A Rapidly Approaching Pentecost

This week’s blog posting by God’s most formidable prophet is a day later than last week’s.

_______ False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s latest _____________

As I begin writing this post on the Sabbath, I am nearing the end of a Church-wide fast. We have focused on our individual need to repent of sin, and we have also taken the next step of seeking to be shown more sin within ourselves    that we do not readily see. Our desire as God’s people is to get rid of all leaven and to become more fully humbled in order to grow in greater unity and oneness with God’s perfect way   with God. We understand that growing in unity is a life long process of which we must continually embrace and submit to.

Our way of life includes a continual process that enables us to grow spiritually closer to God by His revealing sin to us and our choosing to continually repent as He reveals it. Our evangelist in Australia, Wayne, gave a sermon last Sabbath, entitled, “A Way of Life.” It would be good to quote part of what was addressed in that sermon, as it speaks of the importance of seeking out God’s favor (especially as we did in fasting) to see sin of which we are blind.

This is the quote from that sermon: “If we don’t see sin or spiritual faults, how can we choose to change? So how can we choose to repent if we don’t see it? If we think we’re right and God doesn’t reveal sin to us, we’ll just continue on with that sin for the rest of our life. God must correct man’s thinking to bring him to Elohim.”

Although we always use Isaiah 58 as our guide in fasting, as each of us seeks repentance and greater harmony and oneness in spirit with God, this fast has also had another important focus. It is not only that we desire to have God and Jesus Christ dwelling more fully within us in order to stand stronger against an evil spirit world, it has also been for the purpose of seeking God that He would remove more and more of the power of Satan and the demonic world to the day that they are spiritually bound for 1,000 years. The removal of Satan and the demons will help fulfill, in a most powerful way, the result for mankind that is pictured spiritually in Isaiah 58.

We are now just a few weeks away from Pentecost and of our hope in the return of Jesus as the ruling Messiah   the Christ. There is much to be fulfilled and a very short time for it to happen. For “what is” now, as always, we press forward and battle against that which fights against God. In the present truth, we are focused on the fulfillment of Pentecost on its grandest scale yet.

In the last post, a spiritual world war was addressed that revealed our need for this Church-wide fast. With the added important focus we had for this fast concerning an evil spirit world, there is more clarification that God has now given regarding our past and current understanding of the Trumpets of Revelation. This reminds me of a recent post where it covered that the ongoing revelations of God to His Church is likened to a puzzle where pieces are continually being added that clarify and more fully picture for us what God is working out. As with any puzzle, sometimes we find ourselves fitting a piece (or pieces) in the wrong place when God reveals truth to us and He does not reveal everything of that truth in some specific aspects. It is a process of ever moving closer to God in truth as we follow the “present truth” He has revealed to that moment in time. This process is also used by God to test and mold His people. It is like the important example of Herbert W. Armstrong’s life where God revealed to him the truth of the holy days, including Pentecost, but it was nearly 40 years later before God revealed the correct time to observe it.

This example of fitting some pieces in the wrong place as God is revealing truth, has been especially true over the past few years where timing has been a factor. This was true about when the job of the two witnesses began. Who they were was true, but He then revealed that the timing for their job was to begin later. Though we knew the countdown for Christ’s return had begun, we did not know God’s timing would alter that count until He revealed Christ would return on a Pentecost and not on Trumpets. As we came to Pentecost 2012, we had to address timing again as we entered the “Day of the Eternal.” Once again, the picture of what God was doing became clearer as some pieces of the puzzle were simply not yet fitted to the puzzle or had been placed in the wrong area. Such things are fully in God’s control as to how much truth He gives and when he chooses to give it.

For the sake of this world and for the sake of God’s people who have been fighting a long and draining battle, we are prayerfully at a time now where no more important pieces are out of place. Yet again, this process of how God reveals truth does show much about the means by which God has led His Church and through which God has tested and refined (by fire) us. Regardless of what is before us, we do move forward and never give up the fight.

The Prelude to WW III:
With a more meaningful understanding that God has recently given us concerning the use of the term “Assyria” for this end-time, coupled with the strong reality of a great spiritual war that has been raging against God’s Church, God is giving more insight into meaning contained in the Trumpets of Revelation. Over the past few years, God has been clarifying more and more to us about these Trumpets. One thing that God has clarified concerns the timing of a trumpet blast with timing of the actual occurrence of the event portrayed by the story in scripture of a specific trumpet.

The description of the trumpets were not written in a manner so that anyone could simply read and grasp truth about either timing or order contained in them. That is true about parables, prophecy, and actually the Bible itself for that matter. God must reveal the true meaning of it all. It was God’s purpose that mankind and the spirit world could not know what was written until God Himself reveals it. This is especially true regarding how God is dealing with Satan and the demonic world in this end-time.

In another recent post, the question was asked if we know for certain that the Second Trumpet did or did not sound in early April. We do not know. God has not revealed when the trumpets are blown, except for the first and the last. God has inspired it to be written that we will not know these things until they have already occurred. God has also revealed that there are many overlapping and intertwining events within the fulfillment of these trumpets.

God has not revealed it, but it may be that all seven trumpets were blown at the beginning, setting in motion those things that are to be fulfilled by each. We do not yet know, but we must understand that one cannot sit down and put these together in any kind of order, except for that which God has given as specific numbered trumpets. As physical human beings first, we generally try to reason along narrow physical parameters to put everything into place in a nice, neat, and orderly fashion. There is order to the degree God established it, according to His purpose.

Having said all this, we have been waiting, with the limited knowledge we have for the effects of the Second Trumpet to be made manifest so we might more clearly see where we are in timing and in the order of events. But God is letting us know that simple physical observation does not reveal such matters. This is akin to some limited knowledge God has given concerning the description of the Sixth Trumpet. This trumpet involves a massive nuclear exchange that isn’t made manifest until we are near the very end. It is because of this exchange (Armageddon) that God must quickly intervene with the events described in the Seventh Trumpet to stop this war. However, the events of the Sixth Trumpet are set in motion “an hour, a day, a month, and a year” (Rev. 9:15) in advance of their occurrence. God is now revealing to the Church that the Fifth Trumpet is the real prelude to World War III.

The Fifth Trumpet:
Close to a year ago, a sermon was given that addressed some of the issues of the Fifth Trumpet that did not fit into the original puzzle. This part of the picture was clouded and God began to help us see there was more we needed to understand, but that was only the beginning of His revealing more truth to us on this subject. It is truly a beautiful manner in which God progressively reveals truth to us, always moving toward greater unity and oneness with Him. I always marvel when I see the building process in action, as one thing is fit into place so that another can be built (added) upon it.

In the last few posts, God has been leading us to this post. Our Father has shown that we have not fully grasped the use of the term “Assyria” in prophecy. In this end-time, that term is not specifically about Germany any more than the term “Egypt” is about that actual country. Throughout the time during Philadelphia and Laodicea, it was believed that the captivity of Israel would be by Germany (Assyria), instead of understanding that it is about a captivity of government that has engulfed the scattered nations of Israel. It is with the physical interpretation of this that this piece of the puzzle seemed to fit into the Fifth Trumpet. Although it is through the leadership of Germany that the Euro and European Union brings to light the kind of captivity that has taken Israel, the Fifth Trumpet is actually about God’s Church, both the remnant and that which was scattered. Germany’s involvement is about events that occur throughout the fulfillment of the First Trumpet as a result of the resurrection of the old Roman Empire.

The greater meaning of the Fifth Trumpet is about a spirit war in this time we are in now. It is about power that is unleashed by a demonic world and yet there are specific restrictions upon that spirit world that God controls. Recently, the Church was given a four-part sermon from our senior evangelist, Johnny, on the subject of Christ’s final journey to Passover day. In that sermon, he referred to scriptures that revealed there was a great demonic war being waged against Christ at that time. God allowed this for a great purpose, but in the midst of it all, He was always in control of what could and could not happen.

