Not This Year

This posting is timed to publish at the same minute as sundown in Jerusalem, which is the beginning of Pentecost and the moment that False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s elder brother Jesus is scheduled to return in UFO-like fashion.  That is the moment of the Pentecost which Christ actually returns.

Trouble is that we don’t know which year, and won’t know until Ronnie tells us.  Probably not before he gets out of prison in 2016.  How many followers will he still have then?  If greater than zero, too many.  I expect he will have too many followers who will stay with him, Pentecost to Pentecost.

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  • Mike, see — Rotten Ronnie predicted that Christ won’t return this year, so when he doesn’t Ron is proved to be a Prophet of the Lord!

    Win-win.

    He can redeem himself by continuing to prophesy the non return of Christ year to year!

  • Nice cartoon caption for this post.

    Of course we know what happens when Charlie Brown goes to kick the ball, don’t we?

    Make the last time the very last time and give up or you’ll fall on your back and be looking at sky.

    What a rotten trick Laura… I mean Lucy… plays!

  • Acts says:

    I know I’ve seen him in that shirt! 😀

  • Acts says:

    Douglas Becker says:
    June 7, 2014 at 12:16
    If I remember correctly, there were 10 of these situations where mates had to divorce in my experience between Seattle and Spokane. The children were confused and miserable.

    And just when they had finally sort of adjusted to their situations, then the ecclesiastical law was changed and they could be married again. And maybe it was 1974 instead.

    Up until the 1970s, the church had absolute control over member’s lives as to whether they could own an auto, marry or buy a house. When the 1970s rolled around and there was an influx of tens of thousands of people, there were too few “administrators” to too many members. Herbert Armstrong made the choice to compromise some of the more harsh doctrines so he could widen the membership to get more power and money. Plus he married a divorced woman after the change in doctrine (whose husband was still around in Pasadena). Of course, his divorce ended with his paying Ramona $5 million of our tithe money, but so what — it wasn’t his money, so he didn’t have to worry about it. He claimed he owned nothing (except maybe his clothing) because it all belonged to the church anyway. Apparently that included his wife, since we paid for her.

  • Acts says:

    As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.

  • Acts says:

    And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

    He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: HE THAT KILLS WITH THE SWORD MUST BE KILLED WITH THE SWORD Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

    Rev 19:15
    And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    13:3
    And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed
    11
    And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed
    And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    World wide is the Beast . All the groups that carry on are the image of the beast. People are caught up with Fairy tails and Signs and wonders. Lost in the wilderness.

  • Acts says:

    For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

    Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:

    Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, YOU KILL THEM that are fed: but you feed not the flock.

    So will I send upon you famine and evil beasts, (False Shepherds and False Prophets , False Teachers )and they shall bereave thee; and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee; and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it.

  • Acts says:

    Rev13
    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    Proverbs 23:23
    Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

    Proverbs 17:16
    Why should fools have money in hand to buy wisdom, when they are not able to understand it?

    Isaiah 55:1
    Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost.

  • Acts says:

    Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

    Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

     Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

  • Acts, it’s pretty clear that your efforts are wasted on Ronald Weinland. He doesn’t fear the lake of fire even if he has the death penalty sentence as a false prophet.

    Near as I can tell, he’s an atheist, unless you don’t consider someone who thinks they are god as atheists.

  • Acts says:

    No doubt DB, they Are Scorners and Judgments are prepared for them. And yes , I do believe he thinks he is God.
    He certainly believes he has the right to change his Laws.

    Daniel 7:25
    And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

    He also likes to Change times a lot as well. Has anyone noticed that ?

  • Acts says:

    Not saying he is alone in such practices by any means . Are they all not the image of their maker ? Who seemed to go Astray in many things.

    And who is the spirit behind all this?

    And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

  • Acts says:

    For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

  • Acts says:

    You know , the same one who came to Ron in a dream.

  • Randy says:

    Like I always said I’m not very educated ! But have the coming cense to see right throw this crooks and assholes! Can I get an Amen !!

  • Randy says:

    Oh my you mean Christ isn’t coming back tomorrow oh your kidding me Ron sad it would , I can’t believe Ron is wrong again , say it ain’t so ! Not the almighty Ron with all this given info ! God giving info ! It can’t happen PKG keep sending money some day it will happen lol

  • Yes, Randy, don’t just send money, send MORE money (than usual) — make sacrifices — give until it hurts. That way it is sure to happen, just like the 450 prophets on Mount Carmel got their gods to light the sacrifice on fire….

    MORE!

    If you want success, give MORE.

    And if nothing happens, it is a sure sign that something will!

  • Randy says:

    Amen Doug ! Give tell it hurts your mighty profit well make sure you inter the kingdom of Ron !!!! Lol

  • The Kingdom of Ron!

    That’s really funny.

  • martin says:

    4:53 AM
    Sunday, June 8, 2014 (IDT)
    Time in Jerusalem

    Another fail for Ron……100% FAILURE RATE FOR HIM

  • No, now Martin, we’ve discussed this. Ron may have at first predicted the return of Christ this year on Pentecost, but he reversed himself, saying that Christ would not return in 2014.

    So now his prediction is coming true that Christ is not returning this year.

    And I have to ask, how many predictions does it take that come to pass to make a true prophet of God.

    Of course, we all know the answer to that: No amount of successful prophecies will make a false prophet a true one if they fail just once and Ron has failed a lot more than that.

    But he’s now a failure of a failure because he’s not quite a 100% failure. It’s 99.999….. something or other failure rate. That makes him incompetent at being even a false prophet.

    The mocking never stops….

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    I was around in the WWCG in the 70’s. Yes Douglas has it like it was, only in reality it was worse. Don’t forget, if your skirt doesn’t touch the floor when you’r on you knees it is too short. Or the only soda you should drink was Mt. Dew, cause that was what HWA drank. Don’t put white sugar on cereal, only cane sugar. Don’t change jobs until you check with the minister. Then of course there was the make-up rules, and not to color your hair. The list was end less. Then it was also the Dr. and dentist. Don’t get your teeth fixed, no need to, Christ was going to return.

    Don’t get me started on all of this. I was sooooo glad when all this stopped. When Gary came home said we were going to start attending PKG, it was like reliving this all over again. I tried to explain all this to Gary, but I guess unless you lived it, they just don’t understand. I had married an AC graduate, top of the class. When he went “nuts”, my marriage went before the church and they ruled it was not binding. Not only did he go nuts, he abused our son. Lost parental rights over it all. It was so bad that the church was checking into what they used to call the “underground” for my son and I.

    Both of these men had more talents than the average person, and look what they did with them. Talk about a waste of a brain. The church changed them both, from being a loving person to a controlling abusive person. Then the pride set into each of them and there was no talking to either of them.

    You would think I should be turned off to religion, but it is the organization that is corrupt, not God.

  • bilbo says:

    Lo! The Kingdom of Ron approacheth! Behold this morn, the blinding light over the horizon, doth announceth the return of our …

    No wait, that’s just the sunrise. Nevermind!

  • bilbo says:

    And just to be clear, it’s not Christ that I’m mocking. If or when our Lord and Saviour does return, there will be no ambiguity or games or unrepentant deception.

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    NEWS FLASH!!! RAMBLING RONNIE IS A COLOSSAL FAILURE AT PROPHESY!!!! (DEUT: 18:22)

    Also, check out “gd” post in “laura and her band of merry women”. Wilhelm is not going to be happy nor is eric and audra with the UK!

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    The “black widow” needs to attack the “brits” and save her falling empire!!!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Now this comment has the flavor of something really good, like maybe massive defections in the UK.

  • We love the British, just not British Israelism!

    UK? The suspense is killing me! (Don’t worry, I’ll survive!)

  • Acts says:

    Such deception stretching all the way back to the HWA Days. It’s a lot of Transgression that made it easy for the devil to step in. See the last Chapters of Daniel .

    Don’t be deceived ! People who say Gods church is here or Gods church is there are false ! It is the exact thing Christ warned about!

    Matthew 24:23
    Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25Behold, I have told you before.

