saying it will happen, Another prophecy, but I’m not absolutely saying it will happen, Another prophecy, but I’m not absolutely saying it will happen, Another prophecy, but I’m not absolutely saying it will happen, Another prophecy, but I’m not absolutely saying it will happen

    Just to cover his bases and give him an out when 2019 rolls around.

    It would be more interesting if he did something exciting like issue another curse or make another prophecy or disfellowship somebody else.

    Come on Ron, we in the stands watching need some fresh entertainment. The last thing the two witnesses were in the book of revelation was BORING. You are BORING and 2019 is a long way and a long time to wait. What are we going to talk about for abt 3 years if you are BORING.

    And thanks Mike for your efforts. He actually managed to move the goal post and become less of a target by becoming BORING . The flip side is he is less of a danger to society by becoming BORING because he is too scared to expose his history and a lot of that is to do with your efforts.

    Hopefully his members will be BORED and then wake up and see it too.

  • martin says:

    Let us say that Ronald Weinland start performing genuine miracles tomorrow.

    Would that then confirm that he is one of the two witnesses?

    Absolutely not.

    Most would look to miracles, and be deceived and taken.

    The Bible mentions other qualifiers but most will not bother to know what these are.

  • Ronco says:

    Hey Laura, any juicy gossip out there?

    Victoria’s Secret is a bit expensive, perhaps you should look for a blue light special on bloomers at the local Kmart…

  • Ronco says:

    Good to hear from you again, Mike! We wouldn’t the neighbors to spread rumors that Ron’s curse finally caught up with you!

  • Excogger says:

    Mike, thanks for touching base and putting our minds at rest. Many people, including me, appreciate your efforts over the years to expose this self-appointed prophet and self-proclaimed #3 being in the Universe for what he is – a modern-day thieving, manipulating, deceiving, paranoid, sociopathic, autocratic, blasphemous BORE of a Pharisee!
    But someone has to do the job….
    Herbert would have been proud. Ahhh! Ron’s hero and business plan author.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… blue light special on bloomers at the local Kmart …”

    LOVE IT!!!!!!!

  • martin says:

    I don’t know if anybody heard of this incident, maybe somebody remembers.

    A few years back, I don’t know how long, a minister in one of the splinters who was in a wheelchair claimed to be Jesus Christ and/or God.

    Is anybody familiar with this incident and would know more details?

  • Randy says:

    The asshole and gossip whore are trying to scare the all PGK in to sending money !!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland!! I saw the title of your drool and slobber speech in dublin georgia. “own your choices pt 1”. Really!! Do you own your choices of being a thieving liar and convicted felon!!??

    Getting worried there loser weinland that soon they will figured this out for themselves and walk away from your stinking lies!!!

    You are the worst of the worst of hypocrites!!!!!!

    lies lies and more lies!!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    Funny, the US government had to make Ron own HIS OWN choices. Always checking out the sliver in someone else’s eye with a log in his own. Not paying his taxes properly was surely a CHOICE.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Here is some quotes from loser weinland’s drool and slobber speech that was given in dublin georgia.

    And kind of mixed emotions about all that because most of the people that were together at that time are no longer around; the vast majority of people who used to come together.

    Because far, far more have gone by the wayside. but just in the past few years of the time period of measuring the temple where there are people who sit right with some of you in this area when we’ve had services, people who have sit together in the same services who once they have gone out it’s gone.

    And so we still have… Someone asked me before services here, “Are there some still going?” And I said, “Yes.” And some are still being suspended, and some are still going by the wayside. And it isn’t over with yet! And I have no qualms about that! Because what needs to be cleaned up needs to be cleaned up. And it either repents and makes itself right with God or it’s gone! Because this Body is going to be cleansed! This Body is going to be clean! This Body is going to be on fire for God’s way of life and fight for it till the end!

    I don’t find it hard telling people, “Yeah, I’ve been in prison the last three years.” You know, that’s the main thing when the interviews (if we have some of those come along again) that’s what they’re going to want to go to. Say, “Where were you?” “Over in Terre-Haute.” “Why were you over there?” I’m not going to have a hard time with that.

    And, anyway, things happen sometimes in God’s Church to try us, to see what we’re going to do. 2012 was a big one for God’s Church, because that year wasn’t going to make your life better no matter what happened. 2019 is not going to solve your drama,

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland! You are a real clown!!! You are the problem!!! I thank God that those who have left had their eyes and understanding opened to see you and your whatever wife what the two of you are all about!! Soon all of them will be free of you and your whatever wife!!!! That day is coming fast loser weinland and I am looking forward to it with total absolute glee!!!! Let’s face it, you know it too. Let’s get on with all of the fear and intimidation loser to save your ill begotten thieving cash flow!!!!

    It appears you are still afraid of the interviews because you know that you will be confronted on all your lies and falsehood ~ to use your words, “bring it on”!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    “2019 is not going to solve your drama”.

    I beg to differ! 2019 IS going to solve a lot of people’s drama when more (and hopefully many) will see that they’ve been had and played big time for all of these years! They’ll see Ron and Laura for the frauds they truly are, and will make their final exit.

    PUUUHLEEEZE!! The same old tired scare tactics trying instill fear and worrying about leaving the church! 2019 will come and go just like ’08, ’11, ’12, ’13.

    And yes EIE you’re right! Ron will NEVER go in front of the press and give an interview. He’ll always have an excuse for not doing so knowing full well that he will be totally SKEWERED, as they can get access to this site too with all of the FACTS!

