2014 Feast Introduction

Plimsol left a comment:

On the PKG website they have put up a “Feast 2014 Introduction” from Ron.

There’s a new prophet!!! Guess who!

Without further introduction, here is a copy of Ron’s Introduction for your commenting:

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Well, a special hello to everyone! Laura talked me into this short introduction this year for the Feast, and although it’s going to be a little short.

This reminds me of a greeting from Mr. Herbert Armstrong. In the last several years of his life he had a satellite hook-up to Feast sites around the world toward the beginning of each Feast of Tabernacles. And I can still hear that hearty, dynamic greeting. He would say, “Greeting’s, brethren, around the world!”

So again, greetings to all of you at this 2014 Feast of Tabernacles! Hello and greetings to all of you meeting together in Australia, New Zealand, to those gathered in The Netherlands and the United Kingdom, and to all of you in Canada and the U.S.

We also have some in a few other locations, scattered in different areas of the world, of those who could not be at sponsored Feast sites, but are at home by themselves observing this Feast and in some cases are able to get together with a few others. Now, we need to remember them as they’re not able to be in larger groups at organized sponsored sites, and they don’t have the opportunity that you do to hear this message. However, within a couple of days, it will be placed in with the sermon section of this years Feast sermons as a PDF (a written file only) so that at least everyone can read it.

Now, there is one other area that I’d like to extend a special greeting, as they must sometimes feel a little cut off, and that is to those of you gathered together in Hawaii, who, although you are part of the U.S., you are stuck out there a long way away from other church locations. So no one is forgotten and all of you are needed as vital parts of the begotten Family of God.

So you are all now observing a time that pictures the soon coming millennial period where this world and all its ways are to be put far behind you. So you are to do this at this time and enjoy and rejoice at this Feast – 8 full days together in God’s Feast.

Although I was sent to prison for serving God’s Church, as everything was actually about how God’s Church functions based on our beliefs of this being the end-time. So again, although I was sent to prison by the government where I live, it’s nothing new for God’s apostles and prophets. Now, Paul was in prison and later killed, just as Peter. And most of the original apostles were imprisoned and killed by the governments of their time. And we are only fairly certain about one, and that’s the apostle John, who was imprisoned in his time who was able to live out his life and die naturally. And we know of even John the Baptist who was imprisoned and then beheaded. Of course many of the prophets of old were imprisoned and many of those killed. So, as I was going to say, although I was sent to prison: God’s. Work. Did. Not. Stop. It has continued on, even as the “gates of hell” cannot stand against God, against God’s Church. In this case, the administration of the Church has continued on just as it was before, still being led by God’s last apostle in this age of mankind.

Today there is an important and strong message God is giving to His Church at the beginning of this Feast. During this final phase of the end-time, God has been pushing forward the recognition of women and their service to His Church. Now, I find that awesomely exciting!

Now, within the Church, God is giving us a wider, open window into changes that will occur in families, society, and the Church concerning the freedom from bondage that’s being given to women. This freedom is also a much greater freedom being given to both couples in a marriage, to all in the families, and even a greater, true freedom within God’s own Church.

Now, along those lines, what I mentioned a moment ago (repeating it): During this final phase of the end-time, God has been pushing forward the recognition of woman and their service to His Church. God has reserved this very time right now, while you’re listening to this, to make some very special announcements.

A while back I told the Church that there was the need for another level of service (of an office, of an ordination) that was needed in God’s Church. God is revealing that. That service was to be above that of a senior elder. God and Christ were showing me that it was to be a service, an ordination for both men and women. And as I mentioned then, I did not know what the description should be. Finally, when preparing this message, it was given to me, although we (Laura and myself) had considered other descriptions (or names) for this particular ordination, yet is has been made clear to me there is a term that we are already familiar with, and that is of that of a “pastor.” So that description is from the meaning of “pastoral,” which in this sense of the definition “is that of giving direct spiritual care or guidance as a function of responsibility within the Church,” and it ties in with further description in scripture that I’ll mention in a moment.

There is an order to ordinations that begins first under Christ with that of an apostle, then a prophet, and then followed by that of an evangelist, and now this reinstituted function just mentioned for a pastor. Now, the duties of a pastor are a part of the responsibility that already belongs to an apostle, a prophet, and an evangelist, and obviously they also have more duties that go beyond that of a pastor. This description of the work of a pastor is not one that is given to a senior elder. An elder may be involved in communicating such things to others as they have been instructed to do so from time to time by those over them; in other words, the source then of such spiritual care or guidance that in the past has only been coming from an evangelist, a prophet, or an apostle. Now that can also come directly from a pastor.

Now I’m going to read part of the primary description of such a service in the Church. It comes from Titus 1:9. It states that such a person is known for holding fast the faithful word as he (and now she) has been taught. During Paul’s time within the Church, and ever since then, and until now, that’s been the case in the Church as only men were in the ministry.

So reading it again: “Holding fast the faithful word as he (and now also she) has been taught that he (or she) may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and convince (and that word “convince” meaning in essence, “to expose”) the gainsayers.” It goes on in context that such responsibility also includes the authority to give rebuke, to give correction when necessary, when carrying out such duties.

Now, for some men in the future who may be ordained to this position, their duties will likely be reflected in more preaching on their part, in other words, in split-sermons or sermons, but that will not be the case, basically, for women (that they do not give sermons). For women, this new role will entail more direct, administrative contact and involvement, and this will be for the men as well, that it will involve more direct, administrative contact and involvement in spiritual matters with an individual or a group of individuals.

Now, certainly much more can be said about these duties, but for the sake of time in this message I’m going to press forward in this by saying that the first, first ever to be ordained to this is a woman, and it is an ordination, not simply a raise in responsibilities from an elder to a senior elder that does not required an additional ordination. So the first woman to ever hold this office was ordained by her husband and my wife, Laura, just before the Feast, and she is Myrtle Harrell.

Now, there is another ordination that God has reserved to be announced at this time. It is one that God and Christ began revealing to me around Passover season (even before that) of this year. I even held off discussing it with Laura for a time. I didn’t follow through with what God was revealing clear back then at that point in time because I was waiting until God had made it highly and abundantly clear to me that this was to be done. Now, there’s much prayer and spiritual manifestation, in other words, proof, evidence, that came through answered prayer before I would proceed with this.

A little over a month ago I ordained Audra to a prophet. I deeply believe all ordinations are from God and Christ and it is up to each individual, how they yield to such, whether it be the one being ordained or others, the rest of the Church. This ordination, for me, was rather close to my own experience when God was revealing to me that He and His Son had made me a prophet. I resisted that for a time and wanted to be exceedingly certain before announcing it, just as I was in this case.

Now, these two ordinations, brethren, are exceedingly exciting! It needs to be clearly seen that these two ordinations were established by God and Christ and we are to collectively rejoice together in what they have given the Church.

Again, I’m going to repeat what I stated toward the beginning: “During this final phase of the end-time God has been pushing forward the recognition of women and their service to His Church.”

Well, brethren, the ordination of Audra also pushes forward the kind of importance that God places on His great desire to work in family. God has been working mightily within my family for great purpose, to powerfully magnify the great importance and focus He wants on family itself. WE are a family! And we are made up of many physical families whom God desires to work in and bless far more fully into the future!

The period of this Feast pictures the Millennium. It is indeed about true freedom being granted to women, and thus to families as well, where families will be able to begin experiencing the kind of fullness and excitement in life that can exist when division, opposition, and the destructiveness of sins that brings curses to families can be more fully conquered so that families can reap far greater and awesome blessings and riches in life, all of this so that the vision of God’s Family, Elohim, can be magnified far more greatly.

Well, brethren, we have a great work ahead of us. In little over a year I am to be released from imprisonment by a government where I reside, as it is not my government, for mine (and yours) is the Kingdom of God in which we are ambassadors. We reside in different nations of the world and we are to be good and law-abiding citizens, but we all belong to one Government, and that is the Government, the Kingdom of God.

That which you are witnessing right now in the Church would not be in this Feast if I were not in prison, so I do rejoice that this is where I am so that God can reveal more of His perfect purpose and will concerning what I have been blessed to tell you in this message.

You have been blessed to have much—much more revealed to you through posts at a time that sermons and the administration of the Church has continued, as God has pushed forward the importance and true role of women, and also as He has given further training and equal experience to more within the ministry.

Now the words, the things that I am going to be saying next do not adequately convey my deep feelings, happiness, and joy that by my being in prison I have been so incredibly blessed to see in the kind of strength, growth, and life that God is giving to His people in this phase of His work. I believe with all my being that I am exceedingly blessed above all people – yes, and especially even while I am here imprisoned—to see things that otherwise never would have
happened.

I have seen greater blessings and incredible spiritual knowledge, understanding, and potential wisdom being poured out upon God’s Church in posts and the blessings of growth and strength that have been produced in the Church in brethren in this Family. And I have been blessed to see my own son give a split-sermon mightily inspired by God to His Church. I’ve been blessed to see how God has already been using my own daughter as a prophet before she was ever ordained to it. She has been trained and given an ability to discern and judge the spirit of matters within the Church and ministry, that I have mentioned before, that exceeds that which has been given to the general ministry in the Church. In the past many months, that has been magnified to Laura and myself. It is something that only God and Christ can give, as it is with all spiritual abilities that are given within the Church. And I have been blessed to see the love of my life no longer being a silent witness but a prophet who is serving God’s Church in a powerful way, administratively and spiritually, in strong spiritual perception, discernment, and judgement as God has pushed her out in the forefront in an incredibly important role and function of service to the Church during this phase of God’s ongoing work.

Yes, brethren, I have been so exceedingly blessed. You, too, have been exceedingly blessed. You will grasp that in a much, much, much deeper way ten, twenty, and thirty years down the road in ways you cannot truly fathom right now, just as I would not have been able to begin to fathom what I have been blessed to see and experience within only nine years after having a heart attack where I could have died. But God had more for me to do and to witness and He does for you as well.

So, rejoice in this Feast. Give of yourself at this Feast! And above all, give thanks and love to the Almighty God and His Son, Jesus Christ, for all your blessings in life. Laura and I love each and every one of you and we encourage you to press forward in this fight that is before us and the work that is yet ahead, being ever faithful to God. Be strong and of good courage!

 

 

244 Comments

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I’m confused. In December of 2008, Ron ordained Laura as a prophet, placing her just below him over evangelists and the rest of the church.

    But new prophets rank below evangelists. ???

  • Acts says:

    Acts says:
    October 17, 2014 at 08:51
    Delusion of unrighteousness , It means they are not following God ,So God has let them go their course , and the end is not Good.

    Audra , my Dearest , you better be Careful after 5 years with your first husband it only took you five months to jump into bed with another man. What a Peach you are! Even by the Worlds Standards , that is quite an example .

    Here is something that Jesus Christ spoke on

    Mark 10
    2And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. 3And he answered and said to them, What did Moses command you? 4And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorce, and to put her away. 5And Jesus answered and said to them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and join to his wife; 8And they two shall be one flesh: so then they are no more two, but one flesh. 9What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.

    10And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. 11And he said to them, Whoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, commits adultery against her. 12And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, SHE COMMITS ADULTERY .

    So now you are not only an Adulterer , But a False Prophet As Well.

    I find this Very iRONic

    A true Prophet once said , as part of the Testimony
    Jeremiah 23:14
    I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies

    On the surface this is For Daddy , because he is an unfaithful servant and commits Adultery against God . But now ,in your case it is Dual,
    Because you Physically commit adultery and now you are also a False Prophet. Amazing amazing amazing .

    Exodus 20:14
    Thou shalt not commit adultery.

    Psalm 119:172
    My tongue shall speak of your word: for all your commandments are righteousness

    Breaking the commandments is Unrighteousness .
    And with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved

  • Randy says:

    Hahahahaha sent to prison for serving Gods People

  • Randy says:

    This guy is so full of shit it’s coming out of his ears, he was put in prison for stealing Gods people’s money and not paying taxes on it found guilty of a jury of 12 in less than 2 hours on all 5 counts I laugh so hard i peed myself I thought my mom was a lot smarter than that

  • Plimsol says:

    Mike

    As I read it, Myrtle has been ordained as a pastor (a non-preaching one), below evangelist and above senior elder.

    Audra has been ordained as prophet (presumably a non-prophesying one, like Laura – its just about status) below Ron, equal with Laura, but above the evangelists.

    Three prophets in one family. Must be genetic.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ah yes, you are correct Plimsol.