    Gods church are those that follow Christ and keep the commandments, Repent and overcome . You cannot point at a specific Group of people and say Gods church is here or there!

    SEEK and you shall find !

    Jeremiah 7:4
    But don’t be fooled by those who promise you safety simply because the LORD’s Temple is here. They chant, “The LORD’s Temple is here! The LORD’s Temple is here!”

    5But I will be merciful only if you stop your evil thoughts and deeds and start treating each other with justice; 6only if you stop exploiting foreigners, orphans, and widows; only if you stop your murdering; and only if you stop harming yourselves by worshiping idols. 7Then I will let you stay in this land that I gave to your ancestors to keep forever.

    Just because HWA had some things Right out of Gods word , he had a mass amount of error that destroyed people’s lives!

    Ron would yell out , no one would have any truth if it was not for that man ! He witnesses against himself that HWA was his Idol!

    Is God not strong enough to give his people who follow him what they need ? He limits the power of God and is a Filthy Blasphemer!

    The Beast that had a wound with the Sword and lived ! The image of the Beast that they all Wonder after.

  • Acts says:

    Ezekiel 8:16
    And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD’S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

    Revelation 11
    And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

     But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

  • martin says:

    You would think God’s most formidable prophet would have something to say about today.

    Like how he is a false prophet 10 times over.

  • Conald Swineland has done those of us debunking the Cult of Herbert Armstrong Mafia a great service: He serves as a prime example of what the cult is all about — it’s easier to demonstrate the fruit of the entire cult through him. In addition, he makes explaining 1975 in Prophecy a whole lot easier.

    We owe a debt of gratitude to the entire Weinland family — $0.00!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Well, let’s see.

    Today is the official end of the SECOND Day Of The Lord’s Wrath…and…nothing! Like we have ALWAYS said about Ron’s false prophecies and obvious lies. That is the FIFTH Jesus is Returning False Prophecy Ron has uttered. Fail. fail. fail. fail. and. fail. He LIED in 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014. He said Jesus would return THEN he retracted it, again and again. You CAN’T do hat with a TRUE prophecy. So once again the PKG demonstrate their love of being abused and their joy at opposing the Bible.

    Ronald Weinland is a LIAR, and NO amount of hemming and hawing from the PKG can change this FACT. Ron himself has implicated HIMSELF by his own actions and own lies.

    Wake UP PKG…You are in for another round of lies and tithe-stealing.

    The question is now, WILL YOU ALLOW RONALD WEINLAND LIE TO YOU ABOUT JESUS CHRIST A SIXTH TIME. Ron says Jesus is returning on a Pentecost, and he even said God told him the date last year but not to reveal it.

    ARE YOU READY TO BE LIED TO ABOUT JESUS A SIXTH TIME AND HAVE YOUR TITHES STOLEN FROM YOU FOR MORE BMWs AND GOLD FOR THE WIENLANDS?

  • Randy says:

    One thing that gets me is the Bible says if a man claims to be a Prophet and nothing he says happens, it not in the name of God and don’t be afraid to leave him !!!!! And what happen that Ron said was going to happen ? Nothing not one thing and he said all his giving info was from Satan, what to say all of his new info still ain’t giving by Satan, what’s to say he ain’t Satan and his stealing wife ! His new book will be all bullshit to, Fallow no man read your bibles !not Ron’s books , the bible said no scripture shale be changed but Ron has no problem changing them! And no man or the son or any angle shale know the time or hour of the return of Christ

  • JD says:

    Elder did they raise Diane to elder to keep her there. I also listened to the annoucement made by Johnny and they raised Tom and Charlie to elders.

  • Matt says:

    I don’t think Ron is an atheist. In fact, I think he would have a much harder time justifying what he does if he could not hide behind his irrational beliefs. I think rather that Ron chooses the things he believes based on how much he wants to believe them, same as his followers. The only difference is that he has such a massively inflated sense of self-importance and is so egotistical and vain that he has absolutely no problem giving himself a near divine status in his own belief-system.

    But I do not believe that the things he believes deep down closely match what he preaches: he has shown already that is is more than happy for people to believe things that he personally does not believe to be true. We have heard from people who described how he snickered when he talked about how many people falsely believed they would be part of the chosen few who, in his personal version of the apocalypse, will live through the return of Christ. So it seems that he feels that there is a deeper “truth” that many of his followers simply cannot grasp, and he is quite comfortable with that idea. The sheep do not need to understand how to operate a shepherds crook. Or a crooked shepherd 😛

    I think that he is just a very weak man. Whenever he is faced with difficult truths, he folds up like a leaky accordion. When he attended that big convention he fled the moment anyone criticized him. When the predictions in his book failed one after another he waffled and blathered, never reaching any of the hard conclusions, never simply admitting how wrong he was even when it became blatantly obvious. In stead of honest appraisal, he flees into more and more ridiculous rationalizations, spiritualizing away anything that is too obvious to ignore, and inventing such weird notions as a “progressive truth”… a truth that can be true in the past even when at present it is found out to not be true at all.

    And in fairness, it would be silly to expect anything else from someone like Ron. It would take real fortitude to give up the easy comfortable life where all you need to do is produce a few boring sermons and that allows you to play God. It would also take real integrity to honestly examine your own beliefs and realize just how self-centered and self-serving they really are. Ron has shown very little of either quality, and just refuses to change his beliefs even when they are proven false again and again.

    But then again, he is not alone in that. Nor are his followers. A surprising amount of the people who realize they have been following a self-indulgent narcissist decide that the problem was not that they believed in irrational things because they were psychologically attractive… it is just that they were following the wrong man / cult / church / interpretation.

    Strange how beliefs persist even when they are proven false, if they are cherished beliefs. Still, at least fooling yourself tends to be free 🙂

  • Acts says:

    Daniel 11:32
    And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he CORRUPT WITH FLATTERIES

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    JD:

    Yes they did raise Diane to elder. However this is a smokescreen because they appointed Conrad and his wife Michelle to assoc elders. Conrad is doing all the scheduling and using his credit card to pay for the meeting rooms (this is reimbursable).

    Diane is the senior member and we were in worldwide together for many years(get the picture?). I am of the opinion that Diane is a “write off” because they know she will leave pkg eventually. Also, I appear to be a “high level” threat to pkg because I post here and reveals their nasty dirty secrets here. Unfortunately my wife hasn’t figured this out yet, but, she will and she will turn on pkg as I did. Also, my wife has been a stay home wife and mother for thirty years and she does not have a tithe to give to the clowns in ohio. My wife fully understands that our income is earned by me and I have forbidden any money going to pkg and she fully respect my position. I keep a close eye on what checks are being written and where they are going. So, Diane is not of any financial value to pkg, but they are only placating her for the moment. Whereas, Conrad does make a better than average income and therefore is of “monetary value” to the clowns! So this is not difficult to see through, when Diane leaves pkg Conrad is already in place to become the “elder”!!

    I have no idea who Tom and Charlie are. It seems that elders are leaving pkg. I wonder why?

  • Here it Monday. The 2014 Pentecost bash is over.

    Any fallout yet?

  • So sad says:

    It seems like there are just as many elders as there are members. Could this be a way to secure their income? Do they single out people that make a decent living so they can continue their life style?

  • Randy says:

    PKG. (Please Keep Giving ) 🙂

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    So Sad,

    I am of the opinion they do!!! These people (weinland) only are concerned about their own survival period!!

  • Acts says:

    Daniel 9

    2-19

  • Acts says:

    10I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Tom and Charlie from Cincinnati. Tom is probably Tom Volle, don’t know about Charlie.

  • Randy says:

    All the up coming trips are made so Laura can use church funds
    This weekend they are coming to Detroit so Laura and Audra can go to the Wrozeck shower on Sunday
    Taking Ann to Texas so she can she her son !
    Why can’t these people see how Laura mennipalats everything for her good and control !!!!!!

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    Randy,

    They do not want to. Free ride, my man!

  • charlie says:

    today is june 9, 2014 a very significant date in prophecy (ask ron ) …….can we just go ahead and start the apocalypse now ??