The same is true for Satan and his demons concerning this final struggle before the Millennium in their fight against God. God has allowed them a time to stir the world into a final war, but they are highly restricted in what they are able to accomplish during that specific five-month period until God allows them to influence the final catastrophic events. Man, of his own doing and at some moment in time, would engage in great war that would end all life on earth, but God is controlling the timing for His ultimate purpose of salvation. Understanding what the world and the Church has experienced over the past few months will help give understanding to the meaning of this Fifth Trumpet. As I am unable to go into this in greater detail in a sermon series, a condensed overview will only be given in this post.

Attacks Upon God’s People:
God’s Church has been experiencing some of the most massive attacks ever from a demonic spirit world over the past few months. God has allowed this as a testimony to His remnant Church that has been growing in spiritual strength and has been fighting off such perverse abuse from that spirit world. As the last post indicated, there is a night and day difference in the condition of God’s Church today compared to the time of the apostasy when these beings easily defeated large numbers at that time. Yet during the past few months, this spirit army has not been able to defeat God’s people, as God is more fully dwelling in His people at this time. This is an awesome witness of the spiritual Body of Christ today just as it was such an awesome witness Jesus Christ gave in his life toward the end of it, as he stood firm against such power with dignity, honor, and grace as the Passover of mankind. These are things an evil spirit world cannot comprehend and neither do people who are guided by selfish human nature. Only God can reveal such importance, purpose, and beautiful meaning.

We have been in such a great spiritual battle that a Church-wide fast was called to address this and to seek greater strength and intervention from God. It was during this fast that God revealed what we have been living through. The demonic spirit world has continually fought against God and His purpose for human life. There have been times when these battles have been more intense, as in what the Church has now been experiencing. Those who are young have been the primary targets, but overall the young have stood firm. Some in the Church that have had greater experience in battle have not been attacked as severely as others. Yet there are some in God’s Church that have had great experience in battle but have been attacked on every side in a concerted effort because they are a part of the primary structure of the Church and have been targeted because of that. Again, the demonic spirit world has been losing their battle against God just as it has throughout time.

This five-month period described in Revelation 9 is poorly translated, as the translators did not know the specific intent (true thought) of what was originally written. Translations from one language to another cannot be done simply word by word, but must be done by the intended thought of the true meaning contained in the words. It is easy to read personal interpretation into such translating.

These beings emerging from the bottomless pit are the army of the demonic world and Satan is their king. God allows them to emerge in power one last time during the close of this final 6,000-year period.

The demonic world does not grasp what God allows them to do nor do they grasp they cannot accomplish more than what He lets them. This is just like the time God let them have power to stir up those who put His Son to death. The faithful angelic world was pulled back from intervening at that time, although Christ himself could have called upon legions of angels to fight; but instead, he submitted to the suffering that was necessary to fulfill the purpose and will of his Father concerning Passover.

Over the past few months the thrust of this evil army has been two-fold. First of all, it has been against God’s remnant Church and against those who were scattered due to the apostasy. Secondly, it is about the world, which will be discussed later in this post.

The Church and Those Who Were Scattered:
Over this period of five months, these evil spirit beings have been given power to attack, hurt, and mentally harass “only those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads” (Rev. 9:4). This has nothing in context to do with people in the world, but is about God’s people. A distinction is made concerning those who have the seal of God on their foreheads. These people are those who are to be resurrected as part of the 144,000 and cannot be “hurt” even if they were to literally lose their physical life, as they will be in the first resurrection. Yet this evil spirit world attacked many of these, but could not “hurt” them because of their part in God’s plan, for they are sealed and have already been tested to be those who will always stand firm until their change comes.

Then there are the others of the remnant (Church) who have suffered the most because most are younger (newer) in the Body, yet as a testimony to God, most have stood firm. This demonic world has also harassed and attacked many of those of the scattering whom God is preparing to draw as the 63,000 and who will eventually benefit from what they have been experiencing. Even though they are unwittingly unaware of it.

As verse five states, “They were not given authority to kill them.” God did not allow more affliction to be upon the Church (both the remnant and those of the scattering) than this torment and hurt, as most are to live on into a new age.

The World:
The first part of this two-fold attack from the demonic realm was upon the Church, and the second part was about their attack upon the world as they are seeking to destroy as much of God’s creation as they can by pushing mankind into an all-out nuclear war. That is their motive and that is their purpose. But for five months, God holds back what would otherwise lead into WW III much sooner. God is in control of all timing and what He commands is what happens: “And it was commanded them that they could not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree” (Rev. 9:4). This has literal meaning and it has prophetic meaning as with the First Trumpet.

It has been rather strange that this world’s economic system, and especially that of the United States, has held on as it has without already collapsing. Now it is easy to understand why that has been so. The reality in all this is that the timing is God’s. Much of His purpose in this involves the very means by which He uses to apply the greatest humbling impact possible upon the scattered nations of Israel. This command of God has also held back the massive destruction that will come in God’s time toward the very end. Once the five-month period is up, these beings will have great power to influence the final conflicts that will destroy so much of this earth. It is for this reason that nations have done much threatening and have rattled sabers, but nothing has happened on any large scale.

In the midst of these verses about this trumpet is an awkwardly translated verse that is about the world and has nothing to do with the Church: “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall seek to die, and death shall flee from them” (Rev. 9:6). Without spending much time to fully review all the meaning contained in some of these words and the misinterpretation of intent, I will only give an overview of what this is about.

It is not about people who are somehow seeking to take their own life, but it is partially about the insanity of many who desire to enter into war (which would eventually take their own lives), but have not been able to achieve it as of yet. It has been held back by God, and if it had not, this evil spirit army would have moved the world into a nuclear war already. There are men who seek to enter into war, but they truly have no concept of the devastation that will follow their foolish intentions.

As with God’s perfect timing that led perfectly into a very specific and narrow moment in time when Jesus Christ was to be nailed to a pole, so is God’s timing to intervene and prevent man from annihilating himself in order that large masses will live on into the Millennium. As with the perfect timing to bring about the Passover death, so God has perfect timing to bring everything in this world together to that specific and narrow moment when Pentecost begins.

As this post needs to go out right away, I do not have time to cover matters of the Second, Third, and Fourth Trumpets which already have events set in motion that will bring about their fulfillment. The affects of their blowing will become manifest at the end of this five month period of time. These also include in their midst a quick and final resurrection of power within the old Roman Empire that is short lived but produces devastating results for the world, including the United States.

The demonic world has already been moving this world into its final war and it has been waging a great spiritual war against God’s people. It is indeed a great “woe” to mankind. God’s people are being made stronger, though suffering in battle, and the world is about to be thrust into battle that has been thus far held back by God.

Once this five-month period of this First Woe comes to an end, the United States and the other scattered nations of Israel will begin their collapse, quickly leading to a final nuclear conflict unleashed as described by the Sixth Trumpet (the Second Woe). The Fifth Trumpet is the First Woe and it truly is the prelude to World War III.

99 Comments

  • martin says:

    Less than 4 weeks left…
    “We are now just a few weeks away from Pentecost and of ***our hope*** in the return of Jesus as the ruling Messiah”

    So it’s not a 100% sure prophecy? It’s a “hope” now?

    Summary of Ronald Weinland’s post

    It’s all spiritual….Everything happens after the 5 months are over….all those trumpets were blown but we don’t see it yet…

    Basically a huge steaming pile of horse + elephant + goat manure.

  • Jocko says:

    “Basically a huge steaming pile of horse + elephant + goat manure”.

    Martin, My thoughts exactly.

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland keeps dropping the hint bombs…..

    “our hope”, “we believe”, “God’s timing”, “move forward”

    Basically prepping his Church for more failed prophecy…

    It’s not FAILED PROPHECY in Ronald’s eyes, it’s GOD MOLDING + HUMBLING + FASHIONING.

    No Ronald, God does not mold or fashion his people by leading them into false prophecy after false prophecy.

  • Ronco says:

    Am I imagining things, or did Ron just kick the can 5 months down the road based on a 5 month plague in Revelation? Harold Camping did that when his May 21, 2011 date failed…

    October 21, 2011 came and went and Mr. C had this to say…

    http://fsiarchive1.familyradio.org/specials/greeting_03.mp3

  • martin says:

    No he’s saying that the 5 month torment started already (that is 5 months before this coming Pentecost)

    But it’s mostly spiritual at the END of the 5 months it happens physically.