    So reviewing Ron’s history, he started PKG as a pastor. Then became a prophet, skipping evangelist. And then became an apostle.

    Next, up — Jesus Christ.

  • Acts says:

    Acts says:
    October 17, 2014 at 07:56
    And with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    They believe a lie.

    Ron has completely done away with Scripture and put himself in the place of God.

    2 Thessalonians 2
    He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple(seat of Authority ), proclaiming himself to be God.
    (by his Actions )

    Ron is not alone in this . He is one of many. It is just astonishing to Witness the pure Unbridled Hypocrisy that comes from him.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Randy said: “Hahahahaha sent to prison for serving Gods People ”

    It’s a cookbook.

  • Debbie says:

    Ron is clearly suffering from Meglomania combined with Delusional disorders. Ronnie is trusting that remaining PKG members are not interested in the ‘court transcripts’ which clearly provide the reason he was convicted of 5 felony counts. PKGers have very thick rose coloured glasses on as Ronnie has clearly proven by his lying & thieving on a continued basis, yet they choose to continue to follow & pay tithes (or they would be disfellowshipped).

    Careful Ronnie – as ‘Thou dost protest too much’. Nice touch elevating the wife & the daughter to prime earning positions. Are they to be ‘The Two Witnesses – the reboot’? Another year of imprisonment and Ronnie will be ‘returning’? as in ‘Jesus Christ returning’?

    Randy – your comments ROCK !

  • Randy says:

    Thanks Debbie

  • Acts says:

    What amazes me the most is how he can still sit there and say he is an Apostle of Jesus Christ , when he Teaches the complete opposite of what Christ said, over and over again .

    You blasphemous Hypocrite ! you have forfeited your own life because of Pride.

  • Acts says:

    1 Corinthians 14
    34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted to them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also said THE LAW. 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it to you only?

    37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write to you ARE THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD.

  • Acts says:

    2 timothy 3:16

    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE , for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for instruction in RIGHTEOUSNESS

    ”Now, within the Church, God is giving us a wider, open window into changes that will occur in families, society, and the Church concerning the freedom from bondage that’s being given to women. This freedom is also a much greater freedom being given to both couples in a marriage, to all in the families, and even a greater, true freedom within God’s own Church”

    Hebrews 13:9
    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. 9 Do not be carried away by varied and strange teachings

    Women have always been free in Christ. Ron you are an ABOMINATION! The lake of Fire will destroy any hopes you have of eternal life .

    2 Timothy 3
    This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, truce breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

    EVER LEARNING , AND NEVER ABLE TO COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH.

  • bilbo says:

    Oh wow just when you thought this sideshow couldn’t possibly get more corrupt.

    > A little over a month ago I ordained Audra to a prophet.

    Clever euphemism for a succession plan for the family BUSINESS?

    The contortions required for Two End Time Witness, to lie, and then become three prophets, all members of a family making millions off playing simple folks who just want to worship …

    Congratulations on the promotion to cult Guru and your seat on the board of directors. I would never ever want to be in those shoes, the dishonor and shame involved, thinking about it knocks the wind out of an honest person.

    Anyone dumb enough to fund this family is, well, dumb.

  • bilbo says:

    The way these people throw God’s name around like they own Him … and profiteer off His Word if the bible really is stuff the cosmos wants us to know … I wouldn’t play those kinds of games with the universe, that is an astonishing level of audacity …

  • Acts says:

    PKG does not believe in The Word of God. They believe in the Word of Ron.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzSO2IOjmu0

    Jeremiah 23:36 NLT
    But stop using this phrase, ‘prophecy from the LORD.’ For people are using it to give authority to their own ideas, turning upside down the words of our God
    KJ
    for every man’s word shall be his burden; for you have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.

  • Acts says:

    Deuteronomy 4:2
    You shall not add to the word which I command you, neither shall you diminish ought from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

    Matthew 5:17
    Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.

    Ron changes Gods Law and calls it new truth . PKG is LOST!

  • GreenBus says:

    The last time I heard of this guy he claimed that he and his wife were the Two Witnesses spoken of in Revelation. Surely they would be above his current ‘rank’. What happened to the Two Witness proclamation? Does he still claim to be one of them?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    “In this chapter of the bible, God reveals two end-time witnesses and a work He had predetermined that they were to fulfill. That work has only partially been fulfilled and a far greater work is yet to come. ”
    http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=5000

  • Acts says:

    Matthew 15
    9 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Poor poor son, once again your overlooked. Guess you didn’t bring in enough people with your split sermon? The “kids” already had their noses up in the air, now they must walk on air? How to people get so sick? Even the health and mental issues I deal with on a daily basis (my job) does not equal what this family comes up with.

    Oh, oh, Audra’s husband is overlooked also.

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    “ten, twenty, thirty years down the road”….does this mean he is already admitting “the end” is not in 2019?

  • Jay says:

    Those who truly know who Audra really is are having a good laugh. Hold up those chocolate martini glasses. She sure knows how to drink with the best of them. Maybe that is how she can prophecy. She thinks she is seeing something from god but it is just the booze talking. Cheers

  • martin says:

    Prophets prophesy. I have yet to hear of any prophecy of Ron being fulfilled. Laura is clueless and couldn’t prophesy herself out of a paper bag. Audra is equally clueless from the sound of it.

    The bible only mentions 2 men who are the Two Witnesses not 3 or 4.

    Will these other two imbeciles prophecy ANYTHING? I doubt it.

  • Randy says:

    The money whore is doing everything she can to keep the money coming into the Weinland family mafia !

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    UNBELIEVABLE !!!!! I wonder if this will lead to others leaving “whatever this is?

  • martin says:

    Nowhere in the bible do you see any MAN picking a prophet.

    The only one you see choosing and recruiting prophets is GOD HIMSELF.

    Did a MAN appoint Moses? Did a MAN appoint Daniel? Did a MAN appoint Jonah?

    No.

    God picked them, no man picked them.

  • Randy says:

    Good point Martin

  • Randy says:

    The greedy assshole and his bitch need to step down and let someone else take over !

  • Ozymandias says:

    PKG IS lost and Ron is nuts! Jeremy is next I’m sure. With raises of course.How on earth do you just get to call yourself or appoint another to be a prophet? Myrtle got thrown a bone so Ron could make Audra a prophet. He want to make sure the crown stays in the family. Ron seems to be feeling a little mortal so he’s ensuring the next 20 years are taken care of. Jeremy gave a sermon and he will surely start working his way up the ladder. This stuff reads like a bad soap opera! You miss a couple of years come back and everything is the same . Only now the actors are old as dirt and they have to get some young blood in. LOL I don’t know much about the other COGS but Ron has really gone the extra crazy mile. Are all the leaders this nuts? This didn’t work for Samuel , it didn’t work for HWA and it certainly won’t work now. Why can’t people see this is NOT a family business that he started in his garage? God chooses the men he wants as prophets, they don’t choose themselves and then their family and friends . Keep in mind too that HIS kids are PROPHETS and NO ONE except Ron and Laura are above them. Talk about passing the baton. He thinks he’s a KIng passing the crown to his child! Please remember PKGers , this is ALL about power and money. Keeping the CONTROL all in the family. I personally have nothing against Audra and Jeremy but prophets? I think not. They barely finished college(?) What gives them the credentials to give anyone life advise? Funny he got both of them to go along with his madness. Money really talks I guess. And of course there’s the worship and adoration that is bestowed upon them as the future king or queen. He’s setting them up for life long after he’s gone. It may not matter if he can’t keep this up for 20 or 30 years if he gets enough old ladies to leave them their money. What a bunch of whack jobs.

  • Randy says:

    Not only was he found guilty by a jury of 12 in less than 2 hours Ron had the best tax Laywers money can buy and still found guilty!!!!!!

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    Has anyone noticed that all these phonies are women? This is laura’s band of merry women all over again!!! No testicles in the high command only overactive ovaries!!!

  • Byker Bob says:

    How can you ordain someone as a prophet? That makes about as much sense as ordaining someone as a rocket scientist, and then expecting them to go down to Houston to reveal new, revolutionary ideas about space travel to NASA! Somebody needs a brain check! Unfortunately, Weinland loyalists probably expect Audra’s ordination to be effective! Somebody should ordain Weinland as a proctologist. That would be a more appropriate career for him, although some might prefer homeless status for him.

    BB

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Ron a proctolgist? A good choice…..shove it up your a____he’s good at that. Also while at it maybe grow a set of testicles. Don’t understand how people in PKG can’t see how he spins things. Long before I stopped listening to him, I could point out errors in what he was saying. I’m not the smarted person in the book, I can still read for myself.

  • Ronco says:

    “How can you ordain someone as a prophet? That makes about as much sense as ordaining someone as a rocket scientist, and then expecting them to go down to Houston to reveal new, revolutionary ideas about space travel to NASA! ”

    C’mon Byker Bob, it’s called Suspension of Disbelief- you know, like the transporter, warp travel and the universal translator in Star Trek… You just go along with it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief

  • Ronco says:

    Suspension of Disbelief is how Col Klink and all the those other folks at Stalag 13 spoke perfect English…

  • martin says:

    Tell tale signs of an Anti-Christ

    1) Denies Christ’s eternal existence

    2) Commits acts only God is authorized to do

    3) Over turns God’s clear commands in scripture.

    4) Gives false prophecy after false prophecy and is somehow innocent

    5) Is “sin free” can do no wrong, is above the law.

  • Acts says:

    “So, rejoice in this Feast. Give of yourself at this Feast! And above all, give thanks and love to
    the Almighty God and His Son, Jesus Christ, for all your blessings in life. Laura and I love each
    and every one of you and we encourage you to press forward in this fight that is before us and
    the work that is yet ahead, being ever faithful to God. Be strong and of good courage!”

    Proverbs 26:26
    Though his hatred is concealed by deception, his evil will be revealed in the assembly

    10:9
    Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but whoever takes crooked paths will be found out.

    Matthew 10:26
    For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

    And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him. Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I Do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?”…

  • foxglove says:

    Audra never went to college. She worked in an appliance store.
    Jeremy went to college but has never held a job. Ron has taken a line from the old playbook of using women to get what he wants. I am a woman but I also know that women are more easily influenced on some matters. And if you want something from them just give them a little power over men. You have a lot of women in PKG and Ron is using this to his own good. You can see this in politics when a man is running for office, he will pander to the women most times.

    Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of my paths.
    Isaiah 3:15 What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces , and grind the faces of the poor? Saith the Lord God of hosts.

    It is all prophesied. So Ron really is bringing about what God says is to happen. He just doesn’t realize that he is going to have to pay the price of what God is going to do after that happens. You really need to read the rest of this chapter to get the full meaning.

    In the end it is all up to God and He will tear down the house that Ron has tried so hard to build up of his own power. I just feel so sorry for those that are still sitting there and believing his lies as they will have to answer to God also. We are not to be ignorant of His word. They all have Bibles and I don’t know why they are afraid to open them and see the truth for themselves.

  • charlie says:

    except Sgt Schultz …and even he knew more than ron

  • Acts says:

    Jude 1:11
    What sorrow awaits them! For they follow in the footsteps of Cain, who killed his brother. Like Balaam, they deceive people for money. And like Korah, they perish in their rebellion

  • Although I was sent to prison for serving God’s Church, as everything was actually about how God’s Church functions based on our beliefs of this being the end-time. So again, although I was sent to prison by the government where I live, it’s nothing new for God’s apostles and prophets. Now, Paul was in prison and later killed, just as Peter.

    I didn’t think this could get crazier, but it just did.

    Now if Conald Swineland can be in prison and killed for being a false prophet (according to Deut. 18) we’d have something.

    Rom 13:1-5 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
    :2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
    :3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
    :4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
    :5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

    I guess Swineland isn’t very proficient with Scripture.

    He was sent to prison for serving himself.