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland slung some horse crap that the DOTL was 24 hrs (originally) and that everything would happen on the last day at the end of the 1260 days (he did this because nothing happened or was happening during the 1259 previous days)

    The PKGers swallowed this crap.

    Then Ron said the DOTL was a year old because nothing happened in the last 24 hours.

    The PKGers swallowed this crap.

    Then Ron said it was during the last 6 months of that year because nothing happened during first 6 months

    The PKGers swallowed this crap.

    The Ron said it was all spiritual, the physical part would happen in the second DOTL (because nothing happened during first 6 month and nothing happened during latter 6 months).

    The PKGers swallowed this crap.

    The PKGers love being lied to, they enjoy new lie after new lie.

    The PKGers should consider the past track record, and remember it will be the same track record that will have them thrust out of the kingdom because they couldn’t recognize a false prophet despite the countless proofs.

  • martin says:

    The second DOTL has come and gone….nothing happened.

    Leave this false prophet.

  • PKG: If you leave those Weinland lying pigs you can save yourself years of disappointment — year after year after year of not getting what you expect.

    And you’ll save a ton of money that’s spent on the Weinland luxury fund with no benefit to you at all.

  • Acts says:

     

    THE PHILADELPHIA CHURCH OF GOD (Gerald Flurry)
    THE RESTORED CHURCH OF GOD (David C. Pack)
    LIVING CHURCH OF GOD (Roderick C. Meredith)
    INTERCONTINENTAL CHURCH OF GOD (Garner Ted Armstrong)
    UNITED CHURCH OF GOD, AN INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION
    CHURCH OF GOD’S FAITHFUL (Robert G. Ardis)
    INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF GOD (Ronald L. Dart)
    CHURCH OF GOD, AN INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY (David Hulme)
    CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL CHURCH OF GOD (Fred R. Coulter)
    THE CHURCH OF GOD-PKG (Ronald Weinland)
    HOUSE OF YAHWEH (Yisrayl Hawkins)
    GOD’S CHURCH, WORLDWIDE (David Moore)
    CHURCH OF GOD, FAITHFUL FLOCK (Alton Billingsley)

    And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

  • Acts says:

    12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

  • Acts says:

    If any man have an ear, let him hear.

  • Acts says:

    He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword

  • Acts says:

    Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men

    Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.

    For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

  • Acts says:

    Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.

  • Matt says:

    Kind of fascinating. Each one of these is the One True Church. All the other ones are impostors. Many of them are led by Apostles or Prophets or whatnots

    THE PHILADELPHIA CHURCH OF GOD (Gerald Flurry)
    THE RESTORED CHURCH OF GOD (David C. Pack)
    LIVING CHURCH OF GOD (Roderick C. Meredith)
    INTERCONTINENTAL CHURCH OF GOD (Garner Ted Armstrong)
    UNITED CHURCH OF GOD, AN INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION
    CHURCH OF GOD’S FAITHFUL (Robert G. Ardis)
    INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF GOD (Ronald L. Dart)
    CHURCH OF GOD, AN INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY (David Hulme)
    CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL CHURCH OF GOD (Fred R. Coulter)
    THE CHURCH OF GOD-PKG (Ronald Weinland)
    HOUSE OF YAHWEH (Yisrayl Hawkins)
    GOD’S CHURCH, WORLDWIDE (David Moore)
    CHURCH OF GOD, FAITHFUL FLOCK (Alton Billingsley)

    And these are just splinters that originated from one particular smallish cult – Armstrong’s.

    And that in itself is part of a wider religious tradition – protestantism. Which belongs to the judeo-christian family of religions, of which there are many more.

    Surely that in itself is proof that God, if there is one that we can possibly comprehend, desires us to be agnostic where organised religions are concerned. Clearly he wants there to be doubts, questions, enquiries and he does not want us to have ready-made answers such as cults provide at all. That, or he has a weird sense of humor.

  • Acts says:

    All Organized Religion is part of Babylon.

    And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

    So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication

    With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

    All the Groups mentioned including World Wide Church (the Beast) Has drank the wine of her Fornication.

    Isaiah 5
    21Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

    22Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: ( False Doctrine from false Prophets and teachers )

    23Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

    24Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

  • Acts says:

    And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed

    And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he EXERCISES ALL THE POWER OF THE FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM.

    and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed

  • Don D says:

    Acts

    With all due respect, you seem to have resumed your endless recital of verses from scripture. Mike recently questioned the usefulness of this sort of exercise. Everyone is only too well aware of these extracts from scripture. The more you repeat them over and over and over again, the less is the effect. I’m sure that by now everyone’s eyes glaze over and they give these types of postings a big miss. This would surely include not only the Weinlands, but both their supporters and knockers.

    Can we PLEASE call a halt to this? I can’t see that it’s of any use whatsoever. I don’t mean to offend but it’s becoming a mindless exercise in my opinion.
    Apologies for speaking plainly……

  • bilbo says:

    It’s true. Copying out the entire bible here, isn’t going to make Ron listen to it anymore than he listens to the one sitting on his desk.

    The very bible scriptures that Ron uses do condemn him, and so, some poignant scriptures do belong posted here, but this level of verbosity just drowns out the conversation. I know you’re frustrated Acts. We all would like to see these clowns face justice.

  • Acts says:

    John 6:
    54Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

    Revelation 17

    15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. 16And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, AND SHALL EAT HER FLESH ,and burn her with fire.

  • Yes, we are frustrated, but this is a slowly unfolding drama which takes patience in its grandeur.

    Enjoy the irony as it develops in ever more intricate ways….

    Short version: Swineland is con and he’s getting creamed, but we want more cream and want him to get creamed faster. Him and his big mouthed pig wife.

  • bilbo says:

    Grandeur? LOTR is a story with grandeur. Star Wars, Game of Thrones, Dune, these stories have grandeur.

    This sad tale is anything but. The only grandeur is in Ron’s mind and the build up in the minds of the followers. An objective look from outside shows a sad tale of dupes being harvested for profit with a whimper. I was one of those sad dupes at one time. No shame in being fooled, it happens to the best of us. There is shame in staying fooled once you know.

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    There is an interesting thing going on in my household. I have noticed that my wife is stressing over the fact that we are not doing things together (I am referring to gulag pkg). She has been watching my reaction since leaving gulag pkg on how I was going to conduct my religious life. She has now come to the realization that I do not have an issue with God due to my keeping the Sabbath and spending the entire Sabbath in Bible study. She has noticed that I have reconstructed my biblical library and that I have destroyed anything and everything that is related to gulag pkg.

    She has finally accepted the fact that my issue is focused and directed at the weinlands!! This is good news because it means that she is getting close to asking me why I have this issue with them! This is good news!! The conflict she is dealing with is the “fellowship” crap that rambling ronnie has been spewing out of his deceitful mouth. You see, I am suppose to be a God hating damned man according to rambling ron’s teachings and this has not happened, the opposite has happened! You see, she pays attention to matters of this sort. It won’t be long and she will start thinking about the failed prophesies and all the teachings that are failing as well.

    So this is good news for me and bad news for gulag pkg!

  • Glad I'm Free says:

    I think most people do not have an issue with God. Only the false facts put out by Ron and PKG. They are not teaching Godly principles. If they were there would not be so many divorces taking place. When you give people positions of authority that have not earned them, then pride and grandeur set in. Once that happens it is a lost cause.

  • Acts says:

    That is the most Dangerous mindset that I saw in PKG . The belief that if you are outside the group , you are under the control of Satan.

    That fear is why people who you have known for years , believe it is ok to just Cut you off. That fear is responsible for breaking Up families .

    In 1974 HWA changed the Day of Pentecost to Sunday . That same year he changed the biblical understanding of divorce and remarriage .

    When you Talk about Destroying a family , Divorce and Adultery will do that very easily .

    There were many Kings in Israel , Many of them did that which was evil in the sight Of the Lord.