    Frankly, I’d pull up a chair and break out the popcorn to SEE him interviewed! It would be terrific entertainment at best! 🙂

  • Once an Elder says:

    EIE & FNM:

    I have a message for weinland, I do own and take great satisfaction in the choice I made to walk away from weinland and his group! It is very clear now what a charlatan weinland really is.

    It is interesting to read that some are on suspension and some are getting ready to leave his group. As a former elder, I can say that the issue is that they have stopped paying money to weinland. This is the only thing that matters to weinland.

    To those who are suspended and going wayward, do not delay any longer and walk away from weinland and all his lies and falsehoods. The moment you do this you will see for yourself that weinland is a liar and is only interested in your money.

    I have also noted that weinland is back to the same old scare tactics and so forth. It will prove to be ineffective and the wise (suspended and wayward) will walk away.

  • martin says:

    When Ron mentioned cleansing the temple, I didn’t realize it meant excommunicating the entire flock, which it seems is what he’s doing.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Ron always brow beating people with far less than he has, people who work hard for a living and still struggle. Belittling people with far less education and brains than he has, yet extracting every dime he can from them and calling their problems “drama”.Such a lack of love from someone who is supposed to be FILLED with the love of God! He really doesn’t care what happens to you, just as long as you pay your tithes. THIS is what they’re checking on when they visit. When they ask how well you’re doing , it’s with how much they’re going to get out of you. The don’t care if your driving a 10 year old car, but if it’s new, they will check your tithing records. So sad so many people still think Ron has some sort of power. They will waste more years beating a dead prophet.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Remember Ron, you’re not kicking people out, they’re leaving. I haven’t regretted leaving your sorry organization for one second, just to be clear, and I still have my wonderful relationship with God, as that is NOT a gift from you like you would have people to believe. More will wake up , but sadly I know some will always kiss your ass, because they think you have the keys to the Kingdom. You have nothing to offer, not even kindness.

  • Once an Elder says:

    Ozy,

    I fully agree with you on getting weinland out of your life.

    Since I have removed the clutter (weinland) from my life my relationship with God soared and is growing every day. Never again!!!! will I ever put my trust and/or my spiritual life into the hands of the likes of weinland!!!

    My prayers are only for the ones who are now seeing the lies of weinland and are now getting ready to walk away!!! Do it now!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    The COGS convinced people they have a monopoly on God, the Sabbath , etc. Nothing could be farther from the truth. ALL they have a MONOPOLY on is tithing. This is their main doctrine. I maintain that if you take it away they will fade away. NOTHING could make God fade away! They ONLY exist because people are foolish enough to give them money they don’t even have. People are taught to tithe first and formost, like God didn’t care if you paid your bills or had food to eat. If you had ” difficulties” too bad. So many foolish people over the years. The churches just count on foolishness. People are taught that they’re giving generously to God , but in reality the tithe just goes to enhance the ministers lives. What does God need with money? Yes, we should willingly help each other, but keeping the ministers in expensive housing , cars , and clothing while you go without, is wrong.

  • Acts says:

    Ron Weinland is a man of Sin, he puts himself in the place of God and Christ . He makes himself God to decide which parts of the Law are acceptable and which parts are not . He is partial in the Law . He still has not repented for the False prophecy of 2012 and 2013. There is Blood on his hands for leading people completely out of the way! Ron is the fulfillment of his own Tkach prophecy only he does not see it . In the end there will be many many people who fulfill 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 , Ronald Will be one of them “a Judas “. It is sad to see so many people still following him , but they also are not taking God’s word very serious ( Deu 18:22 is part of the Law) Pkg makes flesh their arm , they trust in man not God . Ron is their King (their God) their Idol. They take his word over what God says in the Bible , they will not be happy with the end result. Matthew 7:23 LAWLESSNESS .

  • Enough is Enough says:

    It is obvious that loser weinland does read this blog. Loser weinland comments about radio interviews is what gives it away.

    Remember all the hoopla about his failed third book being published by late spring and how loser weinland was going to be doing radio interviews to bring the world into submission to him. Also, that all of the cogs would be worshiping at his feet. Also, that the current tv commentators of the major cogs would be dead and off the airways.

    Well, where is it?

    Hey loser weinland! Do you “own” these loud mouth lies!!?? You are quick to condemn others for their choices, but, you ignore your own very bad and misleading choices!!

    It is YOU that is the BAD CHOICE!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Oh, by the way, are you a little sensitive in being called a coward!? OH BOO HOO FOR YOU LOSER WEINLAND!!!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    EIE, it’s interesting too that his book has been “digital” only and not a hardbound copy. I distinctly remember Laura at the last Feast (2014) I attended making mention that a digital only copy of the book was a possibility.

    That’s too bad as I would have really liked a hardbound, 3D copy of the book in my hands. You see, that would have been a perfect thing to have in my big ‘ol hands as I “shred” it to pieces in a YouTube video I would have put up for all to see.

    I know he sees this blog as he referred to it quite a bit in sermons in times past. Of course, I being “blinded” out of fear to check things out——-ESPECIALLY after his trial, I just went along to get along till I couldn’t stand it any longer. I also got wind that certain elders read this blog despite the fact that Ron would be mortified if he knew they were checking things out. Hopefully they’re among the ones that are about to make their break.

    He may in fact have read where I would put his business out there in the street as I’m quite well known in certain circles of this country. Nevertheless, the whole “book” was a complete bust as the only ones who might have read it were the ones in PKG if even they read any of it at all.

