PATN: Chapter 4 Part 3 The Deceptive Church

Since the Two Witnesses don’t want their message spread, I no longer will quote their posts on my website. But those who know where their website is can go there read them, then come back here to leave any comments. If you don’t want to visit his website, the excerpt is reposted on two different Facebook pages.

The latest excerpt of his third book focuses on the Catholic Church. He mentioned the reformation of the 1400-1600s. It seems the splinters had only slight doctrinal differences but had disagreement about which men were to govern it. Pretty much like the present day of Armstrongism.

Revelation 17 is mentioned, with the symbolism there interpreted to refer to the Catholic church and the various incarnations of the Roman empire, of which Hitler’s Germany was one. The Bible is a versatile book, being able to mean whatever you want it to mean. With a modest amount of effort, it could be made to point to other things. Like Armstrongism. For example, one could cherry pick from the various splinters of Armstrongism to be the 7 heads and 10 horns.

Weinland’s last paragraph of this excerpt accuses the Catholic Church of persecuting God’s true church, responsible for killing and imprisonment of God’s people. So I guess that somehow the IRS, the Justice Department, the Federal Court, and 12 jurors were just tools of the Catholic Church.


  • Acts says:

    Acts says:
    January 29, 2016 at 08:33
    Ronald Weinland is a False Prophet who’s is carrying on the false prophecy of Herbert W Armstrong . HWA was not a prophet or an Apostle , he was a marketing man who perverted the word of God a made a religion out of that perversion just like that big old chuch in Rome .

    HWA lived through Two World wars so it is no surprise much of his false prophecy is about a “European power” . He was presumptuous and he produced presumptuous people . A bad tree cannot produce good fruit .

    Let’s notice how confused Ronald is :”The seven heads are a reference to seven specific revivals of this kingdom, which has always been within Europe.” “One revival that most will be familiar with was under Napoleon. Another, and the most recent, was under Hitler when Germany was determined to establish a Third Reich. ” False Prophecy Ronald Weinland

    Now , what does the prophecy really say :Rev 17 The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sits. 10And there are seven kings: five are FALLEN, and ONE IS, and the other is not yet come

    Ron Says:”The “woman” is used to indicate a church”. ” It is the beginning of a description of the Roman Catholic Church.” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    The Catholic chuch has only been around for less than 2000 years . The woman is actually the personification of all false religion over 6 thousand years . Everything that is false from the beginning .

    At the time of writing the “ONE IS” is Rome . That should be powerfully and abundantly clear ! This is not opinion , it is historical FACT. Another Fact about this prophecy is that 5 kingdoms have fallen BEFORE the time of Writing.

    Ronald does not have Wisdom or Understanding. “The rise of Hitler during WWII was the sixth revival, and there is yet one more, which may have fully come together by the time you are reading this. This last revival will be from ten nations, which are represented by the ten horns”False prophet Ronald Weinland

    If I go forth into the field, then behold the slain with the sword! and if I enter into the city, then behold them that are sick with famine! yes, both the prophet and the priest go about into a land that they know not.

  • Acts says:

    “Since the Two Witnesses don’t want their message spread, I no longer will quote their posts on my website”

    I’m still laughing at that one ! 😀 That right Ron , step in and cover yourself with the dirt now.

  • Ronco says:

    Does anyone know where Ron delivers his live sermons these last few weeks?

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    How petty of them

  • Acts says:

    How long will people be led astray and taken advantage of by wolves like Ronald Weinland ?

    I wonder how much money has gone to these filthy dreamers ? If you took all the money from all the groups that came from HWA and made a pile , I wonder how much would be in that pile ? Why not just burn your money ? Don’t send it to Ron , bring it to your backyard and just burn it ! Hosea 4:6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.

    For those who enjoy history
    Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.”

  • Enough is Enough says:

    To bad for you two liars and false prophets (weinlands)!!! We are still here and will continue with our comments on your uneducated and sloppy writings!!!!!

    By the way, now you will be having false “hits” on your website and two phony facebook pages!!!! You have no “power” to stop us!!!! You lose you liar and thief!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Now that this false prophet weinland is moving into the prophesy section of his uneducated writings, I wonder if this false prophet weinland will venture into the “seven wonders” that never happened, as he predicted!!!! I wonder how this false prophet weinalnd will explain Rev 11!? This clown is wasting his idiotic time!! The major groups are way ahead of this false prophet weinland when it comes to public outreach. The former members of wcog will not have anything to do with this bald headed weasel. They are already know what he is – false!!

  • juror bags says:

    Ron and Laura have to get busy spinning more lies. WD-40 is costing them a fortune oiling those squeaky hinges on the old dusty Cincinnati, Ohio P.O. Box. Schmucks! Seems Ronnie Boy is a hopping and a jumping now that Laurdass is likely cracking the whip again. Have fun with that bitch, Ronnie!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Correction: “seven wonders” should read “seven thunders”

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    There are seven wonders. Seven wonders where the thunders are.

  • Acts says:

    Ron was never Catholic , he does not understand the mind of a Catholic . He thinks his False prophecy is going to Change people . He is a Man of sin standing in the Holy place ( in place of Christ) he is an idol and a False prophet .
    It is hard for people once they have been taught false timelines and preconceived notions on what “Witnesses are” and what “Tribulation” is to ever come out of that . You have to start over , on your own , Christ is at the door and if any man come to him he will open and dwell with you . You must first get far far away from people like Ronald Weinland. Therefore, “Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.”

