The Horse Still Isn’t Talking

Last week I posted a copy of the pathetic motion Ron’s expensive defense team filed asking that the guilty verdicts be set aside.  The government has responded, with the US attorneys filing this response.

——————-  Government’s Response to Weinland’s motion to acquit ———

Comes now the United States of America, by and through counsel, and responds to the Defendant’s Motion to Set Aside the Verdict and Enter a Judgment of Acquittal. See R. 91: Defendant’s Motion to Set Aside the Verdict and Enter a Judgment of Acquittal. The Court should deny the Defendant’s motion because it ignores eight days of trial testimony and evidence, and because it falls far short of the standard for Fed. R. Crim. P. 29(c)(1) motions the U.S. Supreme Court set forth in Jackson v. Virginia, 443 U.S. 307 (1979).

When reviewing a Rule 29 motion, a court must consider “whether the record evidence could reasonably support a finding of guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.” Jackson, 443 U.S. at 319. This inquiry “does not require a court to ask itself whether it believes that the evidence at trial established guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.” Id. (emphasis in original) (citing Woodby v. INS, 385 U.S. 276, 282 (1966)). Instead, a court must determine “whether, after viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to the prosecution, any rational trier of fact could have found the essential elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt.” Id (emphasis in original); see also Johnson v. Louisiana, 406 U.S. 356, 362 (1972); United States v. Jones, 102 F.3d 804, 807 (6th Cir. 1996). On review, a court “may conclude a conviction is supported by sufficient evidence even though the circumstantial evidence does not remove ‘every reasonable hypothesis except that of guilt.’” Jones, 102 F.3d 807 (quoting United States v. Stone, 748 F.2d 361, 363 (6th Cir. 1994)).

The Defendant’s motion should be denied because the United States presented sufficient evidence to satisfy the Rule 29 standard set forth above for Counts 1 through 5 of the indictment, which charge the Defendant with attempting to evade or defeat a tax for the calendar years 2004 through 2008, all in violation of 26 U.S.C. § 7201. The Court instructed the jury that the elements for the offenses charged are:

(1) First, an income tax was due and owing from the Defendant in addition to that declared on his income tax return;

(2) Second, the Defendant made an affirmative attempt, in any manner, to evade or defeat this income tax; and

(3) Third, the Defendant acted willfully in attempting to evade and defeat the tax.

The evidence the United States presented, which must be viewed in the light most favorable to the government, Jackson, 443 U.S. at 319, is overwhelming, and includes, but is not limited to, the following.

With respect to the first element, that an income tax was due and owing from the Defendant in addition to that declared on his income tax return, the United States introduced the Defendant’s tax returns for the years 2004 through 2008 into evidence. The Defendant’s tax returns for 2004 through 2007 showed that he paid little or no tax for each year; the Defendant’s 2008 tax return showed that he paid insufficient tax. The United States also introduced analyses showing the Defendant’s unreported income for each of the years at issue. The United States offered the testimony of Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) Agent Kenton Pillow, who described the evaluation he performed which showed a tax due and owing for the years 2004 through 2008. The United States also introduced into evidence the Defendant’s 2008 tax return, completed by a Certified Public Accountant after the Defendant became aware that the IRS was investigating him, which showed the Defendant’s taxable income for personal expenses for which his church paid.

With respect to the second element, that the Defendant made an affirmative attempt, in any manner, to evade or defeat this income tax, the United States introduced evidence that the Defendant filed tax returns in which he falsely reported his income for the years 2004 through 2008. The United States also introduced evidence the Defendant’s failure to report on his tax returns both personal expenses paid for by the church and a foreign bank account. In addition, the United States proved that the Defendant failed to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts for the years 2004 through 2007, comingled church and personal bank accounts, and comingled church and personal expenses on his numerous credit cards. The United States introduced evidence that the Defendant created a corporate entity in which only he would have access to the entity’s financial statements, exploited the church’s 501(c) status by failing to file wage information with the IRS, placed church money in a personal Swiss bank account for personal use, funded the lavish lifestyles of his wife and children with church funds, and completed IRS Forms W-2 for himself and his daughter and Forms 1099 for church employees without consulting the church’s bookkeeper.

