RRM Cincinnati

RRM_CincinnatiWithin the last few days, False Prophet Ronald Weinland has been transferred from the Terre Haute FCI to the Cincinnati RRM.  Here is the address:

RRM Cincinnati
RESIDENTIAL REENTRY OFFICE
36 E. 7TH ST., SUITE 2107-A
CINCINNATI, OH  45202

This type of office manages inmates either at a Residential Reentry Center or on home confinement.   I expect that Ron is now wearing a GPS ankle bracelet in his home next to the golf course, and will be prophesying and confronting world leaders from his basement until his release in February.

ETA: The following comment was left by “Hank”, appears to be an internal PKG communication but I am not able to verify its authenticity.  It does seem genuine, so I am including it in this post:

This is to inform everyone that Ron has been released early, as of Tuesday the 15th, and he will be staying in what is called a “halfway house” in the Cincinnati area. We are not sure how long he will have to be there before being sent home to “home confinement.” This halfway house is only about a 15 to 20 minute drive from the house and it will save Laura about a three hour drive (one way) that she had been used to making. Hopefully it won’t be too long before he will be given the ability during the day to at least work from home (Church offices) in order to once again begin working on sermons, preparing the book for publication and distribution, etcetera.

After a time, even if it takes a couple of months, he will be under “home confinement” in order to finish the 42-month sentence which will end in August. Until then, he does not believe that he will be able to travel to any other area, and even after it may be very limited for a time. We will just have to wait and see. The bottom line is that it is all a matter of God’s timing and where He intends that Ron should be, even if it is right here in the Cincinnati area for the next few years.

As a result of being released early, we have cancelled the Missouri visit and Laura, along with Johnny and Myrtle will be in Cincinnati on that Saturday, December 26th. Ron will not be allowed to attend services this Saturday, but we are hopeful that he may be allowed to attend the following week, although this also may not be a possibility so please keep this in your prayers.

I will add that characterizing Ron as “released” is inaccurate. He is still within Bureau of Prisons custody, only transferred to a different facility. And when in home confinement, he would still not be released from BoP custody.

81 Comments

  • Acts says:

    “In” the Final Three & One-Half Years
    March 6 2009
    “As regular readers/listeners are aware, on December 14, 2008, the world entered the final 3 1/2 years spoken of throughout prophecy as the end-time of man’s rule on earth.
    The reality is that the Seventh Seal of Revelation was opened on November 14, 2008, and then 30 days later the First Trumpet sounded

    On Pentecost of 2012, the world will experience a final transition from mankind ruling himself to that of God’s government ruling over all nations.” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    Deuteronomy 18
    But the prophet, who shall *presume* to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
    When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it *presumptuously*

  • Excogger says:

    Ron, so glad you will be home with your family and worshippers for Christmas/Saturnalia! I suppose the kids will be jetting in soon. My advice would be for you to get a new, non-religious part time job and NEVER utter nor write another word on anything spiritual or prophetic for the rest of your life. Just enjoy retirement and your family and friends.

  • Randy says:

    Good may be he can blog on here with use , not! I hope the bastard has a massive heart attack and kills over !!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    well well well – now it begins!! Go for it false prophet weinland because the real entertainment begins the moment you open your mouth!!!

  • Acts says:

    April 29 2012
    “A fast approaching fixed date of May 27th for Christ’s return does not seem reasonable to people. It just does not seem right. Throughout time, those things that God has given to people in the form of prophecy and instruction just do not seem right to mankind. Human nature has always resisted the true ways of God.
    God’s timing is based on the day He has set for the return of His Son as world ruler. God will allow mankind to begin his final war, but He will also quickly stop it
    He will cut short the war that man begins, and He will do so on May 27th, which is also the day Jesus Christ returns” False Prophet RW

    May 26 2012
    “The term “present truth” has come to mean much to God’s Church over the past few years, and it is possibly going to mean more to us now.FPRW https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NzSO2IOjmu0

    7You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that takes his name in vain.

  • Acts says:

    May 30 2012
    “May 27th has come and gone, so how can I say this is still the day of Christ’s return? The answer is a matter of God’s revelation which is spiritual in nature, but having a definite physical outcome.
    Then how is it that one can say May 27th is the “day” of His coming and still be true? The answer is exciting and inspiring to those who believe God, and it is nonsense to those who do not believe God. It is just that simple!
    God’s Day
    Now it is God’s turn—Gods “time”—to deal with a disbelieving world! God’s day has come and it is the day of Christ’s coming.