    I’d sure like to know who all are the ones are that are fed up and fixin’ to leave. I bet I know them and they sure would know me. Time will tell as I got an inkling that the dam is about to burst, and even more of his “income” will have dried up.

    2019 will hopefully be the icing on the cake.

  • Ozymandias says:

    One thing about digital, is you can go back in and edit out all of the failed prophesies. Can’t do THAT with paper.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Ozy, your comments above reminded me of pretty much the exact thing I went through just before I left PKG. At literally the end of 2014, I had some rather tough choices to make financially. My car was on the verge of needing some MAJOR repairs to pass inspection, and at the same time, I was literally hurting physically with much advanced gum disease in which I already had lost three teeth that year. One came out on its own, the other two had to be pulled. The Dentist recommended then (Mid 2014) that I have the rest of them pulled, but that was out of the question at that time.

    So, I had a big choice………..do I get the rest of these teeth pulled, or do I get another car? Well, I NEED a car to get back and forth to work, so I plunked down a somewhat sizeable down payment, and bought a very nice two year old car.

    Fast forward a couple months later, and someone in the church had offered to help with my dental work as they can obviously see that I needed it badly, and they initially were going to front the money I needed to get it done. Since I did have dental insurance at work, I would have gotten a little more than half the money back which would have covered this individual’s money that they would give to me.

    A couple weeks go by, and I get a text from this person telling me that I should get at least three estimates before the church would help out. I immediately got quite angry as I never approached the church about paying for anything, this was supposed to be a somewhat private transaction between this person any myself.

    I am almost certain that this person when they went to the church, whoever they spoke to, knew that I had bought a new car, they were checking out what I was paying (tithing to them stopped pretty much at that point), and told them to tell me that if I wanted help, I needed to get three estimates first.

    That was the end.

    It wasn’t long after that I sent the letter of leaving to Patty Dalrymple and company letting them know I no longer wanted to be a part of the church. The failed prophecies were one thing, but here I am literally suffering greatly physically, and this is the thanks I get. Never mind that just a few months earlier, I spent HUNDREDS of dollars to attend the Feast.

    Well, after leaving the church a couple months later at work one day, out of the blue a lady I’ve known for years, mentions about a free dental clinic that’s going to be in our area. I said hmmmmm……………..I’m going to check that out!

    I went, and they pulled all of the rest of my teeth for FREE, I went to my own dentist about a week or so later, and got full dentures which I was able to pay for out of pocket because I WAS NO LONGER SENDING MONEY TO RON AND LAURA!!

    So lets see………ditch a false prophet and his false “prophetess” wife? CHECK!
    Get myself a new car right before ditching them? CHECK!
    Get myself new teeth to boot? CHECK!
    Get my eyes taken care of recently with money I have now that I wouldn’t have if I stayed with them? CHECK!
    Get myself piece of mind knowing full well good money is no longer going after bad? DOUBLE CHECK!!

    Ok, rant now over! 😀

  • Randy says:

    Hahaha
    The asshole and gossip money whore go back and edit everything folks , do no trust these people one bit , go back and read the Court doc. Everything order outh , or confirmed !!! Nothing they ever said happen in 20 years but the little wisel Ron Weinland stole your money ,
    $1700 suits
    $500 messages
    Condo’s for kids
    Kids on pay roll
    BMW for the family
    Dimound rings
    Teddy bears
    And plenty more folk !!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fooled No More:

    Interesting how things went after you dumped loser weinland and his whatever wife. According to loser weinland that should have “not” happened! You should have been in total disarray and suffering!!

    Hummmmmm what happened there loser weinland!? Just more of the same old lies and intimidation!!!!

    Hey membership of pkg! Want to get the attention of loser weinland?? Just quit sending money to him!!!! That will guarantee your suspension or disfellowshipment!!!

    Reality can be very harsh when you are being screwed by a convicted thieving liar!!!!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    I do not believe in tithing any longer, but If I did, it would be on your increase. After you have taken care of your life’s necessities , you would have an increase. You should never have to run around with painfully bad teeth, and drive a dying car. Perhaps some people would never tithe even if they had plenty, but that would be between them and God. Just like keeping the Sabbath or not eating certain foods is again between you and God. Only God can judge us based on what we truly believe. We allowed the church to have absolute authority over us and we know what happens when men have absolute power. Ron is just a big old arrogant slice off of the WWCG cake. They told you what to do, what to wear, who to marry, and basically everything else they could interfere with. We let them because we trusted them and thought it would put us closer to God. We found we could NOT trust them, and only you can put yourself closer to God. An expensive lesson for all of us, and I don’t just mean financially. Years wasted, opportunities not taken. Ron came along and made it even worse by telling people not to marry, not to have children. Always having their nosy little fingers in someone else’s life. EXCEPT , when you needed a car or your teeth fixed, then you were on your own.

  • Once an Elder says:

    A couple of facts:

    To gain acceptance to weinland organization three things are required:

    1) tithing is a requirement prior to an invitation to visit with the group.

    2) denial of Christ’s existence prior to his ministry on earth.

    3) must be in complete agreement with weinland’s theology (any disagreement will not be tolerated).

    The actual duty of a elder(s) is to monitor the members for behavior that is contrary to weinland’s dictates and to report them to the weinlands for a decision of punishment in the form of suspension or removing them permanently. The behaviors issues are based on two issue:

    1) failure to tithe.

    2) disagreement with weinland’s theology.

    There was very little, or none at all, tolerance for the above issues.

    Welcome to weinland’s organization.

