The Day of the Third Witness

Previously I have blogged about False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s own splinter group, a man who fled to Javan (Greece) along with his wife and teenage daughter two years ago.  I had an update on him a few months ago, including a picture of him wearing a towel over his head in his hotel room in Greece.  The Third Witness, whose name also happens to be Michael, has posted dozens of videos on YouTube ranting on and on about his own versions of the end-time.  Witness Michael believes that he is one of the Two Witnesses and Ron was correct in prophesying that Christ would return on Pentecost of 2012.  Except that Ron is using the wrong calendar, and Pentecost is today, July 19.

Witness Michael took a plane ride to Israel.  On arrival in Jerusalem, the Israelis took one look at his garb, and loaded him on a flight back.  Witness Michael managed to interpret that as fulfilled prophecy based on the length of time (a few hours) he actually spent there.

The Greeks decided that they didn’t care for the potential of adding to the woes they already have with the economy, and put him on a plane back to Miami.  Which he has interpreted prophetically as well.

For some reason he has ended up in the Gallup, New Mexico area, where he has put out a number of YouTube videos recorded out in the woods.  And surprise, surprise.  It turns out that his 3 1/2 day death was not needed.

Probably tomorrow he will have another YouTube video explaining how prophecy was fulfilled today.

Update: Well, we already have a video put up this afternoon explaining that Pentecost runs from sunrise to sunrise (not between sunsets like Ron’s Satanic calender). Witness Michael goes on to blather about the “Michael to Come”.

If he does turn out to be God’s prophet then the only ones to see it will be the 3.33333% who repent and acknowledge him as Witness.  Though I don’t know how the tithe of the third is going to find out about Witness Michael with only a few dozen views of his videos, probably most of them by the idly curious.  His latest video if you’re really really bored (if not prepare to become so).

45 Comments

  • Matt says:

    If you put this man in a mental facility, an action which would be be justifiable at this stage, he would simply interpret it as a trial sent by God, or something the Devil is doing to tempt him, or find some reference in the Bible that he can interpret in a way that confirms his delusion.

    Funny how he stumbles over the obviously unfamiliar words he tries to use to make what he says seem more bible-esque. And weird to think that this man, just like all other people who claim to be prophets of one kind or another, *know about loads of other people who make the similar claims* and yet at no point start to wonder “Hey, if he can be wrong and still believe it with all his being, is it not possible that I am wrong?”

  • Rterlecki says:

    Nut!!!!!

  • Atrocious says:

    So this guy used to be Ron Weinland’s follower and he broke off and started his own “church”? Wow, Satan’s spawn, huh?

  • Anon says:

    Is he wearing a karate outfit?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    His penultimate video is called “If There Be Another Way..”, and his last video was “Jerusalem, Jerusalem There Is No Other Way”.

    I would LOVE to see him post a video after today, his prophesied Day of Christ’s Return, called “Well, Whadda Ya Know? There IS Another Way…”

    LMAO!!!! 🙂

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Hahahahaha 🙂 dont worry Avalo, these guys ( Prophets ) are like city busses, there’ll be another one along soon ! 🙂

  • J says:

    Does anyone follow this nut?

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Yeah J, the sheep do, he makes them nervous……. but they can relax, I think he’s gone back to work ! Phewww ! ( wiping forehead ) Hahahahaha 🙂

  • Frank says:

    I might be wrong but I seem to remember his first pick was June 19th?

  • Some people are of the mistaken notion that this nutjob and Ronald Weinland represent a distortion of Armstrongism, but that is a delusional idea.

    PKG and these “fringe” groups are merely a small part of a larger community of kooks and con jobs.

    They are all strange.

    What concerns me very much is that people are inclined to treat them with respect and ask polite questions as if they are merely mistaken about some point or other: The problem comes from being conditioned to accept entirely crazy ideas which can be scientifically disproved.

    This gives them power and credibility at a time when they should be shunned and treated with contempt.

  • Atrocious says:

    Ok, I caved…curiosity got the best of me and I listened to not quite half of it….

