A New World

False Prophet Ronald Weinland has posted his final sermon to be played back by the PKG faithful early this sabbath before Christ returns. (Thanks to Dillweed for the tip).  I’ve listened to samples of it.  He spent a good part of it reading his last blog post, and at the end reads an “in-case-of” message to his children.

I have other responsibilities to deal with and was not able to listen to the sermon until later.  Below is my response after finally being able to do so .

Weinland’s sermon did not mention much scripture.  It was mainly a heart-to-heart talk, as he reminisced about the past.  There were allusions to nagging doubts followed by statements of faith that looked forward to being converted to spirit being.  At least for the Two Witnesses, a bit of uncertainty whether others will make it into the 144,000.   So the initial reaction of former WCG members on Saturday will be to think that they hadn’t quite made the cut and weren’t sealed after all.

Ron also spent a half-hour or so reading from his last blog posting, posted on Wednesday.  Which includes the following statement:

“At this point, our job is done. Our work has come to an end as God’s witnesses.”

So Ron and Laura are clocking out a few days early, from their prophesied term of duty of 1260 days.  Slackers!!!  Another point from Ron’s last posting is of personal interest to me:

Then 7,000 “named” (literally named by God and not random) individuals die, which includes first and foremost the ministry and other leading and well known people in the scattered groups. It also includes those who push themselves forward as “teachers” or individuals who are in the “know” about matters in God’s Church, especially in their attacks against God’s witnesses.

Ron’s previous death curses were not specific to me, but applied to anyone who would mock him.  This seems a little more specific, as I’m not aware of anyone else who has blogged about internal workings of PKG other than “WeinlandWatch” who did some of that during the first part of 2008. Otherwise, who else posted last names for some of the elders he listed only by first name?  Who else informed the world about the luxury Las Vegas hotels where he held elders conferences?  Or about the new corporation Ron had his flunkies set up?  Or how Ron continues to pay the property taxes on his mansion on a golf course?  I guess that “nukular” weapons will not strike my city tomorrow so that I can survive World War 3 and die at the moment of Christ’s return.

Near the end of the sermon (around 1:42), Ron reads a “just-in-case” letter he said he’d written for his children about 10 years ago, bidding his children farewell should he and Laura have been killed during their travels.  After reading this, he explained the purpose for reading this was as an example of the love parents have for their children, and how much more love God has for us, yada yada.  I discussed this part with an ex-member, who thinks it might be like a suicide note.

I myself am not too sure.  Suicide is against Ron’s religious thinking.  But who knows what his reaction will be tomorrow when he and Laura do not become members of Elohim.  He will have spent the church’s resources (really that of his members) on a final Google advertising push that increased traffic levels to the-end.com above that during 2008.  He will be facing a criminal trial.  One in which his prospects don’t look good even with his talented legal team at the law firm of Frost Brown Todd in Louisville burning the midnight oil.  One thing that I wonder about is the timing of the posting of his sermon, which I didn’t expect to happen until at least 24 hours after the mid-day Thursday release.

Saturday afternoon, Ron will be facing a royal nightmare.  It will be interesting to see how he handles this Red Sea moment.

265 Comments

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ho’s this for setting up this weekend’s back peddling. Ro says at:

    1. 0:17 – this is the final sermon after 6000 years of man’s history

    2. 2:44 -we’e at the end of 6000 years of human history.

    3. 2:54 – we are hours away from Christ returning in the ATMOSPHERE of this Earth.

    AND THEN?

    5;20 – “GOD’S TRUTH IS PROGRESSIVE…”

    LMAO!!!

    IF “GOD’S TRUTH” IS PROGRESSIVE THEN THE “TRUTH” THAT CAME BEFORE IT IS NOT TRUE. YOU CAN’T MURDER SOMEONE THEN PROGRESSIVELY BE LESS AND LESS GUILTY UNTIL YOU ARE FINALLY INNOCENT!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    So this is now the “last post” on Ron’s website supposedly, and he says at the end of the sermon how it a an honor “to have been” the PKG’s pastor.

    GUARANTEED he is not telling the truth! He’ll be right back at it as soon as he figures out some new lies…I mean “new truths from God”, becuase at the end of the sermon he goess on about how God dwells in us, like this is going to be how he explains away Jesus’ NON-RETURN this Saturday.

    I’ll put $50 imaginary dollars down on the Friday a week from tomorrow as the day he breaks his silence and posts something on the site or uploads a message about why Jesus didn’t return “in the atmosphere of the earth” like he said!! LOL!

  • Jocko says:

    Very fitting for a final sermon.
    Ron sits in his mansion on the golf course talking to himself.
    Incredibly awesome

  • chacha says:

    Nice! I hadn’t thought of it like that! That is PERFECT!!

    LMAO!

  • YYZ says:

    I wish I may, I wish I might
    Have this wish I wish tonight
    I want that star, I want it now
    I want it all and I don’t care how

    Here’s a song for you Mr. Weinland:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gSb2A4mXtg

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    So let’s review Ron’s “truths”:

    1. No US president in 2009. FAIL

    2. Jesus returns Sept. 2011. FAIL.

    3. Ron’s mockers die quickly from the inside. FAIL.

    4. If the contents of 2008 -GFW aren;t true he will admit he is a false prophet and quit his ministry. FAIL.

    5. The Asian Hordes will invade before/early 2012. FAIL.

    6. The European Beast Power will rise in early 2012. FAIL.

    7. If Europe/Asia 2012 doesn’t happen, Rob will admit he was wrong. FAIL.

    8. The Witnesses WILL die in Jerusalem, physically. FAIL.

    9. WWIII will occur no later than three days before May 27th, 2012. FAIL.

    10. MILLIONS will come to be baptised into the Cog-PKG BEFORE may 27th, 2012. FAIL.

    11. The proof of Ron’s prophetic power will be events happening EXACTLY as he wrote them in his book 2008-GFW. FAIL.

    Shall I continue, Ronnie?

    MESSAGE TO RONALD WEINLAND: You are a liar, a cheat, a fraud, and a LOSER. I openly mock you and defy your spiritual authority, since you have NO authority. I mock you now and I will be continuing to mock you throughout this coming weekend as your LIES are made even clearer by the NON-RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST. You have lied and now you will be proven YET AGAIN to be a liar and a fool.

    I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE ON THIS SITE TO MOCK YOU AND LAUGH AT YOUR PUBLIC FAILURE AS A MINISTER AND AS A MAN. YOU ARE A WEAKLING AND A COWARD, AND I OPENLY LAUGH AT YOUR VERY PUBLIC CRIMINAL TRIAL. GO LUCK TRYING TO LIE TO THE JUDGE, YOU TINY LITTLE WORM…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    You had it all Ronnie (just like the King of Spain), now you are about to eat humble pie. Here’s your theme song Ronnie!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylaLG-DdT7E&feature=related

  • J says:

    Starting out, he’s saying plenty of “we believe” “our faith”, not “it will” and “fact”. He’s prepping for an out.

    He “believes” it will be his last sermon. Uh huh. Not “This. Is. My. Last. Sermon. Period.”, nope.