    Ron Says: “In these verses that will be covered, and in others later that pertain to prophecy, I am going to give you the prophetic meaning as God’s Prophet.”
    And then he goes on to give a False Prophecy , a false prophecy he learned from his idol
    “God gave to His apostle, Herbert W. Armstrong, the understanding of these prophecies concerning the seven revivals of the Roman Empire and the meaning of those ten horns.” False Prophet Ronald
    NO , GOD most certainly did not give understand of those things to Herbert W Armstrong AT ALL! And you do not have understanding because of your idol ! And thousands do not have understanding because of both of you!

    Daniel showed the King what was what , head of Gold BABYLON , Breast and arms Silver PERSIA , belly and thighs of Bronze GREECE , legs of Iron ROME. Now Daniel showed this in the time of Babylon just as John wrote in the time of ROME. Now , let’s do some math because I know Ron went to school and loved math . God destroyed Egypt before this time period and there was a Kingdom before the Flood that Jesus Christ showed plainly for those with ears “For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.”

    1,Flood Kingdom(ONE World) 2, Egypt 3 , Babylon 4 ,Persia 5 , Greece *6 , ROME (*One is *of Revelation 17:10) ****7 ,10 horns in progress.

    Consider these things before you waste your time and money on Ronald Weinland , Ron is a False prophet and he even admits it

  • Randy says:

    Did I ever say how much I hate Ron and Laura , I hope they die tomorrow , all the life’s they reacket , they wished death on so many people, and children so people would think they are prophets , they are not shit no better than any other crook that came out of Fedral prison , money hugger people prove what you say asshole you can’t and haven’t been able to for 15 years you are a lier and false prophet
    How much are your suits now, and your bitches diamond rings !!

  • Excogger says:

    Interesting that no further trips are posted for / by Laura and the gang.

    Travel budget a bit tight, Laura??

    Maybe you’ll have to pawn a bit of your bling so the eager flock can enjoy your company…..while there is a flock, that is…

  • Enough is Enough says:

    I went on facebook and someone has setup a page that shreds this false prophet weinland. Just type in ron wienland in the search and it will pop up. NO FREE RIDE for this false prophet on facebook!!!!

    As I have stated, it will be this false prophet’s history and conviction for tax fraud that will do him in!!!!

  • Randy says:

    Hopefully the PO Box will be empty, no checks, it will be like Ols Miss Hubbert going to the cubbert to get her dog a bone ,but the Cubbert was bare !!!!!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    EIE, could you post a link to which one it is specifically? I went on Facebook and typed in Ron’s name, and I noticed a number of them that were not favorable to him. The dates they were created were from a few years ago though………..

    Guess I need to scroll down a bit more—–there’s a LOT there! 😮

    Randy, unfortunately, there will always be those that will stay and give money no matter what! Almost is if they feel it’s a “duty to God” to follow a prophet, nevermind the fact that he’s been flat out wrong about……………well EVERYTHING!

  • martin says:

    Let’s say you’re the parent of a son. You give the son an allowance. Let’s say you give him $100 a month (you’re generous).

    Later you find your son is using that money on illegal drugs. What do you think the parent should do? What do you think most parents would do?

    Most would put an end to the allowance. Even a dumb, deaf and blind parent, would understand to do that, yet these people in PKG can not figure it out to do that.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fooled No More:

    Actually those are the ones I saw. It was mostly about the 2012 failure. What is good is that they are visible and I am expecting to see the updating of those pages.

    Any exposure of this false prophet weinland on facebook is good!!! He put his face there and now there will be the response to it. Don’t worry, he will not get a free ride on facebook.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Oh OK………….yeah he was really being SKEWERED on there! As well he should be! Chalk up another reason why his book will be a total failure!

    There will be too many people that can see what frauds he and his wife are, and will not fall for any of the BS that he puts forth.

    Now if only the majority in PKG would recognize that fact!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Fooled No More:

    I have faith in the words of Gamaliel (Acts 5:33-37).

    When this pile of rectal waste (weinland) finally take his last breath this “thing” called pkg will end! This is a one man show and there is no one else able to carry it on. His offspring does not have the evil skill to lie and steal as their father weinland does. Yes, they have benefited but they are on the level of a parasite that needs a host like their father weinland to live off of. Momma weinland is an infertile leach herself and has not be able to pass on the genetics of a crafty lying cheat like her husband weinland. The both of them are a disease that is coming to its end!!

  • martin says:

    I think the day will come when Ron knows he will have to run for cover.

    Ron knows he’s false, he’s just playing the game for money. He’s a greedy man.

  • martin says:

    All false prophets will be dealt with, some early and some late.

    During the beginning of the Millenium (if you believe in the bible), all remaining false prophets will be taken by angels and thrown into a lake of fire.

    (this prophecy is in the NT)

  • OK, everybody — a quick review (we should do this from time to time):

    Ronald Weinland travelled to Jerusalem on April 17, 2008. He announced that he and his wife were the two witnesses of Revelation.

