Agent Palmisano Sorts it Out

Here is the second of my series of posts concerning Agent Palmisano’s testimony in the criminal trial of False Prophet Ronald Weinland. After finding numerous personal and church bank accounts, she found a number of credit card accounts. As far as loans, she found a mortgage and 3 car loans. After settling Ron’s July of 2008 motion to quash her summonses for his financial records from these financial institutions, she was able to obtain financial records.

Trial transcripts are available on the Criminal Case page linked in the banner at the top.  Agent Palmisano’s testimony is included in two parts:   Direct examination and Cross Examination with Redirect.

Agent Palmisano took the records she obtained and created a database of all transactions through Weinland’s personal accounts and did some accounting to ensure that the records balanced. Because Weinland commingled his personal expenses with those of the church, it was necessary for her to understand the operations of the church to decided which expenses were actually church expenses. For example, the charges for Google advertising were determined to be church expenses and not counted as personal expenses. In order to understand the operations of the church, Agent Palmisano also interviewed members and elders, including Terry Wrozek, Johnny Harrell, Ralph Dowd, and Steve Dalrymple.

Since Weinland commingled personal expenses with church expenses on his payments, particularly with his credit card charges, it was necessary to categorize them as to legitimate church expenses or personal expenses. She utilized information gained from interviewing church members to understand the operation of the church in evaluating expenses. After excluding expenses determined to be church expenses, Agent Palmisano grouped expenses paid from Weinland’s personal accounts into categories of personal expenses.

The first category was travel expenses for others in Weinland’s family. She excluded all of Weinland’s travel, even some that was probably personal. A good deal of this included travel for Laura to accompany Ron, but during Audra’s testimony it was revealed that payments were made for other family members to travel during 2008 when Weinland’s children were married. Weinland paid for his mother to travel from western Kansas when Jeremy was married, and travel for Jeremy’s wife from Europe and Jeremy and Patricia’s honeymoon in Cancun’. Chris and Audra traveled to Europe to get married.

Other categories of personal expenses were:
• Art, from various galleries and for tapestries, most of which was purchased in Las Vegas.
• Automobile. Agent Palmisano excluded all expenses for Ron’s BMW as church related even though some of his use of the vehicle was personal She did include as personal expense the other BMWs that Ron bought in 2007 for his kids.
• Cash, relatively small at around one thousand dollars.
• Entertainment. Including the Total Resolve Cruise and the Alaskan Cruise. Also movies, tours, etc.
• Fees and services, such as Dry cleaning, cable, items for pet clinic, pet resort, emergency systems, which is his security system, either his or Audra’s, Insight cable, TruGreen Chemlawn for lawn applications.
• Insurance, auto, homeowners, and medical coverage for Ron, Laura, Audra, and Jeremy.
• Jewelry, and the names of 10 jewelry stores were given.
• Lodging, particulary in Las Vegas.
• Medical, for unreimbursed expenses such as glasses and dental.
• Personal services, such as spa, hair salons, tanning salons, and a tailor.
• Retail. Seems that the Weinlands like to shop at Tommy Bahama. Also Victoria’s Secret, TriVita, and Nordstrom’s.
• Utilities, power, trash, phone.

After categorizing the expenses as personal, Agent Palmisano reviewed the list with Steve Dalrymple and asked if he could categorize any as church expenses. She repeated this process with Audra, but this was only after court action in 2009 which was needed to legally compel her to comply with summonses.

Three short weeks before the trial, the defense finally responded with records including receipts. Agent Palmisano reviewed these records which in the most part supported her earlier analysis. There was one credit card statement paid in January of 2009 which was after the investigation period, but since these were for December of 2008 expenses she analyzed them to make further adjustments reducing the expenses categorized as personal by around $200,000.

In December of 2008, Weinland made his third trip to Europe of the year and his second trip to Israel to kick off the restart of Ron and Laura’s tenure as the Two Witnesses, but in between took a vacation in Egypt (the real one, not the spiritual one). While I haven’t seen the actual records, I expect this was all categorized as a church expense.

In the next post, we get to the bottom line.

31 Comments

  • Atrocious says:

    It looks like Agent Palmisano earned her salary investigating RW, for sure. Mike, I sure do appreciate all the work you are putting into posting these updates and giving us a look into what actually took place during these past years of RW’s way of life. It just boggles my mind how RW has no conscience at all in the way he handled things. From what I take from this, RW still believes he’s done nothing wrong. Wednesday is an important day and I’ll be waiting eagerly for word of his sentencing. Good job (as always) Mike.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Amazing how a man of god could spend GOD’S money on expensive art when the world is supposedly ending…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Let’s review: (from Ron’s book 2008 – God’s Final Witness)

    “The proof of the validity of my first book, and now this one, is in the timing and the destruction that follows, EXACTLY as both books describe…”

    Liar…

  • Obviously, the Weinlands want the PKG membership to know what it will be like in the World Tomorrow when they can have all the perks the Weinlands have now and even more!