    Ronald Weinland is exercising his skills a double speak, by claiming that the “they will seek death” is people “seeking” to go to war, not people who want to die because they are in torment from pain. But death will allude them (the war is prevented). How convenient.

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland also says the Trumpets are out of order.

    The 5th Trumpet has already blown…..but it’s all spiritual….until the end of it…when it’s physical…..

    If they gave out oscars for the amount of horse manure this guy produces out of his mouth….he would win a basket full.

  • Jocko says:

    Yes he basically just re-wrote Revelation 9.6 but that shouldn’t surprise anyone.
    Funny how progressive truth(TM)works, isn’t it?

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Ron says:-

    ” I always marvel when I see the building process in action, as one thing is fit into place so that another can be built (added) upon it.”

    I thought you were not meant to add to Revelation?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Another little gem from the PKG:

    “If we don’t see sin or spiritual faults, how can we choose to change? So how can we choose to repent if we don’t see it? If we think we’re right and God doesn’t reveal sin to us, we’ll just continue on with that sin for the rest of our life. God must correct man’s thinking to bring him to Elohim.”

    1. You can’t tell what sin is?! No wonder the PKG is such a cesspool! Seriously. You can;t tell the difference between stealing someone’s car and NOT stealing someone’s car?
    2. You assume that people can;t tell what sin is, like you are all a bunch of morons. Wait…that’s correct!
    3. Isn;t prophecy the EXACT opposite of a building process? Jesus returns in 2011, or 2012, or 2013. Building…OVER!
    4. Just how many more THOUSANDS of years is this stupid testing and building process going to take. It was PROPHESIED to be over years ago BY RONALD WEINLAND…

    …FALSE PROPHET.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Also:

    “This example of fitting some pieces in the wrong place as God is revealing truth, has been especially true over the past few years where timing has been a factor.”

    If you get it WRONG you are a FALSE PROPHET!!!!!!!!! There is NO such thing as wrong timing as right prophecy

    Jer 23: 16 – “Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.”

    How much more of a vain hope is Weinland’s backpedalling and lying?!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    READ THAT AGAIN:

    ‘fitting some pieces in the WRONG place…”

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ‘WRONG’ ANYTHING FROM THE MOUTH OF A TRUE PROPHET….

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    And let’s not forget:

    RON SAID THE TIMING WAS THE PROOF THAT IT WAS FROM GOD!!!!!! HE SAID THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THIS TO BE FROM GOD WHEN IT HAPPENED E-X-A-C-T-L-Y AS HE SAID!!! Thus, the timing being wrong = FALSE PROPHET from Ron’s very own mouth. Here si the last paragraph of 2008 GFW:

    “As the spokesman of God’s two end-time witnesses and as His end-time prophet, I have fulfilled my responsibility in placing the contents of this book before you. What you do with it is up to
    you. Indeed, only a very short time remains before it will be evident that I am who I say or that I am not. In the past 1900 years, have you ever read or heard of a publication from any
    religious leader who has made such claims, laying out such a precise pattern for the near future with such precise timelines? You have not! This is the evidence (witness, testimony) of the true God of Abraham!”

    1. “PRECISE TIMELINE”
    2. “THIS IS THE EVIDENCE…”
    3. ‘IT WILL BE EVIDENT THAT I AM WHO I SAY OR I AM NOT…”

    Ron’s latest blog post is, ACCORDING TO HIS OWN WORDS, proof that he is false! He has set the standard himself and then failed to live up to it! If he is God’s Prophet and has God’s word…how can he establish it then BREAK it?!!!!! The timing was the ONLY thing that separated him from a false prophet and in 2009 the timing was proven to be wrong, as RON HIMSELF openly states!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6KP8Yv6owo

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Ron ( ‘ol Bubble-‘ed ) has issues …………….. I don’t think they can be adressed, in his life-time.
    Dementia is such a drag, on a vibrant , and go-ahead kinda Minister ………. such as Ron, maybe his God has other plans ? 😀

  • Atrocious says:

    What a jumbled up mess of nothing. Ron can’t keep his lies straight with all that writing; doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. Just make sure he makes his sheeple feel like sh!t all the time so they’ll send in their money to make sure they have a spot in the kingdom. What an @$$hole!!! I hope the members get wise to his doublespeak and leave. Anywhere is better than there, as long as it’s not another splinter of WCG. They are all the same.

  • Good Lord!

    The 6th trumpet sounds before the 2nd trumpet; the 5th trumpet sounds before the 3rd trumpet — but we don’t know yet what order the 3rd and 6th trumpet are going to be in, since no one has really been hearing any of the trumpets so far, nor will they, apparently (the evidence of things not happening is that they are not seen). My bet is the 6th trumpet will sound before the 3rd trumpet.

    A great spiritual war has been raging against the church, and Conald Swineland has been leading it as the Pustule General.

    So in all that fasting so the man of sin within can be revealed, will Conald Swineland realize how evil he is — filled with heinous outrageous wickedness.

    By this time, the Prison Guards must be wondrously impressed with the spirituality of Conald Swineland — what an example he must set. They probably can’t stop laughing.

    Brethren, we all look to the time Satan the Devil will be released from the bottomless pit, as Conald Swineland makes egress from prison.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    The “Pustule General!!” LOL! Perfect description of Weinland!!

    1. The timing reveals it is from GOD.
    2. The EXACT timing is the EXCLUSIVE PROOF.
    3. “This example of fitting some pieces in the wrong place as God is revealing truth, has been especially true over the past few years where timing has been a factor.” -RW.
    4. False Prophet YET AGAIN BY HIS OWN WORDS.

    EVERYTHING we have been saying here at this blog is reflected in Weinland’s own statement! We have said for YEARTS Ron’s timing was totally wrong thus he is a false prophet! We have said it over and over, and this is what we have been cursed to death for, and called mockers for. We have said THAT VERY THING Weinland has just said…and yet the PKG still believe him? WEINLAND HAS CONFIRMED what we have been saying, and yet when HE says it is “God revealing “truth”?” If that is the case, that Ron being WRONG is God;s truth…then WE have been telling you PKGers GOD’S TRUTH all along! Weinland is now completely confirming what we have been saying…and STILL he pretends that GOD is changing 2000 years of NT Bible history just for the sake of one man in the Midwest of America who is in jail for FRAUD?!!

    Geez, Weinland could kill someone and the stupid PKG would believe it is “progressive truth” on the subject of ‘Thou shalt not kill’!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    1. Ronald Weinland then:

    “As the spokesman of God’s two end-time witnesses and as His end-time prophet, I have fulfilled my responsibility in placing the contents of this book before you. What you do with it is up to
    you. Indeed, only a very short time remains before it will be evident that I am who I say or that I AM NOT. In the past 1900 years, have you ever read or heard of a publication from any
    religious leader who has made such claims, laying out such a PRECISE pattern for the near future with such PRECISE timelines? You have not! This is the EVIDENCE (witness, testimony) of the true God of Abraham!”

    2. Ronald Weinland this week:

    “This example of fitting some pieces in the WRONG place as God is revealing truth, has been especially true over the past few years where TIMING has been a factor.”

    FALSE PROPHET.

  • JK says:

    Man, May 19th can’t come soon enough. Not that I imagine his poor clueless followers will even notice that it’s a THIRD failed prophecy…hey, Ron, have you read what the Bible says about false prophets? Hint: nothing good.

  • martin says:

    Rev 9:6 “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. ”

    Ronald Weinland’s hilarious interpretation : men shall seek war, and desire it, but war will flee from them. (ie war will be avoided)
    This was fulfilled because….look….no war….

    That has got to be the most ridiculous sewage to pour out of Ron’s mouth that he’s ever said.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    May 19th will be yet another day when the PKG sheeple just keep on believing in lies. Why would they change now? They have seen Weinland be thrown in jail for fraud, completely reject and negate the Bible, call false prophecy “progressive truth,” lie on his daughter’s marriage certificate, curse us to DEATH, and ship a custom BMW to Germany for his son. They have heard him lie on radio and at IdeaCity in Toronto. They have seen him do EVERYTHING that the Bible says is the mark of an anti-Christ and a false prophet and yet they follow him. May 19th is just going to be another wonderful opportunity to be spiritually raped by Weinland, and they are going to line up for it with their underwear down, smiling about how awesomely spiritual Weinland is as he destroys them.