    Weinland’s book: If it doesn’t come to pass…starting in April, then I’m nothing but a false prophet…(Ronald Weinland, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, Church of God)

    There’s already been six seals opened up…and the world is ignorant of it…The seventh seal they will know though… (Ronald Weinland, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, Church of God)

    The destruction of the United States, we are the first to suffer…I wouldn’t want to be in Chicago, Los Angeles, or New York… (Ronald Weinland, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, Church of God)

    By the fall of 2011, that’s when Jesus Christ returns… (Ronald Weinland, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, Church of God) (Ronald Weinland, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, Church of God)

    A little after April…a dollar bill won’t be worth anything…We’re going to be brought down the tubes, very quickly, starting in April…What happens when a nuclear weapon goes off in New York and Chicago?… (Ronald Weinland, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, Church of God)

    If we come to the point in time where what I’ve said doesn’t come to pass, the reality is that I’m just a false prophet. That’s the bottom line… The reality is if it doesn’t happen, then you’re just false…I’ll acknowledge my error, my wrong, if I’m wrong… (Ronald Weinland, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, Church of God)

    By January 2009, we (the United States) will be down the tubes… (Ronald Weinland, 2008 – God’s Final Witness, Church of God)



  • But wait!

    The Final Witness was in 2008!

    What’s with a third book?

    How many FINAL witness events is going to be? 7? 7 final witness?

    It’s a perfect number.

    Expect 4 more books.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Armstrongism has preserved a state of being on an “event horizon” for the entire history of the movement. The members know no other state of existence. When you become a member, that becomes your perpetual state of existence until there is fulfillment. Once the brainwashing has been effective in that area, it would require extreme leverage to break away. There are certain people whom it would never bother that the outrageous and repetitive failures continue, so long as the event horizon state of mind is preserved. It becomes like a surge of adrenaline for an adrenaline junkie, a Linus blanket for the soul. The leaders know this and do everything possible, even if itnis totally irrational, just to preserve it. That is the danger of false teachers and false prophets. It is the perfect setup for exploitation. HWA set up the perfect false interpretation of Revelation to accomplish this state of mind and to exploit those who would find him credible. Even 100% failure does not cause certain ones to reject the obvious and to seek more viable solutions.


  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Weinland’s brother-in-law played this song in this style one year in Ron’s hotel room in Hawaii after the feast one year. Since then, he’s left PKG.

  • Enough is Enough says:


    I hope not!! I am looking forward to the time when this rectal debris is returned to the earth by means of worms and flesh eating bugs! This false prophet weinland has heart issues and the clock is ticking on his end of life.

    Under normal circumstances, I do not wish death on anyone, unlike this false prophet weinland, but this false prophet is detestable and wicked to the point that he could care less about the harm he has caused people. And yet, this soulless slime continues on with his pursue of his own interest at others expense!! To clarify, I am not wishing death on this rectal debris but I look forward to his natural end of life – the sooner the better!!

    I like your format and it is legal and I would like to see more of it.

  • Enough is Enough, hope to see you at the book burning!

    Hopefully, Weinland will be there for a book signing just before we burn them!

  • Enough is Enough says:


    What the date!? That would be one gigantic orgasmic event!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough, yes, well, unfortunately it may be the Lake of Fire.

    Or just before some Holyday.

  • martin says:

    Didn’t Ronald Weinland say that he and the lazy gossiping wife would be given power to correct the nations???????????

    What happened with that?

  • Excogger says:

    Mr Weinland (Whine-land?) is about to correct the nations by the serial publication of his new, “viral” Book.

    The Book is viral because it infects the minds of the readers with its noxious contents.

    Thankfully the world at large is completely unaware of Ron Weinland and his evil, greedy family.

  • Acts says:

    “the prophetic outcome for many nations has also been changed. This includes Switzerland, which will now suffer far more mightily in this final end-time period, and will not be a safe haven for any finances in the world.” FPRW


  • Ronco says:

    “This includes Switzerland, which will now suffer far more mightily in this final end-time period, and will not be a safe haven for any finances in the world.”

    I suppose that’s appropriate, since it hasn’t proved to be a safe haven for a certain income tax evader…

  • Ronco says:

    Hi Laura!

  • Acts says:

    Poor Switzerland . Amazing !

  • Acts says:

    New Bull$hit up, same as the old Bull$hit.

  • Randy says:

    Ron ( the asshole and the Gossipping Queen ) are crooks !!!!!!!

  • Excogger says:

    Incomprehensible drivel…….

    Get a real job, Ron, or retire from the religion business!

  • Ronco says:

    Hi Wayne!!!

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    This site really is pychlogically taking it’s toll on the weinlands that’s a fact I give Ron till June of next year 90% of pkg will be gone .

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Swooncologne, are you in contact with any current members?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Swooncologne26: I agree – for each second, minute, hour, day, and month that goes by it will condemn this false prophet weinland for what he is – a phony!!!!

    Mike: the ones I know are very quite for the moment. I do know that a fast was done yesterday but I don’t know the reason for it. I am suspicious that something is going on. We will see.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    As I see it. This false prophet weinland has made two troubling mistakes: 1) the attack on this site, which, will only draw more attention because of this action he has taken. Also, this false prophet weinland has now reduced his exposure to promote himself. 2) the FaceBook presence has failed and will draw out other critics he has on social media, in other word, he has now stirred upped a greater audience that will oppose him.