    These nuts love to focus on death and destruction. That in itself is a big red flag that should read, in big bold letters, STAY AWAY, I’M NUTS!!!

  • martin says:

    The nut with the blue tassels said “Plus, what I spoke was stoned and killed in your hearts anyway,”

    So “stoning” is not stoning. Being “killed” is not being killed.

    The majority of the true prophets and apostles and ministers of God got stoned literally. They were martyrs.

    Rev. 11 says the two Witnesses will be “killed”, the greek word is the same greek word used a later passage referring to the killing and martyrdom of Saints by the False Prophet + Beast.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    “Does anyone follow this nut?” He mentions a small flock. Probably consists of his wife and maybe a few somewhat curious.

    “I might be wrong but I seem to remember his first pick was June 19th?” I remember it as July 19, which is Pentecost on his calendar (not the Satanic one that Ron uses).

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Zerubabel Michael the Blue Tasseled Prophet mentions in this latest video that he was arrested when he returned to his home, probably referring to Gallup. I think that is why he is making his videos out in the country, as there is may be some kind of restraining order against him or something. Which is sad, as I would love to hear more reports from him about all the people who mock and jeer when he wanders into the local churches to try and proclaim whatever the heck he is trying to proclaim. These guys never say that they are false or mistaken. It is always “The Lord has revealed new X” or “I now understand that the Lord meant Y”. Zerubabel has been angrily decrying everyone who has said that he is wrong about Jesus’ return, AND YET he will once again be proven to be a false prophet.

    Funny how the holy people who decry the arrogance of Man are always the most arrogant men…

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I listened to the video and updated my post above to link to it. I think that the “home” he referred to in the video was Greece. Before he went to Greece, he lived in Montana. Makes you wonder why he went to New Mexico — but Michael-to-come probably has a prophetic reason he could dig up.

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    It was the 19th which our ‘ol buddy Jerubbable said Christ would return, but on the video of the 13th or 14th, he was say’in he had to die ( ” tomorrow afternoon ” ) to fulfill his Fathers will, and lay dead for three and a half days before being raised up on his feet ( where have we heard all that before ? ), when Christ returned on the 19th.

    Then on the video of the 16th, he said the most ridiculous thing, which was ” some of you wrote to me yesterday, to ask if I had died “. ( LMAO ) 🙂
    Which leads one to think, that he’s recording on the grounds of a State mental institution , somewhere ?
    The similarities to Ron’s statements, timeline and then failure are glaringly obvious, so one would expect that he’ll reappear sometime in the future, and ask folks to wait till next year ? now, as he uses fancy dress, to grab attention, I wonder if he’ll be dressed as Madonna , or GA-GA when he next appears ? 🙂

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Sorry, if my recollection of dates or times are foggy, but when I see these videos etc, we are already up to 16 hours through the day of which these ( prophets ) are talking about, so, when re-collecting I try to mention the date I see or hear something on.

  • martin says:

    What’s with the “commandment” not to remove one’s shoes? Just where is this in the bible?

    Just exactly how does one shower with his shoes still on? I would imagine they would get kinda soggy.

    It’s so ridiculous.

  • martin says:

    He’s expecting 233,333,310 million people to acknowledge him as a prophet?

    Good luck with that.

    At the rate he’s going, it will take a few hundred years.

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Thats right Martin, these ” Prophets ” dont seem to realise that nearly seven billion folks…….thats 7,000,000,000 just dont give a damn , let alone listen to their crappy lies !

  • YYZ says:

    “He’s expecting 233,333,310 million people to acknowledge him as a prophet?”

    Good luck with that while hanging around Gallup,..trust me on that!

  • Jocko says:

    False prophet Michael may decide to keep a low profile after his latest and greatest prophecy failure. That is of course unless he is shown new truth which of course would mean his prophecy didn’t fail after all. In one of his earlier videos he mentioned something about blowing out a tire in his car and nobody stopping to offer assistance because he was wearing white robes that day. According to Michael had he been wearing black people would have gone way out of their way to help get him back on the road. Looks like prejudice is alive and well on the road to and from Jerusalem.