    Solomon Was wise but at the end of his life he loved many strange Women.
    1kings 11:4
    For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as was the heart of David his father.

    Seems to me they are not following Jesus Christ at all in these Groups. They are following A False Christ. A False God. Idol worship.

    Is God happy with So much divorce over the years ? How will HWA come up ? How will Solomon Come up ? How about Ron?

    The kings in Israel Who did wrong caused all the people to go Astray. Is this not the same exact thing?

    It’s a pattern of wickedness over the decades . It has been 40 years , only time will tell how much longer this goes on .

    World wide claimed to be so different from the world in its behavior . All these Groups claim to be Gods True Church that came out of World wide.
    Looks to me that they are worse than the world , Because they are Filthy HYPOCRITES and Practice all their Abominations in the Name of God .

    That’s Blasphemy!

  • bilbo says:

    > Is God happy with So much divorce over the years ?

    By their fruits you will know them. The astonishing part is they still think their poop smells like bakery fresh cinnamon buns.

  • martin says:

    Why is God’s most formidable prophet silent on the non-Return of Christ?

    That he mentioned Christ was not returning was not impressive.

    Christ is NOT returning tomorrow. I can guarantee this with 100000% accuracy. (I do believe He is ultimately returning someday)

    Ron breathed lies about multiple Days of the Lord. It’s horse baloney. Ron doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about.

    Ron just wants to continue being a thief.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Yes, interesting isn’t it?

    Ron gave a big speech about this so-called Second Day of the Lord’s Wrath, and…nothing!! This is what is so funny and pathetic about Ronald Weinland. He is all feathers and no chicken! He threatens us and the world with fire and violence and then runs away to hide when we call him on it. This is God’s most powerful End Time Prophet? This is God’s Way…false prophecy. lies and failure? LOL!! He has cried wolf so many times and been so spectacularly wrong, even an infant would not be scared of Weinland and his never-returning Messiah, and his non-occuring End Of Days!

    So now his big solution is to restart everything and say it is NOW not spiritual anymore…(but we all know he will bail on this plan yet again in another 5 years and retire/die with all the tithes in his pocket!)His next book will be easy to write though.

    Just like the last two…he will wipe the underside of his prison toilet with blank paper and publish the resultant sh*t-smeared pages!

  • juror bags says:

    Wait! I see them! Santa Claus and Ron’s very own PERSONAL Jesus (not the same Jesus everyone else thinks of) just flew by in the sleigh being led by Rudolph. Oh, they are circling around and heading back. They are now pulled into the driveway and Santa just asked, “You wouldn’t happen to have an old school red light bulb, would ya? Rudolph’s nose bulb just went out.”

    I happened to have an extra one laying around. Great! They were very grateful and I saw them off as they flew away in the sleigh waving back at me telling me I am their #3 red light bulb guy and they will be in touch revealing some secrets to me soon. They said they owed me one and will gladly return the favor. How cool was that?

    The above statements are about as believable as the crap that rolls out of Ron and Laura’s mouths and the #2 mojo ramblings for cash. Here is the difference in our B.S. The LIES I just told are FREE OF CHARGE. You are welcome.

    Now all I need is a P.O. Box and a bunch of adults with bank accounts that still believes Santa slides his old fat ass down the 10 inch chimney every year to drop of presents and eat cookies. Don’t believe me? Santa comes to my place very year. We have cookies and milk. He told me he hasn’t been stopping buy your all’s houses because he knows that you have not been sending me your Santa tithes.

    Trust me. Send the money and I will make sure he stops at your place next year. He told me so.

  • juror bags says:

    Not much difference. Is there?

  • juror bags says:

    If Santa happens to miss your house this year and next year I can say the earth was on a slightly different tilt in reference to the axis and gravitational pulls at work resulting in Ho-Ho’s GPS not working exactly right at those times. Or Santa forgot to adjust his watch for the different time zones around the world. You know, It is about the same as jet streams shifting causing weather patterns and the same reasons gas prices go up. That is also what makes people sometimes trip as they walk. It has nothing to do with them not seeing the side walk heaved up. Santa confirmed that was a jet stream shift too.

    Santa revealed to me in the middle of the night that gas prices are directly affected by a shift in the jet streams. Mrs. Claus also ensures that all of the major retailers have holiday sales to avoid any type of monopoly with gift giving by Santa and the elves. They do have a competitive advantage since theirs are free and the ones at the store are only on sale.

    You with me now? Am I talking in circles making no sense just like Prophet Ron God #3? Good, you now have mine and Santa’s blessings.

    Also remember the North Pole was not exactly facing North. It happened to be a few degrees off so this had Santa in a pickle and he was unable to find your house due to this technical difficulty. The jet streams also blew the sleigh off course a bit. I know it sounds crazy but Santa would never lie to me. He still owes me one for the red light bulb Rudolph blew awhile back when they had to land in my driveway. Santa did mention the North Pole was in need of donations and the elves were about to go on strike. Wouldn’t it be a shame if they went on strike and the little orphans didn’t get their toys. Santa really wants you to send Santa tithes so the toy building can continue.

    Just mail it to me and I will give it to him when I see him next week at the farrier’s shop.
    Rudolph and the crew need new shoes monthly. Never could figure that one out since they normally fly but you just have to trust me and Santa.

    I know this because he just sent me a text message from his I-Phone. By the way, the “I” stands for Ice. It is cold up there where Santa lives. I am supposed to fly up next week and tell Santa who is on the naughty and nice list. Be sure to send in the Santa tithes so you can remain on the nice list. Santa also told me that when it thaws out up there on the North Pole that you all will be the only ones allowed to visit and I am the only one besides Santa that knows how to get there. Now send in that money so the elves can build toys and Santa can get them delivered. You do not want to get kicked off of the sleigh, Do you?

    Same story and twisted made up lies. I chose to extort Santa and the North Pole in hopes of getting Santa tithes. Ron uses God and religion with very similar lies and made up stuff for “church” tithes.

  • Juror Bags, you forgot the part about how Mrs. Santa needs tithes to pay for her panties from Victoria’s Secret (her size is the same as Laura’s). She also needs a new BMW to drive down to Victoria’s Secret. Because of the cold, she also needs 5 new fur coats. Each one will cost $25,000 each.

    It’s cold up there and Mrs. Santa needs your tithes. You should feel sorry for her, since she doesn’t get out much. And she’s the Silent Claus!

    Remember that all your tithes to the Santas are tax deductible. They are running a charity. Of course, the presents the little girls and boys get are paid for by friends and relatives, so Santa has very low overhead. He has volunteer unpaid elves to spread the word. It saves expenses. In fact, one of them quit his job and moved up from Australia.

    I don’t know why Santa needed a red bulb from you. He really only drives around in his BMW sleigh for joy rides. He really doesn’t deliver a single present and hasn’t for years. He keeps predicting he will, and if you pay him enough, perhaps he will come again. But it will not be at Christmas Eve! Oh, no! The day has been moved to Saturday night before Easter. There’s even a rumor that he’s switching from traditional Christmas toys to chocolate Easter eggs. I know that a lot of people are outraged by this subtle change in doctrine about Santa, but we have new truths from our Apostle / Profit, Juror Bags. Should you believe what the mass media says, or do you believe in the man directly called and is speaking to by Santa? You all must have faith.

    If this does not come to pass, then Juror Bags is a false prophet. But if it does not come to pass, Santa will give him secret messages to tell him why and when it will come to pass, because he was deceived by the Grinch!

    Look, if you PKGers can believe Ronald Weinland, then surely Juror Bags has even more credibility.

    Just think of yourselves eating chocolate Easter bunny ears and you can catch the vision to join the Church of Santa Juror Bags (and do not be deceived by other churches that pop up with this same doctrine — they are all cults!).

  • Oh, and you skeptics out there! You will see!

    Stop saying that Juror Bags is all fur and no cat!