  • YYZ says:

    There are those who think that life is nothing left to chance,
    A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance.

  • J says:

    I’m a half-hour into the sermon, and there has not been a single scripture. It’s as if the things he is saying are not from God…..

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Yeah, YYZ!!!!! A RUSH reference!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnxkfLe4G74

  • Vision says:

    J, Ron or “Rob” makes it up as he goes along…Didn’t you know? 🙂

  • Jack Hertzog says:

    Ron Is a psycho-path, and truth to him is what he says truth is, and he makes it up as he goes. See if this doesn’t happen, when Christ doesn’t come, Ron will probably say ” He came exactly when I said He would, but He came to me privately and told me that He was coming to tell me that He is delaying coming to the world as a whole, but He wants me to continue warning the world”

    Ron will come up with some other time frame, like 3-1/2 years or something, and many of his dupes will fall for it like leemings going over a cliff.

    I hope I don’t give Ron any ideas (-:, I wonder if he can talk his way out of a prison cell.

  • YYZ says:

    Avalo,..you remember me as Red (I left a short comment once showing my name change and the reason why)…you already gave me a “get out of jail free card” for a previous RUSH post….and I thought you’d see through it with my newer name. (I sure wished they’d stop at my nearby city for this tour)

    Anybody have any video of the trumpets happening yet?..anyone?…Bueller?…Bueller?

  • Jack Hertzog says:

    Ron will come up with some other time frame, like 3-1/2 years or something, and many of his dupes will fall for it like leemings going over a cliff.

    I hope I don’t give Ron any ideas (-:, I wonder if he can talk his way out of a prison cell.

  • Jocko says:

    “As if the things he’s saying are not from God”.

    They’re not, never were, and never will be.

    It’s always been about Ronald Weinland and always will be right up to the day he goes swimming in the lake of fire wearing his sackcloth bathing suit .

  • daughter of a follower says:

    Well the follower close to me isn’t talking about it and that’s ok. I can’t help wondering though why Ron’s followers have not been kept up to date with the court case and especially why they haven’t been asked to pray for the “spiritual” attack on him and/or the church. It appears he truly believes he won’t be there after this weekend – or is hoping like crazy he won’t be!

  • YYZ says:

    I doubt he’ll get prison time. You know the saying: “Money talks and bullsh*t walks”,..I believe he has plenty of money!

  • martin says:

    Here is the crucial point

    When the thought that Christ would not return May 27, 2012

    Ronald could NOT determine if that was of God or of Satan.

    If Ronald can not tell the difference between God and Satan, then he and his followers are in a whole lot of trouble.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    YYZ: WOW! A RUSH reference AND a Spinal Tap reference in the same thread! Killer!

    RUSH will be at the Air Canada Center in T.O on Oct. 14th, as they have will have a new album to tour by then (Clockwork Angels). And the fan Club has sent out a memo saying there might be a second T.O. show added to the tour. Get your ticket and I’ll see you down there, brother!!!

    …oh, and Ronald Weinland is a fraud who will be exposed yet again this weekend after yet another one of his stupid religious fantasies is thwarted by Reality.

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Out of curiosity ( not belief ), I became interested in Ron’ s outlandish claims on radio interviews ( of past times ), where he explained to the presenter, that he hears God talking to him in his mind ?, now this is not peculiar to Ron, does’nt it happen to everyone ? and its called concience ? or ones better judgement ?

    Why does Ron think this is only been given to him ? its part of normal brain activity…….someone says, ” Oh I gotta bad feeling about this ” ? they are simply expressing what their better judgement is telling them.

    So Martin, If Ron truley believes in a God, the ” self talk “, would be reflected in his actions, however, his actions, spitefulness, and disregard , rash statements and behaviour, would suggest that his heart is not really in it ? and could be Demonic ? don’t ya think ?, and therefore his followers are in big trouble, I think they will realise this, and minimise the possibility of risk in the future .
    If not, they ignore , and overlook such behaviour, at their peril…….and yes , sadly, for some may be too late ?

  • Jason says:

    Budgie, good insight. Ron has created his church, his “new truths,” and this ridiculous ever-changing timeline of events out of pure spite. Why else call a curse on his “fellow” former WCG sabbatarians? Just listen to his sermons. He is a spiteful, vindictive man. A prideful and arrogant SOB who has duped people out of their life savings and their lives for a dream. On Sunday, Ron begins a new chapter in his deception. He will never admit anything. He will only step aside when men and women of integrity push him out of leadership… Stand up and say “Enough is Enough!”
    HE wants the glory. HE wants the accolades. HE wants to be thought of as the one who is God’s chosen. Of course, in his “last” sermon he talked about how people will be writing about this time. That’s right, people will be writing about it…as a footnote to just one more false prophet who deceived a small group of people worldwide.

    Remember, Ron Weinland jumped the shark 3 years ago after his first timeline FAILED. He managed to salvage some of his flock to continue to fleece them and now is facing federal tax evasion charges as a result of his superiority complex and defiant nature. In my opinion, he should go to jail for the maximum penalty of 5 years. That will give his followers five years to move on. “Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.” That’s talking to you Ron Weinland.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Great post Jason! That’s why in many ways I think Wayne and Johnny have more to answer for than Ron and his equally deluded wench.

    After all, they Senior leadership, and like all in PKG – their PRIDE will not allow them to admit their error in believing Ron, thereby admitting God was never with them.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I love it. It’s GAME TIME now, and it is RONALD WEINLAND VS. THE MOCKERS. Game Time is set for May 27th. It’s do or die for Ron. And we mockers are going to WIN. Jesus isn’t returning this weekend Ron. Ha Ha! You lose!!

    Mock mock mock mock mock mock mock. Ronnie Weinland is a loser! Mock mock mock mock…

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Although I have never met RW, it seems likley to me , the way he presents himself as a speaker, he always sounds somewhat tense, and defensive in his delivery.
    This is not a persuasive or influential objective, which speakers normally hope to achieve……. I’ve always learned and strived, whilst speaking, that the objective is to get your audience to feel good about you and what you have to say, from the outset ?

    The dreadful mistake, most of these self appointed preachers make is to take the defensive, and closed view, of the subject of which they are speaking, leading the audience to start wondering, why is this guy so desperatley trying to ” sell ” me this ? What is he hiding ? , and of course, when they start yelling at their audince to make the point ? it just confirms in one’s mind , that yes this guy is desperate, and does’nt want me to raise ( in mind ), any other possibility, or outcome .

    If politicians started yelling, and showing disdain for their constituents, on the nightly news, or when there is a pressure situation, it would tend to make folks think that they are not right to lead, or serve in office ? So I’m astounded that preachers think this behaviour is productive of anything ? especially as their lively-hood depends so, on their personallity ?

  • jack635 says:

    I’ve checked the charge level on my battery bank, and I have a three day supply of food and water. I think I will get through this. I’m closing the hatch now. Good luck.

  • Helen says:

    Trust me Budgie, be glad you never met him!!
    By the way, exactly when are laura and Ron going to die? Or is it still spiritual? My tv is on and nothing special going on yet..