  • LeftatLast says:

    Let me see if I have this right. Audra is a prophetess, Myrtle the first non preaching pastor because she is a woman..but she is above the senior elders, both men and women. Hmm. Some senior elders are going to have a problem with that. I’m just stunned at this whole freak show. Its like being witness to an impending disaster that you can’t stop.
    Watch out Audra and the rest of you Weindlands. A coup is inevitable in these situations of absolute power and authority. and your hand picked servants who will be your future enemies and the cause of your empire’s demise are already waiting in the wings.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Foxglove, Ron is setting his whole family up to ensure that PKG stays in their hands. “My whole family is called to be a major part of this work”. He is ensuring that the money stays right where it is, whether they have ever worked or not. Audra had a job during her rebellious stage but finally figured the BMW was on the other side of the fence. Jeremy has been a “remote” helper for years but again finally realizes he is going to have to show his face occasionally. Ron really is playing the “women and the kid” card. His posts are coming off very emotional. If you think about it he sounds like Paul writing it the NT. How poetic. Women are all too happy to grab a little silica of power if it’s offered. Don’t know if I understand the “bondage” business. Women are hardly in bondage. Most women do exactly what they want in this day and age. Ron is the old fashioned one. This is all for a reason. First the set up of Myrtle and then the REAL message of Audra becoming a prophet. He is ensuring that the whole family stays in power in case of his demise. With prophet being the highest rank in his little system, there is no opportunity for any one to EVER usurp their authority. First , second and soon third in line for the throne. You know Jeremy is not far behind and now HE is giving sermons. What a surprise!!! Someone in his family would have to after all. All this silent witness business is BS. If he could get all of them to preach he’d be blissful. Ron figures that by the time everyone figures out he’s full of it , he’ll be long gone and the kids will be set for life.

  • LeftatLast says:

    Yes, Cain replied” am I my brothers keeper”. PKG has perverted everything from its true meaning. Especially this. They’ve gone from being there for their brothers to betrayal of their brothers. Any question or comment is reported, to be used against you. You will be weighed and judged accordingly. That’s what is meant by discerning of spiritual matters. How good are your eyes and ears, and who are you willing to throw under the bus in your quest for reward?
    It’s a group of spy masters where no one is free to grow. Competition is fierce for power and position. Compassion and helping others understand and draw closer to God are long gone.

    Wondering if Ron is il to be setting up the kids, along with loyal Myrtal as sidekick for the wife? That” if I died in prison I’d still be happy” (paraphrased ) comment makes me wonder…

  • Byker Bob says:

    Ron was sent to prison for being like Gehazi, or Annanias and Saphira! Apparently secular courts and secular government also profoundly realize the deceptiveness and evil inherent in such activities, not just those who regard the Bible as being God’s word.

    BB

  • Randy says:

    My mom always has a negative attitude she she they are all crooks , yeah especially starting with Ron and Laura ! Lol

  • Randy says:

    He is like a dictator they always keep it in the family to keep control, power hungry bastard !!!!! I would love to be a fly on the wall when he stands in front of God !! He can bullshit pkg but not God !

  • Soap Opera says:

    Its interesting that Ron has made Audra a prophet, I have been trying to work out why and a couple of reasons come to mind.
    1st is that Audra hasn’t the respect as a leader that a minister needs to have from the congregation. Most don’t mind her as a person but do not consider her leadership material.(same with Jeremy) if Ron & Laura were not pushing them onto everyone very few would take any notice of them.
    Ron may be hoping this new promotion will go some ways to fixing this problem.
    2nd By putting her in this position and then Jeremy it will help keep Wayne in his place as he in my opinion is more popular with the congregations than any of the others including Laura.
    Now with Myrtle being upped in rank, Ron will have to promote Waynes wife.
    May leave this till they are over here in Nov & Dec then promote her in a show of solidarity

  • Ozymandias says:

    My job as pastor is to ” expose” and narc on the gainsayers, but not to preach. Well why not preach? What cha afraid of Ron? Some of these mouthy gals might give a much better sermon than some of the spit fire men you have preaching. LOL Let’s hear from the ladies!! They’re ministers , elders , pastors and prophets! Why not hear some sermons? Silent? Well they sure as hell aren’t. You are proving that all they’re good for is gossip and throwing people under the bus. Admittedly, a pastor who doesn’t preach but ” exposes” people!! Sounds like the gossip hotline has been given permission to rebuke and exhort. Just what they needed!! Now I can throw you under the bus AND run you over. LOL

  • Ozymandias says:

    Bingo! Soap Opera! There is always an ulterior motive for what Ron does. Interesting to try to piece Ron’s little puzzle together. We know Jeremy is in line for “pastor”. I think you’re correct about Chris M. They can’t raise Johnny or Wayne to prophet after all. So now they must give these ” just under” jobs to the ladies.

  • Ozymandias says:

    BTW, I personally have nothing against any of these ladies. But I think if you want equality and the same paycheck you should be willing to do the same job. It just isn’t good enough that men are preaching and ladies aren’t. Maybe Ron is stuck working out that pesky scripture about women being silent in church. He’s still working on the true ” spiritual” meaning of the scripture and doesn’t have it all set in his mind. God hasn’t FULLY given it to him but soon he’ll have it figured out. Then he can write a sermon that someone besides Jeremy can read.

  • Randy says:

    After Laura gossiped so much about Myrtle she had to do something to make amens !!!!

  • Randy says:

    It’s just like Laura, let the old lady from Wisconsin borrow 3,000 to move down by her from church funds, and when she payed it back Laura deposit it in her personal checking account . This is a fact just look at court transcript, they are out for the money and power !!!

  • Called To Blessing says:

    Mike,
    Any prophets ordained by Ron are above the evangelists. He is keeping they Money and Control within the family business. If you aren’t a Weinland you cannot be a prophet. God is only working within his family. Really? He will bestow terms and titles to others to appease those who have and rightly so more experience and spiritual years than Audra or Jeremy. Jeremy will be next of course. Ron just has sit and figure out ways to spiritually justify all his wrongdoings to the other members. The longer pkg goes on the more ridiculous and preposterous it all is. I’ve never seen anyone, or any family shall I say, that has such little humility. It’s quite shameful whether they feel
    Shame or not. And it’s the same shamefulness on those who accept these Ron-appointed terms
    and titles. They are accepting titles from an
    Obvious self-appointed false prophet and charlatan.

    He has continuously twisted God’s word to suit his own
    Agenda.

  • Called To Blessing says:

    Interviewer: So Audra how did you know you were a prophet?

    Audra: Umm. Well…cuz like my dad told me.

    I always liked Audra well enough. But I’m not fooled into thinking that in a few short years one can go from appliance salesgirl to prophet. It’s rather silly of Ron to force these positions on them. At one point they didn’t want anything to do with the goings-on
    Of the day-to-day church business. In fact, Jeremy couldn’t wait to go to Europe to not deal with it. But I think now they are realizing that
    in order to keep the cash flow they are actually going to have to do a bit of work to get their free flow cash. If Ron weren’t sitting in jail for his illegal and unethical ways he wouldn’t be forced to make these titles and terms. He never did it before as it isn’t his nature to share any limelight, and this is just something he is realizing must be done in order to keep control over the people.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Still, what an awful lack of understanding of logic and theology these people have! You don’t ordain a prophet in advance; after an individual demonstrates a successful track record of fulfilled prophecies, you acknowledge that they have the gift of prophecy. It is a retrospective title or acknowledgement, unless someone is just trying to play a game of “Bible”, and throwing around titles. This is even worse than Bob Thiel, who says that while he was being annointed for general fatigue and the onset of a cold, an elder whose first language was not English inadvertently prayed for him to receive a double portion of the Holy Spirit, thus making him a prophet like Elisha. History going back over 70 years proves that there haven’t been any prophets who came from the Armstrong movement. Neither were there any from the predecessors, the Adventist movement, or William Miller.

    BB

  • Ozymandias says:

    A delicate state of mind seems to be the order of the day for all these COG leaders. I am not familiar with any but Ron but they all sound like they support their own version of crazy.This guy sounds like he got a double dose of something alright. I have heard many sermons over the years from men with a loose grip on reality, but it never seems to end.

  • martin says:

    The bible says you SHALL (in time, with the passing of time) know BY THE FRUITS. The fruits of a prophet should be obvious : fulfilled prophecy.

    It does not say you can appoint one to be a prophet. Such absurd thinking by Ron the nutcase Weinland.

  • Randy says:

    Need to through the Weinland family Mafia out and let some one like Greag Chipps take over he,s not in it for the the money he left his Job to of a lot a Mone to work for PKG ! And I bet he would run it for $100,00 a year ! Just saying

  • Ozymandias says:

    Perhaps I am far too logical , but how can people swallow all this BS? Every day it’s something new, new or present truth. None of it backed up with any kind of proof or reason. No one could get away with this outside of the church. Preaching things that don’t come to pass, ordaining unqualified people to top posts. Oh wait , this happens all the time in the world. It’s called politics. Something we are cautioned to avoid.Perhaps because it hits to close to home.

  • Randy says:

    Audra is dumb as dirt if God picked a prophet it sure would not be her , lol I’m not very smart and I told mom none of Ron shit would happen over the last 10 years and it didnt she than you should be a prophet, I said yes mom I made more perdition right than the asshole did !!!

  • Randy says:

    I know Greg Chipps personaly very nice kid he may be desired by Ron and Laura , but I don’t thing he is in it for power, money and greed !

  • Randy says:

    Jesus’s turned water to wine , what did Ron And Laura and Audria do !!!

  • Randy says:

    Mine was not given nolige, it as comin seince!! I can’t spell but you all know what I mean

  • Weinlands have ebola of the brain.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Maybe they are some of the people who ate the white paste we used on our paper construction projects in grade school.

    BB

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    hey, I remember that paste. It smelled good, but I don’t remember ever eating it.

    Just like Ron. PKG thinks he talks good, maybe they should eat what he says?

  • martin says:

    There is a couple who say they are the reincarnation of Jesus and Mary.

    People believe these idiots. I think they are building some big campus or something.

    I amazed at the lack of common sense and the lack of bible knowledge these kinds of people exhibit.

  • martin says:

    http://www.divinetruth.com/Photos/JesusMary/2010JesusMary3.jpg

    Alan John Miller (1962–), more commonly known as A.J. Miller, a former Jehovah’s Witness elder and current leader of the Australia-based Divine Truth movement. Miller claims to be Jesus Christ reincarnated with others in the 20th century to spread messages that he calls the “Divine Truth.” He delivers these messages in seminars and various forms of media along with his current partner Mary Suzanne Luck, who identifies herself as the returned Mary Magdalene.

    So maybe it shouldn’t surprise me that PKGer’s still follow Ron the liar thief and fraud.

  • charlie says:

    perhaps ron has been sniffing too much of his invisible ink

  • FedUp says:

    Wow. I just…honestly, I don’t even have words.

  • Don D says:

    Ron says that: “A little over a month ago I ordained Audra to a prophet.” Does this mean that this was the world’s first ORDINATION to take place in the Visitor’s Room of a US Prison? I wonder what his fellow inmates made of that touching little ceremony? Did the prison warders make a video of Audra’s ordination for posterity?

    Weinland continues to use phrases such as:
    1) “God and Christ began revealing to me around Passover season…”
    2) “God and Christ were showing me that…”
    3) “God is revealing that.”
    4) “I didn’t follow through with what God was revealing clear back then at that point in time because I was was waiting until God had made it highly and abundantly clear to me that this was to be done.”

    How can Ron seriously expect any one to believe that he receives revelation from God and Christ? On EVERY occasion when he has prophesied that something was about to happen because God or Christ had “revealed” it to him, that “revelation” turned out to be wrong! Every time. So confident was he that he was receiving revelation from God that he claimed in his book ‘2008-GOD’S FINAL WITNESS” that he knew the EXACT DAY on which Christ would return (pp. 21 & 22). And yet at least on three occasions (and still counting!) those “revelations” proved to be 100% false.

    And lastly, Ron is now saying: “You, too, have been exceedingly blessed. You will grasp that in a much, much, much deeper way ten, twenty, and thirty years down the road in ways you cannot truly fathom right now.”

    Ten, twenty, and thirty years down the road? Has Ron finally resigned himself to the likelihood that the PKG will still be waiting for Christ to return in thirty years time? Where will we all be in 30 years time? In the year 2044. (As for myself, I hope I’ll still be surfing and jogging on my local beach at the grand old age of 106! Stay tuned, folks!!)

  • martin says:

    “Ten, twenty, and thirty years down the road”

    Nice of Ron to drop hints that he plans on conning for the next 30 years.

  • martin says:

    Ron is basically saying that 2019 date is a false prophecy. This time he’s conditioning the PKGers years in advance instead of waiting till the last minute.