  • Ozymandias says:

    When Ron changed the doctrine of Chists previous existence , he tolerated zero talk about it. You either jumped right on board or got out. He said flatly, that there would be no discussion. The squeaky wheel does not get the grease, it gets replaced. Yes men are the only men in Rons group.He believes it to be a tight ship. Any one in disagreement gets to walk the plank.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    This sounds like something straight out of the playbook of jim jones!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland I have a question for you:

    What kind of monster are you!!??

  • FedUp says:

    EIE,

    What kind are there?

    Ron meets the criteria for so many.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fedup you are right.

    It is the constant lying and misleading and inability to accept the fact that he (weinland) is a liar!!! This constant blaming others for all the lies he has been caught in and then loser weinland has the audacity to blame God for all his lies!!!!

    This loser weinland just goes on and on and on!! Your day of reckoning is coming loser weinland and I will take pleasure in it!!!

  • hawkeye says:

    lets see…we had to excommunicate some people who just wernt quite up to par on official church standards ..so for all you new people out here ..there are now 63000 open spaces just waiting to be filled…hurry ..they wont last long ..tithing is required

  • martin says:

    Here’s my question, I hope to find out what your reaction would be.

    What if tomorrow Ron actually started to breathe fire,what would your response be?

    Would you start to believe in him and follow him and join Pkg?

  • martin says:

    (Question not addressed to anybody in particular)

  • Excogger says:

    I wouldn’t follow Ron even if he turned into a permanent active volcano.

  • Fooled No More says:

    No. There’s still all the baggage and damage that would have been done from all the past lies and corruption that he caused. A true servant coming from God would have no such foibles, or “excuses” as to why there are such.

    I wouldn’t follow Ron even if he turned into a permanent active volcano.

    Now THAT is funny! 😀

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… NOPE! …”

  • Ozymandias says:

    I’d have to ask myself where the power came from.

  • hawkeye says:

    satan has the power to turn his agents into messangers of light and have them do “miracles”..do not marvel at this says the scriptures…so NO i would not follow wienland …wienland hasnt even done that much ..all he has done is LIE…STEAL…PROPHESY FALSELY..

    change the WORD of GOD to suit his own personal selfish interests..DECEIVE ..SLANDER …etc..etc…quite a resume

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Just getting caught up on the blog again. Anyway, Fooled no More, you forgot how much more peaceful life is without Ron. He caused conflict in marriages, that then break up. That way he can continue to control the one person. These people want to much to believe God will return now in 2019, that they forget to actually read the Bible. I can remember when he would say, don’t listen to me, read it for yourself. That changed to put your Bible down and just listen to Ron. When that started, problems arose. Usually because one was checking things out, the other was just following Ron. If you tried to discuss it, you were tossed out. Then the partner that stayed, was told to divorce, cause that was the only way to have peace.

    Personally, I can say, I have been blessed more since leaving (kicked out) then when attending.

  • Ozymandias says:

    You can’t just be there for the destruction, you have to be merciful as well. Ron does not show much love to any but the ones who clamor after him. All he wants to do is get even with those who cross him. Sound like Christ? I don’t think so.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Glad I’m Free, YES! Life IS more peaceful without Ron and PKG! No more worrying about if I’m going to have enough money to pay tithes the next paycheck, no more hoping I can have enough of 2T to go off somewhere too far away for the FOT, and wondering how to pay the bills once I got back home.

    Not having to sell expensive collectibles (yes, I did that a couple times) to have enough money to get to the FOT——and now regretting it.

    There’s certainly peace of mind now knowing that my money stays with me to cover what I need, and not to send to a couple frauds. Wish I had did this back in June 2012 when that turned out to be a big fat lie, and certainly after Ron went to prison for massive tax fraud.

    I still have yet to see a scripture that says that’s what would happen to the two witnesses! One goes off to prison, the other gets to live the good life still while the other “suffers” in prison. Oh!—–and gets to travel around, spread malicious and false gossip (I heard it), and play the “poor me” as I also heard stories about how “bad” the prosecution was, and how Ron was treated so “unfairly” during the whole trial.

    Court documents and records say otherwise though…………… 😉

  • Ozymandias says:

    If your money had gone to something truly worthwhile , you would not regret it at all. You could see the good it did, and be happy enough to go without, to help others. This is not at all what happens in any of the COGS. It’s mostly spent on a life style for the ministers. Many of them weren’t even good speakers, so you really didn’t get your money’s worth. LOL Herbert set them on high and they all loved it. People did what they were told to do or they were kicked out. This all had nothing to do with faith in God and everything to do with obedience. It’s still that way, and the members are so conditioned to it they don’t even notice. They even agree with it. Don’t think that all of the membership is duped, theyre not. They agree with Ron, and wouldn’t care at all if evil befell any one of us. We do have peace of mind now, knowing that what we practice, is what we truly believe. Maybe they fell the same. They would be content if we all got “what we deserve”. Doesn’t sound like anything Christ ever preached.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Well Ozy, certainly sound like a destructive cult to me!!

    There is “nothing” related to any good in loser weinland’s group!!! Just keep the money flowing in folks!!!!!

  • Once an Elder says:

    To answer Martin Question: !!!! HELL NO !!!!!

    After ejecting weinland out of my life things have been terrific!!!! My relationship with God is a thousand times greater than when I was part of weinland’s group!!!

    I appeal to the membership to question “everything” weinland is putting out!!! They are all lies and deceptions for his own personal gains!!!! Take the time to take a long look at his life style and criminal history.

    The best way to find out is to stop giving him money!