    This “Day of the Lord” is a prophetic day that has a duration of a full year in its fulfillment. It began on Pentecost of 2012 and it will end on Pentecost of 2013. God has revealed that May 27, 2012 was the “prophetic day” for the return of His Son as King of kings. It will take one year to become fulfilled.
    God’s final day has now begun!” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    Feb 21 2013
    “It should move you to the core of your being to grasp a further revelation God has given concerning how He is fulfilling His prophetic word through this final end-time. The witness God established during the 1260 days led directly into God’s last prophetic day which is from Pentecost of 2012 to Pentecost of 2013 as the Day of the Eternal, the “day” of God’s end-time judgment upon mankind. How incredibly awesome this is in structure, meaning, and fulfillment. God has meticulously planned for how He will usher in His Kingdom to govern this earth at the return of His Son.

    December 19 2012
    “There can be no credibility given to Satan’s mocking and crying of “wolf, wolf” that has only worked to lullaby mankind into deeper sleep and disbelief of what is true from God
    “The time for warning has ended because the time for fulfillment is at hand—it has arrived!” False Prophet Ronald Weinland

    But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.

  • Ronco says:

    Can’t wait for Ron to start doing Sabbath sermons again…

  • martin says:

    Is he out out? Or still not fully out??

  • martin says:

    Does he now have the ability to put out sermons?

  • Byker Bob says:

    Armstrongism is a pathology for him at this point in his life. He’s not going to be able to keep from making up new prophecies, and will probably use his imprisonment to enhance his credibility. The feds are not going to try to shut him up. They want their taxes and fines.

    My prediction would be that he will struggle on, but with diminished capabilities. He’s only got one questionable job skill.

    BB

  • FedUp says:

    If Ron now has internet access, I sure do hope he trolls this particular site.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    My guess is that he is on home detention, with same restrictions he had after his sentencing and before reporting to prison.

    So I expect that he will be delivering sermons over the Internet from his basement.

  • Acts says:

    Maybe his Lawyers were able to get him out early because of his bad heart?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    There have not been any filings on Ron’s case since early in 2013. I think this is part of the normal transition out of prison that I described in this earlier post: http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=5191

  • Acts says:

    He might find that it is more stressful out of prison than in . I don’t think he will be giving sermons for a while , his doctor will probably advise against it. You need more rest ,Ron . Plenty of time in your $Tribulation$ …right?

  • Acts says:

    Well, if he is indeed out , I guess many will be making a pilgrimage to Cincinnati to kiss the ring and hear a few prison stories .

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Remember that this false prophet weinland has been with the “boys” in the jailhouse. Now he has to live with his phony wife – I don’t know which is worse!!

    This false prophet wienland may not like the hounding he will be receiving from the silent witness – “you need to do this now!” and “you need to get your butt our there and straighten up the world or it will be over for us”!!!!

    It’s your wife false prophet weinland – live with it!!!!!!

  • Hank says:

    This is to inform everyone that Ron has been released early, as of Tuesday the 15th, and he will be staying in what is called a “halfway house” in the Cincinnati area. We are not sure how long he will have to be there before being sent home to “home confinement.” This halfway house is only about a 15 to 20 minute drive from the house and it will save Laura about a three hour drive (one way) that she had been used to making. Hopefully it won’t be too long before he will be given the ability during the day to at least work from home (Church offices) in order to once again begin working on sermons, preparing the book for publication and distribution, etcetera.

    After a time, even if it takes a couple of months, he will be under “home confinement” in order to finish the 42-month sentence which will end in August. Until then, he does not believe that he will be able to travel to any other area, and even after it may be very limited for a time. We will just have to wait and see. The bottom line is that it is all a matter of God’s timing and where He intends that Ron should be, even if it is right here in the Cincinnati area for the next few years.

    As a result of being released early, we have cancelled the Missouri visit and Laura, along with Johnny and Myrtle will be in Cincinnati on that Saturday, December 26th. Ron will not be allowed to attend services this Saturday, but we are hopeful that he may be allowed to attend the following week, although this also may not be a possibility so please keep this in your prayers.

  • Byker Bob says:

    On several occasions, I picked up an individual who had just been released from a state penetentiary. There was quite an adjustment on my friend’s part to the open spaces and freedoms to make his own decisions about his activities. At first, the very act of being in a supermarket was a total freakout. It was also difficult for me, because his pattern was one of reoffending. He had a life expendency of 3-6 months of freedom in between incarcerations. The attitudes they learn on the inside really change them, especially if their self-image becomes that of a convict. My friend, because of his fighting skills, had been one of the torpedoes, a person the inmates use as an enforcer in their illegitimate power structure. Ron, of course, would have been in a federal prison most likely populated with white collar criminals. He may not have to deal with some of the same extremes of readjustment, but he is going to experience limitations and attitude changes directed towards him based on his being a convicted felon. When you are in the ministry, a conviction and the time spnt in prison do not enhance your reputation and status. Making your bones and gaining street cred may be beneficial in organized crime, but criminal activities by an actual practicing minister do nothing but arouse suspicion.