  • Byker Bob says:

    I wonder. Jesus clearly taught that His followers were to render unto Caesar what is Caesars, ie pay their taxes. Yet, Ron somehow did not get that message, and is now paying the penalty for that. If he ever did have some sort of message from God and Jesus, it is obvious that he does not listen closely enough. That makes him a very poor guide, one whom you can know in advance that will get you into trouble if you follow him. He has sidelined himself from what he tells people is his commission. It is not persecution to jail an individual for committing a crime, especially if Jesus had already warned His followers against committing that very crime. But, hey, this is Armstrongism, an environment in which reality and rational thinking are suspended, though its teachers claim the exact opposite.

    BB

  • Ceil Rosenberger says:

    Please, help me. My marriage is on the line here. I have a husband that just can’t see these two assholes for what they are worth. Liars and thieves!!! I found out he gives them 10,000.00 a year. We do without things here because of this. We used to have a good relationship till he got back into that crap. How does one deal with this. He makes excuses for him being sent to prison. My husband really is good. Mislead. But, how does this happen to someone you know is good? Weak, perhaps? I feel he is missing something in his life and has gone about it wrong. Do not want to end my marriage, but do not know what to do. I have never involved myself in any of this. Never was that naive. Please, someone help me muddle through this
    Very overwhelming!!

  • Acts says:

    from Cinci?

  • Byker Bob says:

    Ceil,

    It would be nice if there were some sort of all purpose silver bullet for these situations, but they can vary widely. I typed the following into my browser, and some good resources came up: “support groups for people with spouses in cults”. One site came up to help people whose spouses were part of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and that group shares a number of similarities to Armstrongism. I would recommend reading widely, and perhaps some appropriate nuggets will stand out. A vast amount of experience has been collected in the area of dealing with cults, or living in the presence of them. Best wishes. This is a tough situation, as others here have shared their own similar experiences. Feathers seem to work better than hammers.

    BB

  • Byker Bob says:

    The problem you are facing is that members in this group believe that leaving the group means that they give up their eternal salvation. And, that is perhaps the most powerful of factors. Something has to happen, either through better biblical understanding, or loss of confidence in the group and its leader, to convince a member that this is not the case. Because they all memorize their strings of carefully picked and chosen scriptures, it is difficult to get them to even examine the scriptures compiled by other, perhaps more mainstream groups. You hear cliched responses such as, “Why should I waste my time reading their materials, they don’t even keep the sabbath!” Or, “These people don’t even understand the correct identity of the American and British People!”

    The good news is that 50% of all of the people who were ever baptized into this “faith” end up eventually leaving. Time is on your side.

    BB

  • Randy says:

    Ceil every time I here one of these stories I get so mad, there’s no excuse for him being in prison the facts all on record it has nothing to do with religion!!! These home reackers will pay for this someday ! They will rot in hell or maybe the great prophet Adria will save them 🙂
    I hope the best for you Ceil

  • Acts says:

    I knew your Husband, he is a Genuine nice guy. One of the most Genuine people in all of PKG . Sorry to hear about your troubles . I remember hearing they made him an Elder ,They usually do that especially with people who send big tithes in.

    PKG is a Stronghold of Delusion , so you have to be careful in how you go about helping your husband. When the time is right , Gently remind him this one thing

    2 Timothy 3
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. If he Truly believes Scripture is inspired By God and is For CORRECTION , Then he must look back on how very Far Ronald Weinland has gone away from Scripture .

    If your husband believes the Bible is The Word Of God , As I think he does ,Then maybe remind him of this one scripture and how Ron has Thrown the Bible out the Window. Verse 16 Says that SCRIPTURE IS ABLE TO MAKE YOU WISE UNTO SALVATION through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

    I would gently remind him that there is no new Doctrine apart from what is already Written there at this time. It is his Duty to Prove All things and Measure Ronald By Scripture . If he does that he will soon find How truly Insane Ron is and hopefully leave.

    Again , I am really sorry about your troubles , but don’t give up on C He is a Great Guy . just give it some more time , there should be another Exodus coming soon especially after this latest insanity .

  • martin says:

    I hate to say it probably won’t help, but tell him the bible explicitly states that the Two Witnesses are both men.

    Just as Jesus had to be of Jewish decent, first born, a male, etc…etc….these had to be true and were true, so it is also true that the Two Witnesses are both explicitly stated to be men.

  • Overit says:

    Another marriage totally destroyed due to this asshole . We can’t even be civil to each other……we got in an argument today and he ( who is an associate elder) actually called me a F%#king B…… Amongst a few other choice words. I am sure God is pleased with him ESP. Being from “gods only true church” he has made so many poor choices and is ruined financially. I can’t believe he would behave in this manner and lie, steal, and have an affair while in Gods true church. The most amazing part of it all is he can find ways in his head to justify everything….can’t wait to get rid of him and his craziness, after 30 years. I hope he reads this cuz I am so done!!!

  • Overit says:

    This blog was just for you George

  • Ronco says:

    Ceil, I don’t know what to say other than my thoughts are with you. I remember gawking at Armstrong back in the early 80’s and laughing at what a goon/guru he was.
    It is so beyond belief to me that there is still such a following and that Ron is cashing in on his legacy. It’s clear that Ron has no god other than the one between
    his ears and he has no fear of any kind of judgment. I hope things will work out for you.

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Ceil, I feel for you, as one that has been there. My marriage was destroyed. PKG made him an elder also, only confirming in his mind how right he was, how wrong I was. I tried for three years, but the verbal abuse got worse, then the physical abuse started. When I called Johnny H, and Laura, they told me it was my problem, they didn’t have time for it, and hung up. They didn’t care he was cheating on me, drinking like a fish either. As long as the money came from him, he was able to stay. I locked him out of the house, told him to come back when he was sober. He called the police, thinking I would be asked to leave, cause I wouldn’t let him in. I told the police to take a breathalyzer test on him. He was way over, took him. DA pushed charges. Last time he was in the house. I finally had to get a restraining order on him, cause he broke into the house.

    Overit: be careful, once the verbal abuse doesn’t give him the high he craves, the physical will start.

  • Debbie says:

    Ceil – I feel for you and your situation – None of us can change other people – we can only change ourselves. Marriage is between two people and only those two can make the decisions of what shape that marriage takes. Some people are able to ‘dwell peaceably’ with their PKG spouse & some cannot – depends on the people involved.

    Since 2008 different ones have posted here regarding the breakdown of their relationship/marriage as the result of their spouse being involved in PKG – Ronnie, Laura & co. speak the words that their god is building family etc. however, the posters who come here tell such a differing story – like yours – of estrangement & distancing of their spouse from their marriages & their families/friends. I don’t believe I have read one post where being a member of Ronnie’s PKG has strengthened a members ties with family/friends unless they are part of the cult as well. Short answer is that belonging to this cult requires one to turn one’s back on the vows taken and the responsibilities of being a husband/wife in favour of having a place in Ronnie’s ‘faux family’ – and the members are required to show the level of their dedication by the amount of $$$ they give to Ronnie & Laura.

    As you post you have little knowledge of the mindset of those involved in this cult you may read up on these posts & other info re: religious cults etc. Educate yourself, so that you are able to make informed decisions should the time come.

  • Randy says:

    Ron and Laura are working for Satan, not God they are tearing down and ruining families just to make money, just like Ron stayed a his info was wrong because Satan gave it to him, he still is giving him info, a good man of God would what to help Famillies not destroy them !!!

  • Acts says:

    Revelation 2
    I know your works, and your labor, and your patience, and how you can not bear them which are evil: AND YOU HAVE TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES , AND ARE NOT, AND HAVE FOUND THEM LIARS

    9
    and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. 10Fear none of those things which you shall suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that you may be tried; and you shall have tribulation ten days

    God Uses False prophets and False teachers to test people.

    14But I have a few things against you, because you have there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication( FALSE DOCTRINE IS A MAJOR STUMBLING BLOCK!)

    because you suffer that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication,(Against God with false doctrine) and to eat things sacrificed to idols. 21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searches the reins and hearts: and I will give to every one of you according to your works.

  • Acts says:

    PKG Has committed fornication and Adultery against Gods Word, they all will end up paying a Price.

  • FedUp says:

    Martin,

    I noticed the “years down the road” comment, too. Wonder if his followers picked up on it? Can’t wait to see how he spins this into the rest of his twisted fantasy. Are we to consider this an official prophecy? Come on, Ron! We’re all waiting! You’re destroying marriages over this crap, so let’s get our prophetic ducks in a row. Maybe your new prophet, Audra, can help you sort things out.

    Has the prophetic scenario changed again, Ronny? Is this “new truth”? Explain it to us. Tell us how our eternal salvation depends upon believing in you. Tell the wounded spouses of your blind followers how another 20 or 30 years fits into the story you concocted. You’re nothing but a filthy liar and a con man.

  • Debbie says:

    Overit posted –

    Being from “gods only true church” he has made so many poor choices and is ruined financially. I can’t believe he would behave in this manner and lie, steal, and have an affair while in Gods true church. The most amazing part of it all is he can find ways in his head to justify everything….can’t wait to get rid of him and his craziness, after 30 years. I hope he reads this cuz I am so done!!!

    Overit – I feel for you as well and your difficult situation. I really have to wonder about these PKG spouses who so readily and easily make the choice to detach from their spouses & children – Yes, Ronnie & Laura provide quotes from the bible to justify these actions – but the PKGers willingly do it – especially with regard to long term relationships. Another example how Ronnie & Laura cherry pick from the bible then twist the meanings to cover up their own wrong doings.

    My opinion – I would be asking myself ‘why is my spouse believing & acting upon rules given by a complete stranger (god included)’ rather than honouring their vows of commitment to the marriage which is legal & binding in the eyes of god & state (so the marriage vows go) – leaves me to deduct that PKGer had already drifted from their commitment to their marriage/family relationship. The marriage is no longer meeting their needs and they have found something else that does meet their needs. It may seem more complex than this, but to me this is the bottom line.

    PKGers have already ‘put away their unbelieving spouses’ – they may say with their heads & hearts they are following God – that is how they justify their actions to themselves. When a PKGer chooses to avoid financial responsibility to their spouse/family, they are using the same foundation of excuses used by Ronnie when he avoids his financial responsibility to pay taxes on his financial increases/incomes. Ronnie has taught them well by word & example.

    Ronnie has been able to ‘dupe’ these PKGers into believing all manners of his craziness – Ronnie’s bottom line is the perpetuation of the family business & the family business income – which his calls god’s true church.

  • Apparently, the Weinlands support alcoholism to enforce role reversal where the minister becomes the spouse and the spouse becomes… nothing.

  • Byker Bob says:

    I can’t believe what I’m reading sometimes! Cuss like a sailor (at your wife, no less!), drink like a fish, even bring an STD home from the feast, but be sure to keep the sabbath and look forward to Ron’s latest prophecy revision. This is exactly what happens when your fearless leader declares himself as a Biblical character like a prophet, apostle, or one of the two witnesses. Cause and effect.

    BB

  • FedUp says:

    Fascinating. On the one hand, you have men treating their wives like trash at home. On the other, you have women in the church placed in authority over men, in roles that are traditionally limited to males in the COGs.

    Anyone want to take a stab at the psychology here?

  • bilbo says:

    What is being described here sounds very similar to what happens when there are drug addictions in the family.

    http://www.elementsbehavioralhealth.com/behavioral-process-addictions/can-religion-be-an-addiction/

    I can see how one might want to stay for the fraternity, fellowship, and brain reward of feeling in with God, and sunk cost/time fear, but what is being described does sound like it has reached destructive addictive levels.

    Ever increasing amounts of the drug are need to have the same satisfaction. Witness the similarities. Now Ron is handing out titles of Prophet. That is freebase level bullshit. Strong delusion indeed.

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland has said on his blog (I’ve quoted them before)

    1) Ron “we can not see” (the future)

    A prophet is one who sees the future, so Ron is basically saying *he is blind*, a blind prophet is a false prophet.
    So you have a blind man leading a group of blind people.

    2) The PKGers are the one who suffer the 5 months of plague.

    The bible says only those WITHOUT the Holy Spirit receive this plague.
    So basically Ron has stated that his church is without the Holy Spirit.

    So FROM RON’S OWN MOUTH, he has declared he is a blind prophet and he and his followers don’t have the Holy Spirit.