  • Leftatlast says:

    “All feathers and no chicken”. LOL, Well that made me laugh.. 🙂

  • juror bags says:

    Thanks for your time in Santa’s workshop Becker! Nice additional insight on how my man Santa and the North Pole Queen operate. Santa just told me to tell you that you are now a senior elder elf so keep sending your larger tithes and spreading the joy. This stuff sounds very familiar. Money should be rolling in soon now that I am third in command of the North Pole.

    Would you like to go to Vegas with me. My family will be covered by Santa tithes but you would have to pay your own way of course. See you there. Don’t forget your gift donations along with tithes so the North Pole can stay in business. I am supposed to go on a cruise with Santa and we are going to need deep tissue massages. My Ho-Ho Hooker needs some high dollar jewelry so she will look good representing Santa also.

    Ronnie Boy is really slowing down on his #2 Lying Wonders, eh? There seems to be a disruption in the emotional cult food supply chain. I guess that since Laurdass and the New Present Truth Clan are busy traveling and the weather is nice they just do not have the time to forward Ron’s religious prison message very often.

    On a better note it seems the exotic travels are curtailed and they are staying more local. The fun budget must be shrinking. Wonder why? I can not wait for the day the Weinlands are in financial ruin still driving those old clapped out BMWs. TICK-TOCK!

    Who wants to take a bet on how long Audrass’s new marriage lasts? I also think Jack Wagon Jeremy will be divorced sooner than later. The Weinland’s House of Smoke and Mirrors will be clearing up as time goes by and they will no longer be able to hide and tell their lies. I think they already realize this fact.

    Maybe Ron has been busy on the roofing crew again up there in Indiana. Another lie! There is no way in hell that Ron ever worked on a roof while in Club Fed. Sitting there watching someone repair a roof does not qualify Ron as being part of a roof crew.

    Maybe this year a worker will drop his hammer and it will slide off of the roof and hit Ron on his head. We can only hope.

  • juror bags says:

    Elder-pkg (no longer),
    On a serious note I think it is only a matter of time that your wife will see the Weinscums for what they are. I hope and pray for you and wish you the best of luck with fingers crossed and anything else I can do.

    It is good news that you are not allowing any money to go into the Luxury Fund so the Weinlands can frivolously blow it on themselves or pay their personal lusts because that is exactly what is done with it. That is all they do with it. I know this for a fact. They might spend a very small percentage on what could be construed as a “church” expense. Ultimately, that small percentage of “church” expense is just oil and lube for the PKG Scam Machine. They have to do something so people know where to send the tithe cash.

    In all fairness I would say that realistically the Weinlands keep 90% of all tithe money and donations to use on their own PERSONAL expenses and spending habits. This game has changed now because the IRS is getting 45% and they have other PERSONAL expenses through their own fault but they are still benefitting from 90% of the P.O. Box money.

    Where else is there any proof that they have legitimate “church” related expenses? They couldn’t show hardly any during Ron’s trail and what little they tried to show was very questionable at best. Another words, we knew what the goal was in regards to ANY somewhat legit “church” expenses.

    Let me put it this way. What little was spent was only fuel in the gas tank. Better yet, what good is a very expensive BMW 5 series with no fuel in the tank? The Weinlands represent the BMWs and jewelry and the legit “church” expenses represent the 20 gallons of gas and jewelry cleaner.

    These greedy assholes steal ALL of the MONEY. What little they do spend that can barely even be considered any type of “church” related expense is bogus anyway. They are FAKE and their so called “church” is a MONEY MAKING & LAUNDERING SCAM. That is the TRUTH.

    That is a key factor and mark my words when I say that now that your wife is not giving the Weinlands money that they will have little or no use for her. Especially since you are no longer a willing participant and an outspoken critic. They might have an interest in letting her hang around only for another numbers game. If membership is declining they would have an interest in letting her stay just for the illusion of membership numbers.

  • juror bags says:

    We also know that if your wife has ANYTHING other than FULL COMPLIANCE with the Weinlands that she will be kicked to the curb almost immediately. If she wants to stay and play then there is absolutely no time for any legit questions on her behalf.

    Sounds like a SCAM, Looks like a SCAM, acts like a SCAM, operates like a SCAM, has been viewed and proven in court it is indeed a SCAM…………. This leaves only one factual conclusion. IT IS A SCAM!

  • juror bags says:

    The ONLY REASON that ALL of the WEINLANDS were not indicted and imprisoned is the fact that there is freedom of religion in the US and these SCAM-ARTISTS have disguised their operation as some kind of a religion or church.

    WHERE IN THE HELL IS THEIR CHURCH? I see no buildings. I see no true ministry. I see no charity. I see no good deeds. etc; etc; What do they do other than embellish their OWN PERSONAL LUXURY FUND?

    That’s right PKG exists out there in the wild, wild world of the web. It floats around in internet space with no true anything. Nothing tangible. It is imaginary and exists because Ron and the Fat Whore say so.

    Isn’t it VERY IRONIC that the PKG exists on the World Wide Web primarily? I find it funny that the media tool used by Ron and Laurdass as their church is the very same media tool that the PKG followers are NOT ALLOWED TO FREQUENT AND USE THEMSELVES. They can not use their own “church.” They can only PAY FOR IT.

    PKG is some kind of INTERNET SOCIAL MEDIA THING A MA JIG and PKG TITHERS and FOLLOWERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VISIT THEIR OWN CHURCH. TRUELY AWESOME & AMAZING. Is it not?

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    “… They might have an interest in letting her hang around only for another numbers game. If membership is declining they would have an interest in letting her stay just for the illusion of membership numbers …” Juror Bags

    This is Very Very True!!!

    Diane is an anchor for the ladies (what’s left) in the florida group. When she leaves, that will be difficult for the remaining ladies. Gulag pkg, at this moment, is focusing on Conrad and have to addict him to the hopium quickly because of his good income. The warden (laura) of gulag pkg has already enticed Conrad with the title of “assoc elder” and has bestowed on him all of the local responsibilities, intentionally bypassing Diane completely, has already infected him with hubris (the first bite of the black widow). When Diane figures out all of this she will be angry!!!

    I so look forward to that DAY!!!

  • martin says:

    3 1/2 years, a big prophetic failure

    1st Day of the Lord (it was all spiritual, declared afterwards by coward and weasel and thief Ron Weinland)

    2nd Day of the Lord (also a big bust)

    Are you listening PKGers?

    Can you figure it out?

    Before it’s too late and Ron drags you into the ditch along with him *as Christ said would happen*?

  • Randy says:

    Amen Martin
    Like

  • Randy says:

    Ron and Laura you have been profits for 10 years what happen you said would and you scared the hell out of plenty people ! I got this nothing happen but you recked lives, divorces, family’s broke up, and the asshole in prison come on give it up bitch get a job like the rest of us !!! Just like Jim baker karma killed him in jail, and his wife got a brake like Laura, but I think Tammy is dead now to karma bitch !!!!!!!

  • Randy says:

    If a profit tells you something going to happen in the name of The Lord and it doesn’t don’t be afraid to leave him , it doesn’t say nothing about a her ! No cloth sacks , $1700 suits ! $500 message 3 family BMW, and most people in the church can’t afford a pot to piss in!

  • Randy, what is so disturbing to me is that he speaks in the name of The Lord, it doesn’t happen and he has no fear. No fear at all. I mean, I’d be terribly embarrassed. I wouldn’t ever want to say anything again and would hope people would forget. And I’d be afraid — you know, as in, “it’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God” sort of thing.

    But why no fear? Is it because he has found he can do things which the Scripture says he’s condemned to death and finds that nothing at all seems to have happened to him? Has he not read that because judgment is not executed speedily the hearts of men are fully turned to evil?

    He should be terrified. And it would be wise for him to be very quiet and lay very low.

    But he’s as loud and obnoxious as ever.

    What’s with that?

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    Douglas:

    “… HUBRIS…”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • martin says:

    The PKGers and spies need to ask themselves this question:

    Does a prophet that’s gotten 100% of his prophecies wrong sound like a man that “sees” or sounds like a man that is “blind”?

    When the blind lead the blind they both fall into the “pit”, that is a big hole in the ground that is a grave.