With respect to the third element, that the Defendant acted willfully in attempting to evade and defeat the tax, the United States offered both testimonial and documentary evidence that demonstrated the Defendant knew of his tax reporting obligations and acted to defeat them. This evidence included testimony from church members that the Defendant instructed them to pay their taxes and that the church issued quarterly receipts to members documenting their donations which were to be used to take deductions on their taxes. The United States demonstrated that the Defendant regularly completed and filed Forms W-2 and 1099, created a 501(c) organization, and took the parsonage allowance each year on his own taxes. The United States proved that the Defendant comingled money from church and personal accounts with church and personal expenses in an effort to conceal his true income. The United States further proved that the Defendant attempted to conceal his true income by misstating it on a BMW credit application. The United States also proved that the Defendant controlled the church’s operations, expenses, and expense reimbursement, and used church funds for the benefit of himself and his family.

For these reasons, the Court should deny the Defendant’s Motion to Set Aside the Verdict and Enter a Judgment of Acquittal.

Respectfully submitted,
KERRY B. HARVEY
UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
By: s/ Christopher L. Nasson
Assistant United States Attorney

—————— end of government’s response to acquittal motion ————————-

Here the government has cited overwhelming evidence of Weinland’s guilt.  One item that is conspicuously absent is any mention of Weinland’s religion or any indication that his church does not own buildings.  Many PKG members have bought the story that Weinland was convicted because PKG does not own any church buildings.  That’s not it at all.  Weinland was convicted for failing to pay taxes on the money he looted from tithes and substantial offerings for Godly purposes such as putting diamond rings on Laura’s fingers and BMW wheels beneath himself and his family members.  Since I’ve heard this argument from more than one PKG member, I have to think that this is something that Ron is selling.

The exchange of the motion by the defense to acquit and the government’s response is a type of the way Weinland deals with people.  Weinland expects people to believe him just because he said so, and his critics respond with specific evidence.

Note: since I have something else going on this weekend, my sermon summary posting may be delayed.  But this gives you something to chew on in the meantime 😉

45 Comments

  • The Justice Department and the United States Attorneys have done so much to make me proud to be an American: In spite of all the squabbles and disagreements of the American people, competence lives in (at least some segments) of the Government of the United States. It was no easy task in this case, with all the evidence the Attorneys and Agents had to sift through. Congratulations to them.

    And typical of the Suspicious Point of View, sure, make people who disagree with you prove absolutely everything they say against you and demand proof, hoping that everyone will accept less when you (Weinland) make wild silly statements.

    The very first act of a psychopath is to wreck the credibility of anyone who might be a threat to oppose or expose them. Weinland seems to have succeeded with his followers thus far (with a bit of exodus around the edges).

    The only way to deal with psychopaths is superior power, because they just don’t understand anything else.

    In this case, it takes the power of an entire Country to deal with Weinland.

    It seems to be working.

    Here’s hoping he will have absolutely no money left when this is all finished. Maybe he can live under a bridge and raid garbage cans after prison.

  • Atrocious says:

    Ah, I love it! Loveitloveitloveit. “You, you minions”, Weindland says, “must believe EVERYTHING I say, because I say it!” Hahaha…NOT!!! Listen up, Ron’s minions. The bible you claim to read has a scripture in it that says “Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.” Well, proof has been offered as to who Ronald Weinland is…proof for the past 5 years! Just because RW says he’s a prophet doesn’t make him one; just because he says he’s an apostle doesn’t make him one; and just because he claims to hear the voice of God doesn’t mean he does. Evidence proves otherwise….way otherwise! There has been PROOF that Ron Weinland is a liar, a thief, and everything else that is attached to darkness. You minions need to wise up and quit sending money to this convicted felon.

    September 24th is getting closer.

  • LindaP says:

    “funded the lavish lifestyles of his wife and children with church funds” ~ plain and simple truth, but only for people with eyes to see.