    BB

  • martin says:

    “Until then, he does not believe that he will be able to travel to any other area, and even after it may be very limited for a time.”

    In other words, he hasn’t been given any power to do anything.

  • Perhaps the Con is actually fulfilling Bible Prophecy.

    He has been the god of this world for the PKG. He was bound in a place of restraint, not for a thousand years, but for a thousand days.

    Soon, he will be released for a little season.

    It parallels Revelation, but it’s doubtful that he would use it for his book, although it’s encouraging to think that he would be thrown into the Lake of Fire (where the false prophet was… or is… or something).

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… even if it is right here in the Cincinnati area for the next few years …”

    This doesn’t make much sense, does it?? Are all of the world leaders going to be traveling to Ohio to receive direction from the false prophet weinland!!?? What a joke this is!!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Hey… remember that verse in Revelations where Jesus says that one of the Two Witnesses will be in jail for fraud and then released into a halfway house and can’t travel while his current Tribulation prophecy is failing?

    ME NEITHER! LOL!

  • freeatlast says:

    Acts yeah kiss the profit Ron’s ring although I am sure he would much rather bend over for their kisses! I wonder if he did any bending over in prison?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Is everybody ready for the cursing from this false prophet weinland?? This blog is his nemesis and this false prophet weinland is going to have to deal with blog before he does anything else.

    … who’s afraid of the big bad woof – big bad wolf – big bad wolf … who will huff and puff and blow your house down …

  • martin says:

    If Ronald the tax cheat Weinland can’t correct this blog, how on earth is he going to be correcting the whole world?

    He won’t, he can’t, aside from being a tithe thief and tax cheat, he’s also a false prophet.

  • LeftAtLast says:

    Great. So he’s getting out. I’m thinking he will reorganize pkg and heads will roll. Be mildly interesting to see what happens next.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Well, Ron is in a constant state of reorganization as nothing ever seems to work out for him. You’re an elder, you’re not an elder, the Lord is coming, the Lord is delayed. He can’t seem to get it right, but he will continue to make it up as he goes along, as he always has.When he’s too old or sick he will run off to Europe to live near the kids. Willing folks will still be able to contribute to his retirement fund. He will simply move ” headquarters” to Europe, cause it will ” make more sense.” He’s always up to something. Even when nothing happens again, the “faithful” will stick by him. They are indeed faithful to Ron, if that will ever bennifit them. I hardly think it will.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    … The bottom line is that it is all a matter of God’s timing …

    There is a problem here false prophet weinland – your failed timing doesn’t agree with God’s!! (Rev 11)

    What’s the problem here false prophet weinland!!??

  • martin says:

    Rev 11 says that the Two Witnesses can do as much “damage” as THEY WANT.

    The timing is in their hands. The fact that Ron nor Laura can not do a damn thing is because they are both false.

  • Randy says:

    I can’t wait to here his bullshit, if he breaths fire its from licking babba’s asshole l 🙂

  • Byker Bob says:

    His basic message is: Shit may or may not be happening, and even though I’m not quite sure of the schedule, if and when it does, I’m in charge, so pay me your tithes or you won’t make it to the place of safety!

    His biggest problem is that God has passed on the opportunity to validate him numerous times, just as He did with William Miller, Mrs. E. G. White, HWA, and all of the splinter group leaders.

    BB

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ron can weasel out of pretty much every bit of Revelation 11:1-14.

    The Two Witnesses, as described in the Bible, are given the power to DECIDE to use divine powers to destroy, so Ron can weasel his sway out of that… he’ll show the PKG that he is so merciful and grand that he is choosing to not do any of it. BUT… the citizens of the world are said to be celebrating when the Two Witnesses die because the Witnesses TORMENTED them. So Ron must torment the world in a significant manner. But the Bible says SOME people will desire this not all, so Ron will weasel his way out of that too. But Ron and Laura must LITERALLY ascend to Heaven, and their enemies witness this. BUT Ron can spiritualize this away to the PKG, that if R/L die their enemies witnessing their death is the same as seeing their soul invisibly rise and leave onward to Heaven. So Ron can weasel out of that one. What is left is that if anyone harms Ron he/she MUST be killed with fire that comes out of their mouths. So this is unambiguous. AND when they die their physical bodies cannot be buried for 3 1/2 days. They are resurrected and stand up on their own feet, physically. That must happen literally.