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Hahahaha, Helen, I don’t think Ron would like me very much, If he met me, and I have no interest in such anyway, ( got better things to do ).

    As far as the witneses, I think they ( thru Ron ) said their deaths were not going to happen, physically, anyway ? sounded like he was telling God, he was not ready yet, and was having far too much fun under “mans evil rule on earth” , to bother himself with dying just now ?

    As for the news, I guess as long as you don’t have a foreign tank or two outside your house, or a string of bombed or burning cars around with people screaming and houses on fire, I guess you can relax …………………..Hahahaha, now Helen, don’t you go loos’in that sense of humor you have…….LoL

  • Don D says:

    Mike,

    I really think you ought to contact a few big TV channels and alert them to what Ron claims will be happening in the next couple of days. Ron has always wanted extensive TV coverage in these “latter days” – indeed he predicted it.

    So why not do Ron a favour & make just one of his predictions come true? Give those TV channels Ron’s address, and then they can do some doorstop/doorstep interviews while WW3 rages around them. Should make for dramatic television!

  • lifefeedsonlife says:

    Ron W. baptized me back in ’92. At the time, he made sense to me. Now – not so much. Of course – come Sunday, I’ll either be one of the 7,000 Named Dead he mentions in his last post on his personal site, or I’ll be one of the 63,000 who’ll wake up and come back . . . or nothing of the sort will happen. And so it goes.

  • martin says:

    I’m pretty sure Ronald Weinland will be doing jail time sometimes soon.

    Here’s a question though, does anybody think Ronald Weinland would be allowed to make audio sermons in jail?

    All he would need is an iPod or iPhone, to record his messages, the trick is finding a quiet space, away from bubba, his future dance partner.

  • Helen says:

    Budgie, no tanks, burning cars or people screaming, not as yet anyway!! lol I am sure the only things that are going to burn around here are all the bbq pits to put those steaks on. I get so confused on Ron. First time (when I was in PKG) we were suppose to see him and his other witness, the Mrs. die on TV in 2008. Now he had to make another plan and talk to God and I guess it will be spiritual hey? Amazing how the Pkg can understand or keep up with all the changes.

  • Vision says:

    Helen, I’m glad you see through this false prophet and that the CONfusion is gone from your mind.

    Everyone have a happy 26th and 27th wherever you are in the world. Heck, have a happy rest of the year! 🙂

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ronald Weinland did a dance
    Ronald Weinland pooped his pants
    All his sermons were all lies
    crazier than cat poop pies
    He has failed as a preacher
    more a liar than a teacher
    Ronald Weinland cursed us all
    thinking he was Apostle Paul
    Having wisdom, having grace
    But Jesus’ words he did erase
    Changing Scripture, twisting words
    Turning wisdom into turds
    So let’s all mock this coward now
    And don;t forget his wife (that cow!!)…

  • Douglas says:

    RW: “Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat”
    PKG: “Again?”
    RW: “Nothin up my sleeve – Presto!”

  • Douglas says:

    I was listening to RWs – hopefully – final message in order to hear the “in-case-of” part that Mike (DDTFA) pointed out. To be honest I’ve never listened to a whole RW sermon, and did not this time either, so I could not find it because i had to turn his stupid mouth off. I could not take it! Waahhh! I admit it I was weak and could not take his hideous torture! As I listened I thought that I would really rather shove my arm down a garbage disposal than to listen even for another 5 seconds. Please someone help me get his nauseous drool out of my head! They’re coming to take me away ha ha!, they’re coming to take me away ho ho!

  • Matt says:

    I have a complaint. Back in 2009 I wrote this:

    “I think you and the rest of the guys on your Weinland-watching site
    have it completely wrong. We are obviously witnessing a revolution in
    religious matters. Far from reviling Weinland, we should applaud this
    new standard in religion that he is trying to set.

    Think about it – unlike all the other paradise-peddlers, this guy
    actually offer value for money! Let’s review what he has on offer:

    1: Not just entry to paradise, but a VIP seat as one of the 144000!
    (or thereabouts). This is a LOT better than the lousy standing-room
    ticket the catholic church has on offer. Then again the catholic
    church takes a few bob every sunday, max… but hey, I guess even in
    heaven, you get what you pay for!

    2: No need to blow yourself up to get in paradise – God will do it for
    you! Much better than Islam, which also tends to charge a bit more in
    the way of donations. This kind of do-it-yourself, requires assembly,
    flatpack approach that mainstream religions tend to take is just a
    ruse – if this religion fails, you didnt put it together right! Also,
    I smell a rat where the 27 virgins are concerned. There is probably a
    REASON they died virgins. If it said 27 experienced fluzies, i’d be
    strapping on the TNT as we speak.

    3: No endless waiting about. The rapture while you wait, and even if
    you have to sit out a mere 3 years, there is a floorshow! Even by the
    most generous timeline imaginable, we should have the total collapse
    of the USA within the next 3 months according to his predictions. This
    is far, far better than Judaism – they have not even managed a Messiah
    in over 4000 years. Clearly their heart just isn’t in it. Not so with
    the Ronnie show – we want action and we want it now!

    4: Verifiable claims. No endless blathering about invisible souls and
    how it all happens after you are dead – bold statements about what is
    going to happen in the real, visible world, in a timeline that is so
    short we can easily check if it is true. Not a single other religion
    has this feature. It is truly revolutionary.

    5: Real Miracles. Forget virgin births. Keep your weeping statues.
    Angles schmangels. Ronald Weinland has promised us the miracle of
    miracles: the EU making a decision and taking action within 2 years.
    Anyone who follows EU politics know that it takes that long for EU
    politicians to decide which hand to scratch their balls with. Yet
    Ronald promises us a United States of Europe within the next 2 years!
    Halluluia! We live in a time of miracles indeed.

    Personally, I think we should demand this level of service from all
    our religions. Well worth the 10% tithe – after taxes! God gives tax
    breaks under Weinland. Truly he must be our saviour.

    What makes me wonder is this – why does Weinland makes you so angry,
    especially? He really gives a far better and more honest deal than any
    other religion. A bit steep, but hey – I guess even in religious
    matters money talks. Sure, it is a lot of claptrap and all about the
    personal aggrandisement and enrichment of the current leader(s) of the
    hierarchy – but hey, show me one religion where this is not clearly
    the case, and I will show you a fool if you bring your own mirror.”

    Now I am severely disappointed. We did not get a single thing of all the promised events. Where are the jack-booted Germans goose-stepping their way across Europe? Where are the fire-breathing witnesses? Where are the Asian hordes invading the USA? Where are our *nukular splosions*?

    So far the floor-show has been absolutely crap, and the main event has been postponed. This is the worst cruise I have ever been on, and if I had actually paid tithes, the most expensive one too. I bet the VIP seats in the Kingdom of God are going to be crap too, and that the rooms of the Lords faithful will all have brick walls for a view. Is there a consumer agency for crackpot religions? Because they need to be notified.