  • Visitor says:

    While I am looking forward to seeing Ron the Con being carried off to prison, I think you misunderstand his attorneys. An appeal to the judge asking him to overturn Ron’s conviction is a standard part of the process. It doesn’t mean that they believe he is innocent; they have to file this appeal or they open themselves up to being sued by Ron for failure to perform their duties. Also, if this appeal had not been filed, Ron could have hired different attorneys and used the lack of this filing as evidence that he had been poorly represented and was therefore entitled to a new trial. When the judge denies this appeal, thereby affirming Ron’s conviction, one possible door for appeal will have been shut and Ron’s destiny with the federal corrections system will be even more certain.

  • Matt says:

    Interesting – so we are pretty sure that the followers are told that Ron has been convicted because of some trivial tax-technicality, and not for failing to pay tax over about 1.5 million dollars of church funds that he pocketed over a 4 year period, in addition to the salary he drew over that period?

    That shows the conman-side of the Weinlands. They are deliberately lying to keep the flock from wondering if a real Apostle would have his nose in the trough the way Ron has. I am sure they rationalize their dishonesty in a religious way as well, but there is a core of self-interest that shows in their actions. Their behaviour does not seem consistent for people who are *just* religious maniacs. If they were, they would simply tell the truth and trust God to sort things out. There is a cynical, greedy, callous and calculating side to them, and you can see it come to the foreground whenever their meal-ticket is threatened.

    I am sure the followers have their own grapevine though. Surely pocket-stuffing on such a scale must arouse some comment? The information is readily available – surely some of them must know, and must be spreading the word? Is the cult THAT effective at policing their members that even something like this has only a limited impact?

  • LindaP says:

    From the friends I have in PKG – if there is a grapevine, they refuse to hear the truth of what happened. They will not discuss it, at least with an “outsider”. I’m hoping the internal grapevine is alive & well in the PKG and slowly information is disseminating to the sheeple.
    Let’s collectively pray for their eyes to be opened and those of us still within the COG family, let us be there to be a soft place for them to fall. No criticism, no judging, just be there accepting and thankful for them as our brothers and sisters in Christ.

  • Rterlecki says:

    Up coming trips
    Sept 24, 12
    Fedral prison
    No 5 five star this time asshole u will have to wipe your own ass no pkg members there to do that

  • chacha says:

    Mike…you got a LIFE??!

    Hope you enjoyed yourself!

    Thanks for your service to humanity!
    🙂
    Chacha

  • Rterlecki says:

    I agree chacha!!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I think this line from a Michael McDonald song is apt right about now:

    “What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away”

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    After all this evidence, I am now doubtful Ron ever believed any of his own bullcrap. It seems not only did he willfully evade taxes, he willfully stole from his followers to live ‘the lifestyle’ while those very followers sacrificed everything.

    How can Ron behave like this and even believe God exists?

    Linda – when in PKG, my experience was that no, we did not talk amongst ourselves. I am sure that the majority wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on. Chacha, is that what you found also?

    So many families ruined, because Ronnie, his wench, and spoiled little brats want to live the high life, at the purposeful expense of their deluded followers.

  • Scripture is very clear about false prophets: The big thing is that the Bible concern is that the false prophet will take people away from God.

    Whether or not you believe in Scripture, the Bible or God, one thing is sure: That Ronald Weinland has certainly taken PKG members away from the God of the Bible. Moreover, as time goes along, some of them will even become atheists as a result of the Ronald Weinland false prophecies. Just as Christianity and Harold Camping, such false prophets destroy faith — and not just in the false prophet: It destroys and devastates the believer entirely.

    Jesus said, “Beware of false prophets”. PKG members have embraced one of them instead.

    “Mark those who cause divisions” (not an exact quote) means that the PKG should immediately eject and disfellowship Weinland (if they have any hope of ‘entering into the Kingdom’).

    Or they can just become atheists and agnostics.

    Works both ways.

    Just so long as they give not one more penny to Ronald Weinland.

    As Jesus said at the last (especially appropriate after Pentecost 2012 and the felony conviction): “It is finished”.