  • Ozymandias says:

    For me it’s not what he has so much as the way he treats others. Actually makes fun of people who are under financial stress. He really doesn’t care what goes on in your life unless it affects him.And by him, I mean the whole family. At 19 Jeremy was running around in his new sporty BMW. Do you think for one minute he cared if others struggled to keep a car running , or lost a job due to Sabbath keeping? No, they were all entitled to whatever they could get. They didn’t give others a single thought. The one doctrine that Ron will take to his grave is tithing. He will NEVER look into that one. Then lie on his taxes to boot. Just plain old greedy , the whole family. The IRS only went back 5 years, but I’ll bet Ron has always been creative on his taxes.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Based on the oh so obvious fruits, I’d automatically assume that anything coming from Armstrongism would simply have to be from Satan. If their version of the prophecies started to come to pass, or any of them started doing miracles, I’d have to question where it came from and where it would lead to. There is no way Jesus would set up Armstrongism as the permanent government of God for all eternity. It does too much damage to the mind and to the soul, falsely convincing people that the New Covenant is actually the old written on people’s hearts. We’re talking very real, long term psychological damage that incapacitates people. Makes them suppress whatever innate good we all have within us, replacing it with the vanity associated with being the only ones with a special set of knowledge, their own version of gnosticism, breeding contempt for anyone else who either does not know, or disproves and rejects that gnosticism. Frankly, the arrogance producing effect of the legalism was what was wrong with the Old Covenant. It was a good code for the times, but did nothing to nourish the soul, or to elevate or sublimate human nature. The Pharisses who rigidly followed it and even added amplifications to it could not duplicate the superior spirituality and transcendency of Jesus Christ.

    Ron might breathe fire. But if he does, it’s going to be because he’s got lighter fluid in his mouth like Gene Simmons of Kiss, not because he’s one of the two witnesses.

  • Ruby McCormick says:

    Would I follow him – AGAIN??? Oh hell no. He’s Satan’s puppet, what else would I expect. Satan’s even growing tired with him I bet – such a miserable FAILURE. I know he and his family are evil, stinking with it. I don’t listen to any flesh and blood about any belief system they hold out for membership. He’s the LAST ONE I would give any time to.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Quote from loser weinland “own your choices pt 2”

    “… and the one that kills me the most are husbands and wives. If you can’t live together and you can’t grow spiritually together, figure out what you have to do to change that so you can grow. If it means be separated for a time, so be it.

    Well well well loser weinland its back to destroying marriages again ~ how many marriages is it now? You really are scum loser weinland!!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Quote from loser weinland “own your choices pt 2”

    “… When we took off from Cincinnati to go down to Georgia, we actually drove it …”

    Hummmmm couldn’t afford the plane ticket loser weinland!? Must be nice to drive in your BMW ~ HUH!!!!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    EIE, just thinking out loud——it could be that he’s restricted from flying as part of his probation. Don’t know but that wouldn’t surprise me. Hey Ron! You get to see how the rest of us had to deal with driving to and fro WITHOUT the luxury of even thinking about air fare for the most part.

    How’s that??

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Quote from loser weinland “own your choices pt 2”

    “… it seemed to hit a few people – see, I know where I’m going to be in a few years. I hope with all my being, and I believe with all my being it’s 2019, as much as I did with 2012. But that didn’t happen. I’m prepared for whatever …”

    Here it is folk!!!!! The big lie is coming apart and loser weinland knows it!!!!!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    He thinks he will be on top of the world, just under Jesus Christ, but if I’m not, it won’t cost ME a dime. I’m not paying for any of this, you are! I just sound so darned confident, but if I’m wrong, so what? You all are paying the bills here see? I just go on , fishing for another date. I don’t care if he comes or not, cause it’s not costing me much to be wrong.

  • martin says:

    Of course Ronald Weinland is a false prophet. Ron KNOWS 100% that his prophecy is bogus and won’t happen. Now what if Ron was imbued with miraculous powers? It won’t be from God. God doesn’t work with prophets who have a zero (really negative) batting average.

    But the bible does say that *false* prophets will be performing miracles in the end time. This has not happened yet in any big way. But the bible states it will happen, so it is entirely possible that Ron will be imbued with miraculous powers. I personally think that false prophets will perform miracles, I don’t think Ron will be among them as his batting average is SO BAD, that he would be a useless tool, even with miraculous powers.

  • Randy says:

    I hope Ron and Laura die in there BMW ! Did I ever say how much I hate these crooks, I like Charley Manson more than these assholes , they stole all the peoples money and they are broke ! Fu:k the Weindland family Mafia Ron your and asshole and don’t shit but stealing money !!! Bury him in in his $1700 suit !

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Quote from loser weinland: “… spit on it, defecate on it …”

    Hey! Loser weinland what is this gutter language about!!?? Oh I see, you learned it while in prison ~ I guess the saying is true, once a convict always a convict.

    Are you missing the “boys” back in the prison you spend three years in!!?? You really are trashy scum aren’t you!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Quote from loser weinland: “… Since I’ve been out I’ve had to suspend people and disfellowship people. And I don’t have one problem
    whatsoever to do it …”

    Hey loser weinland the real truth is that they have stopped giving you money. We all know that once that happens that you no longer have any use for them ~ no more money no longer can be a member of my private fund raising organization!!!

    They are dumping you loser because they have finally figured out that you are a thieving greedy liar!! Like you said, “I hope 2019 is the year”. Why are you hoping?? You have told everyone that God has given you this date first hand!! Just like 08, 11, 12, 13, and now 19.