    Why can’t PKGers SEE what he writes??? Don’t they notice when he says these things????
    (the actual quotes from Ron can be found here with searching, as Ron deletes or hides these posts after a while)

  • martin says:

    (that is Ron deletes or hides these blog posts on his site, the entire blog posts are re-posted on this site for reference)

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    As long as these people have a group for support, they will never change. In their minds they are not the wrong ones, those that don’t attend the “church” are the wrong ones. There have been a couple of post where Ron was even telling PKG, if your spouse is not in the church you are living with Satan, therefore you need to flee Satan. Basically telling people to leave their mates. It is a way for Ron to divide and contour. Once you separate and make them believe family is bad for you, follow me instead, they are lost to their mates, children, homes, jobs, etc…Soon he will be telling them to move to a certain area, (commune) where we can all be together and have peace. He already tells them you can’t have peace in the world or home unless they are a part of PKG. Ron will not be happy until he has total control. Even then he will not be, so will have to come up with some new truths. Ron has these people believing they are “so special”, nothing will penetrate their minds, but that additive drug.

  • Anyone want to take a stab at the psychology here?

    Pretty much the entire DSM-5.

  • juror bags says:

    OH MY!

    Just when it was getting a little dull around here Captain Voodoo pulls some more “Truly Amazing and Truly Awesome” sh!t out of his Magic 8 Ball! Shake it to the left,, shake it to the right….. I thought lil’ Ronnie was grounded from that thing. Evidently he can turn a #2 pencil into a magic wand as well so he has now officially replaced his lost wand. Mad skills! Special talents! Still waiting to see the fire breathing horse shit… I won’t hold my breath.

    I told everyone here from day one that Audra was a GUILTY MONEY GRUBBING WHORE JUST LIKE MOMMY DEAREST. Well, looky here, she is now also a $$$ PROFIT $$$. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! (wiping tears from my eyes and stomach hurts from the laughter) OINK, OINK! Hi PIG! Audrass always has been about the cash and a co-conspirator just like brother Jeremy and Mommy Dearest, but now it is PKG official! Whatever the hell that might be????? It’s another official LIE. All hail the young dumb WHORE! Oops! Did I just say that. Did daddy the FELON get you a new FAKE PKG name tag too? You know, so everyone knows that your a PROFIT now.The THIRD PROFIT just got a serious promotion. Mommy and Daddy’s little girl. AWWW, how cute. Guess she figured out she couldn’t survive on a stripper pole too. PIGLET! Hugs and kisses on your new make believe job in the CULT, Skank! Go F___ yourself!

    Looks like they are running out of options quickly. Drastic measures must be taken. Silent Jeremy also can’t man up and pull his head away from the nasty bitch’s tit either. THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN PRISON. PERIOD!! Looks like Ron suddenly found some very special #2 pencils floating around Club Fed and he is shaking those #2 magic wands turning dipshits into biblical figures. Nah, there is difference between a prophet and a $$$ PROFIT $$$! I guess he might have a special gift from God. Nah, IT IS STILL ALL BULL SHIT, LIES, & MAKING MONEY WHILE DESTROYING PEOPLE AND FMILIES! Guess he is caving in from the pressures of his whores and taking it up his toothless sh!t spewing, lying mouth ( Mr. Brown Eye his ass ) from Bubba.

  • juror bags says:

    This reminds me of some old 8-track or cassette tape. The one that keeps getting caught up in the broken player and rewound with a pencil or something to play again ALL MESSED UP.

    CRANK IT UP, DJ RON! Play that funky music! Play that funky music til ya die! Party on!

  • juror bags says:

    Now, aside from calling conniving sacks of Con-Artist CULT shit,,,,,,,,,,, conniving sacks of Con-Artist CULT shit, I do feel sorry for what looks like some MORE broken marriages and families. Very disheartening and this is exactly the abuse that makes me speak so highly of ALL of the Weinlands. I HATE EVERY ONE OF THEM! Then you can throw in the beating little old ladies on fixed incomes out of God’s money, destroying 401K’s, bank accounts, lives in general, the abuse, brain washing, neglect, and on down the list.

    All for what, you might ask? IT IS SO ALL OF THE WEINLANDS CAN LIVE A LIFE OF LUXURY AT OTHER’S EXPENSE! Nothing more, nothing less. FACT! Nothing about religion. Nothing about a witch hunt (lil Ronnie, you are a CON MAN) You are a FELON! 5 times over! Your government is not persecuting you and your F’ed up CULT. You cheated on YOUR PERSONAL INCOME TAXES REPEATEDLY IN A BIG WAY! You are in jail for being a LYING, DISHONEST, OVERLY GREEDY, SCUMBAG! Nothing more,,,,, Nothing less. I hope you die in prison you prick! You deserve to. So does the rest of your GUILTY ass family!

  • martin says:

    Don’t prophets prophesy? How is it that Ron can appoint *anybody* to be a prophet and they don’t prophesy a thing?

    Look at Moses’ 10 prophecies ….explicit down the line with everything.
    1) explicit timing (it will occur today or the next day)
    2) explicit description of plague
    3) explicit as to whom plague will fall on

    All 10 plagues prophesied to fall on Egypt occurred exactly as spoken by a true prophet of God.

    What is Ron’s batting average? A big fat zero. Nothing happened like he said.

    And the hilarity of Ron trying to spin it and spin it when the prophecy failed, to try and make it work…..a big fat zero there too.

  • Randy says:

    Amen Bags

  • charlie says:

    FedUp says: Anyone want to take a stab at the psychology here?

    not even Dr Phil could help ron ..this man is total DELUSIONAL….sad thing is he actually believes all the swill he spouts forth and no doubt the few who are left still believe ron was persecuted not prosecuted…( BIG difference )..and yes i have personally seen families torn apart as a result…CULT>>CULT>>CULT…nothing we can say will make it any better ..each person has to come to thier own conclusions ….hope and pray they will

  • charlie says:

    for juror bags …at the trial did the jury consider the other weinlands as co conspirators ?..or were they allowed to ?..after all they were in it as deep as ron was ..he was just the front man …i wasnt there and this is only my two cents worth …but they all should have been convicted …

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I attended the sentencing hearing. Judge Reeves said he considered Laura to be an equal co conspirator with Ron, but he didn’t think Audra was part of the conspiracy. Unfortunately Laura wasn’t on trial. Or maybe it is fortunate, maybe more have left PKG because she’s in charge.

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Maybe with the titles floating around now, the government will reconsider and go after the rest of the family? With the titles it proves they are all in the SCAM together.

  • Acts says:

    Is Ron able to View this site in Prison ?

  • Acts says:

    I would assume Internet access would not be allowed . Just wanted to see if anyone knows for sure.

  • Rotten Ronnie is well aware this blog exists and probably read it regularly before he went to prison (with such an ego, how could he not?).

    He just doesn’t know how much fun we’re having dissing him right now.

    His destroying marriages though, he really needs to suffer for that… there just aren’t words… in any language to describe what a selfish bastard bottom feeder he is.

    At least I don’t know any (I was tested in college as being in the 99th percentile of vocabulary — a lot of good it does me in this situation).

    Insane lying rotten selfish false prophet convicted felon con psychopath is the best I can do for now. Maybe I can look into inventing new words… religious psychocon?

  • Acts says:

    Laura , Bear Witness to The Truth for a change
    2 Peter 2
    1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privately shall bring in damnable heresies,(1st and 2nd Commandment) even denying the Lord that bought them, (3rd Commandment )and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness (10th Commandment) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

    HERESIES! Ron makes his Daughter a Prophet ? The man makes himself God ! I rest my case. The Truth is you have Broken all The Commandments ! Every single one of them! The Sabbath as well, By speaking your own Words . No sign of Repentance yet . Destruction is coming like a Thief .

    Proverbs 29:1
    He who is often reproved, yet stiffens his neck, will suddenly be broken beyond healing.

    Psalm 111:10
    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments

    Jeremiah 8:9
    The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: see, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?

    REPENT ! The time is coming soon when it will be too late.

  • Acts says:

    Laura , That is The Bible , The Word . Do you remember that ? Now I must give you Warning on something you may have not thought of

    Exodus 11
    1 And the LORD said to Moses, Yet will I bring one plague more on Pharaoh, and on Egypt; afterwards he will let you go hence: when he shall let you go, he shall surely thrust you out hence altogether.

    4 And Moses said, Thus said the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the middle of Egypt: 5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sits on his throne, even to the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts. 6 And there shall be a great cry throughout all the land of Egypt, such as there was none like it, nor shall be like it any more.

    Revelation 9
    6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

    Ezekiel 18:23
    Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? said the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

    REPENT!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ron is not allowed to access the Internet while in prison. The closest thing he has to it is TRULINCS, a monitored sort of email.

  • Randy says:

    You can bet the money whore reads it and let’s him know what’s she loves to gossip !

  • Ozymandias says:

    Ron knows about all the blogs and websites. Drove him crazy. To think that there was something which he had zero control over. People talking about him that he couldn’t threaten with disfellowshipment was rough. Blah , blah , blah was all he could say. Go fishing! Get a life . Drove him nuts.

  • Ronco says:

    Happy October 21st!

    Today is the 3rd anniversary since Harold Camping’s ‘end of the end’ date, and tomorrow marks 170 years since William Miller’s Great Disappointment of 1844.

  • Randy says:

    I can’t believe I took that asshole fishing and Ron you are the only asshole who doesn’t have a life, we on here have great life and like to stop asshole money and power hungry people for tearing up other people’s life you are right where you belong in Fedral prison crook and you have no control over me I would love to bitch smack your little coward punk ass !!!!!!!!!!!

  • Randy says:

    I’m not like the PKG members you fool me once but not twice ! Asshole

  • Randy says:

    Or 3-4-5 times lol

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ozy said

    Ron knows about all the blogs and websites. Drove him crazy. To think that there was something which he had zero control over. People talking about him that he couldn’t threaten with disfellowshipment was rough. Blah , blah , blah was all he could say. Go fishing! Get a life . Drove him nuts.

    I’ve heard him say things of that nature in sermons. Don’t recall him saying that sort of thing before acknowledging the failure of his death curse.

    Did you ever hear him grumble about this outside of a sermon?

  • Ozymandias says:

    I only heard him say things in sermons, but Laura mentioned it once in a while. They could forbid us and chastise us for reading it but they had no control over the rest of you. In the beginning (long before I left) I could see much anger and hatred on the part of some writing on the blog. Some didn’t even know him. It didn’t help me in leaving. What really helped me was the bold face truth of what he had done, his many failed prophesies and his totally arrogance and lack of repentance for all of it. I finally came to feel that Ron was his own worst enemy and nothing any of you could do could top what he had done to himself. You could call him names but he was the self fulfilling prophet of what was said. Certainly none of you could cause him to do any of it by prophesying . BTW, I found the death curses to be some of the many nails in Ron’s coffin. Real Christian people simply do not curse others to death. To me, that alone was the sign of a very sick mind. I can only imagine the grief this blog caused him. No control and no way to scare the hell out of any of you. I don’t agreed with everything that is espoused here but I certainly defend your right to believe anything you want. Christ will sort out any error when he arrives. And don’t think that Ron isn’t still looking forward to his death curse being enforced. For him it just hasn’t happened yet, but it’s something to look forward to. Ron’s prophesy may eventually be fulfilled but be careful what you pray for . The Lord says if you pray for rain on your neighbors land doesn’t it also rain on yours? The same may be true for curses.

  • martin says:

    In Ron’s world

    You can preach false prophecy after false prophecy and still be God’s true prophet

    You can tell a “truth”, then when that turns out false, tell a new “truth, and a new “truth”…..basically calling lies truth (it seems to work on PKGers)

    You can be caught stealing but you are not a thief you are being persecuted

    You can blaspheme and say Christ didn’t exist for all eternity and still be God’s apostle
    Ron, please explain when Christ says explicitly “I CAME FROM HEAVEN”, how he could not pre-exist?

    You can proclaim Christ’s Coming multiple times and fail multiple times and still be God’s servant

    You can calculate the actual Return “correctly” again (after multiple failures at this attempt), but your math got botched and you are wrong, and yet still be accurate in this incorrectly computed prediction even though the bible condemns numerology (as it is form of divination).

  • charlie says:

    wonder who the next true false prophet will be ..they are prophesied to come …and this was a prophecy from Jesus ..so we know it is true ..soon ( hopefully ) ron and company will go the way of the dodo bird

  • charlie says:

    not soon enough

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Many of those who expressed a great deal of anger had been injured by Ron either directly or indirectly via a friend or relative. I’ve been able to (mostly) keep an even temper because I’m not in that category. I let others express their anger because they have reason, but as far as convincing someone that following Ron is not the thing to do, it’s more effective to let the facts speak for themselves. And to try to present the facts. In the end, I think that most who’ve left Ron have eventually figured it out for themselves without this blog.