  • martin says:

    It is rather sad. The PKGers KNOW Ronald has been wrong countless times (really every prophetic utterance out of his mouth has failed), and yet they believe Ronald will lead them into the Kingdom? On what basis? Because Ronald has SOME truths, they decide they should stick with him? Because Ronald claims to be one of the Two Witnesses? With no proof other than he said so?

    How sad, it seems they lack even an iota of common sense.

    When God sent Moses to the Egyptian leaders and to Israel, He gave Moses the power to perform miracles to establish his “credentials” so to speak, as well as God’s.
    God does not mind providing PROOF, and He expects you to prove all things (which includes God, the bible, and whatever prophet that claims to speak for Him)

    The truth will stand under scrutiny.

    Ronald Weinland stands for nothing.

  • seaside says:

    LindaP,Movin On and Chacha….thank you for your understanding..This helps the leavers and unbelievers soooo much!

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Througout the time I spent watching and reading on Ron’s outlandish and far-fetched fairy-tales ( ie; he and wife being witnesses , trumpets, thunders etc; ) I noted that he spoke and wrote disrespectfully of his Country , and its people, I’m sure everyone would not agree with all aspects of the laws of their respective Countries, but I always senced he had an almost bitter hatred , loathing for the U.S.

    Therefore, I am not surprised at all that he would purposely move to break and disrespect her laws, in such a pre-meditated and despicable manner……. the Government of the U.S. has now not only proved this , but has spelled it out, ( in no uncertain terms ) , there is / was no ” grey ” areas of doubt……. Ron’s own actions of deciept pretty-much convicted him.

    He has committed the crime of theft, not only against his Church, but against the U.S. Government and in turn the people, ( those ) whom strive to keep him and his family free and safe, within her borders.
    He has done this in the name of serving God……. ( he’s just as guilty as if he held-up Treasury directly, or robbed a bank security truck ).

  • he’s just as guilty as if he held-up Treasury directly, or robbed a bank security truck

    Yes, but just think how much more colorful it would all be if he did hold up the Treasury directly or robbed a bank security truck (and who knows if he might not in the future, if he gets really desperate?!).

    Well, I suppose everything that has happened is colorful enough.

    You must admit it all has a certain flair for the dramatic, wouldn’t you say?

  • Helen says:

    Kirrily, I have to agree with you 100 percent. Especially Ron actually believed what he is saying! I know some says he really
    believed all the CRAP he was dishing out, but like Kirrily, I believe he knew exactly his con scheme.. and of course so did his wench. They are both equally guilty. They just wanted to live high on the hog.
    Kirrily and Chacha, you came in about when I left. Were you gals ever told not to vote, discuss politics, and NOT to serve on jury duty? We were, so that shows you just what Ron thinks of the justice system. He is above it!
    To think of it maybe you weren’t told that. I am not sure of your justice system there regarding jury duty, etc. We have to here in the states serve jury duty unless we had a valid excuse, and rons letter got us out of it back then. But now they changed that law and it doesn’t fly anymore.

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Yeah ! here , here ! Douglas, although some of the girls on here, Helen, Kirrily and ChaCha, who knew Ron, said he was cowardly, so we cannot expect that sort of ” colourful ” behaviour from Ron in the future…….

    Howdy Helen ! yes down here If selected from ” Records “, or the ” Electoral role “, we must present for jury duty, without excuse or exeption, many of our laws and Government legal structure are based on your U.S. system.

  • Helen says:

    Howdy Budgie. May I call you Budgie? I didn’t know that your Government legal structure is based on U.S. system.
    So how is that working out for ya? haha
    Thanks for letting me know Budgie!!
    Hope all is well with you.

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Haha, yeah Helen, call me Budgie, or Pete ( real name ) if ya like………and yeah , the justice system here works ok for the most part, how it is interpreted by judges in different States sometimes leaves some folks puzzeled at times , we dont have Capital punishment anymore, which is a shame, ’cause that used to prevent folks gett’in murdered….. its so contoversial but thats just my opinion. 🙂

  • gullible says:

    “The Defendant’s tax returns for 2004 through 2007 showed that he paid little or no tax for each year; the Defendant’s 2008 tax return showed that he paid insufficient tax. ”

    So, ron encourages for the past many years, for his followers to pay taxes to make it look like he’s a law-abiding citizen when he’s really not. Also, ron must have figured that this will looks good for ron should he get convicted one day (and he did!!), as he can always point out that he taught everyone to pay their taxes.