    His uneducated book is failing and will continue to fail. This false prophet has proven that he IS NOT sanctioned by God to do His Work because of all the predictions (3 failures) of Christ’s return, the failed empowerment as one of the two witnesses of Rev 11 that failed on Nov 8, 2015, and imprisonment for tax fraud. This false prophet weinland has created his own history and now it is haunting him!!!

  • Acts says:

    This is not 2006 , This is 2016 ! It is a joke that Ron is writing another book . Ronald is a world renown FALSE PROPHET .

    2008 GFW was a False Prophecy . Everything Ron said will happen in the time he said it will happen did NOT happen .

    Ron said Christ would return in May 2012 , DID NOT COME TO PASS . Then he said 2013 , DID NOT COME TO PASS , but Ronald went to Jail .)

    It has been nothing but bad news for the Weinland clan since 2012 and it will not be getting better for False Prophet Ronald . If people still think he and his Insufferable wife are going to sail away to Europe and live happily ever after , you have not been paying close attention . Deuteronomy 28:45)

  • Acts says:

    Can’t wait untill Chapter 6 though . Im sure it will be Amazing and Awesome and Marvelous )

  • Randy says:

    I think something up to!!!!!

  • Randy says:

    I was just thinking maybe the have to have all fines and penalties payed before Feb 17 and pkg members are drained of cash and it cuttin in on the money whores life style!! I hope

  • martin says:

    “This site really is pychlogically taking it’s toll on the weinlands that’s a fact I give Ron till June of next year 90% of pkg will be gone ”

    Why would anybody wait till next year? Ron is a fraud, the sad thing is that Ron KNOWS he’s a fraud but PKGers can’t figure this out.

  • martin says:

    Ron and Laura were afraid enough of this site to threaten legal action.

    They won’t press it, because they can’t afford more legal fees, nor can they afford to draw attention to this site (perhaps the fast was to pray to have this site shut down? It’s not going to happen. God doesn’t support false prophets).

    To press any legal action would bring the legal “eye” upon them. Since evil people do not like the light of justice shining on them as it will expose their evil, they will not press the matter.

  • martin says:

    I do hope somebody finds more information about this fast, it would be interesting to find the reason for it.

    WHY SHOULD ANY PKGER FAST???????????????

    Does the bible say this should be done for the TW’s?????? OF COURSE NOT.

    The TW’s are to take action THEMSELVES. Not call for some fast to get things done.

    So sad. So useless. So vain. The true TW’s would not engage in such moronic activity, they would deal with it personally.

  • Randy says:

    If God is giving Ron info and talking to him ,they shouldn’t have to worry about Websites and law suits God would be there to take of things !!!!!!!

  • Excogger says:

    Perhaps Ron is not well.

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    Mike, I spoke to one member briefly but it was small talk she is commited to pkg sadly ,she is a very sweet girl it was just a observation. If the weinlands were not in any way threatned by a blog why would they make a complaint all their information is public “hopefully”by june there will not be any pkg left his whole family should serve jail time there has to be some loophole legally I wanna see this site be the number one search for the false prophet but Idk how any one could stay another minute also Martin.

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    Tax season is gonna be sweet this year at least for me not sure about the weinlands :\

  • Fooled No More says:

    Swooncologne, you and I know a lot of the same people in PKG, and all we can do is shake our heads as to why they remain after all this time. As far as I know, I’m the latest one who’s left that particular circle of PKG, unless someone else has and we just don’t know about it yet.

    EIE, as far as the fasting is concerned, it could very well have been done because things “aren’t progressing” as well as Ron would like. He called for something similar to this back around this time of in ’09, and I distinctly remember it because I had just started going to services in December ’08.

    IIRC, it was a TWO DAY FAST which was supposed to hasten the end time destruction to bring “people into humility”. Well hold the phone, because I guess God wasn’t listening back then (of course not!), and Ron’s trying reeeeealll hard yet again!

    He always seems to do this around Super Bowl weekend………..don’t know if this was a two day fast yet again or not.

    If you’d like to hear the original sermon when this was taking place, (I couldn’t stand to listen to no more than a few seconds), you can go here.

    We may in time get the full scoop on what the buzz was concerning this latest “fast”, but I don’t think I’m far off the mark.

    We’ll see…………

  • Randy says:

    Wow mom never fasted I’m surprised !

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Weinland didn’t mention it during today’s sermon. Wonder if there was a church-wide fast.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Mike, it sounded as if today’s sermon may have been a repeat? Just the things he mentioned sounded like the one you had posted a while back. I could be wrong though and they’re not that far away from their main meeting hotel in Cincy.

    On the other hand, they’re very clever at sending out emails to Elders and then having them parrot whatever he wants them to say. It could have been done this way, but what about those that don’t have email??

    Randy, your mom may have never fasted because healthwise, it may not of been wise for her to do so. Ron has mentioned in the past that those that suffer from certain health troubles should not be fasting……….no one’s to put their health at risk over a fast.

    At least he’s gone that far at not wanting folks to hurt themselves physically “for God”.

  • martin says:

    Ron the thief said it’s not about doing things right away……

    What kind of moronic statement is that? Not right away????????? The mind dazzles at such a moronic stance.

    The reason for saying this, is of course, Ron knows 100% that he is completely false, and doesn’t want to do anything right away because he can’t, because he’s false, and has no power, nor will be given any power.