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Hahahaha @ Douglas…………thats so funny, I was just think’in about levelling something from Rocky, and Bullwinkle yesterday, at the weinlands hahahaha
    Ava, thats really good, also been think’in about some rhymie quip, about tax evasion, and the two witnesses like Humpty Dumpty , sat on a wall, but I’m not that clever with rhyming.
    Helen, yesterday you said the PKG’ers should be known as ” Rontains ” hahahahahaha, thats a scream ! LoL, my thought was ” Wein-o’s ” LoL

  • Douglas says:

    Oh but I did hear him murmur something about how he believed that by tomorrow he would be in Jerusalem but not by the standard travel way or something like that. But I’m thinking a better prophecy is that he will be in a federal prison. Just FYI. 🙂

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ronmpty Weinmpty sat on a wall
    Ronmpty Weinmpty had enough gaul
    to lie to his sheeple
    and the government people
    since his brain is so pitifully small

    Ronmpty Weinmpty lied about Jesus
    Ronmpty Weinmpty does what he pleases
    because he thinks that he’s God
    But his curses are flawed
    Cuz none of us died of diseases.

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Well, well………..good morning America ! welcome to Christians Eve ! ( of the destruction that never happened ), I don’t suppose anyone remembered to give Santa a call ? so he could join in the celebs ?

    and Matt, that blog was great! hahahaha

    and Mr Propeller cap, you say you don’t know how all this will happen ? well this is pretty much it ( dickhead ! ) LoL

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    (sung to the tune of “Frere jacque”)

    Ronald Weinland, Christian con man
    nothing true, not a clue
    your prophecies are stupid
    no more real than Cupid
    I mock you, Laura too…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    RON said: “If time were to go on. That we have, that I have, that we all have things to address. That if we yield ourselves to the process… something greater will be made within us. Something more will be given to us because we follow God… For my life, I know it would be a royal nightmare. But, I don’t believe those things. I believe I’ll be in Jerusalem tomorrow.”

    I believe you will be a lying, back peddling, cowardly criminal “tomorrow” WHEN JESUS DOESN’T RETURN ON MAY 27TH, AS YOU PROPHESIED IN YOUR SELF-AWARDED ROLE OF END TIME WITNESS AND PROPHET OF GOD.

    Ronald Weinland THE LIAR, Ronald Weinland the DISGRACE TO THE USA, UNWORTHY of the sacrifices made by US service men and women, BREAKER of LAWS, moral failure, and all around scumbag. You are a failure at ministering, and unworthy of the title ‘Christian’.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I have update the post after having an opportunity to listen to the whole sermon.

  • xHWA says:

    I am infinitely curious about what Ron will choose to do on Monday. I think he’ll do nothing at all. But honestly, that’s the least creative and most disappointing ending this series could put out. Much worse than Sopranos.

    To be completely honest, this site drove him to it. You called all possible outcomes, so the he had nothing left but to stage his own death in Jerusalem and go into hiding as a Tibetan monk. (Or was that called, too, and I missed it?) Now what will I laugh at next week? You should all feel ashamed. (jk)

    I do wonder what my family members who are still attending his cult will do Saturday from next, what with their Witness retired from his career as a prophet and pretending to be a yak on the Himilayan plateau. It will be hard to get a recorded sermon on the web from Katmandu. Not to mention it will be all in various grunts and snorts… and covered in slobber.

    Anywho, seems like apocalyptic cult leadership isn’t like television, because no huge unforeseen cliff-hanger is going to save his [beef] bacon. Herbert Armstrong isn’t going to pop in Saturday AM saying, “Hello everybody! I’m back! I haven’t been dead. I’ve been dressed as a Tibetan yak these 26 years, and I am here to endorse Ron.” Nope. No one is coming to help poor Ron this time. And it’s going to be spectacularly boring.
    Good thing it’s a long weekend here in the States, and I can busy myself grilling hamburgs and drinking Twisted Tea on Monday after the non-event.

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Mike ( DDTFA ), I also had the opportunity to listen to this ?, his ” tone ” I thought was unusual, albeit he was giving it on his own, It also sounded a little Suicidey to me as well , I just hope that was’nt an ” under-riding ” suggestion to the PKG’ers ? If he just backs off, from these poor people, ( when he gets out ), I think that would be for the best .

    He really should’nt have stopped taking his medication ?

  • chacha says:

    Maybe his neighbor Joyce (a member who lives across the street from him) should go check on him tomorrow morning?

    But who knows. He may be at Starbucks for his morning buzz and then home surfing the internet for any signs of WW3 (you know, the BIG ONE!) .

    He will be sitting in his room, in his bunny slippers and propeller cap, looking at his computer, skyping with Johnny and Wayne looking for signs and lying wonders and formulating a “PHEW! God IS merciful! We have more time!” sermon for NEXT WEEK!

    Yeah. OK. I am going to be enjoying the weekend and the beautiful weather we are forecasted to have…maybe take a drive to Canada…to make sure their trees haven’t burnt up…and then have a lovely BBQ. Got a nice steak…got some Canadian beer….

    Yup. I’m happy. You guys?

  • Matt says:

    I have wondered about this as well in the past. I hope that does not happen. Ron is a scumbag, but to die from religious mania is something I would not wish on anyone.

    By the way, how much time does it take for a missile to go all the way from china to the states? I would estimate at least 6 hours… which means that unless we start hearing about launches in the next 12 hours, there wont be enough time for them to go back and forth! Someone better hurry and press the red button here, we have an apocalypse to run!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    A sub-orbital ballistic missile would require on the order of a half-hour to travel to the US from China.

  • Matt says:

    Ah good plenty of time then 😛 I will relax and sit in the sun in stead

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Well? As a Canadian, I would just like to say to my southern neighbours: Have a great Memorial Day weekend. American and Canadians troops died fighting side by side as brothers and sisters in WWII/Afghanistan, etc, and we honor and pay respect to your domestic fallen heroes. So enjoy yourselves, remember the fallen in your prayers and thoughts, make sure to donate to charities that support veterans, and enjoy some good old backyard BBQ!

    All the more sweeter that we will be honouring TRUE heroes on the same weekend that a lying coward/thief has proclaimed yet another failed prophecy-and will be yet again proven to be the snivelling weakling we all know him to be…

  • chacha says:

    I’ll drink to that. 😉

    I have family that have served and one that is still active. One more reason to be glad that Ron is WRONG!

    Yes. I will be thinking of them and thankful for the service of all of those who have kept us safe and free.

    Peace
    Chacha

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Oh, andin the event of an Apocalypse, Canada is too cold to catch on fire, so everyone -please…come up here and stay at my place. Helen, Chacha, Atrocious, my wife and others can take over the basement, while Mike (DDTFA), YYZ, Matt, Douglas, and others can take the upstairs. My office will be Mike (DDTFA)’s command center for his website, Douglas can take my wife’s wal-in closet and convert it into a library/research center, YYZ and I will convert the garage into a soup kitchen/clinic to provide free health care, surgery, food, and immigration services for any/all Americans escaping the destruction of the USA, the guest house will be converted into a faith center where people can take turns holding their various religious services and meetings (Monday nights will be reserved exclusively for all my atheistic,secular, gay cocaine orgies!), and the pool will be filled with fresh beer on the weekends.