    BUT… as we all know, Ron has so totally rejected the Bible that there is NOTHNG the Bible can state that can stop him from just saying God is giving him 100% dispensation, that God is revealing that he, Ron, can break God;s promises/rules with no penalty because it is god himself who is approving of this act. Ron is using the idea of dispensation to justify his mostly complete denial of god’s law, and thus the PKG also feel they are free from their moral responsibilities, because of Ron’s imaginary god allowing them this “privilege” for tithing to Ron. The PKG are buying their way out of god’s laws, and feel that they will have great authority and power in the future world Ron is selling them. Ron “Dispensation” Weinland… selling heresy and blasphemy for the sake of the luxury lifestyle… in near total opposition of the word of the Messiah he pretends to advocate, and the God that created Reality.

    Ronald “Dsipensation” Weinland, granting himself the authority to murder the souls of his followers…

    Welcome to COG theology…

  • Acts says:

    Ronald and Laura Weinland are False Prophets. They fulfill prophecy

    Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit.
    Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Why by their fruits you shall know them.

    Take care everyone.

  • Randy says:

    He is a family wreaking false prophet , lier , thief , and will die that way ! Wonder how much life insurance the money whore has on him ? Oh and a FELONE !

  • Oh, I don’t know.

    Reading Ron’s postings really is torment.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… to at least work from home (Church offices) …”

    Hey false prophet weinland!! Call it what it is “home occupation”!!! This false prophet does not own any commercial property nor does this false prophet weinland rent any commercial property!!!!

    How come you cannot be honest in this!? Ooops, once a felon always a felon!!! How true this is!! This is why you are so repulsive because you are always using deceptions and lies to explain yourself and your failures!!!!

  • juror bags says:

    The Weinlands had more than enough cash to buy a parcel of land AND build a church building for his followers so they had a place to gather. They chose NOT to do so. They instead decided to BLOW said tithes on the whole famn damily. THEMSELVES!

    Laura and Audr’s extensive jewelry, BMW’s, trips to Vegas and vacationing all over the world including expensive cruise ship excursions wit $500 massages WERE MORE IMPORTANT than taking care of anyone else.

    We all know just how well these con-artists take care of the tithers that take care of them. THEY DON’T! Instead they destroy marriages, families, peoples finances, peoples futures, and leave a wake of disaster as they STEAL GOD’S TITHES to blow on themselves.

    FACTS.

  • juror bags says:

    As mean as it may sound or whatever I agree with Randy 100%. I also would have a big grin on my face if this loser strokes out just in time not to enjoy any new found freedom. That is about all they deserve and then watch the remaining three skid down the road on their asses flat broke.

    I am sure Laurdass will be a driving force pushing Mr. Alien Head to work like a slave to get as much cash as possible. I also feel whatever new con angle they try will be a failure. There will be no more new rush to join the PKG (People Keep Giving) CULT either. Mark my words. Their day in the sun is OVER. There is way too much true and fact based info out there on the entire mess and no one is going to open their bank accounts to a 5 TIME CONVICTED FELON proven to have stolen tithe cash previously.

    Good Luck with that one SCUMBAGS! No worries here but I bet they are highly concerned about their financial future. All I can say is Ron god #3 had better clean up his Magic 8 Ball and make some sparks fly out of his Magical Voodoo Wand. Not gonna happen.

  • juror bags says:

    Let me also add that now since Ron the Con will now have internet access soon and can possibly read this that you are most generously welcome jackass. I hope you enjoyed your time away from the over bearing gold digging bitch of a wife you have and Bubba was some good company at the Terre Haute Hilton. All of the jurors thought you are a lying con lunatic.

    May I also suggest you see a shrink because something is just not firing right in your ugly bald melon. MoRON!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Juror Bags:

    This false prophet will be catching up on all the comments here. This false prophet weinland will go ballistic and start with the useless and empty cursing(s). This false prophet weinland knows he has to deal with this blog because it stands in his way of greedy gain!!!

    I find this exciting now that this false prophet weinland will be able to run his mouth on the internet and so forth. It will be a delight to comment on his direct deceptions and lies from this point on!!

    Since this false prophet weinland does not have the means to go on television to spew his deceptions and falsehoods I wonder how this is going to be done. Johnny in his sermon stated that this false prophet weinland “will be on the world stage” when he gets out of prison and the “countdown” will begin (Well I thought the countdown began on Nov. 8th!?).

    Hey false prophet wienland!! It is time to put your ill gotten monies where your mouth is!!!! It is NOW time to do the dance!!!! Bring on the bargain basement threats and howlings!!!!

    By the way false prophet weinland, your fifty days “margin of error” will evaporate in six (6) days!!!! Now you will be on YOUR countdown – time to do it dude!!!!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I don’t think that this blog is that much of a threat to Profit Ronnie’s bottom line. For example, Fooled No More did not come onto this blog until he had already left. And there are those who were on their way out anyway, and this blog may have hastened their exit… slightly. I think the value of this blog is mainly to ease the transition of those who would be exiting anyway.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Good point Mike. But, I am of the opinion that the “curious” will also be reading this blog and that may put a damper on their giving money to this false prophet wienland.