    Kirrily XPKG says: “… when in PKG, my experience was that no, we did not talk amongst ourselves. I am sure that the majority wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on.”

    I’m sure many don’t have a clue of what’s going on as all questions (unrelated to sermons) are to be directed to the elders and not discussed amongst themselves. And as PKGers are all “obedient sheeps”, it is natural that they will just listen to the voice of their masters. It is in ron’s interest to keep his followers out of the loop (from the real truth). He might give some minor details, but only his own version of the story.

    If I was still in PKG and I desire to continue to be deluded, it would be in my interest not to have any clue and remain clueless. As the more clues I have, the more I would feel guilty and need to act on what I would then know to be true and eventually leave PKG. However, if I don’t have a clue, I’m still innocent and can continue to be deluded. Delusion can then be my drug!!

  • Atrocious says:

    We can only hope that curiosity will win over and they will get on their computers and Google Ron’s name and get this website. I know when I first started learning about HWA from “The Painful Truth” site, it was hard for me to believe, and if I mentioned it to anyone, they would always say, “You can’t believe everything you read!” Finally, finally, I got a clue and started getting some common sense. It was very hard at first, though.

  • jack says:

    No church buildings, eh? I’ve got some beautiful waterfront property I’d like to sell to a rich pig member.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Visitor said:

    “While I am looking forward to seeing Ron the Con being carried off to prison, I think you misunderstand his attorneys. An appeal to the judge asking him to overturn Ron’s conviction is a standard part of the process. It doesn’t mean that they believe he is innocent; they have to file this appeal or they open themselves up to being sued by Ron for failure to perform their duties. Also, if this appeal had not been filed, Ron could have hired different attorneys and used the lack of this filing as evidence that he had been poorly represented and was therefore entitled to a new trial. When the judge denies this appeal, thereby affirming Ron’s conviction, one possible door for appeal will have been shut and Ron’s destiny with the federal corrections system will be even more certain.”

    Since I’m not a lawyer, you’ll have to excuse my ignorance and enlighten me with your superior legal knowledge. For example, I was totally mislead by the title of the court filing (“DEFENDANT’S MOTION UNDER FED. R. CRIM. P. 29(c) TO SET ASIDE THE VERDICT AND ENTER A JUDGMENT OF ACQUITTAL”) and didn’t realize this was an appeal, not just a motion for acquittal.

    Perhaps with your superior legal knowledge, you could explain why Ron’s attorneys didn’t include any justification or evidence in what you now explain is an appeal, not just a motion to acquit. How much did Ron’s lawyers charge him to file this not-motion-to-acquit? And why was this not-motion filed in district court instead of The US Court of Appeals for the Sixth District?

  • Whisper says:

    So the “sheep” who want to be deluded avoid questions of false wRONg and stay in the the long haul of shackles and financial deterioration.
    But some have jumped ship! Some have been given the opportunity to swim away from this ship wreck and not go down with it.
    In any battle there are casualties, but the objective is to get some away from the danger, to save at least a few and this has been accomplished!
    How many more can be saved? When wRONg (hopefully) goes away for a long long time as a customer of Club-Fed then more of the shackled may very well wiggle loose of the bonds.
    They are trained to follow wRONg. They are trained to hear his voice and see the wisdom and glory of God.
    When wRONg is gone whom will they follow and whom will they hear?
    Who will come to Austrailia and Europe to see thier sheep? Who will be there for them? Laura? Johnny? Wayne? Audra?
    Can they tolerate following such? Can they tolerate hearing such? This is not as they have been trained for years upon years…
    More will shake loose. How much damage can this sham of a church sustain before it becomes to small and to pathetic to continue on?
    Go figure?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Jack said: “No church buildings, eh? I’ve got some beautiful waterfront property I’d like to sell to a rich pig member.”