    I will also dig a pit behind the garage and throw in some rotting blankets and a few stale vegetables – just in case Mal and Ryan need somewhere to stay…

  • jack635 says:

    A surface launched missile would not be the way to start a nuclear war. It all starts with a submarine launch or a ship based launch, effectively blinding the target country.

    Any country that initially launched missiles from their own country’s soil at the US would be a joke. A massive launch from any country would be suicide for that country. Only a group of madmen would start a nuclear war. Good thing Ron never became a general.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Jack 365 and Helen seem to be spiritual people, maybe we should elect them to be the ministers at our guest house church for the Christians present. I can see Jack 365 sermonizing on How to Spot a False Prophet”, Helen sermonizing on “Correcting Biblical Injustices against Women”, and Mike (DDFTA) acting as deacon, helping to set up chairs, and organise church events. We could even have an inter-faith event where Kirrily, Chacha, and I (red team) have a (friendly) debate over the idea of God with Mike, Helen, and jack 365 (blue team). The Red Team’s stance could be “Understanding the Complexities of Theology” while the blue team’s official stance could be “Jesus, Schmeesus – Just Grab Me a Beer from the Fridge already!”!!
    LOL!!

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Come on folks !, you’re not actually gonna debate an end scenario ?, thats just what he wants !, the aim is to create fear and uncertanty, dis-couragement, division and humiliation !, just exactly what he is feeling………..but I can’t tell you what to do. ( noth’in’s gonna happen )

    Australia’s rememberance day was April 25, called ANZAC Day, It is customery to remember and give thanks for our freedom, to our ” Diggers ” ( soldiers ), as well as our allies, which have stood and made their sacrifice for us as well…………so I too would like to join with you in wishing all Americans, a peaceful, and respectful Memorial Day on the 28th. in giving thanks to your fallen heroes, and returned heroes…..thank God for them and God bless you all, and your wonderful Country !

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Oops! reverse the colours! My team is the “Jesus, Schmeesus” group!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    What? The world isn’t ending this weekend? But, but…Ronald Weinland said so…and he has ALWAYS told the EXACT TRUTH!! (LOL!!)

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Oh wait I forgot…as Ron said ” God’s Truth is Progressive”. So that means:

    1. Jesus is returning on May 27th, and NOT returning on may 27th, becuase he is returning on another day.

    2. God created the world in six days but didn’t becuase he hasn’t revealed that the world was created just yet, in a powerful way that anyone outside of the PKG can understand.

    3. Ronald Weinland has God’s truth, it’s just not fully true YET… it has to be truer in a way that God will reveal when truth is truthier…

    easy…

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    When truth is truthier, and the bible is bubblier ? hahahahahaha , tops ! Ava , I think you should have been an Ad man LoL

  • jack635 says:

    “I can see Jack 365 sermonizing on How to Spot a False Prophet””

    It’ll be the guy carrying a Bible and shooting off his mouth about stuff not in the Bible. And sorry, I couldn’t be your minister. I avoid organised religion like the plague and I don’t carry a Bible because I have memorized it.

  • Jack Hertzog says:

    HEY , why all the controversy, Weinland is definitely one of the witnesses, a witness of how gullable various people can be, that didn’t take heed to Christ’s words “see that you be not deceived”, also a witness to how con men and charlatans work, yet even after all of the lies, many will still follow these pathetic liars to the death.

    It wouldn’t suprise me if Ron wouldn’t just disappear before sunset Sabbath and leave a note , saying “he’d been raptured, and that all of the faithful will be raptured with him”, who knows what crazy thing will come next.

  • Jack Hertzog says:

    There have been a lot of witnesses showing up lately, but most of them are half-witnesses, or I should say “half-wits”

  • jack635 says:

    I seriously wonder how much money Ron took in from 2006 til present. Subtract an amount required for smoke and mirrors, and he leaves the stage with a pretty purse. 1000 people X $1200/year X 6 years = “lots of money” He should be retiring with a couple million maybe more.

    But if HWA really mindf#@ked Ron’s head, then he’s spent it all including the amount he had socked away, to try to prove to the judge that the money socked away was for end time advertising. Which really is a vain attempt to escape the grasp of the law.

    But I’d put my money on him slipping away with 2-3 million dollars of retirement fun in the sun.

  • Atrocious says:

    As for me, I am going to spend the day tomorrow getting acquainted with my new kitten, Shadow. Sunday and Monday are going to be quiet for me since I spent this week helping my sister with her garage sale. So you all have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I’ll bet Ron will be REALLY hoping Jesus will return on June 4th in court, when Jesus doesn’t show up this weekend! LOL!

  • jack635 says:

    Is that his next court date, June 4th?

  • Jason says:

    I’m confused. Ron said that Christ will return on the 27th but you say the 26th. Is the 26th the day that WWIII is supposed to break out?

  • Jack Hertzog says:

    Say Jack 635, I wonder if Ron is able to leave the country, even with out a passport,of course he could maybe buy his way into some banana republic, a lot of crooks have, just pay off the right people and they’ll wave em right through customs

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Here is Ron;s schedule for the weekend:

    may 26th AM: shit pants and cry like a baby.
    May 26 PM: hide under blanket in bedroom and hope everyone forgets the whole thing.
    May 27th: AM: Look out the window hopefully.
    May 27th PM: Shits pants, cries like a bay, and hides under blanket again.
    May 28th AM: Hides under the bed sucking his thumb, shitting his poants and trying desperately to go to his ‘happy place’ while laura shines up her diamonds and goes shopping with one of their 24 credit cards.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Uh-oh Ronnie: The Sabbath is coming up in Jerusalem in a couple of hours from now, which means the May 26th Sabbath starts in two hours. Since the Jewish Sabbath is considered a religious ‘day’, your violent wet-dream of WWIII should be ramping up right now, the Asian Hordes HAVE TO be visible and rolling in order to fulfill prophecy and make it to the Middle East. If they don;t leave NOW, they won’t make it in time to fulfill prophecy…

    …SO YOUR STUPID PROPHECIES THAT WON’T COME TRUE ARE NOW COMPLETELY NOT COMING TRUE FOR THE WORLD TO “SEE”…

    …THE ASIAN HORDES ARE NOWHERE, RON.

    YOU HAVE OFFICIALLY BEEN PROVEN (YET AGAIN) TO BE A FALSE PROPHET AND A LIAR!!!

    Mockers WIN!!!!