    Your are right about helping the transition out of pkg.

  • hawkeye says:

    so Juror Bags ….just asking for trouble from ron weinland …he will probably curse you to die SPEEDILY from within ..like he did others …get in line behind Mike ….LOL
    cant wait to hear ole ronnie boy and his spin on how all this somehow fits in with his changeable timeline .

  • Fooled No More says:

    Mike you’re right. I had no idea this blog existed until a week or two after I sent my letter of intention to leave PKG. For whatever reason, the thought of The Weinland’s home came to mind, and I decided to Google a pic of it. One turned up, and it was hot-linked to this site. My eyes were immediately opened wide to the things I’ve read, and to things I had heard years earlier but ignored.

    One of the other reasons I left besides Ron being a false prophet——-I just felt that something was simply not right, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. Not till I read the court transcripts, and read some very interesting info from Juror Bags himself, I knew I made the right choice to leave PKG once and for all.

    Leaving them was probably the best thing I’ve done in 2015, and probably one of the best things I’ve done in my entire life. I got so tired of “hearing” how bad things are getting, but the only bad things I could see was my health that I wasn’t able to afford to take care of, and my bank account which was constantly on E.

    So yes, this blog has been VERY helpful in my transition out of PKG……….I sure hope others I know get it together and get the guts to leave. Time will tell.

  • Byker Bob says:

    You really have to wonder about the profile of a person who nonchalantly makes repeated false prophecies and then is unmoved by the pain and misery which his messages bring into the lives of the people who take his words seriously. Who was Ron as a young schoolboy? Was he the kid in the classroom who reveled in his own flatulence, causing the other kids to constantly ask the teacher to move him to another part of the room?

    BB

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    No, Ron was the kid bullying them for lunch money. You know, pay up or else…..

    Juror Bags, now you can run into Ron at the local Star Bucks. His first place he will go on his way to the house. Second place will be to Joyce’s to see how much money he can talk her out of again.

  • Randy says:

    Ron is not a bully he is a punk !!!!!!!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Martin:

    I did have a conversation with some I know in pkg. I will tell you this is that I did not see any happy faces. I didn’t push any issues with them. But I did ask them about this:

    “… And when Ron comes back on the world scene it will be a final countdown, brethren, to the return of Jesus Christ … And it will be beginning when Ron gets out of prison and a message would go to this world …” Senior Evangelist Johnny Harrell

    The question I asked was this, “according to weinland he and his wife became empowered as the two witnesses on November 8th of this year – this was in weinland’s timeline – how does this agree with Johnny Harrell’s statement above?” Which is it I asked?

    I was surprised at this answer!! One said, “it sounds like a setup to me.” A setup I asked? What do you mean by this? And the answer was, “I have heard this before.” And that was the end of the conversation. The others had nothing to say.

    I can say this; the one that answered me is on their way out of pkg. This is what I meant about not seeing happy faces. It is only a matter of time of hearing the same “old excuses” and “setups” to explain the failure of predictions by this false prophet weinland that leads to questions and disillusionments.

    I have to agree this statement by Johnny does sound like a setup to me.

  • Ozymandias says:

    At some point, if you are staying in PKG out of fear of falling away, or fear of what Ron could do to you spiritually, you have to come to the conclusion that he doesn’t have nearly as much power as he claims. What is there to fear? A man that is incorrect over and over? Who claims God speaks to him alone and then not ONE single prediction comes true. Perhaps some are starting to feel like FOOLS. PKG, if you worked for a man who agreed to pay you , but you NEVER saw a paycheck, would you continue to work for him? Only a FOOL would work hard every week and never see a dime. Ron and Laura are not that sweet and kind that you would stay for nothing. And then there are those pesky scriptures about false prophets to deal with. CLEARLY no one is reading any of those scriptures. When Ron gets out, it will be a celebration in his basement for a while, but nothing lasts for ever. He will settle in to his old self soon enough, and give his first self righteous sermon about paying taxes, tithing, and keeping your life in order, and some few will start to think. He will always have his posse and you just can’t worry about those people. Most are old and stubborn and will never see the truth. I have had many conversations with people who simply said ‘ where would we go?’ They’re not going searching for Godot again. Remember, many of these people are friends and will stay for the social life. We ALL did research into other COGS and guess what? ALL little carbon copies of WWCG. We did think Ron was different in the very beginning, but he is cut from the same cloth as the rest. Most people feel they need fellowship with like minded individuals. They will be very surprised if they even develop the courage to ask a few questions of each other! NO ONE thinks alike! Ron is fooling himself here to think they have a like mind. But, that may be the reason you are NOT allowed to discuss anything! He knows they don’t! To allow people to talk and ask REAL questions would be the end of all of them. Look what happened to WWCG. It won’t be long before a least a few will wake up, but most will keep plodding along with their friends.