    Saaay, why aren’t you and your whatever wife empowered? God Word’s states 42 months and you are way way less than that to your false date of 2019. Just more of the same old lies lies and more lies!!!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    The only “power” they have is bitching and cashing checks. Maybe a few more are realizing that’s all they’re good for. Hard to tell everyone how to live after you spend 3.5 years in jail for fraud. Ron wants to be the one making up all the rules. You guys are right, a few people probably fell behind in tithes when he was in jail, and now he’s checking tithing records again. Tithing is the ONLY real doctrine of the PKG. all the others pale in comparison to RONS DOCTRINE. Don’t send me money, get out! Remember, this tithe is the main doctrine of the COGS. No tithe, no church.

  • Fooled No More says:

    One of the folks that I’m quite certain stopped sending money to PKG was a friend (I still consider him a friend) that contacted me not long after I left the church. He was quite apologetic that he didn’t keep in touch with me as much as he’d liked as he was going through a very difficult time with his elderly mother. He knew that I was struggling and was sorry he couldn’t have done more to help.

    It was not long before he wrote me that I found this blog, and I went to tell him the things that I’ve learned, and I sent him the URL for here. He wrote back and was quite surprised at what he had read as this was not the story being portrayed particularly by Ron whenever he would make a new post on his blog. I know firsthand from hearing it from the horses mouth (Laura) that everything that she said happened was one big fat lie.

    He said that it’s one thing to send money to a ministry and expect that good things would come out of it. It’s quite another to read that your money went to such things as keeping up a very expensive home, new car(s), cruises, expensive clothes, etc.

    He said that he would continue to listen to the sermons as he did like to hear Wayne give them as he put it, but he would NOT send another dime to the church! He was struggling as it was with difficulty finding work at times. I’m hoping (in a sinister way) that Ron did tell him to leave and that he’s finally free from this rotten bunch, and can truly start living a free man.

    If he’s reading this he’ll know who I am by my writing style, and he’d certainly remember our conversation on the phone which was just over a year ago.

    You have my number and email addy———–PLEASE get in touch with me when you can!

    I truly, truly hope that many more will abandon ship, before they’re caught sinking with it with no way out.

  • Ozymandias says:

    My mom used to say that it was not her business if they were lighting their cigars with her 10 dollar bills. She believed strongly in tithing. Having said that years later she was quite shocked to realize how they did waste her money. She thought Ron would be different. She would be shocked again. It’s one thing to tithe on your increase , but oft times you have a very small if any increase from your paycheck after you just cover the basics. Hardly any of us get to vote ourselves a pay raise like Ron did if things get a little tight. Giving his two worthless children jobs whether they really worked or not. Ron and Laura are out of touch with reality after so many years of someone else paying all the bills.Not everyone has the same earning potential but we all pay the same price for a gallon of milk. Ron simply does not care about any of the problems of the little people in his church. Boo hoo and blah blah blah , he is famous for saying. He wouldn’t be a minister today if it were not lucrative . This is true for most if not all of the COG ministers. People were just afraid of being left behind or kicked out so they struggled along. You simply cannot be a cheerful giver when you can’t pay your rent or buy food. This is not the way of Christ, and people will realize it one day.

  • Excogger says:

    Dear Ozy
    Ron’s version of “tithing” is so different from the Old Covenant system ( null and void since our Saviour’s death and resurrection ) that what he demands is nothing but extortion on the pretext of a “test commandment” from his god, whoever that may be….
    Dear Ronald
    Prove me wrong in the following:-
    The tithing laws were a part of the Old Covenant, which was specifically between God and ancient Israel.
    It was levied on the increase of agricultural enterprises only ( animals, farm produce, herbs, etc. ) i.e., every tenth lamb, ox, measure of wheat, fruit, etc. Jesus and the disciples NEVER tithed – they were not farmers ( Fish were not tithable, neither were wages or the earnings of tradespeople.)
    The tithe was paid annually to the Levites, who comprised the Public Servants of Israel, the civil government, if you will.
    A tithe of the tithe was paid to the priests, the descendants of Aaron, for ecclesiastical services, temple activities, etc.
    Ron, you would have to be a descendent of Aaron ( got any proof??) and you would only be entitled to a share of 1% of the farming increases in the land of Israel.
    Good luck with claiming that, Ron, and all you other “Tithe demanders”.
    None of the Apostles ( the real ones ) ever demanded tithes. Perhaps you recall the instance of the Apostle Paul having to support himself by making tents while he ministered to various communities of believers.
    Get a real job, Ron, and cease and desist from sponging off others.
    By the way, the Jews today certainly do not tithe – they wouldn’t dare to field the possibility!

  • Randy says:

    Let me ask ,did Christ asked for tithes , he was a carpenter , Ron is a fu:&ing thief open your eyes PKG God does not want your money help some who needs it not Ron and his Gossipping wife and family !’

  • Bury him in in his $1700 suit !

    No, cast lots and give it to the winner.

    It’s Scriptural.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland, did you wish your mother a happy 83rd birthday!?

    Oh, I see, she dumped you for being a selfish liar!!! Oh Boo Hoo for you loser weinland!!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Ron’s Mom is a REAL nice lady! I met her in Cincy a few years ago, and somewhere I’ve got photos of her. Very pleasant to talk to and in hindsight, it’s interesting how Ron’s turned out the way he has.

    ANY good Mother would dump their kid(s) when it’s known they’re proven liars, and are doing it for nothing more than pure greed plain and simple! It was going around PKG that she was disfellowshipped, when that was not true. She and I believe also his sister LEFT THEM far behind once they got wind of the real truth at the trial.