    So I would say, continue to follow this man, if this is the end you wish upon yourselves.

  • The PKGers and spies need to ask themselves this question:

    Do they really want to continue to follow and support a psychopath?

    Perhaps I can recommend some books….

  • martin says:

    I can only assume that Ron hasn’t posted anything yet as he doesn’t want the PKGers to think about it.

  • Well, Martin, I have posted something. It’s Herbert Armstrong’s Tangled Web by David Robinson. Reading through the book again (online) reminded me of Ronald Weinland’s characteristics, where he doesn’t care about anyone but himself. Ronald Weinland is a pathetic shadow Herbert Armstrong wanna be — with all the flaws and none (if any) of the benefits.

    It should be noted that Robert Coulter has just published a book about the Church of God Seventh Day. I’ve ordered two copies. He debunks what Herbert Armstrong has said. The book is sure to either be resoundingly condemned by Armstrongists or conveniently ignored. It’s hard to argue with the facts, but as we have seen here with Ronald Weinland, the scoundrels find a way.

  • juror bags says:

    Ron and Laura do not want them “thinking” about anything but sending that tithe cash to the Luxury Fund P.O. Box. They have bills to pay, BMW’s to maintain, expensive clothes to buy, and “church” expenses like these to worry about. No time to think, just send God’s money in so these con-artists can afford a plush and prosperous lifestyle on your dime.

    No thinking involved. It is do as Ron the Con and his larger than life bill board assed wife say to do. No thinking require. Just DO NOT forget that P.O. Box. CON-ARTIST, PIGS!

  • juror bags says:

    You think this stuff is crazy now. Just wait until Ron the Con starts getting Alzheimer’s and the likes.

    Hey Laurdass and Audrass, I have heard that Victoria Secrets is sponsoring a PIGS in PANTIES competition at the county fair this summer. You should enter. Then you could also enter the HOGS in HEELS at the state fair. OINK, OINK!

  • Juror Bags, pigs and hogs are not quite the right representation, because pigs and hogs are semi domesticated. No, Laurdass and Audrass are wild aggressive feral boars. (When they talk, they are bores.)

    I slopped hogs when I was young growing up.

    It’s not a pretty sight.

  • Byker Bob says:

    Oh, this is hilarious! The two gossips getting a taste of their own medicine! Hope this site is a part of their regular reading routine.

    Oh, and Ron should sign his letters in the inimitable fashion of Mick Jagger, like “Pleased to meet you! Hope you guess my name!”

    BB

  • Byker Bob, chances are that this blog is their fave. It’s irresistible for egomaniacs to see what other people are saying about them.

    And those who may object that we shouldn’t say anything bad about others probably never read what Proverbs says about women like this and missed what Jesus said to the Pharisees.

    How about Audra saying she’s not married (questions about the Marriage License?!) and Jesus saying, “Well thou hast said ‘I am not married’ for thou hast had two husbands”.

    Wonder where the boars are this morning and what slop they’re rooting up on the Sabbath (can they get truffles at Starbucks? I don’t frequent the place.) Preparation day for them is planning how to put lipstick on their pig faces.

    Oink, Oink, you two.

  • Having slopped hogs when I was young for my parent’s pig pen, I know the proper way to get Laudrass and Audrass to church Sabbath services:

    “Here piggy, piggy, piggy.”

    Have a great time eating out in a restaurant on the Sabbath with PKG money and hope the restaurant has a big enough trough for you.

    Meanwhile Boss Hogg is back at the Pen.

  • juror bags says:

    OK Becker,
    I’ll agree to the boars thing. I am sure the Money Brothel Boars are having a GREAT TIME spending money eating out today. After all they need to be spreading the gospel today since they are out of town spending God’s money during their travels. Right?

    I think these feral boars confuse chewing food with spreading the gospel though…………….. They also confuse it with shopping, buying endless amounts of high dollar jewelry, fueling up the BMWs for travels, various PERSONAL EXPENSES and ENTERTAINMENT, and filling their fat asses up eating out on God’s money.

    These BRAZEN BOAR PIGS enjoy slopping themselves on others hard earned money and they are obviously very good at it. All while the poor prison bitch sits all alone scribbling #2 insanity to enable them to continue life in the lap of luxury.

  • Missing from the canon of Scripture is the Proverb 32 chapter on the wife of a false apostle.

    She is a woman who the members of the congregation cannot safely depend upon for she taketh the spoils. Her mouth pours forth gossip about them in the field, in the store, everywhere she goes. She does them no good, but evil all her life. She is unwilling to work for others, but is very willing to let them work for her. She is like pirate ships that plunder far and wide. She spends money her husband stole as she shoppeth Victoria’s Secret. Her fingers are adorned with expensive jewels she does not deserve. She driveth the expensive chariot adorned with every exquisite luxury. She ariseth late in the morning for her trip to Starbucks. She perceiveth that her merchandise is good because she hast bought it with all the money from her cult. She is not afraid of snow for her husband because he is in prison as a convicted felon. Her clothing is silk and purple, we think, since we can’t see what underwear she is clothed withal. She wears girdles from the merchant. She opens her mouth with crap. In her tongue is lawlessness. She looks to herself and eats the bread of idleness. Her children rise up and take what she gives them from the church. Her husband praises her by giving her a ridiculous title. Many daughters have done viciously, but she has takeneth the cake (and eateneth it too). Favor is deceitful and beauty is vain, but fortunately, she doesn’t have any and excels in scoundrelism. She fears not the Lord, but she is still praised for no particularly good reason. Give her the fruit of her doing and let her own works testify against her in the gates.

  • Juror Bags, I think the brazen feral boar pigs confuse spreading the gospel with spreading the manure and chewing the fat.

    Not an honest bone of integrity among them.

    If you squeeze them, will they not squeal?

  • juror bags says:

    Boss Hogg is hopefully getting porked in Club Fed by his lovely room mates too. He’s taking one for Team Weinland. Sponsered by the PKG Luxury Fund.

    Have a nice all expense paid tithe collecting trip BOARS! OINK, OINK! Here’s another title for you two swine……… Bill Board Boars. The green way to advertise. Greenback Collecting Big Butt Boars.

    Eat up! It’s free for the Queen and Princess. Sponsered by the PKG tithers. Nothing like a free lunch, Huh?

  • juror bags says:

    I bet Ron is doing some squealing.

  • juror bags says:

    Be sure to tip Uncle Sam his 46.9% on all of your current PERSONAL EXPENSES. Betcha Ceasar is getting his now and that is wonderful. HALF of the Luxury Fund now goes to Ceasar. Time for you hogs to get on a money diet.

  • martin says:

    Juror Bags…would you happen to know what the standard practice was regarding travels?

    Would the Weinlands fly out, attend a service, and fly back?

    Or would they string it out and stay the whole week at wherever they traveled and enjoy the sights?

  • juror bags says:

    Martin,
    They normally hung around for some time and myself along with others considered it vacationing. The service was an excuse to take repeated vacations. Another fact was that they frequently had extended layovers in Las Vegas.

    Just so you have an understanding as to how they operate I will explain Audra’s honeymoon with Chris her first temporary husband. They all boarded flights to “go visit” their congregation in Europe. In all reality it was a fully paid vacation/honeymoon where PKG tithe money footed the bill. I remember Audra being very vague about explaining where she was and why she was there. A blind man could see and understand the situation.

    Audra traveled around and did stuff with her tour guide (brother Jeremy). The Weinlands spend very little time doing God’s work when they are out and about traveling. I am sure they are doing more “church” work now trying to get some cash since the Luxury Fund is tightening up and the IRS is getting their 46.9%.

    Another thing I vaguely remember is something about a snow skiing trip. This is where Jeremy’s name came up and the prosecution was asking how he could afford trips and what he did for work. The defense tried to make it sound like he did computer work for the “church.” He also had no visible means of income other than mommy and daddy handing him God’s money. Jeremy never received a W-2 nor 1099 for his “church” income.

    We all knew he was just given money too. This is why I say they should have all been indicted. Every Weinland family member makes a living of of PKG tithes and donations. What is funny is the fact that NONE of them really work or do anything for this FREE CASH.