  • Byker Bob says:

    We humans live in an imperfect world. Over the years, as a seeker of truth, I’ve become convinced that there is no human, or physical source of 100% truth. It has even been acknowledged, or admitted, that there are mistranslations and conflicts in the Bible. I believe that each of us is on our own individualized path, and that the lessons or truths we need to complete our paths are revealed to us as we need them. Often, we, or self-professing gurus have less to do with this than most people can possibly realize.

    Often, people believe they have truth, based soley on who they allow themselves to listen to. In the case of the ACOGs, because followers have allowed themselves to accept standards regarding teachers such as the sabbath, holy days, tithing, and clean meats, they allow themselves willingly to be led into not truth, such as a prophecy mold that has been failing every day since 1972, the first time in our modern era when we were supposed to flee to Petra. They also allow themselves to be financially defrauded, and to be abused by a cruel and decidedly unChristian authority structure.

    It would be very nice if humans had a source for 100% truth, could totally sell out to, and embrace it, become in tune, and life would be wonderful and purpose-filled ever thereafter. But it doesn’t work that way. No matter what makes the most sense to us, or whom we choose to believe, life still has elements of a blind, or black box experiment, with missing information, human flaws, and random happenings that affect everyone alike. If we get to take anything with us into the next life, it would appear to be an accumulation of experience.

    BB

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Byker Bob

    There is a system that provides a massive amount of truth (not 100%, but a lot) that we can embrace and be in tune with, and life is wonderful, etc, etc. That system is science. It may not provide us with the spiritual fulfillment, but we can trust proper science for so much in life (medicine, glasses, computers, cars, laser surgery, etc.). It also provides us with many answers to life’s questions, once again, when done properly. Proper science can also change, so it’s missing information and human error can be expected, as methods and tools improve. The best/proper science is self-correcting, always looking for any error, and acknowledges error.

    As for the afterlife, if there is one, I would think that our experiences are indeed what we bring along, what our consciousness remembers as being important. And if there is a god then we would be judged on what we prioritized. So Ronald Weinland’s memory/consciousness is going to damn him. No matter which god is real, Weinland has acted in such a way that any/all gods save for evil ones will be angry at him for being a criminal and false prophet.

  • Ozymandias says:

    BB, For years there was a constant debate in our area about what you could or could not do on the Sabbath. For some, any activity was wrong, while others would allow activities. Still others would go swimming, watch tv etc. The reasoning was that if you felt guilty, you shouldn’t do it. Some of us felt guilty for everything and some for nothing. You ended up gravitating to people who felt the same as you. This is why WWCG was such a spectacular split in the end. God made us total individuals, ie fingerprints , yet we strive to be as much like others as possible. Ron is a preacher of a like mind, but I don’t think this is all God intended for us, or we wouldn’t be so different. I can agree that our lives ARE an experiment of sorts. The churches of the world have ruled through fear, since their inception . Most people go along with religion out of habit. The COGS may have a slightly different message , but their bottom line is money. Take away the tithing and they don’t want anything to do with you. When they say they want a like mind, tithing is what they’re really talking about. What you do on the Sabbath or what foods you eat is a personal choice as no one is at your home to monitor you, but tithing affects the ministry , and they certainly check on that. Besides tithing , in PKG, you must also give regard to Ron being a supreme being. When it is proven that he is not, you must keep saying you believe it , to pretend to be of a like mind. Ron roots out anyone who does not believe it the supremacy of his family. All of this has far less to do with God than it does Ron, but his agenda is that if you argue with him , you argue with God. Years of conditioning makes people go along with this. It’s very hard to believe God doesn’t want us to ask any questions, when indeed nothing about life seems to be cut and dried.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Ozy:

    Tyrants only have so much time to do their damaged and then they meet their catastrophic end. This seems to be a law of behavior and it has been consistent throughout human history. There will come a time when this false prophet weinland’s tyrannical rule will destroy him and his family. In my opinion it is already in the works. To many lies, falsehoods and now setups to cover up this current lie of the 2019 return.

    Lies, lies, and more lies is all that comes out of this false prophet weinland’s mouth! I challenge anyone to prove me wrong!!