    Ron waffled all over the place, things could happen in the last 6 months, in the last week, maybe AFTER the Tribulation is over and during the so called 50 days (never mind that the bible says Christ returns on the last day of the 1260 days). So not only is Ron going to be “late” doing anything, he has CHRIST HIMSELF being lax about His duty which is returning on the last day of the 1260 days.


  • Enough is Enough says:


    This false prophet weinland is in trouble and he knows it!!! Nothing is happening and he has to lie lie lie!!!!!

  • Acts says:

    Nothing he says will ever happen ! Look at what Christ said .

    For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And when you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, be you not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.

    2008 GFW
    “The prophecies revealed in this book explain the demise of the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain, and much of western Europe, which will be followed by man’s final world war” False Prophecy RW

    That book did not go very well did it ? RUMORS of war from a False Prophet ! that should have been the title .

    Is Ronald the only one talking about WW3 ? Nope , thousands of False prophets have been talking about WW3 since WW2 ended .

    Ronald is not doing the will of God but he is serving himself ! ANOTHER BOOK ? Why ? Because you had to madly change everything !
    Because God showed you this and you just didn’t understand at the time and BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH puke, throwup VOMIT FILTHY VOMIT !

    It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

  • Acts says:

    Now it’s , Prophesy Against the Nations while on house arrest in an ankle bracelet , if my parole officer says it is ok?

    And look out Switzerland ! You will suffer Far More “Mightily” LMAO !

    Ron , it is Awesome !

    I am the LORD that makes all things; that stretches forth the heavens alone; that spreads abroad the earth by myself;

    who foils the signs of false prophets
    and makes fools of diviners,
    who overthrows the learning of the wise
    and turns it into nonsense

  • Enough is Enough says:

    It is time to account false prophet weinland. Your lies and misrepresentations are now coming to light and you have to answer for it!!!

    Your time is past and now you have a history or “fruit” that clearly defines you!! Your are a phony deceiving selfish individual and now “your” fouls (chickens) have arrived (come home) and they stink all the way to the heavens above!!!!

  • I just skimmed through Chapter 4, Part 4, and goodness! It’s like some sort of verbal written selfie!

    In the middle of it, he referred to “the bottomless pit” which is a pretty good description of his writing.

    The one redeeming quality it had was that it mentioned Hitler.

    And as we know, he’s a lot like Hitler (feel free to share your views on the truth of that).

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Let’s take a look at this false prophet weinland from this point of view:

    1) this false prophet was sentenced for tax fraud and is still serving time and will serve a period of probation for approximately for the next three years. This false prophet weinland has failed to see and understand that God was giving him a warning (imprisonment) to cease and desist from his merchandising of God’s name and for his selfish pursuit of ill-begotten wealth.

    Comment: since this false prophet weinland has chosen to ignore the warning and is now experiencing failure after failure and the failure of his current writing to attract new members to gain money from. Not to mention, there are problems within his own organization and this is due to his failure of predictions and continuing lies. This will only get worst as time goes on for this false prophet weinland.

    2) as demonstrated by examples in the Bible, if this false prophet weinland continues to ignore the warning it will invite an even greater punishment or even death. The words of Gamaliel (acts 5) and Deut 18:22 mean exactly what they say!!!!

    False prophet weinland your arrogance and disrespect for God will be your deserved end!

  • bilbo says:

    Thanks for quoting that Ronco:

    > “This includes Switzerland, which will now suffer far more mightily in this final end-time period, and will not be a safe haven for any finances in the world.”

    Poor baby just seeking satisfaction for his felony imprisonment for willful tax evasion. Just bitter that hoarding his ill gotten gains in Switzerland didn’t work out. Trying to feel better by pretending he’s more powerful than he really is.

    His detractors will die, all 7000 of them (is there that many people that even heard of Ron), Switzerland will be punished so Ron can have satisfaction, the USA will be destroyed so Ron can have satisfaction … YEAH SURE WHATEVER. Megalomaniacal narcissistic self aggrandizing profiteering soothsayer. Simon the Sorcerer, that one.

  • Enough is Enough says:


    Yes, this false prophet weinland is a selfish immature whiny baby. No tribulation, no 63,000, failed death curses, failed predictions of Christ’s return, and no empowerment from God on 11/8/15 to be anointed as one of the two witnesses of Rev 11!!!

    So very very sad for this “king” of fools!!!!

  • martin says:

    (Chapter 4: An End to Deception – Part 4 of 5)
    Ronald the false prophet Weinland said ” In that specific account, smoke begins to ascend out of the pit at a time when a spiritual phase of the Fifth Trumpet was being fulfilled (Rev. 9:1-3). That phase was fulfilled and was about persecution that Satan was allowed to exert upon God’s Church. That period is now past,….”

    This torment is ONLY ALLOWED upon the UNsealed (verse Rev 9:4).

    Ron says this torment was upon those in the PKG. Thus Ronald Weinland is saying that those in PKG are UNsealed.

    A person that is sealed is a person with the Holy Spirit.(Eph 1:13)

    An unsealed person is a person without the Holy Spirit.

    Thus by Rons own mouth, all in PKG are unsealed, and without the Holy Spirit and thus are not Christ’s and not Christians.