  • jack635 says:

    Here is Ron’s possible alternate schedule:
    May 25th PM: unpacking after long flight to French Riviera; travelling under the name Ronald and Laura Hewlitt with bona fide passports and birth certificatesl
    May 26th AM: wake up hung over then have room service breakfast.
    May 27th AM: private cruise to northern Italy
    May 28th AM: drive though Alps to the Swiss town of Cham
    May 29th PM: board flight to Singapore for two months of R&R

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Doubt your prediction there Ava, I rekon they’ll be checked in to a luxury motel, in Cincinatti, a room on maybe 50th floor, gazing down on the city, at dusk, from a panoramic window , and hoping to see ” Rome ” burn ( like NERO ) at ” His ” believed result, of Jesus return. I really think he should’nt have stopped taking his medication….. LoL

  • jack635 says:

    Jack Herzog, if you have enough money you can buy a real passport and a real birth certificate. You just won’t be able to choose your name. Even in this day and age of computers, it still happens for the rich. But you have to have “lots of money”.

  • Avalo, I appreciate your most kind and generous invitation, but I don’t have a passport and I have to stay home and take care of Mikey (he’s going to release his special “Return of Jesus Christ” blog entry tomorrow).

    Sorry.

    Thanks anyway.

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    What about this one for their Sabbath, Laura gets worried about Ron, pressing his face against the window and sobbing uncontrollably, and calls for an ambulance from the State mental facility ? Then Laura , gets ready for a night on the town, and calls up Petula Clarke so they can go ” Downtown ” together ? ( Hey its midnight here and I’ve only had two Turkeys and coke , my excuse , anyway ) LoL

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ordinarily I would agree with you Budgie, BUT…Ron hasn’t played his hand very well. A really GOOD con man would be out and gone by now, having not lied on his income tax, and just split with the money after flying to Europe. heck, you could live like a KING for decades in South Korea for the kind of money he has stored up, and no one would ship him out. he could hide in a corner of Vietnam and live like a GOD for 100 years, surrounded by a loyal private army and sex slaves with the money he has now!

    He could have done so much better than he has and YET he chose this route? The steps of a moron, not a criminal mastermind! LOL!

  • Undoubtedly, Laura will be out shopping for new Jewelry on Monday, Memorial Day, as there will be plenty of sales at Zale’s, no doubt.

    I think though, that Memorial Day will have an entirely new meaning for the Weinlands, don’t you?

  • he could hide in a corner of Vietnam and live like a GOD for 100 years, surrounded by a loyal private army and sex slaves with the money he has now!

    Yeah, but really, does he have enough money after he buys the Viagra, even if he gets it cut rate discount from a third world country?

    I mean, what good are sex slaves if you can’t rise to the occasion?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Believe me folks, my (native) Vietnamese wife and I KNOW Vietnam thoroughly and have been there more than a dozen times for stretches of up to three months at a time…Even $10 goes a LONG way on the street!! DO NOT underestimate the craftiness and will to survive of the Vietnamese. They are world leaders in ‘making do’…I love them all! 🙂

    If Ron had done his homework he would be in HaiPhong right now, living in his colonial mansion, sipping banana drinks and having his feet oiled by teenage girls…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Or…he could have bought a luxury houseboat, and just sailed around the beautiful waters of Ha Long Bay, buying fruit from the merchant boats, and drinking Rattlesnake Whiskey while sunbathing…

  • Jack Hertzog says:

    I didn’t think a Spirit being needed all these amenities, like oiled feet (-:

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Or even better, he could have moved to Japan, become a monk at one of the Zen temples that takes in foreigners on a permanent basis for long term study and ordination, and NOT SPENT ANY MONEY AT ALL DAILY, just giving the monks a few dollars every now and then, eat their delicious (free) vegetarian food, and go out and PAARRTTTYY HARD in Osaka or Kobe on the weekends for the rest of his life!!!

    Ron is not what you would call a ‘thinker’!! LOL!

  • Jack Hertzog says:

    Have we ever thought that maybe GOD has confused Ron to make him look even more of a false prophet than he is, I once prayed that he would be confused, so that group would fall apart, it brings reproach onto the remaining viable COG

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    This kind of thing is KARMA.

    My wife survived the misery and horror of the Vietnam War, and came to Canada as a shivering, scared little girl. Thanks to my job/investments/life insurance, she doesn’t and NEVER WILL have to work a day in her life…AND YET she works tirelessly/ceaselessly to help Vietnamese immigrants to canada get settled, learn their way around Toronto, help them bring their families (aging parents/grandparents) to Canada and find good homes with financial support.

    I could bury her in a MOUNTAIN of luxury items and she would sell them, and use the money to build a community center for Viet-Canadian seniors who have a hard time understanding English!

    RONALD WEINLAND on the other hand seeks and lusts for power and wealth, and abuses others to get them…do you think he is a happy guy, being who he is?

    You reap what you sow, Ronald, you miserable worm…

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Haha, sorry Jack , I got off the bus when Ava was talking about sitting around with Monks, vegitarian food, and oiled feet, and banana drinks Hahahahahaha I thought Ron would’ve been slippery enough !…………no worries, I’m ok now ! hahahahahaha

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    One hour to go until the May 26th Sabbath in Jerusalem, Ron…Uh-oh…no Asian Hordes, no Europe…the things that MUST happen before Christ returns AREN’T happening, Ronnie!

    It’s almost May 26th in Beijing right NOW, Ron…only another half an hour before May 26th in China… and there is ZERO activity militarily. No troops massing, no midnight government session to authorize and declare the movement of 200 MILLION troops in the morning…

    Uh-oh Ron!! Your LIES are starting to REALLY show now!! 🙂

  • For those who are interested, Banned by HWA has a PKG pictorial end time – time line:

    http://armstrongismlibrary.blogspot.com/2012/05/ron-weinlands-calendar-of-events.html

    as a reference from its source at

    http://www.bible.ca

    Enjoy (if that’s the word you prefer to use [sneer, mock]).

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Douglas: The picture Mikey uses looks like the new section of Pearson International Airport in Toronto. That’s where salvation lies? AWESOME!!

    I’ll be spending eternity in the KLM Executive Lounge eating mixed rice and drinking Heineken, waiting for my first class flight to ShangHai!!!!

    All praise Mikey the Leader

  • jack635 says:

    Guys, I’m sorry to report the headlines from today’s Shanghai daily. It seems the Chinese are starting to amass in a violent and angry way. Is Ron right about the Asians?

  • jack635 says:

    Douglas, you better hide Mickey.

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    WhOOOOps ! I think he has been too busy organising flights, hotel accomodation, and being the general ” bag man “, he’s obviously forgotten to tell ( command ) the Nations, and 200 Million, what and when they were supposed to do ? After all, is’nt the IRS thing, something else he forgot ?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    That Shanghai Lady has angered our cat God MIkey!! Persecute her! Try her for heresy!! LOL! The only Asian Horde that has arisen when Ron said it (probably) would was a small crowd of cat lovers in Shanghai!! LMAO!!!

    Hey Ron! If that is the case, and small crowd of cat lovers = Asian Hordes, then the only return of ‘jesus’ this weekend will be my neighbour Jesus (Gonzales) returning from his business trip to Dallas!