  • Ozymandias says:

    People will come to realize that you do NOT need Ron Weinland or any other minister to enjoy a relationship with God. They convince you that you do in order to extract money from you. No money, no minister. Ron told us years ago, that he could sell porta potties with his brother if we didn’t go along with him. An unveiled threat to leave us if we weren’t on board. He was letting us know that we needed him more than he needed us. Of course, he wouldn’t be setting his own paycheck with his brother, so he stayed with us. I just can’t imagine people still following along with him. If he didn’t dangle his carrots constantly , and change his day soften, so that people don’t know what to believe any longer , they might see the truth. They’re old and tired most of them. And don’t forget most of them have only ever read material put out by the church. They are afraid not to believe Ron. Afraid all of Gods good things will not be coming their way if they aren’t with Ron the witness, Ron the prophet etc. Ron will once again , be proven wrong, but some will stay til the bitter end. They’re faith in Ron is very strong. Unfortunately this faith in Ron overshadows any faith they should have in God.

  • Randy says:

    Well said Ozy !!!

  • Randy says:

    I have one of the most blessed life’s in the world, and I don’t have nothing to do with Ron can’t stand the asshole but I follow God in my heart !

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Ozy:

    I guess it doesn’t matter to the “old and tired” because they don’t believe the false prophet weinland either. It would be more difficult to leave and start all over again for them. I can understand that.

    But, the younger ones are a different story. It will only be a matter of time that they will figure out that they have been taken for a ride and will respond to that by leaving. Those are the ones this false prophet weinland needs to replenish his bank account. This false prophet is in danger of losing them. In johnny’s sermon he made a commitment that this false prophet weinland and his phony wife will be “doing their thing”when he gets out of prison. You know as well as I do it won’t happen and this false prophet wienland will be standing before the world naked!!!

    I see this time as being different from the other times of failure. There is a different feeling about this one and it rings of the end of this false witness weinland and his phony wife.

    We will see.

  • Ozymandias says:

    I have rarely seen Ron without an ace up his sleeve. Time will tell.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Ozy:

    I am with you on that.

  • martin says:

    Those that stay because they don’t know where to go, is like saying ‘keep poisoning me Ron, till I drop spiritually dead’.

    Those that stay will end up in the same ‘pit’ that Ron is going to end up in. The blind will lead the blind and both will fall into the same pit.

    No, staying should not be an option for anybody.

    I knew Ron was a false prophet in 2008. Didn’t take a lot (in my opinion) to prove it, and to prove it from the bible. For others, maybe they couldn’t do so in 2008, buy SURELY at this point in time, anybody with half a brain, should be able to prove the Ron is false.

  • martin says:

    “From Johnny’s sermon: “And when Ron comes back on the world scene it will be a final countdown, brethren, to the return of Jesus Christ. And that is the reality that we are facing now.””

    I assume that poor old Johnny thought Ron would be released Nov 8? Or was Ron “released” to the half way house at the time he made this statement? And that he thought that they would be active pretty soon?

    Will Ron be under house arrest till August? (the full term of his sentence?)

    It doesn’t really matter, the idea that the actual Tribulation is postponed till Ron’s sentence is finished is utterly, utterly preposterous.

    Those that stay should not be surprised at their ultimate fate if they decide to stay with Ron.

    Now, Ron says 2019 is the date of Christ’s return. Of course this is not true for a host of reasons, BUT between now and then, might something happen? Yes, and it will have nothing to do with Ron, but with end time events that will be fulfilled in their due time.

    The tragedy is that this will probably end up snaring PKGers back in again.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Martin:

    According to this false prophet weinland, “IF” there is a GT event between today and the year 2019 the USA would be devastated and would no longer exist as a nation. This false prophet weinland makes no sense what so ever!!! It is all “BS” from the south end of a bovine!!!

    The problem is that this false prophet weinland’s TIMELINE is still WRONG!!!! Looking at this false prophet wienland’s timeline the GT was suppose to have begun on Nov 8th coupled with a margin of error (fifty days) that will end on Dec 27th, five days from now. Now you have johnny harrell adjusting the GT date to when this false prophet weinland gets out of prison, so now is it Feb 17th or Aug 17th of this coming year – which is it!!??

    I believe what was said to me about a “setup” initiated by johnny harrell’s recent sermon to readjust the GT date is real!!

  • martin says:

    After the Feb 17th date, is he still on house arrest? That’s what I didn’t know before, I thought he was free Feb 17, but it sounds like he will still be under house arrest until August.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I wonder if he paid all the fines and back taxes that were due. Maybe he didn’t and that’s why he has to serve his full sentence. Speculating somewhat here.

  • martin says:

    Just to get this clear, Ron will be free from the halfway house Feb 17, but will still be under house arrest until August?

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Martin:

    Go to the “criminal case tab” and review the “sentencing order”. This false prophet has to deal with three years of supervised probation and there are other conditions listed as well. The government is still not done with this false prophet weinland. He still has to face the supervised probation for three years.