    I think you meant “PKG member”. But then you’d have to find one who hasn’t given all to Ron.

  • gullible says:

    I haven’t seen any Google ads for a while now. If I was to base ron’s “witnessing” on the start and end date of ron’s Google ads (I’m really not sure what to base it on), it still wouldn’t come to 3 and 1/2 years. Anyways, I’m glad that he has declared his witnessing job has ended.

    Another thing which I can base it on, is that ron witnessed the awesome power he has in controlling other human beings given his superior understanding of human nature. He witnessed how easily some people can be fooled by his compelling ideas, and how the ignorant (those not fooled) would not repent and believe him. However, even this wouldn’t fit in the 3 and 1/2 years time range as we can’t really verify the start and end date.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    What a scumbag! Ron starts today’s sermon by telling the sheeple that May 27th was “amazing” and that it will be written about/added to the Bible (?) like all the other major events to inspire future generations. Let me get this straight: Ron’s prophetic failure will be ADDED to the Bible to demonstrate the PKG’s faith in God?

    Ron’s back to stroking the PKG’s egos…

    I would think that Ron’s story would be added to the Bible to demonstrate the stupidity of those who would follow a CONVICTED CRIMINAL/FALSE PROPHET…

  • Some people have expressed the opinion that Weinland is an atheist and does not believe in God.

    I suspect that this is not true, since Weinland thinks he is God.

    Too fine a distinction, maybe?

    It will be interesting to find out what he creates in prison.

  • Atrocious says:

    It will be interesting to find out what he creates in prison.

    I can just see it now. “Hey, you convicts”, Ron says to his fellow prison inmates. “I have NEW TRUTH! I AM your new apostle, and the Bible says you must tithe 10% of whatever you get, to me!”
    I wonder how long that would last?! LOL They would give him 10% all right, more like 100% of what Bubba has!

    After all that fine dining RW has been indulging in, I wonder how he’ll like prison food. Maybe he’ll find a dead mouse or a few cockroaches cooked right along with his delicacies.

    I wonder if he has seen “Shawshank Redemption” and will hide away a little rock hammer in his Bible.

    I hope he likes the color orange – and black ‘n’ blue, and maybe red. And some purple.

  • If it were to spread among the inmates that he was responsible for harming children in the PKG, he would be colored dead in short order.

    Arrogance isn’t as high on the hit list, but it’s up there and anyone stupid enough to exhibit it is not going to last long.

    Perhaps, though, we should be satisified if he merely becomes penniless and all the PKG leave him. Except for his dependents who can continue be an expense.

    With all those diamonds (a dog is man’s best friend, but a diamond is a girl’s best friend — what’s wrong with this picture?), Laura can do just fine — sell them off, move to a country where expenses are low (and there’s no extradition) and someone like her can (continue to) live like a queen and even have enough left over for her children.

    Win-win.

  • And Jeremy really needs to rethink living in Germany.

    It is my understanding that Germany is not particularly cult friendly.

  • As a courtesy, and since I quoted a couple of people here, I wanted to share my newest entry on the Painful Truth blog, PTSD, with special thanks to Mantayo and Juror #215.

  • Atrocious says:

    That was/is a very good article, Douglas. I can relate to it all because I have been diagnosed with PTSD. It was mostly due to extreme child abuse (my therapist said it was akin to me being in a concentration camp) and because of the training I endured of “obey without question and you will not die”, I fell into the trap of a cult and subsequently an abusive marriage. I now live a normal life (what does “normal” mean?) with my kitten, surrounding myself by “nice” people (not abusive ones) and the triggers are few and far between now. My health has been compromised because of the lifelong stress (disabled with arthritis is one) but, in comparison, I now live in a sort of paradise.

    That’s part of the reason why I am so very much against people like Ron Weinland and his family, and the leadership of any cult. They are abusers. And yes, children are very much affected. My children are both in their mid thirties and they still have issues they are dealing with having been raised in a cult.