    Ah, the power, the glory, the riches will all be yours, (saith Weinland), if only you follow me!

    And PKG, you can rely on that because Weinland established his track record of credibility with the two books he wrote.

    Trust him!

    It’s too bad these sniveling retentive Federal Agents get in the way and distract everyone from the vision!

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Victoria Secret hey……. Lmao! *vomit*

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ugh! I just noticed that…dear God…Laura in Vic-Sec?

    *vomit profusely onto floor while crying*

  • Rterlecki says:

    When the asshole goes to prison tammie Faye will probley have a lot of Vic sec charges. There is no honor between thieves .

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Ava, the Victoria Secret was probably worn by Ronnie while Laura administered the ‘punishment’….

  • jack635 says:

    LOL Avalo. I will have to scrub the vision of Laura out of my mind with Crown Royal.

  • jack635 says:

    Kirrily you’re up early.

  • Rterlecki says:

    Kirrily lol

  • Rterlecki says:

    Pour me one
    jack makes it a double

  • Rterlecki says:

    Make sorry

  • jack635 says:

    I think that’s the only way to drink them Randy. Too bad there is no court restriction on Ron to prohibit him from drinking alcohol in his home prison.

    But he will be restricted soon enough.

  • Rterlecki says:

    Hahaha

  • Anon says:

    I am repeating these from other comments, but putting them here side by side for easy comparison:

    Deut : 18 22 “If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.”

    “The proof of the validity of my first book, and now this one, is in the timing and the destruction that follows, EXACTLY as both books describe…”

    Hmmm (looks back and forth at one then the other, scratches head) lol

  • Anon says:

    The ‘lol’ is me nervously laughing at myself because I cannot believe I was gullible enough to fall for this poop. but i don’t want to mock anyone, i just want to carry on. but loved ones tangled up in this still causes a crisis for me (and them, but they don’t know it yet, after 2013 when reality sets in and realizations that lives are ruined, then it will taste bitter.) we do not control much in this life, do we!

  • gullible says:

    I can only imagine the persistence, determination, patience and courage required to do what Agent Palmisano did in pursuing ron in having to go through the process of gathering evidence. Also, the increasing risk Agent Palmisano took with her life as she goes deeper and deeper into her investigations, given that ron has divine powers to do harm to her.

  • gullible says:

    ron is in the enviable position where if he was to tithe it will only be to himself. So, he puts the tithe in an envelope, hands from his righ hand to his left hand, then his left hand puts it back into his pocket. I would advise that those who received 2nd tithes and didn’t go to FOT should just keep the money as payback to ron – effectively taking back a tiny portion of what really belongs to them in the first place. It’s easy to do when you know that ron is a false prophet who has no power over anything and his words can’t be trusted.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Maybe we should repent, re-join, apply for Feast assistance, then leave 🙂

  • excogger says:

    The tithing system in the O.T. was a tax to fund the Public Service (Levites). Only farmers and folk who had any produce/stock paid the tithe. One tithe (10%) of that tithe went to the priesthood. There was no second or third tithe. Wages were never tithed. Only males were required to attend the Feast of Tabernacles, and they used some of their tithe to do so. The remainder was handed in to the Levites. All this ceased in 70AD with the destruction of the temple and the Levitical system. End of story.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Oh Excogger, you dear sweet, rational, intelligent soul…it is NEVER the end of tithing for these bastards…tithing is the cornerstone of Armstrongite theology, as it pays for all the stuff that “God” wants for his evangelists and apostles and “type of Elijah”-s.

    1. The world was ending back in the 60s and 70s and thus “God” needed a multi-million dollar performing arts center filled with marble and exotic crystal…

    2. The world didn’t end and thus “God” needed” a private jet to go pretend the Gospel was being preached to Anwar Sadat and King Hussein of Jordan (Armstrong paid for photo ops and then told the Church he had evangelized).

    and so on and so on…

  • excogger says:

    Yes, Avalo, you are quite right in what you say! In my experience, truth and honesty are the first casualties in any of man’s religions. Greed and control infect them all. BTW, the Old Testament Law, which Ronnie loves to misquote, prescribes paying back double for anything stolen from ordinary citizens. Seems he owes $2 for every $1 he has stolen from the flock by demanding tithes in order for them to be members of his version of the “One True Church”. Sick.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    The Truth HAS to be the first to go…it is the only way to inject various meanings into the Bible that work towards one’s own end. What is figurative becomes literal, what is literal becomes an allegory, and all allegories serve to raise the lie.