  • Excogger says:

    Martin, logic and facts are the deadly enemies of Armstrongism. How dare you use them to expose the lies and confusion of our highly esteemed peddler of fear and deception. Shame on you.
    The PKG membership KNOW and SEE that Ron is NEVER wrong, even when he frequently contradicts himself. Just like the god between his earlugs.

  • hawkeye says:

    everybody should send weinland a check for ONE CENT …it would be cost prohibitive for the bank to process those …then DEMAND end of year tax reciept for tax purpose would cost em more just for postage ///just an idea …it doesnt matter if they cash it or not ,,,just think of the lawsuit if they didnt

  • Randy says:

    I got a feeling there waiting for the asshole to get out of Fedral Prison on probation and they are all going to meet in Cinn. Ohio to kiss his ass and make his head swell up Bigger than ever like Christ just returned ! Lol

  • Perhaps the Catholic Church should perform an inquisition on Ronald Weinland.

  • Swooncologne26 says:

    Its crazy Ron is reading everybodys comments on this site everyday of the week, twice on Saturdays!! I just hope the kids don’t have to see Ron in Cincy Randy.Any guy who can look in their eyes and not feel a damn thing about knowily taking advantage of their parents or grandparents scripture says. “It would be best for that person to be thrown into the sea with a large stone hung around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to lose faith” Luke17:2 its obvious the man is making up for some shortcoming bad husband,bad father? No idea what I do know is he has failed and that is his legacy let’s hope someone in the Weinland family tree can redeem the name.

  • Enough is Enough says:


    This false prophet weinland is still wishing and hoping that this site would disappear because of all the “provable” information that is here. He is such an idiot because the notification will only direct others to this site. He really is stupid and everyone knows it but him!!

    This false prophet weinland is focused on “making a living” and will say anything to keep and attract members and these members are nothing more than “profit centers” to this rectal debrie. But it won’t last and its end is coming ~ by the words of Gamaliel of Acts 5.

    False prophet weinland if you are reading this, you are a stupid arrogance individual who’s time has come and gone. Your lies lies and more lies are finally catching up to you!!!!

  • Randy says:

    Did I ever say how much I hate this lying ,stealing and corrupt asshole, and his money whore wife !!!!! The Weindlands family Mafia !
    Nothing he ever said that God told him Ever happen
    He has been in Fedral prison for nt pay taxes on money he took from pkg
    $1700 suit
    4 million of church money on family and personal use
    23,000 Dimound rings
    His books are fiction
    His wife is the biggest Gossipper in world
    So much more what an asshole

  • Randy says:

    God don’t need money only man does and God tells you follow no man !!!

  • At some point, don’t you suppose that Laura will be changed and Ron will never have to buy salt again?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Well let’s see what God’s Word has to say about you false prophet weinland:

    Proverbs 22:1 A good name is more desirable than great riches, and loving favor is better than silver and gold.

    Comment: You no longer have a good name false prophet weinland. You are a felon who was convicted of stealing taxable income from the government. Plus, you were sentence for three plus years for your crime. You are also known as a liar and a cheat.

    Well that pretty much takes care of the “good name” doesn’t it!!

    Romans 2:21 You therefore who teach another, don’t you teach yourself? You who preach that a man shouldn’t steal, do you steal?

    Comment: Well well well what do we have here!? You teach that it is a sin to steal from God and man, but yet, you have stolen from God and the government!! What a hypocrite you are false prophet weinland!!!

    That’s what you are – a lying stealing hypocrite!!!!!!!!

  • Excogger says:

    Part 5 of chapter 5 is up. Enjoy.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Part 5 is a continuation of the nonsense of the beast power = United States of Europe influenced by Pope. And a repetition of his earlier conjecture that they will interpret the returning Jesus Christ to be aliens arriving in UFOs. Nothing new that I noticed.

  • Excogger says:

    Of course, you are quite right, Mike!
    Weinland is just a chip off the old Herbert block. His brain is addled by all sorts of confusing and confused conjectures. He can prove NOTHING he claims. He is just another hawker of religion based on fear and fantasy.
    In my view he is behaving like a self-serving, self-righteous modern-day pharisee who demands absolute obedience to and complete acceptance of everything he says or writes. And his followers love to have it so.

  • Acts says:

    “God does not always just reveal something to me immediately, but instead, he does so over a period of time, and the Church has come to understand this as “progressive revelation.

    There will be a chapter dedicated to the timing of end-time events, and more will be covered in that chapter regarding things that have been addressed here as well. It is likely that by the time that chapter is written God will have revealed more, as this has been my experience over the years in how God works with me. “False Prophet Ronald Weinland

  • Acts says:

    2008 God’s Final Witness
    “As the spokesman of God’s two end-time witnesses and as His end-time prophet, I have fulfilled my responsibility in placing the contents of this book before you. What you do with it is up to you. Indeed, only a very short time remains before it will be evident that I am who I say or that I am not. In the past 1900 years, have you ever read or heard of a publication from any religious leader who has made such claims, laying out such a precise pattern for the near future with such precise timelines? You have not! This is the evidence (witness, testimony) of the true God of Abraham!”

    Deuteronomy 18:22
    You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’ 22″When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Didn’t this false prophet weinland claim that he received “direct” revelation from God on the last three failed predictions of Christ’s return!? So now this excused by “progressive revelation”!!

    How idiotic is this crap!!!!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    It’s the Present Truth (TM), don’t ya know.