    Ronald Weinland – the Failure that keeps on FAILING…

  • Jacque says:

    Hi, I am Ron’s sister and am very concerned for him. I get that you are all angry….and with good cause. I love my brother and his family very much, but I do see that he has used others for personal gain and that saddens me. A little history….We grew up with a very angry father. I feel that we learned early on how to survive. Ron was just smart enough and charismatic enough to get to where he is. I honestly feel that he thinks he is a prophet. My only hope for him is that he will admit the error of his ways and repent. Only by the grace of God have I been able to “come out” of the false teachings of “The Church”. I now know that I am saved by the blood of my savior, Jesus Christ, and don’t have to keep laws because I’m afraid not to. I now study His words and try to emulate Him to the best of my ability….. with God’s grace. I so want that for my family and all of you. Please help me pray for my brother. Isn’t that what God calls us to do?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Hi Mark! ready to admit your God is fake and Ronald Weinland is a lying criminal yet?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Uh-oh. As of this very post it is now just after 12:00 midnight…so it is now May 26th in Bejing. The Asian Hordes now only have 24 hours to get all their 200 MILLION armed men (on horseback) to Megiddo to fight Jesus!

    Uh-oh Ron….your prophesyin’ ain’t working right yet…

  • Mark says:

    Quite the contrary, Avalo, Ron’s failed prophecies make my God not a liar. Ron is the liar. I am sorry that your parents abandoned you because of HWA. That’s the tragic tale of so many children of the WCG.

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Jacque, I think that you are going to have just about put your plea to everyone here individually, I myself was an ex orphan, ( 3 – 16 yo ) then released to a very cold and unforgiving world, I studied and crawled from out of the mess , and made something with my life, no thanks to the many preachers whom tried to rip- me -off along the way.

    Read along this thread, you see stories of families torn apart by your brother’s lies………..why did you not seek such help for him three and one half years ago ? this is why we’re angry, and this is where most of the damage ( I can see , he has caused ), I do not despise you, however, you could have expressed such concern for your loved ones a little earlier ? Did something ?

  • randy terlecki says:

    monday morning when none of this shit happen, all these p.k.g. need to get to gether and put a law suit on this asshole and sue him for every penny they got and instead of him dead in the streets he will be broke in the streets

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Budgie: You and I both REALLY know what it is like to be on the receiving end of religious “love”. You will then understand what those lonely days feel like. Looking out the window at life passing you by. Wondering why your ceaseless prayers go unanswered. Being rejected constantly by those you need, thanks to all of that wonderful “Godly love”. I have those days BURNED into my consciousness by the slow, grinding, seemingly endless days of heartache and fear, the minutes feeling like weeks…I can think of no higher honor than rejecting and opposing the idea of Yahweh, and his snivelling minions who put me on this path…

    BTW: It is now after sunset in jerusalem, so the May 26th Sabbath has begun. No Anti-Christ, no Asian Hordes, no European military stirrings, no signs and wonders in the heavens…just another day on earth watching the PKG blindly grovelling before their idiot-god Ronald Weinland…

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Jacque, and just how do we know that youre not part of his legal defence team ?, trying to raise some kind of ” merciful statement ” , ( from his bitter opponents ) which can the be presented, in some kind of ” Plea “……………Pfft, fancy lawyer tricks ! …….nice try !

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Yeah, here here ! Ava, and thanks.

  • jack635 says:

    Avalo that was uncalled for. Each individual is responsible for their own actions and you cannot blame another person for Ron’s actions. You say you a happy person on account of your atheism. That comment seemed hateful to me. If you were talking to Ron I could understand.

  • martin says:

    7:35pm Friday (IDT) – Sunset in Jerusalem, Israel
    began 17 minutes ago

  • Matt says:

    I am an atheist too, but I do not wish suicide on anyone. My thoughts go out to you Jacque – if you are who you say you are. If you are concerned for your brothers safety, now might be a good time to go for a surprise visit? If he is deluded, then the company of someone who does not share and/or enable his delusion might be beneficial.

    His appearance at his court-case a few days ago suggests that he is not THAT delusional, but perhaps it would be better to be safe than to be sorry. I do not think his little religious enterprise has ever faced a challenge like this, and a lack of courage can work both ways.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Careful there Avalo. I moderated that comment as you crossed the line. You know it, and I don’t want to discuss it further.

    Jacque, I’ll take you at your word that you are Ron’s sister. As far as any sympathy for ? him ???? !!!!. Nothing left for Ron, after considering the abuse he’s heaped directly on his church members and indirectly on those who genuinely care for his church members (friends and relations of same)

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Budgie: You and I are tigers…survivors…winners…

    Our success is a thorn in the side of the weak and the cowardly theist…enjoy every second of your victory over religion…you and I are that rare creature…a thinking human being who dared to stand up to blind, terrified faith…

    Uh-oh. Still no Hordes, Ron…your prophecies still ain’t working right…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Moderate away, brother Mike! I am having such a good time watching Ron fail, you can dress me up in my wife’s underwear and call me Edna for all I care! LOL!

    Just as long as Weinland keeps on failing, I’ll keep on mocking…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Uh-oh. China and its allies have only 22.5 hours left to get the 200 MILLION man army to Megiddo…Better hurry up there, folks…Ronald Weinland is God’s prophet and he has commanded you to go.

    We can’t let down Ronald Weinland now can we?

  • Mark says:

    “So where will COG-PKG be a year from now? Probably still scouring scriptures for where Weinland went wrong, trying desperately to make sense of the future, wishing for an end to a world they abandoned. These are investors who believe in the company no matter how far its stock plummets. Provided Weinland survives his legal turmoil, we can expect another apocalyptic prophecy sometime in the future. If he’s fitted for an orange jumpsuit, his followers will likely rally around his organizational or spiritual predecessor (like David Pack?) and play the game all over again.”

    http://silenced.co/2012/05/where-will-cog-pkg-be-next-year/

  • martin says:

    Ronald Weinland has cursed to death ministers, he has cursed to death those that disagree, he has cursed to death celebrities.

    Jesus Christ is coming back some day. Ronald Weinland has nothing to do with it, nor will he be involved with it, unless he repents and gives up all those titles he’s heaped up for himself.

    As I see it, no false prophet in history has ever fully repented that I know of.

  • martin says:

    The distance from Beijing China (a good starting place to use for distance, for the Asian hordes) is 4425 miles (really more, as this is the straight line distance).

    A tank carrying Asian hordes from the east travels about 20mph.

    At 20mph (non-stop) it will take 221.25 hours to reach Jerusalem. Which is a little over 9 days.

    So unless they strap rocket boosters onto their tanks, I doubt they will make it for tomorrows Armageddon dinner feast.

  • martin says:

    Plus the Euphrates river hasn’t dried up yet…….

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Good luck trying to get past Iran and Iraq there, China…

  • jack635 says:

    In order for a Chinese tank to travel 4425 miles, it would require 6696.5 litres of diesel fuel. Are there lots of gas stations along the way, or will each tank be towing a 7500 litre logistics trailer? Then there is hydraulic fluid, grease, spare parts.