    They are not clueless, they are complicit. They are now equally guilty for aiding and abetting…

  • martin says:

    Just to be clear
    2nd Trumpet has been blown
    3rd Trumpet has been blown
    4th Trumpet has been blown
    5th Trumpet has been blown (well sort of)

    Nothing to show for any of them. No visible evidence of any kind whatsoever.
    We just have to take Ronald Weinland’s word for it.

  • Rterlecki says:

    What if, it’s going to happen someday just keep sending money and fasting P.K.G members. Mean while ill just sit here in prison for not paying tax on all that money I stole from you keep it coming and I will make sure you are one of the sealed 144,000. Amen. Lol

  • bilbo says:

    I don’t even know what to say to this. At this point there is not a single detail left that he has not reinvented after failure. He is (always was) making stuff up as he goes, hoping some random event in the world makes people believe him. I really hope this implodes. I say that because there is no objective evidence of any kind that God is backing this retarded cult.

    He said the timing, and prophecies that were given to him to reveal/know, are now somehow ambiguous and that it does not matter. What a lying psychopathic con man. You people following him like a celebrity, have fun wasting your life on a parasite living off your labor.

    This post was the most retarded one ever, and the ones before were pretty bad. Just full of psychological manipulation tactics.

    Ron’s ministry: “I’m a levite, pay me, because I say so, you don’t want God to smite you do you?”

    The antidote:

    Deuteronomy 18:18-22

    18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

    19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

    20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

    21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?

    22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    Funny how they skip this part, but always make a point of awkwardly mentioning Leviticus 23 (the part where you send them money).

    If Ron was the end time prophet, the things he arrogantly trumpeted like God’s own word would be true. Because it would have been from God, and it would have come TRUE. Now he can’t even keep his changing lies straight.

  • bilbo says:

    Emphasis:

    21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?

    22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    Very very simple. A child could figure it out. Having doubts? Wondering if someone is for real? God does not threaten. He makes it easy to tell. If they are for real, they will speak in my name, and things will come TRUE. Then you take it seriously.

    If they are scamming you, they will speak in my name, and it will not come true.

    Now, for a gold star sticker, which one of those does Ron fall into? Exactly. You do NOT have to be afraid!!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ron says: “God has not revealed it, but it may be that all seven trumpets were blown at the beginning, setting in motion those things that are to be fulfilled by each. We do not yet know, but we must understand that one cannot sit down and put these together in any kind of order, except for that which God has given as specific numbered trumpets. As physical human beings first, we generally try to reason along narrow physical parameters to put everything into place in a nice, neat, and orderly fashion. There is order to the degree God established it, according to His purpose.”

    1. “We can’t put these in order.” JESUS CHRIST DID IN THE BIBLE (SEE THE BOOK OF REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST!!!)!
    2. “It may be that all seven trumpets have blown.” You’re the f-ing PROPHET, Ron! YOU are supposed to know because you have claimed GOD revealed all this to you!
    3. “one cannot sit down and put these together in any kind of order.” JESUS CHRIST DID, Ron.
    4. “There is order to the degree God established it, according to His purpose.” That’s right, Ron. AND IT’S CALLED THE BIBLE.

    So Ron says that the trumpets DON’T have to be in order. Let;s see what the BIBLE says about that:

    *Revelation 21:18-19*

    “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall ADD unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall TAKE AWAY from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

    RONALD WEINLAND HAS TAKEN AWAY THE ORDER OF THE TRUMPETS, AND HE HAS ADDED NEW EVENST, SUCH AS THE TWO WITNESSES NOT DYING INT HE STREETS OF JERUSALEM, PHYSICALLY.

    RONALD WEINLAND IS NOT IN THE BOOK OF LIFE AND NIETHER ARE THE PKG…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    PKG members;

    If you think you are set apart, read this and know that you are heading in the same direction thanks to you false prophet/liar/criminal leader…what are YOU going to do when Weinland does all this to you?

    http://armstrongismlibrary.blogspot.ca/

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland’s imbecility never ceases to amaze me, and more that people are still following this EASILY proven false prophet.

    If there is NO ORDER to the trumpets, then please explain this verse.
    Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

    The second woe comes, then is past, then the third woe follows right after.
    IN AN ESTABLISHED ORDER.

  • What happens when the 8th trumpet sounds?

    Has the 8th trumpet already sounded?

  • martin says:

    The LAST 3 TRUMPETS HAVE AN ESTABLISHED ORDER.
    Ronald Weinland is just lying through his teeth.

    The bible is EXPLICIT, there is AN ORDER

    1st Woe = 5th Trumpet
    2nd Woe = 6th Trumpet
    3rd Woe = 7th Trumpet

    Rev 9:12 The first woe is past. Behold, AFTER these things yet come two woes.

    Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

    First woe occurs THEN AFTER THAT the second woe occurs
    THEN AFTER THAT the third woe occurs.
    So that trumpets 5,6,7 ALL OCCUR IN SEQUENTIAL ORDER.

  • martin says:

    Ron said “except for the first and the last.”

    So let’s see the tally….

    Ron said the 1st trumpet is indeed first (and has occurred)
    Ron also say the 7th trumpet is indeed last (even Ron is not moronic enough to say otherwise)

    So we have trumpets 1, 5 ,6 , 7 occurring SEQUENTIAL ORDER as proven by bible.

  • martin says:

    Trumpets 2,3,4 also have an order, but it’s more important to prove/establish the order of trumpets 5,6,7.

    The reason being, the order discredits Ronald’s testimony (the fact that none of them have occurred yet didn’t help him much).

    The horse baloney, where they are “blown” but we don’t see anything yet, is utterly moronic.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ron says: “There is order to the degree God established it, according to His purpose.”

    1.Then changing it as Ron has is the dictionary definition of DIS-ORDER: as God ordered it int he Bible and Ron has altered the order.

    2. God is ‘perfect’, thus Ron;s disorder is NOT perfect and is anti-God.

    3. The BIBLE says to test things, but Ron says we CAN’T test things because we are too human. THIS OPPOSES GOD;S WORD.

    And another Ronald Weinland lie and false teaching is revealed…

  • Whisper01 says:

    I must admit that I thought more would fall out of Weinlands cult just like many/most fell our of Campings Cult.
    Camping went on to have a bonus 5 month “you don’t have a prayer in hell” rest period before the 2nd coming fell apart.
    But I don’t think Weinlands cult will do this, most just cling on keeping the motions going while the train goes nowhere.
    But then Weinlands cult is so very small while many listened to and followed the words of Camping.
    It’s a good click, have a small tightly knit group of givers so he can continue to earn a paycheck for verbally keeping them in thrall.
    Seemingly it is much harder to break up such a small group than the larger ones. Of course Camping seemingly had a much higher agenda while Weinland keeps his numbers small.
    That’s not to say Weinland didn’t want a large following, he was simply incapable of gaining such.
    But he gets to keep his niche, his cult, to support him.
    I rather guess that May 19th will do nothing at all. As Alvo states – they will all line up with their underwear around their ankles, just grinning and smiling, waiting for each to be raped in turn.
    Go figure?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Let’s review the first 4 Trumpets:

    1st Trumpet = hail/fire mixed with blood. and a third of EVERYTHING destroyed.
    2nd Trumpet = mountain-like thing falls into the sea
    3rd trumpet = star falls and poisons the water. people die from drinking it.
    4th trumpet = a third of the sun/moon and stars are ‘struck’ by something and turn dark.

    So, Ron? CAN’T TELL IF THIS HAS HAPPENED OR NOT? How is a a mountain falling into the sea and the sun turning dark “spiritual”?

    False prophet. Bible changer. Liar. Criminal. Anti-Christ…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    23 days left Ron…what new LIE about Jesus Christ are you going to invent this time with your EXACT timing that FAILS?

    I spit on your false god and your criminal ministry…

  • martin says:

    I can also add trumpet #2 to being ordered.