    Sorry Michael but in my book you can’t hold a candle to Rotten Ronnie as far as false prophesying is concerned. I doubt Ronnie ever experienced a blown tire in his BMW. And if Ronnie did have a flat tire he wouldn’t have to worry about people stopping to help even if he was wearing white sackcloth that day. Ronnie’s a man of means so Triple A would be just a cell phone call away for him. Hard to believe nobody would stop to offer assistance to one of God’s prophets with a flat tire.

  • YYZ says:

    I listened to ALL 7 minutes, about 5 or 6 minutes more than I usually do and confirmed my first impressions….he’s a nutjob off the DEEP end! I feel a little sorry for the guy to have dug himself that deep into that mindset and lifestyle. Simpleminded. There’s bound to be a point where he has to realize that it was an illusion/delusion. Either that or live in denial and just continue the nonsense for the rest of his life.

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Well, one thing’s for sure, when the next one of these clowns comes along, they better have a bunch of kool party tricks ready to make it seem as if they just might be ” somebody “, even if its chroma-keyed or photoshopped afterwards……

    I really think if these cult followers are gonna be want to be fooled, they should at least get some visual evidence in
    return for their time and money ! ( suddenly the name David Copperfield srings to mind ? ) After all, with all the claims they make, of their “powers”, in reality, they cant even change a flat tyre !
    Sad, very sad 🙁

  • Frank says:

    Mike (DDTFA), this new Micheal-to-come could be you! A brand plucked out of the fire! Shave off all of your hair, cloth yourself in white linen, turn the water into blood (like he surely did), and fly to Israel. I’m sure everybody in here will follow you.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Since I tell people to think for themselves, to follow me means that you don’t follow anybody. Help!!!! I’m contradicting myself!!!! Ron has gotten to me!!

  • bags says:

    Don’t start asking for money, Mike. Ha Ha! Although, you probably do have some legit expenses connected to your blog and probably spend more time actually working at it than others.

    I wonder if this guy is out in the woods waiting to see his shadow? Someone tell him the ground hog already has that position covered and there will be nicer weather to come! If this guy is a product of following Ron you see what you are dealing with.

    I think I am going to start a business selling Magic Wands. There seems to be a strong market out there and a lot of demand for them. It could be a multi-tool, survival wand with built in lug nut breakers for emergency tire or mind changes anywhere in the world. And if all else fails, they can ram it in their rear ends and tell everyone they are some type of new trash talking human popsicles! What a treat to humor the mind!!
    Budgie, if this takes off you get 50% of the profits, but please remember to pay your taxes. Don’t jeopardize the success of the hottest selling item in decades.

    The Magical Multi-Tool Nut Change Ass Stand Wand.

    Ready for immediate use! No education, license or certifications needed! Soon to be a big hit! As seen on TV! Coming to a Walmart near you!

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Hahahaha Bags, thank you for your kind offer, I’m doing pretty well, but their must be childrens hospitals, kids cancer foundations, or homeless childrens organizations ( in the U.S. ) which could use funds like that , through need , more than me ? ( I myself was an child orphan ).

    Now, the blue tassel prophet Michael, I’ve now watched the latest ‘ The Hour Of His Coming ‘, video, where he talks about the harvesting of the first fruits……. looks like your still here mate ! so either you were’nt a good quality fruit, not sweet enough, or the Creator does’nt like the kind of fruit you are ? Maybe ya left your shoes on a bit too long, got a cramp from holding your staff ? or he just is’nt that keen on bananas ? 🙂 What ya should do is set up your camera, and tell everyone each day that Christ is not coming on that day………Ya can’t go wrong with that, no-one will argue with you, and ya won’t lose so much cred., you should jazz up your presentations with a few fireworks, and do some magic card tricks while delivering your rants ? would be so much less boring ? or, are you gonna shoot with a new date ? How about laying down a track underneath your voice, the theme from Star Wars ?……… just a few tips to help along……. 🙂 Lots ‘o luck !

  • Frank says:

    I would not be surprised if in one of his next videos this loon was going to talk of what happened in Burgas and Denver as some sort of sign from God.