  • jack says:

    Sorry Mike,
    I went in to civilization and bought a superphone. Just learning how to use the keyboard. It is such a wonderful toy I probably won’t even need my laptop anymore. I meant PKG member. I would never call someone a pig unless they were. And there is a lot of deeded property nearby underneath a swamp.

    I am not surprised the PKG members have swallowed the “no church building” excuse for the IRS investigation. But do they know he was convicted?

  • martin says:

    ElohimJD said “Read the claim of fraud, it is bogus and will not stand up in the court. It is steaming from the fact he has church tax status but doesn’t own a “building” called by the word “church”. ”

    ElohimJD at ATS promoted this lame excuse.
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread336338/pg50

  • Camaris says:

    Well, I came to the party late in April of this year, having got an iPad and downloaded the Kindle app and stumbling across a free book to download by one Ronald Weinland. I had a read of his epic masterpiece and soon found this site, and ever since have been hooked into proceedings, waiting with baited breath on May 27th ( what a let down!) and keeping up with the thrilling trial. It’s all good. The one thing that’s not so good is Ronald’s weekly sermons. This last one was particularly underwhelming and I hope the game gets raised next week as I think Ronald needs to move from his tied and tested format. I have a theory that he has a big hat in which he puts key phrases, then just sits down every Friday and pulls them out the hat at random, then depending on the order they come out his hat just freestyling out his sermon. I’ve listened to quite a few of his sermons now when on the running machine for motivational purposes, but I’m starting to wish he’d mix it up a bit! It’s usually a combination, in no particular order with no particular link between the below phrases:

    There was an apostasy!
    Truly!
    We are so blessed!
    That which has to do with….
    Moulding and fashioning…
    Working with his people….
    …and I can’t understand that!
    The apostasy!
    (something) through time
    Awesome!
    Awesome to understand that!
    Period of time that we’re in
    Gods church
    We move forward
    SO blessed…..
    Time three times four times half of one time and a further time of times

    What are you favourite weinland-isms?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    My favorites?

    1. The time he mused aloud as to why anyone would trust Jewish translations of Biblical Hebrew!

    2. Made everything between May 27th 2012 and May 27th 2013 the “Day of the Lord” while his website STILL shows the “Day” of the Lord as an actual 24 hour day!!

  • Jocko says:

    “What are your favorite Weinland-isms?”

    Do Not Pass Go-Go Directly To Jail.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    And here it is: From Ronald Weinland’s OWN website. he has called the remaining year before Christ’s return the Day of the Lord…YET his website says that the 47th Truth revealed to him by GOD is:

    47. The day Christ returns is the same 24 hour day when all seven vials (Seven Last Plagues) are poured out, once this Seventh Trumpet is blown. It is on this day that the battle of Armageddon both begins and ends. There has always been speculation concerning this prophetic DAY OF THE LORD. Many believe that this prophecy cannot be accomplished in a single day, and many believe that this is a period of time that will last for at least 30 days.

  • martin says:

    Every time a prophecy fails, Ronald considers it a blessing.

    It’s laughably tragic.

    The bible pronounces death penalties upon false prophets, but Ronald actually thinks that failed prophecies are a blessings.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Jack asked:”But do they know he was convicted?”

    The ones who got the email I copied a few weeks ago would know that he’s been convicted.

    I also have a “smart”phone but am disinclined to do much typing on it.

  • J says:

    Hey Avalo, don’t steal my thunder 😀 I’ve been pointing out the Truth #47 inconsistency since the 26th. 😉

    I’m trying to be helpful, reminding Ron that he needs to update his website. What a shame – he has not taken my advice.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Sorry, J. I will be clearer next time that it was you who alerted me to this…I will “borrow” your thunder from now on! 🙂

  • Jocko says:

    ElohimJD also had this to say for himself back on May 16th, 2012.

    “You don’t have to issue challenges Sir, you simply have to wait 2 weeks and
    in the moment it all begins, remember that God’s greatest attribute is
    mercy, and to those that have not known Him, there is a perfect plan for all
    mankind in God’s time. Hopefully our interaction will help bring you to
    where you need to be (spiritually not physically) to receive the truth in a
    way never before witness by mankind. God Bless,”