    “I am one of the Two Witnesses, and based on what GOD revealed to me about Scripture X, my role is “clearly” Y, so to oppose me is to oppose God and his plans for Z…”

    Laura in a Vic-Sec lace thong…

    *vomits uncontrollably, crumples into a heap on the floor, sh*ts his pants, passes out…*

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Avalo , Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah 😀 That says it all ! 😀

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Avalo, Laura ? that would be like having “Divine” whipping ya, while sing’n ” Walk Like a Man ” the ‘ol Frankie Valli number ” …………… would make anyone sick ! Hahahahaha 😀

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    More like Divine whipping your eyes while singing “Disciple” by Slayer…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72srSaFskVU

  • Velvet says:

    “The ‘lol’ is me nervously laughing at myself because I cannot believe I was gullible enough to fall for this poop. but i don’t want to mock anyone, i just want to carry on. but loved ones tangled up in this still causes a crisis for me (and them, but they don’t know it yet, after 2013 when reality sets in and realizations that lives are ruined, then it will taste bitter.)”

    Yikes. Sorry to hear that, Anon. Better late than never? Or better late than bitter, I would say…but I went through a period where I was an atheist, and a very bitter one at that, so I can’t recommend it. That actually wasn’t my doing, I eventually became agnostic after my family fell away, due to the changes; some years later, a group of very evil Baptists ended up “converting” me into a bitter atheist, as I’ve mentioned before.

    I don’t know if this will give you any comfort or not (probably not), but for what it’s worth, I think God used my choices at that time (yes, He even used my choice to turn completely away from Him), in order to prevent me from falling deeper into error, i.e., to protect me from getting sucked into professing christian paganism (which is where the Baptists wanted to lead us all—broad and wide is the path to destruction, etc. etc.).

    I take great comfort from the verse where Christ explains to His disciples that not all are called (or will be called) in this age, because God does not want to condemn anyone; and He knows that there are some who, if they were called, would willfully turn away, thus committing the unpardonable sin.

    Bottom line is, yes, we all have free will, and we all (in our human weaknesses) can make some bad choices in our lives. I would only say to you that, with God all things are possible….He can even use our bad choices in life, to strengthen us, and bring us closer to Him. That’s been my experience, anyway. Maybe the same will be true for your family? I pray it will be so….

    “Agent Palmisano also interviewed members and elders, including Terry Wrozek, Johnny Harrell, Ralph Dowd, and Steve Dalrymple.”

    The synchronicity of this is hilarious to me…if I am assessing the situation correctly, these people were all being interviewed a few months after I posted this. Any wonder said elders were screaming and hollering at me on the WW email to take that page down, they probably figured Palmisano was getting the names from me! (She wasn’t, actually, they were being given out in the sermons. Tsk tsk tsk, Weinland, very messy.)

  • Anon says:

    >>He knows that there are some who, if they were called, would willfully turn away, thus committing the unpardonable sin.

    Just like hellfire in the catholic church, this ‘unpardonable sin’ is so easily abused for Fear Induction that at this point in time it is a bit difficult to take it seriously. I would like to think it is not because I don’t fear God, but because I do fear being suckered in by one of so many men that take advantage of people. I would never try to overthrow God’s government on earth. I just, so far, have not seen anything that qualifies. So until then, we live right toward our fellows and countrymen and families with all respect and kindness that God would have us show toward others. That feels right, and I feel safe before our God having done my best to do these things.

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Has anyone ever met a Minister, or a real dinky-dy, you-beaut, fair-dinkum man or woman of God, who can provide you with a proven list, of how many souls he’s personally saved, who are now in Heaven ? If so, your’e a damn-side luckier than I’ve ever been ……… ( or you’re being lied to )

    These Ministers, will try to convince you, that you are a sinner, no matter what you’re doing, unless you’re giving them all you’re money , and becoming as loonie as they are…………..
    Always remember, so – called Ministers, before they were Ministers, ( and still do ) , part-take in some of the most depraved , self-indulgent , and abominable behaviour that there is ! ( why do you think they don’t want you to have a free will ? ) Why do they impose so many rules and unacheivable expectations on you ? The last thing they want, is for you to have a life ! And their All paranoid ! ( ever noticed ? ) possibly from a time in their life when they were consumed by substance abuse !

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Ministers so-called of God, will also encourage you to bring your families to their Church, this is because they lust after your adolescent and young adult daughters …….. thats why they say, ” due to the times we’re living in, and whats about to take place, the young should not marry and have children “, ( ever heard them say that ? ) ,( check-out Garner Ted and Herbie, stories on them ), so, they’ve got your money, and possibly your children’s money, and a personal harem , of young women , willing to do anything they say, for favour , convincing them they will get to heaven, if they satisfy their lust !
    And they do this in the name of God ! ………. and God’s Government , without authority, or justification.