  • Mark says:

    I think the main reason why his prophecies didn’t come true, just like Ron Weinland, was that they didn’t invest in a decent website. It all looks so 1996. God help the end-time prophets! Get some good web-designers for goodness sake!

  • martin says:

    Ronald is to damn cheap to hire a decent web designer. It means money would actually have to leave his pocket.

  • chacha says:

    No Martin…he sent his son to school on the PKG-scholarship-fund so he could keep it in the family!

    The Blue Tassel is an ass. I guess we could call him the Blue tASSel? What a nut.

    I’ll just take everyone’s word on what he says….I can’t listen to another idiot. I’ve developed an allergy.

  • Atrocious says:

    Me too, Chacha. I’ve had enough of these donkeys. They’ve always been around, and they’ll always be around. And they all die sooner or later just like everyone else does.

  • Jangster says:

    I am genuinely curious; what about his garb would cause the Isrealis to send him back? Is there something special about his clothing that they would recognize him as a nut?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    The Tel Aviv airport has the strictest security in the world. They would be world authorities on spotting a nut amongst the millions of religious tourists that come to visit the Holy Land. Many of the tour groups I’ve seen in Israel are dressed in their traditional religious clothes (nuns, Eastern Orthodox priests, etc). They would most likely have not had a problem with his wearing religious garb, but rather that he is clearly not wearing the correct religious garb for someone who claims he is a representative of the Hebrew God of Abraham.

    Zerubabel Michael claims he speaks for the Hebrew God, but rejects the Hebrew calendar, and has alternate explanations for Hebrew scripture which to even the average Jew would be heresy. Most likely scenario is that the tel Aviv customs people asked him about his garb, and he stated talking about his stupid theories, thus they instantly recognized a potential problem with his visit. Having been through Customs in Tel Aviv several times, they don’t just stamp you through. They scrutinize your papers, check your body, look through your carry-on luggage, and such. They are very polite about it, but they do take their security seriously, and no doubt took an instant suspicion/disliking to Zerubabel…

  • Don D says:

    Another nutter has joined the ranks of those who predict the date for the return of Jesus Christ. Mark Alexander who moved from India to Australia in 2009, claims that the Holy Spirit revealed to him that Jesus Christ would return on 24th July 2012.

    Mark reveals all in his web site called THE MYSTERY UNLOCKED. See the following web site at: http://www.themysteryunlocked.com/second-coming-of-jesus-christ/

    He says on page 109 of his online book “The Mystery Unlocked” that the date for Christ’s return is definitely 24 July 2012 (or 24-7-12) because, and I quote while trying to keep a straight face: “God is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 12 months of the year”! Profound truths wrapped up in ribbons of utter banality? The Holy Spirit reveals it claims our Mark, so you’d better believe it.

    His site is full of ravings about numerous passages of scripture, but it’s the good old BOOK OF DANIEL that’s his favourite, and the one which provides his genuine “proof-texts”.

    Good on yer, Mark. I wonder how he will explain on 25th July that he has been misled by the Holy Spirit? Will he do a Weinland and proclaim that the Holy Spirit has revealed a later date? What excuse will he give for the delay and failure of the first revealed date? Stand by for more exciting episodes from the land of THE MYSTERY UNLOCKED!

    Here we go again, folks!

  • How could it be otherwise: A proliferation of nutjobs in 2012, pumping up with excited hyperbole meltdown as opportunity continues to wane?

    Herbert Armstrong started this as the “zero patient” in the land of the kook disease.

    The bizarre wierdos you see are only symptoms of the original plague unleashed upon us.

    One thing to be greatful for: All those quite specific dates for the very near future, which will reduce their credibility among even those with room temperature IQs.

  • chacha says:

    In Ron’s LGD sermon, he said God was revealing to him in a dream in the middle of the night that Christ was not going to return on May 27th….so how do you like them apples? Oh….wait…never mind. Just messing with your mind to see if you really really truly trust god. No…ACTUALLY…it was SATAN that put that in his mind because he is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO incredible stirred up now knowing that his time is so short!