    It Must Be In Order….as Ronald admits to trumpet #1 being FIRST thus the 2nd trumpet must be next, and therefore 2nd.

    So therefore we have 1,2,5,6,7 in provable sequential order. That leaves trumpets 3 and 4 “ambiguous”.

  • martin says:

    Rev 8:13 And I saw and I heard one angel flying in mid-heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, from the rest of the voices of the trumpet of the three angels being about to sound!

    We already established trumpets 5,6,7 being in order.

    But this verse also shows that these LAST 3 TRUMPETS sequentially follow AFTER the first 4 trumpets.

    So yes Ron you imbecile, there is an established order.

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland has stated that the 5th trumpet has already sounded, but of course this flies in the face of the previous proof, that trumpets 5,6,7 follow AFTER trumpets 1-4.

    More abundant proof that Ronald Weinland is a false prophet as well as an idiot.

  • Ronco says:

    Perhaps Ron’s blog post would make more sense if Hillbilly Harrell® read it out loud like he did in last week’s sermon.

    Anyone remember the Hillbilly Bears cartoons? I haven’t seen them in decades.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFWXVVdvoA

    Awesome!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ron says: “Once this five-month period of this First Woe comes to an end, the United States and the other scattered nations of Israel will begin their collapse, quickly leading to a final nuclear conflict unleashed as described by the Sixth Trumpet (the Second Woe). The Fifth Trumpet is the First Woe and it truly is the prelude to World War III.”

    LIES.

    NOTHING Ron says is going to happen in three weeks. he is a lair and a criminal and a fear junkie.

    LIAR.
    FALSE PROPHET.
    SCUMBAG.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    …and in the SAME blog he says he doesn’t know when the Trumpets will take place:

    “God has not revealed it, but it may be that all seven trumpets were blown at the beginning, setting in motion those things that are to be fulfilled by each. We do not yet know, but we must understand that one cannot sit down and put these together in any kind of order, except for that which God has given as specific numbered trumpets.

    YET at the end he says:

    “Once this five-month period of this First Woe comes to an end, the United States and the other scattered nations of Israel will begin their collapse, quickly leading to a final nuclear conflict unleashed as described by the Sixth Trumpet (the Second Woe). The Fifth Trumpet is the First Woe and it truly is the prelude to World War III.”

    HE JUST NEGATED HIS OWN WORDS FROM MERE PARAGRAPHS EARLIER IN THE SAME POST!!!! HE HAS JUST SAT DOWN AND PUT THESE “TOGETHER IN AN ORDER,” THE VERY THING HE SAYS ONE CANNOT DO!!!

    How can you f-ing PKG morons tolerate this horse poop?!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ron says: The greater meaning of the Fifth Trumpet is about a spirit war in this time we are in now.”

    LIAR.

    Locusts physically attacking humans is “spiritual,”? Another one of Weinland’s rectum-derived spiritual “truths”…

  • Ronco says:

    OK Avalo, but what did you think of the cartoon?

  • gullible says:

    PKGers should be scared whenever ron fast, as his mind gets even more messed up than what it’s already is.

    I’m sure PKGers are getting their money’s worth as ron has just given one long speech of absolute total rubbish (that only PKGers can understand because of ron’s god spirit). The only thing that was really new was Rev 9:6. War has not started, so he needs use a bible verse to back him up (with his own interpretation). Can someone slap him on the head!!

    ron is ever more desperate of losing more members, making false accusation of demonic spirit (referring to Mike’s blog) attacking his members with more “massive attacks” in the past few months. If anything, the “attacks” is not more, but less, ever since ron’s in jail. But hey, ron needs as much people to stir people to attack him more for the next 4 weeks. Glad to be of help, ron. I know you’re lonely, bored in there and hate it when people start to forget about you.

  • Atrocious says:

    You know what I wish, Ron? I wish God (not your god) would come to you in a dream and really blast you for the way you have been dealing with the people who believe everything you say. I wish he would help you to see your own greed for money, power, prestige, and importance, and how you have lied and lied and lied for your own gain. I wish He would show you how blasphemous you have been and are, using His name to further your own agenda, claiming you’re one of the two witnesses, and apostle, a prophet, the one in place of the Holy Spirit; how you have listened to your own thoughts and claimed they were His. I wish you would wake up from that dream scared out of your mind, laying in your own urine and excrement from letting loose in your sleep. And then I wish you would finally come to your senses and repent of all you have done, publicly apologize to the people you have affected, and beg for their forgiveness. And then I would wish you would spend the rest of your life on this earth serving society in humbleness, with a changed heart and mind. Right now you have no idea who you are and what you have done. May God have mercy on your soul.

  • Oh, you mean like Psalms 50:22 — Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.

    Let the rending begin.

  • James says:

    Doesn’t Ron have work to do in the prison laundry?
    Where does he find the time to write this dribble?

  • Jocko says:

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  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Uhhhh…abortions, hooker, and stripper poles?

    Message to “1 of the 12”:

    Let me put it this way: It is LIBEL to use such demeaning language about Laura/Audra Weinland. It is one thing to expose their clear and obvious falsehoods. It is another thing to INVENT insulting and misogynistic attacks on their gender. I hate the Weinlands, and have NO love for their actions as members of the CoG-PKG. But I won’t sit around and let them be degraded for being women. You are a troll and a bully and a coward . Grow up.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    I’m not a lawyer, but I imagine Mike would have to be very careful about his own posts, and those of the commentators on this blog.

    I also understand 1 of the 12’s anger about Ron and his wench, and family.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Woke up this morning, needed to edit “1 of 12″s comment quite a bit.

    Ron and Laura have done enough verifiable bad things that it’s not necessary to make any up.

  • Don D says:

    Here’s my very simple summary of Ron’s latest long diatribe. (How the heck does he prepare his posts? Does he have access to word-processing and printing? Or does he write it all out in longhand? Does he dictate it all to Laura or Audra?)

    Ron is simply saying:

    “AHM…… FOLKS…….. I THINK I MIGHT JUST HAVE GOT IT A LITTLE BIT WRONG ONCE AGAIN Y’KNOW, BUT………….AHM…………. DON’T WORRY…………… GOD WILL PUT ME RIGHT AND I’LL PASS HIS UPDATES ON TO YOU AFTER MAY 19th. BUT……….PHEW…………..THOSE MOCKERS ARE GETTING OUT OF HAND, AREN’T THEY? DON’T WORRY……….GOD WILL PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE……..AFTER THE 19th…………YEAH………….. YOU JUST WAIT AND SEE. PROBABLY…………… NO, MOST LIKELY!!

    OH, I DUNNO……………… I SOMETIMES WISH I COULD JUST GET ONE PROPHECY RIGHT…………..YA KNOW……………….AHHHMMM………….!!!”

  • Charlie says:

    I love these constant references to “The spirit world be stirred up” and “A great spiritual war is being waged against the church” and so forth. 1) How the hell would you know anyway? 2) I am completely unimpressed with the powers of the spiritual warriors…If the best they can do is make people hear footsteps, doors slam, and light fixtures swing…whoop de doo.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Compare:

    1. CoG-PKG website: “Ronald Weinland, who is the pastor of God’s Church on Earth, has also been appointed by the God of Abraham as His end-time prophet to foretell the final events leading up to Christ’s return.”

    2. Ron’s blog: “…it may be that all seven trumpets were blown at the beginning, setting in motion those things that are to be fulfilled by each. We do not yet know, but we must understand that one cannot sit down and put these together in any kind of order, except for that which God has given as specific numbered trumpets.

    1. I am God;s prophet!

    2. Uh, i have no idea what is going to happen and/or when, and my exact timing that exclusively proves it is from God has been wrong. Maybe some Trumpets have blown, maybe all of them, no one knows. I certainly don’t!

    WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS ALL ALONG, AND RON HAS BEEN SAYING THAT WE WERE WRONG ABOUT HIM NOT KNOWING. Yet again he admits that he is wrong, and still he persists in calling himself a minister and a representative of God.