  • Acts says:

    By “progressive revelation” Ron means , he says something and when it does not happen it is Revealed that the timing has Madly Changed . The Change is the new revelation , once the change has come it has been revealed and Blah Blah Blah

    Capiche ?

  • Fooled No More says:

    Re: “Present Truth”

    Translation: Gotta keep the bank account in the green dontcha know! 😉

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Got It!!! So now this false prophet weinland is setting up the “new lie” because he knows that 2019 is “bogus”!!!!

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    A soap opera is more believable then this stuff is.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Yeah, some of this stuff you can’t make up. Such as Weinland shipping a Beemer from Germany to the US in one year, and then the next year shipping a BMW from the US to Germany, because I guess they don’t sell BMWs in Germany.

  • Fooled No More says:

    Mike, probably the same Beemers I saw parked in their garage when I was at their home in 2012. They were both exact matches of each other (externally), so I guess they couldn’t get both of them to match here in the US.? 😆

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    No, I don’t think you were seeing the Beemer shipped to Germany for Jeremy to drive. Rather, it was probably Ron & Laura’s Beemer and Audra’s Beemer that you saw. In 2007 Ron bought 3 Beemers, and then told his members to send in their 2nd tithe because there wouldn’t be a feast in 2008.

    Ron and Laura’s Beemer was bought in Germany and shipped to the US, and they went to the factory in Germany for a product orientation. The two Beemers for his prophet daughter and evangelist son were bought at a dealer in the Cinci area.

  • Randy says:

    The present lie, so these assholes can keep cash flow for Weindland family Mafia , I like I said hope him and his Gossipper wife get in a car accident and die ! Did I ever say I hate these assholes bet you couldn’t tell ! Any body like them who wishes death on people need to die them self !

  • Ozymandias says:

    Ron and Laura always purchased everything they wanted no matter the timeline of Christ’s return. It’s almost like they didn’t really expect him to return. Jewelry, clothes, furniture, cars, a hot tub, new fireplace for his office, etc. all while preaching we had only months to go.Guilting people into sending in every penny cause we weren’t going to need it during the millennium .She bought a new leather massage chair months before the supposed return of Christ, and gave her old on to the Harrels. I used to wonder if the church or Ron paid for all of it. When they put in the fireplace in the office the chimney cost about 10,000 dollars, because it had to be built from the basement to the roof. Personally , I never care what people own or how much they have, but all of these greedy ministers have done it on the neck of gullible people. Shame on us, and shame on them.

  • bilbo says:

    Here’s Ron in his BMW, pulled by PKG members, chasing his prophecies – er – carrots.


  • Randy says:

    I didn’t know all of that thanks for posting , what a bunch of aregant crooks people in the church gave all and know they have nothing and the asshole and his Gossipper wife are asking for more

  • Ozymandias says:

    The problem is that there are people who really went broke trying to buy items to save themselves. Lots of food, water, and equipment, that later had to be sold or thrown away. People bought 2000 dollar generators, had their home refitted for propane etc. Sad, cause while Ron used other people’s money, some people used all they had left. Some cashed their 401s out and spent the money on things they will never use. Not everyone lost everything, but some really came close. A few quit their jobs. I know it sounds foolish, but people REALLY believed him. I don’t know why they stay at this point. He has said over and over that he’s a false prophet. He wrote it in his own book, and now try’s desperately to take it back or change what he said. He PROPHESIED that he would be a FALSE prophet if everything didn’t happen just as he said. Now , of course, he will worm his way out of his own prophesies if he can. He had many sermons on full commitment to ask people to see if they were FULLY committed to believing Christ was on his way. I just don’t believe Ron himself was committed at all. His home is intact. His cars, and all of his possessions are intact. The members are the ones that sacrificed, some more than others. The poorer ones tried to keep up with the more fortunate in buying to save themselves and it certainly worked against them. By the way , Ron had zero sympathy for anyone who lost homes , jobs , or retirement. He was too busy hiring expensive lawyers to save his sorry ass.

  • Randy says:

    Well said Ozy !!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:


    That is what this false prophet weinland is all about – making a living off of others income – he is a sorry lowly no good bastard!!!

  • Fooled No More says:

    Hmmmm………………Ozy, what you mentioned I experienced first hand! As someone who was not making a ton of money as others may have been, I spent quite a few bucks on “survival food” which in fact is still sitting in my basement. Just recently, I opened up a can of beans that’s been there since 2012, and surprisingly enough, they were still good. The other stuff, I’m not so sure about and I may end up tossing it.

    I know of definite severe financial hardships that people endured, and I know of someone personally that not only quit their job, but also cashed out their 401k——-only to realize that yup…………they gotta go back to work. This is not an old person by any means as they’re slightly younger than me (in their early 50’s), so they may not ever recoup all that money that was lost for foolishness. I myself had left a job believing that Christ was returning that May 27th, only to thankfully be able to find something else in my field, and be hired. A little less pay than before, but at least I’m fully employed, and able to keep things afloat ESPECIALLY since I’m no longer sending money to those two charlatans!