  • Acts says:

    1 Corinthians 10:21
    You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: you cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.

    Flee from IDOLATRY

    Notwithstanding I have a few things against you, because you suffer that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols.

    Has to do with what Table you eat from Spiritually .
    What Spirtual food you eat.

  • Acts says:

    Matthew 24
    37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be

    Eating and Drinking , Marrying and Giving in Marriage IDOLATRY !

    Malachi 2
    11Judah has dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah has profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and has married the daughter of a strange god

    Jeremiah 11:13
    For according to the number of your cities (Groups )were your gods, O Judah; and according to the number of the streets of Jerusalem have you set up altars to that shameful thing, even altars to burn incense to Baal.

    Ron and the Other Leaders have married a False Christ . They are all divided up each Christ is Different . They eat Food Sacrificed to idols and they drink the cup of demons . They all follow a False God. Many will be eating and drinking and Marrying when Christ comes like a Thief . Then their will be weeping and gnashing of Teeth !

    For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

    Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46″Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes

  • Acts says:

    21It is not everyone that says to me, ‘My Lord, my Lord”, who enters the Kingdom of Heaven, but whoever does the will of my Father who is in Heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, ‘My Lord, my Lord, have we not PROPHESIED in your name, and in your name have cast out demons, and have done many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then I will confess to them, ‘I have never known you, remove yourselves far from me, you workers of evil.’

  • Ozymandias says:

    Mike , you are correct, many of us left before we actually read the blog. However, just hearing from others in the same or near same boat has been invaluable. All of you who post here have a different take on the matter, and much of it has been a great help in moving along. I can understand things better from an outsiders point of view. I must say this to the many who are married to or have been married to members… being in Gods church should have made them better spouses not worse. There are no scriptures to justify ill treatment of a person because they’re not in the church. Actually it should be just the opposite. We should be a shinning example to that person of the tremendous love God has for us! Please don’t think faith in God is the problem. The problem lies in the fact that Ron attracts people like himself. People BETTER than others. Every sadist needs a masochist. They’re both perverts and both crazy. Thank you all for pouring out your lives and true feelings here on this blog. I know some of it hasn’t been pretty, or easy to share. I would love to think I am part of driving him nuts with the truth at this point.

  • bilbo says:

    The blog may not (and should not) be the sole deciding factor for an individual. But it is very helpful for people who see something wrong and decided to make the transition away from the cult.

    Reading these experiences and perspectives helps a person confirm their suspicions – that they are not crazy, that the pkg situation IS every bit as crazy as it seems.

    Reading the transitions of others that has left helps cushion the shock and self doubt.

    This blog is not a substitute for therapy, and thinking for oneself, but hearing that others see the same things you do, and having those conversations, is very helpful.

    Otherwise someone might see how cult that church is, but be too scared to leave because of self doubt or isolation.

  • Debbie says:

    From Ronnie’s post where he ‘protests too much’ that he is being persecuted by the government – clearly an indication he is not of the mindset of a repentant shepherd. Such is his arrogance, that he is also above the laws of US.

    Mike – Thanx for the great job of keeping this going – since DDTF in 2008 you have provided this space. For me, when I arrived, what a relief to no longer feel alone with ‘ being duped by a religious con man ‘. And through the years reading posts and rejoicing with those who broke free from Ronnie & PKG, many sharing how they have bettered their lives. Thank You.

    Actually, I am shocked that Ronnie & PKG are continuing this far down the road and all the failed prophecies and the failed fulfillment of the Two Witnesses laying dead in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 days. Then Ronnie is convicted of income tax evasion and is imprisoned. Those stoic followers have been tested & trialed to their limits – I think those followers in are in for life (short of Ronnie building a golden calf & then I am doubtful if they would leave).

  • bilbo says:

    Repentant person = “how may I address your concerns?” = no jail.

    Unrepentant person = “screw you I didn’t do nuthin'” = jail.

    NOT Paul. I repeat, Ron is NOT Paul, anymore than I’m next in line for Pope.

  • martin says:

    “Actually, I am shocked that Ronnie & PKG are continuing this far down the road and all the failed prophecies and the failed fulfillment of the Two Witnesses ”

    I do wonder if PKGers read their bibles at all?

    Can’t they tell when a prophecy has been fulfilled and when it has not been fulfilled???

    Can’t they tell when a person has been lying through his teeth for years?

    Apparently not.

  • martin says:

    There’s coming a time when prophecy will be fulfilled and it will be fulfilled just as the bible said.

    Do you know what will happen? Most won’t believe it. That’s the irony of it all.

    A person can tell a hundred failed prophecies and be God’s servant still….

    But if prophecy is fulfilled as it is written in the bible, people won’t believe it.

    When these Two Witnesses arrive….and perform miracles (ultimately breathing fire at some point), people will not believe them.

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    Ozy, Your right, religion should bring two people closer together. No matter what religion it is. Working at the nursing home I’ve had a chance to talk with many “ministers”. They all feel the same way, no matter if you both attend two different churches, it should still make your marriage stronger, not divide. Ron’s divides, which according to these “ministers” is a sign of a cult to them. I’ve had many interesting discussions with these people. I don’t believe in their teachings, but the basic is still the same in all the religions. Love God, then your mate, family, etc.. and it will work out. PKG is love God, but turn your back on mate and family. When I’ve told them some of the things Ron post or has said, they all agree on one thing, run, it’s a cult.

  • martin says:

    Ron says if you are married to an unbeliever you are married to Satan? The guy is a moron.

    There is a whole chapter or two or three on people married to mates who are unbelievers.

    It says if you are living peaceably with your mate then it is fine and to stay married to that mate, but if the mate is unhappy and wishes to depart to let them.

    Nothing about being married to Satan.

    * IT SHOULD BE PLAIN TO SEE THAT RONALD WEINLAND DOES NOT READ OR KNOW HIS BIBLE AT ALL *

  • Randy says:

    God says honor they Father and Mother, not just if the belong to PKG this little asshole he does not honor his own mother it’s all about power and money, I bet the money whore has nothing to do with her parents ether, when I here about all these family’s this asshole and his gossiping bitch ruin I get so sick to my stomach, just think of all the Childern out there that would love a great family no matter what relion they belong to or what they have just to be loved !!!! Bubba take care of business!!!!!

  • Randy says:

    You show your love and devotion to God by loving and respecting what God gave you and that’s family, not what some money hunger asshole and his gossiping bitch tells you look how messed up there family is no grandkids both kids live over sea’s and they don’t have nothing to do with there parent’s

  • Randy says:

    Oh and did I mention the father in prison what a dis functional family I bet Gods real proud of them .lol

  • Randy says:

    Oh and Divorce Prophets every family with Gods given nolige needs to be like that, glad mine ain’t !

  • Randy says:

    And no prophetsie he has prophetsized has happen in the last ten years ! Alls he did was destroyed family’s

  • Randy says:

    Money and power isn’t nothing asshole family and love is ever thing , I can she Joyce following them she has no family damn shame and I heard Laura call her stupid on the phone !

  • Ozymandias says:

    I’ll tell you Joyce is far from stupid, and is a very fine lady. She worked hard her whole life and nothing was handed to her. I hope Laura didn’t call her stupid because she has a far better education than Laura has and earned it through hard work.

  • Randy says:

    Don’t get me wrong I like Joyce, but I heard Laura call her that before all this started my mom used to keep the phone on speaker my mom was down there for the weekend and after she got home mom told her something Joyce said and Laura said that was stupid!!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    … and rather ungrateful considering that Joyce looks after their house when they travel. And Joyce put her own house up as bond so Ron could stay out of prison between his conviction and sentencing.

  • Randy says:

    I post this about Laura talking about Joyce in post about 3-4 years ago look in arkives

  • Randy says:

    Laura talked about Joyce , Mertal Wayne, and every one else I told my mom if she is gossiping about them you can bet she is about you to

  • Randy says:

    I agree Mike

  • Ozymandias says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to “you tube” all the foolishness Laura has put out just like you all did Ron! Not that any of them would listen.

  • Randy says:

    Amen Ozy
    They are putting there self out, and thinking God meant it that way but a real man takes care of his family not like Ron false and lying about marriage lience !

  • Ronco says:

    OK, Ron! The Feast is over so quit slacking off and get cracking with that #2 pencil. We need some new Present Truth!

  • charlie says:

    easy on there …its kinda difficult for ron to come up with some new truths what with being persecuted and all …but give him time ( no pun intended..they gave him time ..42 months worth )

    probably as soon as laura ( the woman behind the man …thats where he most likely gets ideas from and just calls it god ..the sheep will never notice )….as soon as she gets a sermon together and submitted to ron for “official ” approval…..wonder if the recent attack in canada will have anything to do with it

  • Acts says:

    Matthew 22
    So he sent other servants to tell them, ‘The feast has been prepared. The bulls and fattened cattle have been killed, and everything is ready. Come to the banquet!’ 5But the guests he had invited ignored them and WENT THEIR OWN WAY, one to HIS FARM, another to HIS BUSINESS.

    Ron goes to his Business , Pack goes to his Farm , and so do the other Leaders.

    Matthew 24:39
    and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40″Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41″Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.…
    Luke 17:36
    37And answering they said to Him, “Where, Lord?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered.”

    Proverbs 30:17
    The eye that mocks at his father,(GOD) and despises to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it.
    Revelation 19
    17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the middle of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together to the supper of the great God; 18That you may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

    Coming like a Thief . IT IS A MATTER OF THOSE THAT ARE WORKING RIGHTEOUSNESS AND THOSE THAT ARE WORKING UNRIGHTEOUSNESS WHEN HE RETURNS .

  • Acts says:

    Proverbs 1

    7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
    8My son, hear the instruction of your father, and forsake not the law of your mother:
    9For they shall be an ornament of grace to your head, and chains about your neck.

    CLEAN-UNCLEAN

    24Because I have called, and you refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
    25But you have set at nothing all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
    26I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear comes;
    27When your fear comes as desolation, and your destruction comes as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish comes on you.
    28Then shall they call on me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
    29For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
    30They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
    31Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.

    32For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them

    Matthew 12
    48But he answered and said to him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brothers? 49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brothers! 50For whoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

  • Acts says:

    Malachi 3
    18Then shall ye return and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

  • Ronco says:

    We’re still waiting for some more Present Truth, Ron… Get off your duff, dude!!!

  • juror bags says:

    Ronco,
    Easy now! Ron isn’t on his duff………….. Bubba has that covered! Looks as if Bubba was whispering in baldy’s lil’ ear late at night revealing that Audra would be the next $$ profit $$. That’s the only logical and likely way he’s getting any message in Club Fed.

    Bubba is God like in the big house. Ron is nothing more than a prison bitch. Go mop those floors, LOSER! Laura is probably rougher on her lil’ bitch than Bubba. It’s just a fling. It’s not gay love while your in the pokey is how the felons justify their dart playing games.

  • juror bags says:

    Hopefully Ron is getting passed around like a joint at a Greatful Dead show. NEXT! Ron’s probably smoking something in there and it’s not a cigarette or doobie.

  • Acts says:

    And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

    For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled

    http://www.cog-pkg.org/audio/download/interviews/TalkSport_Ed.mp3
    19 min mark , let’s notice

    Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

  • You will grasp that in a much, much, much deeper way ten, twenty, and thirty years down the road in ways you cannot truly fathom right now, just as I would not have been able to begin to fathom what I have been blessed to see and experience within only nine years after having a heart attack where I should have died as a false prophet.

    There’s still time….

  • Randy says:

    Ron going to keep money coming in for Laura and Aurdia , 10 -20-30 years he sure knew before it was Gods given message only to him because he was God’s Proghet , end time Witness , but nothing came true just the money keep pouring in and families keep falling apart, all the $1700 suits and all of Laura’s gold and Diamonds for Jerrets and yes it’s on court documents!

  • Randy says:

    Why should Audria be a Prophet what’s does she bring to the table, Greg Chips brings a lot more, but the money will not stay in the family that way !!!! Greg is not in prison, his wife is not a gossiper! I have more cadensails than she does and I cant spell

  • Randy says:

    Like I told mom you need to do fact checks ask Ron and Laura why none of this prophets happen and why are you say it’s still going to happen but they are all so afraid of them read your bibles and ask God not these money Hungary people God will lead you not Ron and Laura

  • Acts says:

    Hebrews 6
    4It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. 7Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. 8But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.