    Hell awaits, Swineland…

  • Atrocious says:

    Ron, just give it up, why don’t ya! You know, you KNOW that you are in way over your head, you have no idea what you’re talking about, and you KNOW everything that comes out of your mouth is rubbish! Just give it up! Quit writing all this drivel. You just keep proving over and over again that your mind is a confused conglomeration of empty cells. Your followers are getting wise to you, you know. You don’t make any sense and you’re trying to tell yourself that you do. Or at least hoping that your followers buy into everything you’re saying. C’mon, Ron, just give it up. Quit while you can. Lay down your pen and make paper airplanes out of your paper; maybe you can learn some useful origami and make someone smile.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Atrocious:

    No matter how completely right you are about Weinland (and you are indeed at least 1,000,000% right!), he stands to keep on making millions od DOLLARS, and this is what he is willing to do to get them. Lie, pretend to be a minister, lie on his daughter’s marriage license, lie to the government and be jailed for it, lie about Jesus, lie about the future, lie about, lies, lies, lies. He has found people stupid enough to think lies are truth, so why would he stop? he has ZERO shame, zero decency, zero compassion, and zero morals. Sociopaths never do.

    Sociopaths exist and thrive because there is a segment of the population that are so scared of taking responsibility for themselves that they sell their soul to anyone that comes along promising easy, fake answers to fill them with false hope. There are some though that are fooled and are temporarily captured when they are in an emotional weak state. These EXTREMELY WISE peopel wake up and leave. The rest lay around with their heads int eh sand hoping that their tithes will guarantee their safety from all the imaginary nuclear wars and Tribulation their con-man leader invents for them. They feel scared, he makes them feel safe, they think he has actually done something. They actually don;t care if he steals their money and spends it on deep tissue massages. They have bought what they wanted, false hope, and he can do whatever he wants with their cash. Pretty soon they identify with their captor/rapist (Stockholm Syndrome) and start believing anything/everything Ron says because the idea of leaving becomes even more dangerous to their fragile egos than being socially/financially destroyed. Thus, Ron has openly admitted he is a false prophet and they don;t care. he could slit their throats and brunt heir bodies and the PKG would say that is it’s God’s Will, and it’s all spiritual an we here at Mike’s blog just don;t understand how murder is God’s “progressive truth” about killing. Next progressive truth coming up is how Ron can falsely prophesy the return of Christ 3x, get the dates and the times COMPLETELY WRONG, lie to the government and get thrown in jail, and so on, and NOT be a false prophet.

    THEY CAN GO ONLIN AS SEE FOR THEMSELVES RON;S SIGNATURE ON HIS DAUGHTER’S MARRIAGE LICENSE SAYING AUDRA WAS MARRIED IN THE USA WHEN SHE SAID IN COURT UNDER OATH SHE WAS MARRIED IN GERMANY!! They have conclusive proof Weinland is a liar, and they still follow him.

    They want to be destroyed by Weinland, and I am happy to watch them go down in misery.

    May 19th, 2013 – International Mock the PKG Day…

  • chacha says:

    Wow…really Ron. You have to come up with something better than that if you want to keep people on the hook.
    The trumpets may have sounded at the same time…may not of….might soon…ummmmm…

    doesn’t sound like YOU know. I thought YOU were a prophet? What is the “we put the wrong pieces of the puzzle in the wrong places…” crap. I thought YOU were given authority and power by almighty god himself?

    Did god lose the cover of the puzzle box so he can’t give you the slightest hint where the pieces go? Why…that’s just MEAN!

    *ppffftt!*

    Yup. All just waiting Ron…to see nothing happen AGAIN!

    *yawn* It’s getting old Ron.

  • Rterlecki says:

    Beware, the end of time as we know it is only 3weeks a way for the 5 or 6 time Ron Weinland says . So go spend your money take it all out of the bank cash in your stocks give it all to Laura even though the Dallor we be worth nothing, 2/3 of vegetation will begone are borders will be blown up no more presidents , millions of people running to get babitisted all this info God gave Ron and the poor man is sitting federal prison but the poor guy was persecuted . The picked on him just like they did Jesus . Hurry up pkg members or Ron will not let u be sealed in the 144,000 people. But he don’t have to worry he is sealed in federal prison for not paying taxes on the money he stole from his church members

  • Rterlecki says:

    I’ve never followed no man and I’ve been so blessed in life ! 🙂

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    3 weeks and NONE of what Ronald Weinland is saying has come true, as always. FALSE PROPHET. LIAR. THIEF. SCUMBAG.

    MESSAGE TO THE PKG:

    Well? Ron said that the EXCLUSIVE sign that he is God’s Prophet is the exact timing.

    NO Asian Hordes.
    NO millions of people coming tot he PKG to be baptized.
    NO trumpets.
    NO beast Power.
    NO destruction of the USA.
    NO nuclear war.
    Zero prophecy coming true form Ronald Weinland, who has called HIMSELF a Prophet of God.
    TITHES spent on panties, cars, diamonds, and gold.

    LIES.
    FALSE PROPHECY.
    THEFT.

    IS THAT GOD’S WAY?

  • Rterlecki says:

    Avo my friend so true 🙂

  • Rterlecki says:

    Ron Weinland is a fake, nut and asshole !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crook !!!!!!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ron says: “This command of God has also held back the massive destruction that will come in God’s time toward the very end. Once the five-month period is up, these beings will have great power to influence the final conflicts that will destroy so much of this earth. It is for this reason that nations have done much threatening and have rattled sabers, but nothing has happened on any large scale.”

    The FIVE MONTH period IS up Ron. You can’t torment someone or something for 5 MONTHS within the space of 3 WEEKS! Changing the Bible, times, dates, prophecies, and exact timing then saying God is the author if this? ANTI-CHRIST. The EXACT timing was the ONLY proof Ron said would distinguish his ministry from everyone else. So Ron is noW sayiNG that the timing is irrelevant…IF RON 2013 SAID THIS TO RON 2008, RON 2008 WOULD HAVE DISFELLOWSHIPPED RON-2013 FROM HIS OWN CHURCH FOR PREACHING AGAINST GOD’S WORD.

    CHALLENGE TO THE PKG:

    I dare any of you morons to post on this site a valid reason for believing Ronald Weinland, Now’s your chance. If he is supposedly so righteous, then why has he defied the Bible and changed Scripture, falsely prophesied, and been jailed for THEFT? Where is you proof that Ron is a true prophet? If he is of God, why an;t ANY of you prove it? You hide in your church like cowards. Where is you all-powerful God? Where are your true prophecies that prove you are the true church of god?

    If your God is so true and real, show him to us. Demonstrate it. The Bible commands us to test things to ascertain whether they are from God or not. Show us what is from God…the Bible says you should/must preach the Gospel. bring your proof here and show us this true God of yours. The Bible says test all things. Give us something to test!

    It is your duty as Christians.

  • Well, PKG, here is another challenge: Show us that you are not some weird version of Islam — after all, you believe in one “Allah” and Jesus did not exist before he was conceived.

    Which is it: Are you Christian, Islam, Christian Islam or Islam Christian?

    Explain it!

  • Sebastian says:

    Hi guys! 😀 anyone remember me? Just checking up on the nut job here!

  • martin says:

    Rev_12:11 And they overcame him [Satan] because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul until death.

    The TRUE SAINTS give a testimony. Not just The Two Witnesses.

    So if Ronald Weinland is one of the Two Witnesses, and Ron’s church is the true church.

    Then why haven’t the “saints” in his church given ANY TESTIMONY?

    That is what the bible says that they do.

    But no, they do not, they can not, because the reality is that there words would not stand up to any testing.

    Thus they can not be true saints. As they are not fulfilling prophecy.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Hi Sebastian! How are you doing? If I remember correctly you are the young guy who escaped Weinland’s sickness. Anything you need to know, or need help with?

    Talk to Uncle Avalokiteshvara… 🙂

  • martin says:

    Sebastion….did you bother to read the insane babble that Ronald Weinland wrote in his recent blog (above)?

    It’s a hoot.

    I do not mean to say the bible is a hoot, or the book of Revelation is a hoot….

    Ronald’s going mad, and it’s pretty evident in the incoherent mess of his writings.