    Someone then put out the lie they were put out when actually the reverse was true.

  • Once an Elder says:

    FNM:

    I have met Mrs. Weinland and had a very nice conversation with her. But, when I brought the subject up of her son (ron) the conversation turned negative and it wasn’t complimentary at all.

    It wasn’t long after that conversation that I was informed that ron’s mother, sister, and brother in law made an exit from ron’s organization. That was a beginning for me to question the integrity of ron weinland. I made an exit from ron’s organization not to long after that.

    The point is this, they knew that ron was lying and was only in it for his own gains. This was his “choice” to own and it cost him the respect of his immediate family!!!! They walked away from him (weinland) and it was not initiated by the liar himself!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    I listened as people in church gave bogus reasons as to why people left. They would say oh, they didn’t want to tithe or keep the Sabbath etc. Sometimes you could correct them if you knew the truth. I’m sure all of us who left were gossiped about unfairly. I would like to say most of us who left, we’re just sick of Ron and Co. and the lies they told. It could have been doctrinal or something else, like the trial. Whatever reason they gave, was legitimate. Take your pick from any number of really good reasons. How about he’s wrong about everything he does, from his doctrine right down to the way he treats people. The list could go on for a while. His family finally saw through him as did every one who left for whatever reason they left.

  • Ozymandias, were you able to tell them that some of them left because Weinland was a false prophet?

    If you did, how did that go over?

  • Ozymandias says:

    This was before I left. Out of respect( for myself) I never said anything negative about Ron & Co. before I quit. I was in the church for 40 years, believe me when I say it was a big deal without my saying anything. I never do anything without carefully weighing things out. I left WWCG the same way. I would never try to influence others. Speaking on this forum is as much as I would ever do. People are entitled to their own opinion, even if they’re wrong. I do think we should all be well informed of the truth so we can make a lodgical decision, and that is why I have commented here. I only contacted a few people through email to inform them I was leaving.

  • martin says:

    On the one hand, we should not gossip and spread bad tales (or lies) about people like Laura (false prophet #2).

    On the other hand, if the guy is a false prophet, there’s nothing wrong with calling him that.

    Christ if I remember correctly (I’m sort of paraphrasing in modern lingo), called the evil Jewish leaders of His day many things….dead men, foxes, open graves, pigs/swine, hypocrites, fools.

    Ronald Weinland is a liar, a thief, a false prophet, his lazy wife is a bum, gossiper, hedonist.

    Being a false prophet carries a death penalty, Ron should be worried about that.
    (this punishment is carried out by “reapers” or angels)

  • martin says:

    Matthew 24:24

    “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.”

    Signs, usually translated miracles, is from G4592. It is the same word used when describing Christ’s “signs” (miracles).

    This has not happened yet. So it is to come in the future at some point (perhaps soon?).

    So it is possible that false prophet Ron, may be given powers, and will trap those that are still there.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland!!!!

    Where is “part 3” of “own your choices”!? I can’t wait to review it and reveal more of your hypocrisy!!

    By the way, where are you? It will be a year in approximately two months when you claimed that you and your whatever wife would be the empowered two witnesses, well, where are you loser wienland!! No where to be seen or hear ~ is there a problem loser weinland?

    As always, just more of the same old lies and more lies!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    The problem for you loser weinland is Deut. 18:22. This is the verse where God is calling YOU a LIAR!!!!!!!

  • Acts says:

    Over the last decade , Ronald has shown many Signs and Wonders . The greatest Wonder of all is coming up with a date for the return of Jesus Christ . Jesus Christ , The Word of God made flesh said NO man would know the Day or the hour , but that word is not good enough for Ronald because he made himself God .
    Although Ronald has taken many numbers from the bible , he has misused them and has been DEAD wrong , all false signs! A false teacher is also a false prophet . There are many just as Christ said .

    http://www.ronaldweinland.com/2011/04/01/the-execution-of-judgment/

    Quite Insane .

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Hey loser weinland try this one:

    “IF” you were sanctioned by God to be what you claim to be it would have happened as you stated “THE FIRST TIME” ~ “BUT” it did not happen!!! Since you have failed four times (11, 12, 13, 19) at predicting Christ’s return, that would mean that you “ARE NOT” sanctioned by God to do what you are doing by claiming to be a prophet and one of the two witnesses.

    Prove me wrong loser weinalnd!!! The problem is you “cannot”!!!

    This is sooooooo easy to see ~ liar liar pant on fire!!!!!!!

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    If you say a brick wall in going to fall down, given enough time it will. Maybe that is what Ron is hoping for.

  • Randy says:

    Hey asshole let me know when you and the gossip queen can breath fire I’m going to have a party and make s’mores !

  • Enough is Enough says:

    There is no doubt that your are a presumptuous lying thief and your time of judgement is before you.

    All your treacherous scheming is now coming to an end. Very soon now your lying falsehood of 2019 is about to be exposed and it will be your end. Deut 18:22 is about to become a reality for you and you will suffer the full force of it. So be it, liar!

    No sympathy here for you or your family. Lying thieves your are and lying thieves you shall always be and it will now be made known to all and you will suffer the consequence of it.

    Your days of thumbing your nose at God are done.

  • Eric says:

    Interesting little snippet from Ron’s latest sermon

    “Anyway, I wanted to announce today that Brian is an elder in the area. He was an associate for a time there, raised him back to an elder. So you didn’t know that, did you? ANYWAY THIS IS NEWS TO HIM TOO.

    Yup – surprise. I need you again.