    Hosea 10:8
    The high places of wickedness will be destroyed– it is the sin of Israel. Thorns and thistles will grow up and cover their altars. Then they will say to the mountains, “Cover us!” and to the hills, “Fall on us!”

    Matthew 7
    15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

    19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

    Revelation 8:7
    The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast on the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up

  • PKG members don’t seem to care how offensive they are to God by following the spawn of Satan.

    He has to be extremely disappointed in them all for ignoring Him and turning away to make the Weinlands idols to supplant Him in their lives.

    They have literally pushed God out of their lives to espouse lies, delusions and deceptions — to follow an evil man who is a lying convicted felon as well as being a false prophet.

    As long as they turn away from God, they can not have redemption.

    In the scheme of things, they have no complaint coming as they find themselves abandoned in their hour of suffering because they chose this.

  • Acts says:

    Jeremiah 2
    For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

    Proverbs 24
    30I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;
    31And, see, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down.
    32Then I saw, and considered it well: I looked on it, and received instruction.
    33Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
    34So shall your poverty come as one that travels; and your want as an armed man.

  • martin says:

    It’s hard to come up with new lies….

    I guess I’m in the wrong business. I never knew being a false prophet could be so lucrative.

    The key is to sound convincing. You could say anything, if you’re convincing you can get away with anything practically.

    There are kooks who say they are Jesus. I heard on kook in Brooklyn I think, who said he was the anti-christ. It’s ironic as he runs a “christian” church.

    As long as you’re convincing.

  • Randy says:

    I feel so save know Audria is a prophet she is so smart and knows her bible so good, glad I have nothing to worry about with Laura , Jerrime, and Ron in prison , we should not have to send money with these great people in charge God put them there and he will take care !! Lol

  • Randy says:

    I bet she knows her bible all the way trough, and her Mariages too , everyone says she was a wild child !

  • Randy says:

    Hey money whore Jarretts got a sale on gold !

  • Randy says:

    adria rocks the prophet so smart and knows the bible in and out , get her a new BMW please !!!!!

  • Swooncologne says:

    I think its time for some folk to really start pursuing some tithe refunds in a court of law all its takes is one person how hard could it be his last legal team fell apart like a Mr Potato Head the last time haha ron is squirming coming up with new things to say and is the most antisocial profit ever!! if his father were alive he would be ashamed I know his mother is ;X audra is burnt out from all the control from her parents ive seen jeremy literally flinch when someone put out their hand to introduce themselves paranoia much? there are really really great people and families(children being the collateral damage) that are getting taken advantage of to bad the weinlands only see dollar signs or it would of hit them by now. I mean from the uk to the us to australia and back around people are leaving Juror bag keep throwing around the insults at these douche cocks priceless entertainment 🙂

  • Randy says:

    All week all I can think about is the lady saying her husband gave $10,000.00 in tightes and they needed it . And the rest of the families they tore apart .

  • Acts says:

    Habakkuk 2

    6Shall not all these take up their taunt against him, with scoffing and riddles for him, and say,

    “Woe to him who heaps up what is not his own—
    for how long?—
    and loads himself with pledges!”
    7Will not your debtors suddenly arise,
    and those awake who will make you tremble?
    Then you will be spoil for them.
    8Because you have plundered many nations,
    all the remnant of the peoples shall plunder you,
    for the blood of man and violence to the earth,
    to cities and all who dwell in them.

    9“Woe to him who gets evil gain for his house,
    to set his nest on high,
    to be safe from the reach of harm!
    10You have devised shame for your house
    by cutting off many peoples;
    you have forfeited your life.

    11For the stone will cry out from the wall,
    and the beam from the woodwork respond.

    12“Woe to him who builds a town with blood
    and founds a city on iniquity!

    16You will have your fill of shame instead of glory.

  • Ozymandias says:

    If Audra and Jeremy are so “burnt out” they should get another line of work.(Like they work at all) Jeremy may flinch at the thought of shaking another lowly hand but his hand is out fast enough for his pay check. Don’t be fooled by these two. They’re in as deep in as their parents. Ron only shakes your hand because he has to. Laura is far friendlier but then she shares all the info she collects. The Weinland family is above others, but must mingle among the proletariat occasionally. This attitude must have rubbed off on the children. And remember Audra didn’t turn down the prophet position. They are every bit as guilty as their parents. Audra is well into her 30s and there is no excuse at this point. They know exactly what’s going on.

  • Ozymandias says:

    BTW, kudos to anyone leaving the sinking SS Weinland. Let’s hope it’s a ghost ship in another year.

  • Randy says:

    Amen Ozy
    Mom got home from church last night and ran in grabbed the phone to report to Joyce, I hate to think she is part of all these families falling apart ! 🙁
    Audria and Jerrime are in it all the way they love the money to the whole Weindland family mafia is in it they are not trapped they can walk.

  • martin says:

    Ron is a liar, a thief, a spiritual murderer, a false prophet, a false apostle, a false teacher, a hedonist, a lazy bum, and a gambler.

  • But at least he’s not gay.

    So far as we know….

  • Jocko says:

    Just when you thought it couldn’t get any crazier in PKG land=It Actually Does!!! So let me see if I understand what just happened.

    First off. Ron says he’s blessed to be confined inside a federal penitentiary for the past two years. Even though Ron gets to compare himself to numerous biblical characters inside prison I don’t buy it. We all know he’d much rather be traveling first class around the world spending other people’s money while wearing his $1700.00 suit then be sitting in a federal prison cell in Indiana wearing an orange prison uniform so please cut the crap Ron.

    Secondly. Hillbilly Harrell and Laura the Gossip Queen have ordained Myrtle Harrell to the rank of Pastor. And this type of Pastor has the authority to give rebuke and correction when necessary, but does not have the authority to give sermons over men. (Not yet anyway) Aren’t pastors supposed to have some type of formal training though an organization such as a bible college or seminary school?

    Third. Last month Ron the insane lying false prophet and five time convicted felon along with Laura the silent witness and Queen of Gossip ordained Audra to the rank of prophet. I can’t help but wonder if this ordination took place on visitors day within the confines of the federal penitentiary in Indiana. And if so who were the witnesses? Federal corrections officers or Bubba and the boys?

    I don’t know about you but my understanding has always been that the Lord O Mighty was the only Being in the universe with the authority to turn a human being into a prophet of God. Anyone who believes otherwise will probably believe just about anything the Weinlands tell them.

  • martin says:

    “I don’t know about you but my understanding has always been that the Lord O Mighty was the only Being in the universe with the authority to turn a human being into a prophet of God. ”

    This is the biblical position.

    You will not find any scripture to the contrary. From Genesis to Revelation ONLY GOD appoints a prophet.

    The Two Witnesses are called MY (that is God’s) Two Witnesses. They are His, as he appoints them both.

  • martin says:

    As only God appoints a prophet, and Ron has taken it upon himself to appoint a prophet on his own authority, the man is then usurping God’s sovereign authority.

    Ronald Weinlnad thus is an anti-Christ.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Jocko, Ron is using his prison sentence to try to make himself look persecuted. The pkgers that are left are fooled into thinking he is “just like Paul”. Ron is trying to use his situation to his advantage. The church is filled with a lot of old people at this point and many of them from old Worldwide . They WANT to believe him. They don’t want to have wasted their lives on a bunch of charlatans . I feel for them, as it took me a long time to get it through my thick head. Ron will never cut the crap because it’s working for him. He only promoted Myrtle because he wanted to make Audra a prophet. Prophets that don’t prophesy and Pastors that don’t preach. It’s the ” let’s keep all the money and power in the family promo. Jeremy is in the wings for it too, believe me. Ron always does I something but doesn’t mention it right away. ” Shes been a prophet for over a month now, and Jeremy has BEEN a full time employee ” for a couple of years now”. Ron is a sneaky man. He never lets his right hand know what the left is doing for a reason. Everything he does has ulterior motives. He is surrounding himself with non preaching pastors and prophets so he will still be the only one at the top GOD IS SPEAKING TO. Everyone else is a SILENT prophet , witness , and pastor. People will remain fooled by all of this because they’re old and tired.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Randy, think about what I said about most of the people left being old and tired. Think about the ones you have met in your Moms area. It’s hard to change when all of your spiritual support comes from people in the same boat as you. If they leave, they leave their support group. Ron and Laura are nothing but a bad habit, and bad habits are hard to break.

  • Randy says:

    Amen Ozy
    No kids she must have read this she is on phone with mom now !!! Bitch

  • martin says:

    As Oz said…prophets that don’t prophesy, pastors that don’t preach, witnesses that are silent…..

    How can PKGers see this and not recognize the lunacy of it all?

  • So Sas says:

    Got in a disagreement with a friend that is still in PKG……she wont read the trial transcripts because that may cloud her thinking!!!! Geez!! Additionally she says that Ron is being persecuted for preaching the word of God thru his church, talk about being gullible, brainwashed and just plain stupid!!!! It is really a sad situation that seems to be getting more absurd, he will stop at nothing. He’s keeping all in the family! So tell me this what has Audra done in or for the church that she is “prophet” material???

    And Ron you were not sent to prison for serving God’s church, you were sent for spending money that was not yours to spend on lavish items. I understand as a preacher/pastor/prophet/apostle/3rd in the realm ; God, Christ then Ron (did I miss anything?) you are entitled to live, have a house, eat, wear clothes, etc…. but to take money from people who believe they are doing the right thing and spending it on things that don’t jive with your reported income is a major SIN…. thou shall not steal….thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor…..isn’t that what you have done all along???? You should be so ashamed of yourself. Countless people have gone without so you could live the life style of a wealthy man. where is your sack cloth??

  • Ozymandias says:

    They have a fear of losing something. The fear of losing their place at the table. The “fear” of going back into the world. Their faith is not in God to guide them but rather in Ron to save them from the world.They don’t realize that they cannot lose God Almighty ! He says he will NEVER leave us! Ron has convinced them that they can be cast away, and this is what they fear. Fear of going it alone in the world with no one to guide them. When more of them realize it’s only Ron casting them out and NOT God Almighty maybe more will wake up. He has set himself up in the place of God, but he has no power at all. He is a weak man and his ” message” is getting weaker all the time. Some who are truly fearful will stay no matter what, but one day there will be more that will see Ron and Laura for the charlatans that they are. He has made friends and elders out of many and they stay for that reason alone. They won’t see that he is dreadfully wrong because they ” love” Ron and Laura. They have made themselves blind with ” love” for a man rather then searching for the truth of God. This is the sad story of mankind from the beginning of time. We would rather be the friend of man than the friend of God. The Children of Israel proved this. Even Adam and Eve chose each other over God. We follow along in the footsteps of our ancestors and are always enmity with God. We thought the COGS were different but they are just like every false religion on Earth, always putting a idol before God.

  • Ozymandias says:

    His sack cloth is in a fine leather suitcase in the trunk of his BMW, parked in the driveway of his house on the golf course. LOL

  • bilbo says:

    “Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” –Mark Twain

    “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” –Mark Twain

  • Called To Blessing says:

    The reason the people stay is because they like to be flattered with these positions in the church. Nothing but appealing to their ego. And he ropes them in like a spider weaving a web. Quite shameful behavior from Ron and Laura and his user children. They have always been this way since they were little. They were born into entitlement and their mindset is one of feeling deserved. Ron and Laura raised them both to be this way. They didn’t like the fawning when they were younger and they rebelled. But eventually they had to realize where the paycheck was coming from and do some lowly handshaking and conversing with the peasants. Audra was better as she got older but Jeremy never has made any bones about where he wanted to be and how he felt about the people. Always a cut above the rest and way over in Europe.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Bilbo thou art a wise Hobbit. LOL

  • bilbo says:

    Not me, Mr.Clemens. Wise, I am not. Having got tangled up with Ron should be proof of that 🙂 But by the grace of God I get to live to try another day!

  • Acts says:

    2 Timothy 4:3
    Preach THE WORD ; be ready in season and out of season; REPROVE , REBUKE, EXORT, with great patience and instruction. 3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their OWN DESIRES , 4and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths

    That time has come.

  • Acts says:

    Romans 16:18
    For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.

    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ron+weinland&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=79653240742F97BAAA677F485018D43ECEF325B7&selectedIndex=84

    For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

  • Acts says:

    The Image of The Beast.

  • Acts says:

    Genesis 1:26
    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

    2 Corinthians
    13 For these are false Apostles and treacherous workers and they liken themselves to the Apostles of The Messiah. 14 And not to wonder at this, for if he who is Satan resembles an Angel of light, 15 It is not a great matter if also his Ministers imitate Ministers of righteousness, those whose end will be like their works.