  • juror bags says:

    Another good example was Ron and Laura’s cruise ship excursion with deep tissue massages. I do not recall a PKG congregation being on board. Another words, they were not there holding any type of “church” services. Harrell or Wroek might have been along for the party. I can not remember at this point. I know Ron and Laura enjoyed their vacation though.

    What the Weinlands do is to try to write off their VACATIONS as a “church” expense when in all reality they are there BRIEFLY TO COLLECT DONATIONS and MONEY. After they do that it is PARTY TIME. They also tried to justify Laura’s travels being a legit “church” expense because she “counseled people”.

    We all know that her being any type of counselor is a figment of the imagination. Lies and B.S. Gossip is not therapy nor counseling. This counseling is so untrue because we all also know how Ron and Laura do that. THEY DON’T HAVE TIME AND ANYONE ELSE’S PROBLEMS ARE TRIVIAL AND DO NOT MATTER. It is all about the Weinlands and their money scam. They could give two shits about anyone else.

  • To Ronald Weinland: Happy Father’s Day, you self-righteous jerk. You set a fine example of how not to be a father. Congratulations.

    Anyone asking you in prison, “Who’s your daddy?”?

  • Randy says:

    Hahaha good one Doug !!!!! 🙂

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Well, it may seem strange but I am going to wish myself a Happy Father’s Day! 🙂

    Here’s why.

    I survived an extremely negative WWCG upbringing to eventually end up with THE most gorgeous and intelligent wife on the planet, and two amazing daughters. I did my best to be a good father but they really made my job easy. The kids got my German drive for perfection yet still manage to ‘enjoy the ride’ via their mother’s Vietnamese friendliness and easy-to-please nature. Yes, I am bragging, but here is my point.

    My kids give to charity, babysit the children of young immigrant mother’s coming to our house to learn to cook in my wife’s kitchen studio, have friends of all colors and religions, are secular but go to church/synagogue/mosque with their friends sometimes, donate their old clothes to a number of different charity clothes drives, canvas the neighborhood for the Canadian Diabetes Foundation (and usually rake in a lot of money because they are cute!), and so on. They are also becoming philanthropists: not only giving to charity, but also trying to come up with ways to contribute long-term solutions to many of these problems, e.g. a lemonade stand they pay young immigrant kids a ‘salary’ to run!! Of course, I am the source of much of their money to do so, but the effect is the same. They are building business and life skills that will serve them and the community well when they are off on their own.

    Here’s the point…

    My children are a scathing indictment of Ronald Weinland and his completely failed fatherhood. he has raised greedy, lying, self-interested children – kids that have no problem with taking tithes as a salary even though they do nothing, children who accept BMWs as presents on tithe money while the widows in their own church struggle to send these tithes!! These narcissistic pigs glory in spiritual abuse and selfishness, while my kids clean up the mess left by the Weinlands of the world. That is a FACT. My atheist children behave more like Christ ( a savior they don’t believe in) than any/all offspring of these pigs that walk like humans. They lift themselves up on the misery of others.

    It is indeed a Happy Father’s Day for me… my kids are not like the Weinlands, “thank God”…

  • juror bags says:

    Avalo,
    There is a huge difference in parenting between guys like you and I versus losers like Ron the Con. I also set the stage for my two daughters and son so they know that nothing comes free and easy. We could spoil our children but that is not what life is about. We instill the life skills and drive they need to succeed along with compassion and understanding. How can scammers and deceptive thieves like Ron and Laura possibly take any pride in who they are or what they do? They have no true pride. They are FAILURES as people and parents.

    We can also see what type of needy and self righteous off spring that produces. Audra and Jeremy are adults still sucking on pacifiers. Today it is stolen tithe cash. Yesterday it was a binky. Adult children like Audra and Jeremy who can not truly provide for themselves that have to suckle off of mommy and daddy’s stolen “church” money which proves they are worthless cons just like their parents.

    These people are parasites to society. Audra and Jeremy do know that their parents are SCAM ARTISTS and they also know their bread is buttered with the stolen tithe cash. Like mommy and daddy they do not seem to have a problem with the scam or theft of God’s money either.

    I am glad to know that once PKG plummets that Aurda and Jeremy will land flat on their asses where they will remain for the remainder of their lives. They have no skills, self direction, nor proper thought process to pick themselves up with. Daddy Ron has produced needy and entitled worthless off spring. Good job, Papa Ron! ANOTHER FAILURE!

    Hey Ron. Who’s your daddy? Today Bubba fills those shoes……. TICK-TOCK! You sir, are an epic failure in many ways that only real men and fathers understand. Move along now, Nut Case!

    Showing your kids how to scam, stealing little old ladies tithe money, and how to lie proves what kind of a worthless loser you are. Stolen money might have bought you and your family some temporary enjoyment but now examine all of the misery that is now unfolding. The misery will only get deeper from here on out. ENJOY IT! You and yours are very deserving.

  • juror bags says:

    To confirm my point. What would the Weinlands have if they did not have the stolen “church” cash? NOTHING! Ron would probably be some other type of deceptive scammer selling cars on a buy here pay here used car lot still screwing over the less fortunate. Laurdass would still be a fat, useless, unemployed home wrecking gossip whore. Audra and Jeremy would likely be addicts of some sort still living at home in the bad part of town.

    Think of it this way also. With all of this free money in the tune of MILLIONS what have they really accomplished with it? Audra has no college education and I do not think Jeremy does either although he did get the only PKG scholarship. What has Laura done to better her fat lazy ass? NOTHING. Same goes for Ron the Con and his lost kids. The Weinlands are lazy, thieving, losers. “It’s easy to spend other people’s money.”

    These thieving losers can not even capitalize on MULTI-MILLIONS of free dollars to do something with themselves. Therefore, when the P.O. Box dries up they will be NOTHING and have NOTHING.
    Hence they are WORTHLESS PIGS. Better yet they are lesser than that. Pigs make bacon and pork chops, so they are much more useful than the Swinelands.

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    I can add to this. I have two wonderful daughters who are college educated and have professional careers. My daughters are self sufficient and financially depend on no one!!

    My oldest daughter is married and has her own family, however she has maintained her own self worth and can survive on her own financially. You go girl!!

    My youngest is an accountant is ready to open her own firm. She is not married and at this moment is focused on her career.

    My wife and I never forced religion on them. Long ago my and I agreed that they must make that decision on their own.

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    Juror Bags:

    You are right on!!! THEY ARE PARASITES !!!!!

  • juror bags says:

    The only way the Weinscums capitalized on the MULTI-MILLIONS of dollars of GOD’S MONEY is by wasting it and blowing it on frivolous material possessions that depreciate.

    This is fair to say in regards to their real estate investments like the highly over priced home on the golf course and Audra’s loser condo purchase too. They have lost their asses on these places big time. That is why they had to pimp Joyce Garrett into using her home to post Ron’s bond. They have no equity and are STUCK with piss poor investments.

    How much are those expensive BMWs worth now? What good is all of the fine dining doing you turds now? The Weilands are wasteful idiotic PIGS that blow God’s money in very uneducated and pitifully stupid ways.

    Most people who have millions of dollars to use as they see fit use it wisely. The Weinland’s GREED has had a significant blinding effect along with turning them into moronic retards.

    My young children can manage money better than these dumbass PIGS! It wouldn’t be such a big deal if Ron and Company would have spent and lost their OWN MONEY, but they have STOLEN OTHERS MONEY saying it is GOD”S MONEY and simply wasted it all on stupid things and FRIVILOUS expenses in the process of destroying families and peoples financial well being. SICK, DEMENTED, F**KERS!

  • juror bags says:

    Elder pkg (no longer),
    It is lovely to hear of the success of your daughters along with Avalo’s two cute go getter gals. Enjoy it because you have earned it. I salute you two along with all other good father figures here and everywhere. Happy Fathers Day!