  • Eric says:

    And the next interesting comment

    “… concerning what I’m wearing as opposed to what some of you are wearing. It’s fine that you’re wearing suits and ties, but I want people to feel comfortable with the fact that if it’s 80°, 85, in the 90’s, you can wear something like this and it’s perfectly acceptable in the church environment, okay? And sometimes it’s hard for people to make that adjustment and shift, especially if you’ve been around the Church for a long, long time. That becomes harder because it’s kind of set in the mind that we always have to wear a suit and a tie. … So when it’s really, really hot, feel comfortable just to wear a short sleeved shirt. The one I’m wearing is not tucked in. You can wear it tucked in, out, whatever you want to do.”

    Ron’s members are set in the mind because they wear a suit and a tie to church and he has decided that he doesn’t have to.

    I bet he was presenting from an air conditioned room as well.

    I think he is growing tired of the game.

  • Ronco says:

    “So when it’s really, really hot, feel comfortable just to wear a short sleeved shirt. The one I’m wearing is not tucked in. You can wear it tucked in, out, whatever you want to do.”

    Whatever you want to do?!?!

    Oh, no!!! Maybe these really are the last days…

  • martin says:

    A 6.2 earthquake happened in Italy.

    Did Ron say anything? Prophesy anything? Is aware of anything? Was “responsible” for it or anything?

    No.

  • martin says:

    So…..wearing a short sleeve shirt….

    This is what Ron the false prophet is concerned about?

    This is fulfilling prophecy??????????¿

  • Byker Bob says:

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if some day, ACOG members got to wear contemporary casual attire to services every week? Traditional Armstrongism acts as if Jesus and the disciples themselves actually wore modern suits, and that it would be blasphemous for brethren to wear anything of less formality to services or even when they listen to the broadcasts.

    The thing about it is, this is all about shoring up the authority and stature of the ministry, not about right attitudes before God. They say that the church is “appearing before God” at sabbath services, but it’s become impossible over the past decades to believe that God actually has anything to do with Armstrongism.
    He surely does not validate their prophecies! If He did, members would want to wear their best, and would jump through all manner of other hoops as well. But, there has been a credibility problem ever since the great disappointment of 1975.

    BB

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    These assholes Ron and Laura kill me when they disfellowshipped people no one could talk to them , now the say they are all part of Armstrongs church , before they where the giving few and only ones God would take care of , but they know all Ron the asshole prohet shit never came true and money slowed down, it all Gods Church it was Ron’s church before 3rd in line to God seat ! What happen asshole and your Gossipping Bitch
    Ron and the Gossip bitch have nothing to do with God !

  • Fooled No More says:

    Where’s Audra?? She’s right there over in Europe and she’s supposed to be a “prophetess” now. She couldn’t see all this coming and give the poor folks in Italy ample warning??

    Of course not.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Audra a prophetess , wow still can’t get over that one. According to Laura , she was a little light in the gray matter department. She would tell stories of the stupid things she did, and then end with how she just wanted to marry her off in ANY of the churches of God. These two are a big fat joke. Now more than ever. Ron would have made the dog a prophet if he could have gotten away with it. Keep it ALL in the family. I have come to the conclusion that however good intentioned people are , they’re really just stupid. How can you beat a dead horse for so long?

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Maybe Ron sold his $1700 suit for a short sleeve shirt? What ever happened to wearing the best you could afford before God?

  • Eric says:

    Here’s an interesting prophecy in his latest book “PROPHESY AGAINST THE NATIONS”

    From Chapter 7: Countdown to Christ’s Coming – Part 4 (of 4) “This specific book will be advertised and translated into more languages than before. This is for the purpose of seeking to reach out to millions more giving greater potential for many more people to be saved.”

    This book will have to be translated into at least 8 languages for this requirement to be met. Keep and eye out for this as a potential fail.

  • Eric says:

    Does the above quote also imply it will be advertised more than before or am I reading too much into it. Anybody good with grammar?

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    This asshole has nothing to do with Armstrong, after all his shit failed and everyone was leaving he is saying this is what Armstrong ‘ so he can keep the old timer’s paying tighted , no young kids asshole !

  • Randy Terlecki says:

    Ron said he was the great prophet and his family ,they where going to die in streets of Isreal , the world was going to end 5 times but now he goes back to Armstrong what up asshole ! Keep sending money folk LaurA needs gold and there kids need money

  • Fooled No More says:

    Randy, interesting enough………..of the ones that I’ve spoken to that have left PKG, a number of them mentioned that’s one thing that told them that Ron was false. The Bible in Revelation clearly states that the two witnesses die in Jerusalem. Ron literally changed the Bible and told everyone that’s not what that means. He’s already guilty of “adding to, or taking away” what’s in the scriptures.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Also, I gotta say…….things must be gettin’ desperate money wise in PKG land. In Ron’s sermon of this past week, he makes a reference to “work” and how one should be doing their “utmost” to doing their best in there job, or at least make an effort to find work or something to that effect. I didn’t copy and paste exactly what was said as I should——–I can only take and read so much and I’m ready to get away from there!

    You read through (speed reading is probably best), and you’ll see what I’m gettin’ at.

    I say BOO-HOO that the coffers are running dry! Looks like SOMEONE in that family is going to have to go out and get a real job sooner than later. You can only dupe so many people but for so long to keep yourself going!

  • Barry says:

    Surely this lying thieving false prophet has said something “so stupid” that it deserves a new thread to follow. The very nature of his thought process is so foul it shouldn’t be that hard to find. Let’s start a new thread open for future comment