    So Satan puts things in Ron’s mind that he THINKS is god, but after thinking about it and watching everyone squirm in their seats, he realizes that it WAS satan after all…until christ actually does NOT return on May 27th…
    but….that is because god revealed that it was the day of the lord that is 357 days long (not sure how to reconcile the math on that one are you Ron) which is one god-day. Hmmmm. So what have we learned kids?

    Ron doesn’t know the difference between god and satan. (He wouldn’t know satan if he poked him in the ass with a pitch fork!)

    Neither do any of these other nut jobs with their imaginary friends whispering sweet nothings in their ears….

  • martin says:

    “Ron doesn’t know the difference between god and satan”

    This SHOULD make the PKGers worry, but sadly the fact that Ronald can’t determine the difference between God and Satan does not even enter their brains.

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Yeah Chacha , I hear you , you can easily tell what is on moRon’s mind week to week, just listen to the scrambled freako babble he puts up as a so-called sermon…….. with absolutely no word of hope, being saved, up-lifting commentry, never telles anyone they did good……..just comes to the same ‘ol ” not only the devils gonna git ya, but God’s a-gonna git ya too ! and then Im’ a-gonna git ya ” boring garbage……. ( he.s watched too many Yosemite Sam cartoons ) 🙂

    And then there’s the other Guy, ( Tassel-towel-head ), says he sent his fellow companion up a hill seven times, to set the same conditions for Christs return, that Isaiah did…….. Ha! if I we’re that bloke, I woulda said ” yea, sure thing buddy “, and went down to the local bar, for a few cold beers, and then come back and say ” nah sorry bud, did.nt see a thing……. not even Elvis showed up ! 🙂

    I mean really, but its the bizzar things they say, which I find entertaining, even funnier is my partner, as she imitates their quirky characteristics and idioms ! 🙂 Hahahaha hilarious, really I’ll miss the fools ( comic value ) when they go !

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Well, Michael Zerubabbel the Blue Tasseled Prophet put up a video explaining how he is still God’s Prophet, and that July 19th was significant, even though he falsely prophecsied that Jesus was returning. More of the old “God’s revelation is progressive”.

    Same old line as always. Armstrong, Weinland, Zerubabbel…never their fault, always God’s fault. “God” must be getting tired of being called a liar…

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    The End-Time Michael also read an email from a disaffected follower named “Eric” who threatened him. Eric followed Witness Michael to Greece but seems that Michael is also an Ayatollah.

    And he talked about the circumstances of his forced departure from Greece.

  • He that loses his mind for my sake shall not find it!

  • Mantayo says:

    Blatherskite

  • Velvet says:

    No comment on the my-wife-made-the-tassels-with-her-bedazzler’d fellow, but a reply to Douglas Becker:

    “Herbert Armstrong started this as the “zero patient” in the land of the kook disease.”

    I find this is a recurring sentiment amongst the bitter ex-members of the Church, and I think it reflects blind-sightedness (which I had myself not too long ago) that gives Herbert Armstrong FAR more credit than he ever needed or deserved (whether or not he wanted it is a debate for another time); to say that the Church’s human leader from the 1930s until the 1980s was “patient zero” for false prophecy that ignores the truth that this has been a problem in the Church since there WAS an established Church, not to mention the early Quakers, in their zeal for the truth, preached a soon-coming Kingdom of God in the seventeenth century….you are also discounting the influence of the Millerites and The Great Disappointment, and the SDAs that have continued on in the same tradition.

    Big picture, Douglas, think big picture. I know the Church meant and means a lot to all of us on these websites, but really, it was just another in the long line of dispensations from the first century that eventually departed from the truth, and as prophesied, the truth is (or will be) given to strangers. (Read the interview with World News Daily founder in the latest issue of The Journal; without any contact with the Church, solely from reading the Bible, the gentleman recounts basic doctrine as outlined in Incredible Human Potential.

    Think big picture, long-term; read the words in red in Matt 24. WCG was not the first physical organization to discover the truth and to lose it (I include the splinter groups in this); it certainly will not be the last.