  • martin says:

    all 7 trumpets are blown…

    we don’t know if they are blown

    we don’t know the order they are blown in

    we know the order of first and last trumpets

    trumpets 1-5 have been blown

    we don’t see the effect of the trumpets that are blown yet.

    All this babble is from Ronald Weinland’s deranged mind.

  • Ronco says:

    May 19th is coming up and Ron needs to figure how to kick the can the road soon…

    Does anyone have a theory?

  • Ronco says:

    That’s ‘kick the can DOWN the road’…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

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    Here is another little gem coming from a CoG member trying to fleece fellow COGers, this time NOT as a false prophet, but as a fake scientist who has secretly discovered a massive treasure and is trying to get the COGs to invest becuase it will make a profit of…are your eady? 100 BILLION dollars!!! LMAO!! Check it out:

    To fellow COG members and 45-year personal friends and thousands of you worldwide:

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    We know exactly where that bad boy is. Our job (Romans 9:17 ) is to raise him and his army up, plus raise $100 billion. We will reveal and expose to four billion people worldwide an 800,000-man infantry, 70,000 horsemen, 6,000 war chariots, all neatly entombed in the bottom of the Reed Sea. A worldwide on-site multimedia production and documentary of superior quality are planned. This is the unparalleled mystery of the ages.

    This unprecedented event will blast our credibility on the world stage to monumental heights. This is how we will fulfill the next two projects of destiny (Matthew 24:14;Revelation 10:11). Tons of Exodus proof demonstrates that our God exists. Serve and prosper, friends, because this is the big one.

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  • Yes! I want to know about the perfect red heifer — the daily sacrifice must be made to cease before Jesus can return, and since the Jews aren’t even having a daily sacrifice on the Dome of the Rock right now, it’s going to be awhile.

    What do you think, Avalokiteshvara — should we take cells from a perfect red heifer so it can be cloned some time in the future when the altar is finally going to be built?

    See — the two Witnesses can’t even begin their job before there’s this perfect red heifer. Are the Weinlands now going to get the PKG get them enough money for a farm to grow heifers? There can’t be the return of Christ without one: We must have our red heifer! We must have our red heifer! We must have our red heifer! Maybe Jeremy can learn about keeping cryro chambers for the clone cells and Audra can figure out the best equipment to have to clone the red heifer. The whole family is now responsible for the return of Jesus. I hope they can pull it off with the help of the entire PKG — this is a big project and needs quite a lot of dough to pull it off.

    So I want to know about the perfect red heifer. It is important to the prophecies of Ronald Weinland. There can be no return of Christ without that perfect red heifer.

    Or maybe the PKG can get together enough copper metal to construct the copper calf — it’s sort of like the gold calf Aaron built, but will turn out kind of a reddish color. Maybe that would be a suitable substitute. And we know that lithium is used in fireworks for making beautiful red explosions, so we could coat the copper metal calf with lithium to make it a red heifer, although it could get complicated. I’m not certain if iridium would do the job.

    Anyway, Weinland has to work these things out or he will become a false prophet.

    Near as I can tell.

    It may cost $100 Billion, so PKG, start saving your pennies (and conveniently, pennies are made from copper).

  • bilbo says:

    Wait, don’t tell me, let me guess. If you contribute just a small down payment on the effort, say, $10,000, you will be a part of making history and will share in $100 billion in profits.

    Oldest trick in the book.

    Now if you will excuse me, I just got an email telling me I won the Chilean Lottery! Better hurry up and get them their admin fees.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Bilbo:

    Forget the Chilean lottery! It’s a scam. If you want to really make a profit, there’s a Nigerian prince who needs to deposit $20 million into your account for safe keeping. I have never met him, but I am sure he is a stand up guy and will definitely use the transfer fee of $2000 that you will pay him to definitely buy an airplane ticket out of the country.

    It’s a sure thing…just like Weinland’s exact prophecies which are completely true…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Oh I forgot. As prophesied by Weinland, the US was destroyed in 2008 and whatever place you are living in now is the smouldering remnant of that once proud land. Strange isn’t it? The US was destroyed and there is no president, but Weinland is incarcerated in what must be the one jail left standing…

    🙂

  • bilbo says:

    Well I must not have the “eyes” to “see” that, because looking outside it is a beautiful sunny day, the trees are budding, the birds are singing, people are busily going about their day. And I smile and am thankful for that. Clearly I hate God.

    🙂

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    You see, Bilbo/ Ronald Weinland has no idea what trumpets are, what order they occur in, or what level of Reality they manifest in/on…because the BIBLE is crystal clear about that, and Ron knows that when the Bible is clear it is his job to deny/reject/alter it to show people just how Biblical he is.

    You see, green is a color. but since truth is progressive, green is now silver…you just don;t understand how that is because you don’t have the deep spiritual understanding Ron has assigned to himself. The sun didn’t come up this morning either, because you are only witnessing it on a physical level and hate God so much you reject Ron’s truth about how the Sun is now Tuesday, and the sky is a cat. You reject the fanged worm that has wrapped itself around Ron;s mind and whispers its Godly Truths in Weinland’s subconscious.

    That is why you can’t truly understand how powerfully salad Ron’s pancreas is when speedboat finally returns and establishes Trombone on Earth. But first there is going to be a major nuclear kangaroo after North Basketball takes over the Tokyo and the False Ice Cream forces everyone to take the Bookshelf of the Internet on their fourth hand…

  • martin says:

    Ron? Is that you?

  • Whisper01 says:

    “We will reveal and expose to four billion people worldwide an 800,000-man infantry, 70,000 horsemen, 6,000 war chariots, all neatly entombed in the bottom of the Reed Sea”.

    800,000 infanty? And your gonna lift these skeletal remains with moldy armor & weapons to be seen by people? Uh…. why?
    70,000 horseman? Skeletal horses & riders… put on display. Yummy, sign me up… not.
    If such moldy trapping, rusted metal and bone existed in the Red Sea would they not belong to Egypt? Would not the Egyptian armed forces be relieving any archaeologists of anything of value upon it’s transport to the top of the Red sea?
    Wouldn’t the Egyptian government be a bit possessive of such remains?

    But what the hey, I’m in! Where do I send my money.
    Maybe we’ll all get our very own bone of a long dead Egyptian! What a deal!

  • Atrocious says:

    http://www.mibba.com/Poems/Read/258645/The-Backwards-Poem/

    The Backwards Poem
    Ladies and Gentlemen, skinny and stout,
    I’ll tell you a tale I know nothing about;
    The Admission is free, so pay at the door,
    Now pull up a chair and sit on the floor.

    One bright day in the middle of the night,
    Two dead boys got up to fight;
    Back to back they faced each other,
    Drew their swords and shot each other.

    A blind man came to watch fair play,
    A mute man came to shout “Horray!”
    A deaf policeman heard the noise and
    Came and killed those two dead boys.

    He lived on the corner in the middle of the block,
    In a two-story house on a vacant lot;
    A man with no legs came walking by,
    and kicked the lawman in his thigh.

    He crashed through a wall without making a sound,
    into a dry creek and suddenly drowned;
    The long black hearse came to cart him away,
    But he ran for his life and is still gone today.

    I watched from the corner of the big round table,
    The only eyewitness to facts of my fable;
    But if you doubt my lies are true,
    Just ask the blind man, he saw it too.

  • jack635 says:

    You remaining PKG members probably think everyone here is against you.

    Not everyone is against you. More than everyone is against you.

  • Rterlecki says:

    Give it up PKG it’s not going to happen Ron and Laura are lier’s crooks

  • Ronco says:

    OK, I’m still looking for someone who has a theory on how Ron might keep the party going after May 19th passes uneventfully…

  • bilbo says:

    I have two running theories.

    One is that it will be something else random. He will pick a duration of time and a bible passage that describes it and weave that in to the timeline. What passage doesn’t even matter, there are so many that can be plucked out and “interpreted”. Fear will be dominant in membership acceptance of the new “piece of the puzzle” because nuclear war any minute now.

    The other theory is that he is trying to phase out the timeline type thinking. It was never about that, just do your tasks forever, until Christ returns, whenever that is. We now turn to Leviticus 23 and remind you to send money. Just shut up and live the way of life, dont question or horrible death and infamy awaits you. This will shrink the numbers more as more will leave, but those left will be stable, because those remaining have accepted the rewrite of history that there never were any specific “prophecies” and no claims were ever made that timing would prove or disprove, just about the way of life. Smaller but stable income.