    I remember getting a quite angry letter from someone who’s actually still with PKG, about Ron kinda laughing and joking about the difficulties people were having. This would have been a couple Saturday’s after May 27th as I still have the email from this individual. It’s not in the audio (I checked), but in the PDF file which can be seen here, Ron makes mention about once again everybody making plans for the upcoming Feast. I know of a particular young couple who was sitting near me when Ron mentioned about the Feast in that sermon and were absolutely FLOORED about it as they literally spent EVERYTHING they had in “gearing up” for May 27th. Interesting that it’s not in the audio portion——–I’m sure a lot of stuff that I know I heard firsthand (and may be on my hard disc as I originally saved it), somehow has been “zapped” from the audio that remains on their site. 😉

    When things didn’t pan out on May 27th, it put a severe strain on this young couple’s relationship, and the husband ended up being disfellowshipped. Why you ask?? Because when he had to ask for assistance to get to the Feast, and they had found out he ended up using the money to put food in the house, the powers that be didn’t like that, so they put him out. I look at it now as at least he got $500 out of ’em!

    I have to wonder in some of those letters that were written to Ron after May 27th, are those same people in PKG still? Remember, this was before the trial occurred and I have to wonder if at least some of them were outright disgusted after all that was brought out. That’s if they had the guts to check things out in the first place. I was one that didn’t do that unfortunately, and it would take a bit till my eyes were opened and I knew it was time to get out.

    It’s coming up on a year for me next month on the 8th since I left PKG, and I can tell you that things have never been better! More money in my pocket, more peace of mind not waiting for the next bomb to explode, and certainly knowing with full knowledge what outright frauds Ron and Laura Weinland truly are.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Ron always acted like people believed Christ was returning. They believed RON. He would have the guts to say ‘ well, you believed it too!’ He would act like we were all in this together , and this was not HIS mistake but rather OUR mistake. He could feel better about himself if he blamed all of us. When he receives the prophecy its God and Ron, when he’s wrong , it’s Ron and us. Funny that. Ron can certainly recoup any losses he may have had, and I seriously doubt there were many. Most came from his having to pay expensive trial lawyers. Sorry to say it, because at one time I did have respect for him, but he’s just a charlatan as someone said. Greedy , selfish, and entitled. It was always there, you just had to let yourself see it. Looking back, there were so many times when he seemed so callous in a sermon. Not a lot of love for anyone but his own family. Some people will see him clearly one of these days, but others will go to their grave wearing Ron goggles. Sometimes a lie is easier to swallow than the truth.

  • Randy says:

    Ron Weinland, the asshole ,little weasel, FELONE , prolroley , thief , false prophet, and lier
    Laura Weinland, thief, gossiper, money whore , and lier !!
    Facts Jack

  • Acts says:

    June 15 2012
    “As God’s Church looked for the return of Jesus Christ to occur on May 27, we did so to the very end of May 26. As that weekly Sabbath drew on, God began to reveal to me that there was more to the meaning of this final day to which we had finally arrived. This literal day was the beginning of a final prophetic day.
    Yes, the “Day of the Lord” is a year in actual length. May 27, 2012, was the beginning of the “Day of the Lord” when Jesus Christ will return on the final day of Pentecost 2013.” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    ‘But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Isn’t it the false prophetess laura’s birthday tomorrow? I believe it was on the latest “failed” timeline and it is also false prophet weinland release day only to begin the probationary phase of it.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    On Wed. Which is the Spokesman Witness’s release date from prison.

  • Once an Elder says:


    It is a miracle in itself to see the weinlands for what they really are once you remove them from your life. I still ask myself how did I ever allow myself to be taken in by these two cons?

    I still see that weinland is now attempting to do it all over again. Personally, I don’t think it will work this time. It is still the same old line and the attempt to attract former members of wcog. It isn’t going to happen. They don’t buy into his off the wall theology. Weinland will never be on the same level as the three major groups. Weinland does not have the financial means or outreach that the three major groups have. It is a pipe dream of weinland to be on their level.

    I associate myself with United because it is not run by an individual that demands to be worshiped as some anointed personage. I do have discussions with others about weinland and it is all the same answer – he is considered a joke a lunatic and someone to avoid at all cost! I enjoy my association with United because I am in control and I do not have some delusional freak telling me what I should do and what I should not do! The very idea of allowing someone like weinland to take control of my life causes me to throw up in my mouth!

    The weinlands disgust me and I look forward to their demise and I believe it is coming soon.

  • Ronco says:

    Less than 2 days…

  • martin says:

    Didn’t one of Ron’s acolytes say that Ron will be imbued with his witness powers when out of jail?

    If so, why couldn’t he use his witness powers to get out of jail?

  • Enough is Enough says:


    You may be right on that one. Just more of the same old wishing & hoping. Just more of the same old lies lies and more lies!!!

  • Ronco says:

    Only one more night…

  • Randy says:

    PKG please send your money to poor Weindlands family Mafia , they need a new BMW , and the Asshole going to need more $1,700 suits and the money whore will need more Diomounds, please give tell it hurts, poor Ron !!!!!

  • Ronco says:

    Ron will be given a new suit of clothes when he gets out of the pokey.

  • Randy says:

    And bus fare Ronco ! Hahahahahaha 🙂

  • Enough is Enough says:

    OK Martin:

    Where are they!!?? These two phonies are just that “phony”!!! No empowerment, no 63,000, no global announcement of who they think they are!!!!!!!

    What a pathetic joke these two are!!

    Open your eyes pkg and see these two festering maggots for what they are!!!!!