    Now look at yourselves and your hard earned accomplishments and compare yourselves to Ronald Weinland. There is no comparison. Is there? Good deeds do get rewarded. I am sure your daughters love and respect you guys too. Mine do.

    What kind of love and respect do you think Audra and Jeremy really have for their piece of shit father? Not the same kind we get from our kids. Ron has to buy what little he gets with stolen tithe cash. Truly Amazing and Awesome isn’t it? LOL! What can they put on Ron’s grave stone? Here lies a liar….or…..Ronaldo Weirdlando, bullshit “church” con of the century who was awesome at beating little elderly ladies out of their life savings. They will have to cremate Laura so she will fit into the burial plot. PIG!

    Hey Randy,

    Have I told you how much disdain I have for Ron and PIG Company lately? I DO NOT LIKE THESE LYING CON-ARTIST SCUMBAGS! Not one bit. When Laurdo’s fat ass gets tossed into the Lake of Fire attendees can celebrate with a PIG roast that day. Keep on fine dining and eating up Laura. Go get ya some of that there free “church” slop. Miss Piggy.

  • martin says:

    I do wonder what they will both say on Judgement Day???

    Ron “We overturned clear biblical commands such as allowing women to hold positions of authority over men.

    Contravened plain and clear scriptures that said the Two Witnesses are both men.

    Stole tithes. Used them to enjoy a hedonistic life style. Spent 99% of it on ourselves, and 1% for preaching.

    Preached countless heresies, like Christ is a created being.

    Stole from the government. Lied in legal matters. Made a lonely widower put up bond.

    So, what thrones do we get?”

  • So, what thrones do we get?

    Don’t know. Weinland can’t get the throne to hell because Satan the Devil has that and it’s doubtful that Satan has any incentive to give one of his servants his crown.

  • Randy says:

    Amen bags you say it all the way I feel ! Keep up the great work buddy !!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

  • Scripture says rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, which leads to the conclusion that since Weinland is a rebel, that makes him a warlock, his wife is a witch and the PKG isn’t a Church, it’s a coven, where the Weinlands have turned their members into zombies.

    It’s magical.

  • Randy says:

    PKG is a personal income for the Weinland Family Mafia, nothing they said was going to happen did, Ron’s in prison and the whores are out doing damage controll to keep money coming in !!!!!! If a profit in the name of God says something going to happen in Gods name and it doesn’t don’t be afraid to leave him! Think for your self don’t let the gossip Qween do it for you! Ask your self are you better of after you sent all your money to Ron and Laura ? They are and there family !!!!! Just think of all the family’s you PKG people help reck , children , women and husband’s and Grand kids witch Laua has none see, don’t even care about her kids just give them money, not love , Ron and Laura where never there for there kids , just always want money and power open your eyes and put your family first our you will burn in hell with Ron and Laura !

  • martin says:

    Nothing from false prophet Ronald Weinland.

    Probably his wife is too lazy to go over there and pick up anything.

  • General Motors is in the process of issuing a massive recall on their defective equipment.

    Perhaps Weinland is in the midst of intense preparations for the process of issuing a massive recall on his defective doctrines and defective prophecies.

  • martin says:

    PKGers and spies….

    Do you think God works this way? In utter darkness and confusion?

    The tribulation starts….stops….maybe it was spiritual…then we have a Day of the Lord (where nothing happens)…and another Day of the Lord for the world where don’t you know….nothing happens….then MAYBE we might have the Great Tribulation Reboot….and Ron didn’t mention if there was going to be a Day of the Lord Repeat.

    ASK YOURSELF. DOES GOD WORK THIS WAY?

    IS THIS EVIDENCE OF GOD’S WORK? OR EVIDENCE OF LIES, CONFUSION, DECEPTION?

  • The Weinlands are the prime example of cult first family mental midget morons.

  • martin says:

    I should have added

    IS THIS EVIDENCE OF GOD’S WORK? OR EVIDENCE OF LIES, CONFUSION, DECEPTION AND STUPIDITY?

  • Matt says:

    Now now people. It is perfectly simple. If Ron predicts something, and it does not happen, then that does not mean he made it up at all… Deut 18:22 or no Deut 18:22

    it just means that

    a: Everyone else was backsliding and this made God change his mind.
    b: God is testing your faith
    c: God is humbling you
    d: Something DID happen, but it was invisible.

    So you can see, there is NO way that anything is Ron’s fault, ever.

  • Duuno — God seems awfully stubborn these days not to allow a single one of the Weinland prophecies to come to pass.

    Wonder what the problem is.

    Like you say, Matt, it’s probably the PKG members’ fault — that’s who the leaders always blame because, darn it all, with their direct line to God (or maybe Satan who knows quite a lot about prophecy), they get the good word and then it’s all messed up by those darn members and God is powerless to make things happen if the members don’t have the true faith.

  • Randy says:

    Wonder how much cash the Weinland money whores took home from Detriot this weekend !

  • Randy says:

    What up asshole (Ron ) bubba got your head pinned to headboard ! God is not given no new info but the tightes are still coming ! May be Satan will give you a call ! Your new book will be bs like all your last ones in the mean time how many families you going to reack ?

  • martin says:

    I laugh at Ron….

    The first DOTL comes and goes and Ron has this spectacular revelation

    THERE ARE TWO DAYS OF THE DAY OF THE LORD!!!!

    What a pile of horse manure. The guy doesn’t have a clue, not a single clue.

    Ron doesn’t know up from down, black from white, he knows nothing.

  • Ronco says:

    PKG:

    Please Keep Giving to the Sweinland® Luxury Fund™

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    http://cog-pkg.org.w3snoop.com/

    gulag pkg has a “record low” in daily unique visitors on their website. The gulag had a spike in april but a free fall in may! I WONDER WHY?

  • Elder-pkg (no longer) says:

    I wonder if gulag pkg is planning a shift in policy. I wonder if the false teachings are going to be massed emailed to what is left of the membership instead of being posted on the web? I wonder if someone at the prison has broken the false one’s hand.

    Ronnie the longer you put off youR psycho babble the greater the risk of losing your “profit centers” attention!! Has the mid-night visitations come to an end? Is the “black widow” running out of venom to keep things going?

    How does it feel to be discovered for what you and your wife really are? FALSE FALSE FALSE EVERYTHING!!!!!!

    OUCH!!!!!

  • martin says:

    “I wonder if the false teachings are going to be massed emailed to what is left of the membership instead of being posted on the web?”

    This would violate the Rev. 11 prophecy
    Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

    If Ronald Weinland decides not to “testify” before the world court, that only means he’s a fake as the Two Witnesses are prophesied to preach before the entire world.

    Otherwise why would ” they that dwell upon the earth” send presents to each other, would it be over somebody they never heard of and don’t know? of course not, the whole world will be aware of and hear and know these two prophets.

    Ron is not one of them nor is Laura.

    They are both false prophets.

  • martin says:

    PKGers should realize this one simple fact.

    EVEN RONALD WEINLAND CAN SEE HE HAS NOT FULFILLED ANY PROPHECIES.

    Did you get that? Will that fact sink in?

    Will you just continue “just in case”, and simple fall into the “pit” with Ron the blind man Weinland?

  • martin says:

    Ron doesn’t understand WHY there are Two Witnesses.

    In the OT, and in the NT (that is, with the Two Witnesses), it was REQUIRED to have at least two witnesses in matters pertaining to death.
    That is, if a death penalty was required, there needed to be at least two witnesses.

    TTW’s are required to put to physical death anybody who tries to harm them, this is not an option, but a forceful command.

    Here is what I call, the Law of Witnessing. Also note how Ron violates EVERY ONE OF THEM.

    Here are the verses.

    Num_35:30 … but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.

    Deu_17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

    Deu_19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

    2Co_13:1 … In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

    1Ti_5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.

    Heb_10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

  • Plimsol says:

    Ron has a new post up.

    It starts:

    “In writing this series, True Fellowship, God has been revealing much to us that we have not known or understood in the past”.

    So he’s come right out and said it – he’s God.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Thanks, Plimsol. Ron’s latest now reposted on this blog.