    Which strategy will he go with? The recent posts show elements of both approaches. Setting up for failure and not to think about timing anymore, but also hinting at more pieces of the puzzle. We will know in three short weeks when the dotl is ended. If any of us are still alive that is.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    1. Exact timing is proof and this is what separates me from everyone else. I am right because I am the ONLY one who has the EXACT dates.
    2. The timing has been changed.
    3. It has nothing to do with timing.
    4. I never said anything about timing.
    5. Nothing is true or real until I…I mean God…say it is.
    6. Send money.

    Welcome to the PKG…

  • Ronco says:

    Thanks Bilbo!!!

  • Atrocious says:

    Avalo, “send money” should be at the top of the list, in the middle of the list, and at the bottom of the list. That’s what it’s all about, anyway, right?

  • Jack Davis says:

    Has anyone heard if it is true that Cincinnati lost a few elders yesterday. I was told Ralph Dowd, April Combs, Hope Henson left and also Rons brother in law Scott Cameron and Shawn Crystal.

  • I'm Smiling says:

    Hello; yes it is true about April Combs, Ralph Dowd, Hope Hensen and Donna K.

  • I'm Smiling says:

    Shawn Crystal and Scott Cameron have stepped down from the ministry.

  • Rterlecki says:

    Yes it true I just asked my mom 🙂 bout time people open there eyes to that crook, nut and false prophet . 🙂

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    MESSAGE TO THE DEPARTING MEMBERS OF THE PKG:

    CONGRATULATIONS!! It is very inspiring to see you taking the reins of your life again, and standing up to the liar that took advantage of your sincere desire to serve God – turning it into servitude to a False Prophet and Anti-Christ.

    As you know, I Avalokiteshvara, am an atheist. I don;t believe the Bible is true….BUT if one does profess belief/faith in Christ, there absolutely IS a right way to be a Christian and a WRONG way. You don;t have to like football to know that there are rules that define what it means to play football. You don;t have to be a hockey player to know that you MUST play by the rules! You members have stood up to a liar who has proclaimed a god that DOES NOT EXIST in the BIble. To accept these teachings is to reject the God of the Bible. To reject Ron is to CONFIRM the Bible, and confirm jesus Christ. The Bible has a structure, a core theme, and DEFINITIVE rules, regulations, and acts. God’s Laws and codes are the RULES.

    I am not a Christian, because I reject these rules…JUST LIKE RONALD WEINLAND DOES. The rules state that YOU LEAVING MEMBERS are following God’s rules: reject the false prophet, do NOT support him or proclaim his ministry OVER the ministry of Jesus Christ as laid out in the BIBLE.

    If the Bible is true, then it is GUARANTEED you will see me AND Ronald Weinland thrown into the Lake of Fire. Here is what is also GUARANTEED…Ralph Dowd, April Combs, Hope Henson, Scott Cameron, and Shawn Crystal WON’T.

    Congratulations to you all.

    You just made an ETERNALLY wise choice…

  • Leftatlast says:

    This is wonderful news. I believe that even more members will come to see that God chooses the time for things to happen..and that they’ll happen as God says they will. After all, Ron’s not doing too well in choosing the times and ways..is he! Not to mention that Ron’s don’t even come close to matching what God’s word in the bible says….. There is no mystical secret understandings and explanations required. The bible isn’t written, nor meant to be, hard to understand. To my mind, God says it plainly there, says what He means and means what He says. You don’t have to be an intellectual giant to understand it, or part of a secret or “members only” club to be favored with understanding.

    Like I said, it’s falling down around Ron’s ears. May it continue to crumble faster and faster until all are freed.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Good point, LeftAtLast:

    Weinland and his fellow scumbags are always decrying the human intellect as arrogance, like free thought is an arrogant act! Of course, when that intellect helps him STEAL money, it is all good. But when that same intellect PROVES that he is purposely lying about/twisting the Bible, THEN thinking is “arrogant”.

    Weinalnd: Think about how right I am. See? Thinking proves I am right.Now DON:T you dare think anymore. Thinking about anything other than what I say is to reject God and arrogantly defy me…I mean GOD…and shows a bad attitude. God’s word is not plain and nothing makes sense until; you think as I COMMAND.

    PKG Member: But Jesus says in John 5:24 – “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.” Isn;t that clear?

    Weinland: No. It isn’t. You don’t understand how God is working through me and showing us how turth is progressive and the exact dates and Trumptets have probably occurred and we can;t know unless God reveals things that are awesome and powerful in time and…

    PKG member: But Jesus says that…

    Weinland: Lok=ok! It;s all about the exact timing that changes and how God is leading me to reveal the spiritual nature of how trumpets are sounding and the Asian Hordes.

    PKG Member: But Jesus..

    Weinland: No! You need to repent and God is showing how things progress in time. You need to acknowledge sin, and Trumpets as God has revealed to me! There’s nuclear war and North Korea and Hordes!!! Now believe me and send your tithes, because it’s all about Trumpets and where God is leading us to tithe. The Bibel is impossible to understand without me, and jesus is spiritual and there’s 5 months and yet they don’t have to be, and locusts and it’s all spiritual and impossible to understand and Christ is always returning and Trumpets!!!!

  • Leftatlast says:

    The actions of the Weinlands, when held up next to what the bible SAYS, (and it’s not what they SAY it says, but the actual written words IN the bible that I am referring to), proves they are liar and Ron a false prophet. How many times are we on now, for failed prophecy? Four? Five? Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for it. Because we are ALL held responsible for our conduct and our choices. Just ask Ron, who is in Federal Prison, being held responsible for his THEFT.

  • J says:

    PKG members might want to read the book “When Prophecy Fails” and see if anything feels familiar, specifically their coping mechanism:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails

    Festinger stated that five conditions must be present if someone is to become a more fervent believer after a failure or disconfirmation:

    1. A belief must be held with deep conviction and it must have some relevance to action, that is, to what the believer does or how he behaves.
    2. The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual’s commitment to the belief.
    3. The belief must be sufficiently specific and sufficiently concerned with the real world so that events may unequivocally refute the belief.
    4. Such undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur and must be recognized by the individual holding the belief.
    5. The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence that has been specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, the belief may be maintained and the believers may attempt to proselytize or persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct.

    Sounds about right.

  • 9Skipper0 says:

    Just a thought Wrong & Liar would tell the PKGrs that they only flew cattle class when the were travelling the world and that the reason they stayed in 5 star hotels was they were cashing in the frequent flyer points
    Wouldn’t it be fantastic if we could find evidence that they actually flew 1st class? They seemed to do everything else 1st class or at least a far better class than most PKGrs can afford
    This would also be another nail in the COG PKG coffin

  • Don D says:

    On May 7, I predicted that

    * “Within the next couple of weeks or so, Ron Weinland will miraculously find NEW TRUTHS or NEW DIVINE REVELATIONS.”

    And sure enough right on target his most recent post gives us the new truth that while Christ may not return on Pentecost of this year, it will be on A Pentecost of some year! Nice one, Ron! Another Oh-So-Convenient-New-Truth suddenly appearing now that, as usual, nothing is happening in the rapid lead-up to the 19th

    I also predicted that:

    * “Ron will then explain what a blessing it is to be able to give the awesome news that God’s mercy has prevailed once again.”

    And sure enough. in his post he has reinforced this by using the word BLESSING or BLESSED no fewer than 7 times, and the word AWESOME no fewer than 6 times.

    I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that a “prophet” who keeps on getting his PREDICTIONS wrong, it just so PREDICTABLE!

    But what really amazes me is that all of these “blessings’ which flow from God through Ron Weinland, and all of these “awesome” developments over the past few years, have been in response to one awesome fact. And that fact is that NOTHING – ABSOLUTELY NOTHING – THAT WEINLAND HAS PREDICTED, HAS…………………..EVER…………………… HAPPENED!

    Now, I wonder what that might mean? Can’t think of an answer right now, but I’ll work on it…