    Satan’s Counterfeit.

    Daniel 11:32
    He will flatter and win over those who have violated the covenant. But the people who know their God will be strong and will resist him.

  • Randy says:

    Something’s UP !!!

  • martin says:

    It’s been over a month since that lazy bum wrote anything.

    Maybe they have him working overtime over there at the jail pruning tree branches or something.

  • Randy says:

    Haha Martin
    That lazy bastard couldn’t rake leaves ! Just knows how to reack families!

  • Randy says:

    To the person who said there PKG friend won’t read the court transcripts tell them about Laura loaning the old lady from Wisconsin $3,000 to move down by her and when she payed it back to Laura she put it in her own personal a count ! Real nice Proghet and great theif!!!!!! Bitch and show them how much money was spent at Jarretts in Cinny ! Asked them why does Ron need $1700 suit and a lot of his congregation have nothing and they Paid for Jerrime collage fund ! How can anybody follow this pigs !

  • martin says:

    I keep hearing about PKGers being afraid to leave.

    They should be afraid to stay, because the bible says they will fall into the same “pit” that the blind false prophets fall into.

  • Randy says:

    They say the end time people will be humble, belive me Ron and LauraWeinland are not humble like I said before I can show you all the hundreds of $ she spent on my mom to buy her !

  • Randy says:

    The main word the bible says humble and the weinlands are not humble folks , sorry 🙂

  • Randy says:

    It’s money to keep there family going , make it a board of Derictor and watch the money flow !

  • martin says:

    “Yes, brethren, I have been so exceedingly blessed. You, too, have been exceedingly blessed. You will grasp that in a much, much, much deeper way ten, twenty, and thirty years down the road”

    ….because that’s how long he’s going to make fools of such willing victims….

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    I feel sorry for these people, yet in another way, they are all adults and following right along. Therefore what happens to them, I don’t feel sorry for them

  • Acts says:

    Proverbs 28:2
    When a land transgresses, it has many rulers

  • Ozymandias says:

    Acts, that’s so you can have partners in crime. Others to share the guilt when the time comes. A friend said , Ron “lifted the curse on women” only to put another one on them. Now, they are all guilty of Ron’s crimes. Many hands make light work. A way to have people cover for you.

  • Acts says:

    He dug a pit for his whole Family .
    4
    Those who forsake the law praise the wicked,
    but those who keep the law strive against them.

    10 Whoever misleads the upright into an evil way
    will fall into his own pit,

  • Acts says:

    But there are other Rulers just like him.

  • Acts says:

    Ron is under a curse, if he could only understand.

    3:33
    The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesses the habitation of the just.

  • They have a fear of losing something. The fear of losing their place at the table.

    Table? Table?!!

    You mean trough, don’t you?

  • It’s too bad the members don’t know the difference between persecution and prosecution.

    Too many syllables, I guess.

  • martin says:

    It is interesting to see Ron produce this “divinely” inspired numerological prediction for the Return of Christ in 2019 (despite the math being wrong) .

    So that FOR SURE Christ is coming in 2019, and yet he keeps dropping hint bombs here and there saying that it will probably not occur and that we most like will be around for the next 30 years.

  • Randy says:

    Ron better hope Christ don’t come back for 30 years gives him more time to sell his BS and keep the Weinland family income to keep coming !

  • Ozymandias says:

    Last year when Ron said Audra had been ” in on” helping choose the feast sermons, and rattled on about how valuable her insight was I knew something was afoot. Ron is one cunning fellow. Always a master plan up his sleeve. It took him a whole year , but he finally got around to his ta da moment. We knew he had a plan but this prophet idea is priceless. “Raise up” Myrtle so he can make Audra a prophet. What will he think of next? Jeremy a pastor now that he has given a sermon? It may be too obvious to make him a prophet at this point, but don’t discount it for the future. Ron is a big old snake in the grass, even more than other preachers. There are worldly preachers with far more integrity than Ron will ever have. He even makes the big money preachers look good. They’re obvious, but he is cunning and sneaky.There will be more in the future, as much as the poor little PKGers can take. He will feed their ego and they will feed his wallet.

  • Randy says:

    Amen Ozy

  • Jocko says:

    Interesting comments Ozy. A while back didn’t Audra have something to say about certain members holding back on their tithes and then requesting feast assistance funds? Her heart is definitely in the right place.

    And yes after half a sermon Jeremy should definitely be raised up to pastor. After all you need somebody to be in line for pastor generalship should Ron decide to retire one day and move his operations to Las Vegas.

    Entertainment in Sin City doesn’t come cheap thee days. Both the slot machines and blackjack tables need to be fed not to mention the cost for Blue Man Group show theatre tickets and deep tissue messages. As proven by the trial transcripts and jurors comments we all know there’s plenty of cash to go around. How many millions was it again that they go through in just a few years time???

  • juror bags says:

    Jocko,
    It was $4.5 million. They blew it as fast as it was coming in. That is how they were caught. They were reported by one of their many banks due to the large amounts of money coming in and rapidly leaving their bank account. It was non-stop vacationing, shopping, home purchases, BMW purchases with drivers training while on vacation in Germany and over seas BMW shipping in opposite directions. RIDICULOUS!

    Too many expensive jewelry buying sprees to remember, trips to Vegas, non-stop fine dining daily, cruise ships, massages, high dollar suits, first class airline tickets, personal expenses paid for ALL four of these scum bags and the list just snowballs! They were living it up and blowing more cash than out of control hard partying coke head and drug riddled rock stars. The Queen and Princess PIG Wenches probably blew thousands at Victoria’s Secret alone within months. Probably never washed their $30 XL panties but threw them away and bought new ones weekly. That is only one of numerous shops the Money Whores frequented.

    PIGS! Hey, Fat Ass! OINK, OINK! Eat up. Nasty bitches!

  • juror bags says:

    Wonder how Rapid Remarry Hubby #2 is taking his dirt bag wife’s $$ Profit $$ status? Didn’t know you were hitching up to such a divine swine. Did ya? TICK-TOCK……. Just a matter of time before Laurdass wears his ass out too. Good Luck with that one Bubs. Your skank will probably take you to the cleaners too when Mommy and Daddy tell her to. It’s in her blood.

  • juror bags says:

    The damage these predatory losers do in unfathomable! All in the name of God, supposedly. Yea, Right! Ron-God #3, and the remaining holier than thou Weinscum Clan. It is so they can MAKE MONEY. That is all it is about and they are ALL GUILTY. PERIOD. They disguise their MONEY LAUNDERING SCAM as a “church” so they can steal tithe cash and try to unsuccessfully operate tax free. aka: God’s untaxed money = Weinland’s Luxury Fund PERSONAL TAXIBLE INCOME Cash. Nothing more,,,,,,,, Nothing less. We see how the tax laws applied to God’s tithe cash. Poor lil’ Ronnie the persecuted THIEF. All of the overwhelming amounts of damning evidence and facts proved these very statements I have made. FACT!

  • FedUp says:

    $4.5 million?! Holy smokes.

    I can’t think of any filthy rich prophets in the Bible. In fact, a certain amount of humility seems to be a requirement.

    $4.5 million that could have gone to worthy charities or poor church members. What a waste.

    I can’t even imagine the ego and pride Ron and Laura require to justify spending on themselves like that.

  • Doesn’t anyone know anything?

    That $4.5 million should have been used to preach the gospel.

    And Jesus came to Peter and said, “Do you love me?”
    And Peter answered to Jesus, “You know I love you!”
    And Jesus said, “Preach the Gospel!”
    Later Jesus came and asked, “Peter, do you love me?”
    Aggravated, Peter answered, “Lord, you know I love you!”
    And Jesus answered and said, “Preach the Gospel!”
    Yet a third time, Jesus said, “Peter, do you love me?”
    Peter aggrieved screeched, “You know I love you! Stop tormenting me!”
    Jesus answered and said, “Preach the Gospel!”

    So there you have it: Feed the sheep, preach the gospel… or… chew up your illegally gained Luxury Fund of blood money in spendthrift fashion and feed yourself on the lambs and shear them for your $1,700 suits.

  • Mary says:

    New post out

  • Ozymandias says:

    DB, Ron has preached his own gospel all these years. Wrote his own books, used his own words according to his own gospel. He believes this is what the money is for , to promote himself and all he believes. This is also what the PKGers believe. Anyone who didn’t believe this left. He feels totally justified in every purchase and so do the PKGers. They don’t care what he spends the money on. He is Gods prophet and as such can do as he pleases. He would tell you that the poor will always be with us, and it is not his job to take care of every lazy loser that comes into the church. I have been part of the church for decades and there were plenty of lazy losers. This is why I don’t believe in tithing any longer. Way to much money coming in for one man to spend honorably. If you wanted to, you could find a million really good things to do with the money in the name of Christ, but remember , they’re not really preaching Christ’s gospel, they’re preaching their own. Many people will go down with Ron because they believe his word over Gods. At this point I doubt if they see a difference.

  • Acts says:

    Very True ! Ron is a Delusional False Prophet. PKG has their king.

    1 Samuel 12:19

    The people all said to Samuel, “Pray to the LORD your God for your servants so that we will not die, for we have added to all our other sins the evil of asking for a king

  • Acts says:

    1 Samuel 8

    10And Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people that asked of him a king. 11And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you

    15And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants. 16And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your best young men, and your asses, and put them to HIS WORK. 17He will take the tenth of your sheep: AND YOU SHALL BE HIS SERVANTS. 18And you shall cry out in that day because of your king which you shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.

  • Acts says:

    Isaiah 1
    21How is the faithful city become a harlot! she that was full of justice! righteousness lodged in her, BUT NOW MURDERERS.
    22Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water.
    23Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves; every one loveth bribes, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
    24Therefore saith the Lord, Jehovah of hosts, the Mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies;
    25and I will turn my hand upon thee, and thoroughly purge away thy dross, and will take away all thy tin

    29For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen.

    30For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth, and as a garden that hath NO WATER.

  • Ozymandias says:

    Acts, we have loved a King ever since. Added to our sins… So very true!

  • Acts says:

    A Rich one too, flying around the world First Class , on their slaves dime.

  • Acts says:

    If Ron had any Heart he would have worked instead of stole! But after all, he is from a broken mold. Paul worked and set an example, he did not take , even though he labored in The Truth . Ron is a work of Falsehood ! They all Worship the work of his hands.

    2 Thessalonians 3
     6Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us. 7For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, because we did not act in an undisciplined manner among you, 8nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we kept working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you; 9not because we do not have the right to this, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you, so that you would follow our example. 10For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. 11For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. 12Now such persons we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ to work in quiet fashion and eat their own bread. 13But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary of doing good.

  • Acts says:

    if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.

    How much more Spiritually .

  • Acts says:

    Exodus 20:17
    You shall not covet your neighbor’s house, you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor any thing that is your neighbor’s.

    That includes your Neighbor’s Money !

  • Acts says:

    Daniel 11:14
    also the robbers of your people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall

    How much more spiritually .

  • Jay says:

    There’s another post up

  • Ozymandias says:

    Worldwide set an example of living off the hard work of others. Tithing became a scam that was used by all of the COGS. The ONE doctrine they all have in common. Never going to change that one! Even if you believe in tithing , there are far better ways to spend it than on a lavish lifestyle. HWA set this in motion and all the CODs follow along , cause it’s their favorite doctrine. The ministers think 4 years of college entitle them to the same amount a CEO of a large company might make. Everyone would agree that a person is worthy of an ample paycheck to enjoy a decent life, but that didn’t happen here. Even beyond that though , is the arrogance and failed prophesies that were never repented of. It’s all tied together. Ron’s WORK is always for himself. Books to promote his agenda, a home and car to show off and feel good about himself, and promoting his family along whether or not they are qualified. A sad end for a man of God indeed. He can call himself “Paul in chains” , but he SHOULD be ashamed of the cheating and lying he has done. The fact that he shows no shame or embarrassment for ending up in prison tells one all about his character or lack thereof. The people that continue to follow along should ask themselves some really hard questions about THEMSELVES. Nothing wrong with a little soul searching once in a while.We all need to dig deep and ask ourselves why we would follow a man with such few morals.

  • Acts says:

    TRUE !

    At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ron just put up some new #2 nonsense this morning, now reposted on this blog for your convenient commenting.

  • Jangsterish says:

    So much for “short introduction”