    I do believe in Hank’s post 12/20 on this page. It was the false prophetess wife that mentioned the August date. I would go back and review Hank’s post.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… After a time, even if it takes a couple of months, he will be under “home confinement” in order to finish the 42-month sentence which will end in August. Until then, he does not believe that he will be able to travel to any other area, and even after it may be very limited for a time. We will just have to wait and see. The bottom line is that it is all a matter of God’s timing and where He intends that Ron should be, even if it is right here in the Cincinnati area for the next few years …”

    Here it is Martin.

  • Enough is Enough says:

    “… even if it is right here in the Cincinnati area for the next few years …”

    This is obviously in reference to the three years of supervised probation.

    Hey false prophet weinland how are you going to deal with the probation issue, why are you not telling your remaining members the truth about this!!??

    Lies and deceptions that flow from this false prophet weinland’s mouth – prove me wrong!!

  • Byker Bob says:

    This is too much. Revelation doesn’t say anything about the two witnesses being on supervised probation! How can someone be taking the ultimate end time leadership position in doing “God’s” work, yet have all of that human authority bearing down on him? Probation can be some pretty nasty stuff.

    What I would like to see happen is that if he makes any prophecies that don’t come to pass, hoping to spike PKG offerings, he gets his probation violated when the prophecies fail, and the clock starts over on his probationary period. In a perfect world, that is exactly what would happen, but it’s probably too much for us to ask for.

    BB

  • martin says:

    The Two Witnesses are not going to be constrained by man’s law, they are only bound by God’s law at that point in time.

    First (obviously) they will not be in jail for crimes they committed. There will be attempts to kill them or arrest them I suppose, but they will not be bound or fettered by any of that until the time comes for them to be martyred.

  • martin says:

    If Ron is going to have three years of supervised probation….that would pretty much cover the remaining time of the GT.

    So if his travel is restricted, he could be in his local area for the entire remainder of the GT.

    Laughable.

  • whatmeworry says:

    In reading the comments here, I had a silly notion come into my head. It would be so cool if the “tribulation” would only fall on Ron’s house and family. Like the old cartoons back in the day, where a big cloud of rain would follow a poor sad sack around all over town. It would be sweet to sit back and watch them go through all the horrors he’s been spewing for so many years. Maybe make a reality series out of them. I’d watch that!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    whatmeworry:

    foolednomore made a comment that if anyone dumps pkg and this false prophet weinland that they would suffer “turmoil” in their lives. Well, what is happening in this false prophet weinland’s life – TURMOIL –

    Hummmm seeing is believing and all that I see in this false prophet weinland’s life is this: convicted felon, tax problems, declining income, declining membership, and PROBATION for three years!!!

    Lies and deceptions is all that flows from this false prophet weinland’s mouth – prove me wrong!!

  • Look, people — the solution to this conundrum is simple: Rename Cincinnati to Jerusalem! Then all of what Swineland says can be mapped to Revelation… just as long as he doesn’t leave his yard!

    Of course, he COULD declare that Cincinnati is a spiritual Jerusalem.

    Anyway, the problem is solved!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    Here are some of the probation conditions:

    The defendant shall not incur new credit charges or open additional lines of credit without the approval of the probation officer unless he is in compliance with the installment payment schedule.

    The defendant shall provide the probation officer with access to any requested financial information.

    The defendant shall not leave the judicial district without the permission of the court or probation officer

    OH MY false prophet weinland this is going to put a damper of your shady financial dealings!!! Now you have to have permission from a probation office to leave the judicial district!!?? Really!!??

    When are you going to inform your remaining membership about this? You have to answer to a probation officer first before you can do any traveling or you will risk a probation violation that could put you back into jail.

    You need to explain this false prophet weinland!!

  • Enough is Enough says:

    THIS SOUNDS LIKE “TURMOIL” TO ME!!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Another installment of Ron’s third book now reposted, Chapter 3 Part 1.

  • martin says:

    “After a time, even if it takes a couple of months, he will be under “home confinement” in order to finish the 42-month sentence which will end in August. Until then, he does not believe that he will be able to travel to any other area, and even after it may be very limited for a time. We will just have to wait and see. The bottom line is that it is all a matter of God’s timing and where He intends that Ron should be, even if it is right here in the Cincinnati area for the next few years.”

    WHAT IS THIS HORSE MANURE?

    God is confined to whatever the state requires of Ron?????????? The greatest and most powerful prophet of all time????????????????????????????

    GOD HAS TO WAIT FOR THE STATE TO ALLOW RON TO DO HIS GOD APPOINTED DUTIES???????

    How can anybody believe this drivel?

  • martin says:

    OVER 7 MONTHS have passed since when the GT has supposedly started.

    ZERO FROM RON (as always), nothing, zilch, he has done nothing will do nothing, his wife the lazy leech will not do anything either.