  • Helen says:

    I would LOVE to be with team Mike and Jack635. The thing is though we don’t need to debate, we are secure in what each of us believe or don’t believe. At least that is what I get from them and I like that!! To agrue or debate with our fellow Mike blog family is really silly. By now we all should know where we stand.
    Jacque. If you are Ron’s sister, which I know his sister, I am a bit confused. He has another sister? His mom never mentioned her to me or Ron. But like Mike said he will take you at your word. I don’t, but if so, kudo’s to ya. But I have to agree whole heartedly with Mike on the pray for Ron thing!! for me, don’t think so.. it would be like praying for the devil..Devil doesn’t change his colors.

    Avalo, if I come out there you better have plenty of Stella Artois and Vietnamese food.

  • Matt says:

    Will travel for Pho

  • Pope Fiction says:

    Interesting atmosphere this mess is generating, it’s like a Weinland-bashing party. I’m here nor there, but now seems a good a time as any to thank the admin for running this blog. I have a genuine curiosity about where Weinland’s going to end up and if he’ll own up to what he’s put his followers through, so I hope this site continues into the near future to cover the trial and its aftermath.

  • Mikey has no need to hide. You will see tomorrow, Mikey’s reaction to the non return of Christ.

    I am only aware of two cats mocking Weinland: Mikey and Dillweed Jr. Are there others?

    And don’t ask me after tomorrow when you see the picture — I have NO idea where Mikey got God’s Day Planner; it’s a cat thing, I guess.

  • sebastian says:

    Are we really this bored that we are calculating Chinese tank time? You guys know he is wrong so go do something….anyone got Xbox Live? Haha add me iTz SeB xD wont for like 7hrs tho, gotta drs appointment and baseball

  • jack635 says:

    That’s so funny. Even cats are mocking Ronald Weinland. CATS!!!

  • jack635 says:

    Sebastian, some of us are old and retired. It’s not boredom, it’s called mocking. Two cats are bored. But even they are mocking Ron.

  • J says:

    I’m officially one of the 7,000. Hooray!

  • jack635 says:

    I wouldn’t expect anything less from you Douglas.

  • Atrocious says:

    That was funny, Douglas Becker. Kinda took me by surprise and I burst out laughing.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen/Matt: You haven’t had pho ga until you have had it at our place sitting at a dinner table with a giant circle of War-Era Vietnamese seniors smoking, drinking, telling tall tales, and the ladies cursing more than the men! I dont know what makes the air bluer…the smoke or the language!!

    Believe me Helen, you would be put in the seat of honor at our Pho gathering. You’re one of the few Christians who ACTUALLY does what Jesus said to do!! You are about as common as a unicorn riding a scooter…

    It’s now 3 am, May 26th in Beijing…only 21 hours left to get ‘Hording’ there, Asian folks…Ronald Weinland has divinely foretold it!! LOL!!

  • Jacque says:

    Helen, I guess I can’t prove to any of you who I am….and I wonder if that really matters. You must mean you know our younger sister, Kris. When I got out of the “church” it was at a very hurtful time in my life. My then husband, of 28 yrs., left me for someone else (he’s still in “the church”). Only my mom and sister even called me to offer comfort. So yeah, I know how hurtful the “brothers” can be. I felt very condemned by “the church”, but I finally did what God calls all of us to do. I forgave those who were misled, and misleading, and repented of my foolishness. It was my choice to follow blindly, and yeah I did get hurt….but I did realize, (with God’s help), that I could become bitter or better. —You all sound very hurt and believe me, I am sorry. However, I am not my brother and could, and can, do nothing to help him, other than ask God to show him real “truth”.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Well let’s see…its already the Sabbath in Jerusalem, I’ve angered mark/been moderated by Mike, Ron;s imaginary sister has shown up, Dopuglas has set out some Middle Eastern fruit for Jesus, and Mikey the Cat has offered us membership in his religious cult…

    …looks like we are off to a rip-roaring start to the Non-Return of Jesus Holiday Weekend!! Hooray!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Well let’s see…its already the Sabbath in Jerusalem, I’ve angered Mark/been moderated by Mike, Ron’s imaginary sister has shown up, Douglas has set out some Middle Eastern fruit for Jesus, and Mikey the Cat has offered us membership in his religious cult…

    …looks like we are off to a rip-roaring start to the Non-Return of Jesus Holiday Weekend!!

    Hooray!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Jacque:

    I am curious. Why exactly are you posting? To apologize for your brother? To distance yourself from his actions? I personally don’t care, as I threw your theology overboard decaes ago, but it might be helpful (?) to people if you explained why only now you have shown up to say what you are saying? Don;t you think you could have been warning people about Ron’s theology for the time you have been out? Hearing all this from Ron’s ‘sister’ might have saved a few people. Can you see why I and possibly others here are not only skeptical of your “sorrow” but might find your attempt at some sort of appeasement…insulting?

    No antagonism meant…just curious…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    For example: You could have started a website/blog called “Don’t Listen to my Brother…He is a False Prophet”. You could have called the radio stations Ron made his predictions on and set up an interview where you decried his lies. I GUARANTEE you they would have booked it. It would have made great radio to hear Ron;s own kin call him out on his lies.

    You can see how I am not particularly moved by your posts. In fact, I think you are actually Ron posting under a pseudonym, trying to placate his mockers. Seems like the kind of deceitful, sneaky thing he would do…

    ?????

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Careful there Avalo, getting close to the line. You should have evidence before making such accusations.

    As owner of this blog, I have special magical powers and other sourced information suggests to me that Jacque is not Ron and is consistent with her claims. And I don’t see that she has a special responsibility to clean up after brother Ron.

    Jacque, let me say that while I have zero sympathy for your brother, I do have some for you. Who has to watch her mother and sister deal with this nonsense.

  • Helen says:

    Amen to that Avalo.. Why Now missy???

    Hahaha Avalo it seems the women there and I will get along just GREAT!!!
    I guess I am a different “lot” Avalo. Unicorn riding a scooter.. lmbo.. good discription!!!
    Sometimes you make me laugh so hard I pee my pants. WARNING!! Not nice to do that to just over middle aged people, LOL…

    I guess I am just as excited as most on here to see another false end of the world era come to an end and nothing happening.
    I mean totally pumped.. Now for June 4th..
    Avalao and Kirrily if it hits you guys first let us know ok??? I will make sure I hurry and shower and put something nice on..

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    “I think” is not an accusation. Here’s an accusation for you:

    Ronald Weinland is a low IQ weaklings who hides behind fairy tales to abuse as many people as he can…

  • Richard Ball says:

    “his talented legal team at the law firn of Frost Brown Todd”

    Ron’s law firn was part of the 2/3ds vegetation that was ~not~ destroyed.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen: You have stood by my rantings and ravings and understood them in their proper context.

    You will always be seated at the head of our table as the VIP guest anytime…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Actually that is a really good point Helen! Kirrily and I are the secularists, and I am married to a pagan Asian!! I will be getting the full brunt of Ron’s Imaginary Apocalypse!

    Tell you what Helen: Kirrily and I will monitor all activities among the our godless communities and if anything starts happening we’ll warn you to head to the hills!! LOL!!

  • Helen says:

    OK Jacque. Question. If you are his sister what did you make me at the 2005 feast as a gift.? You know who I am I use my REAL name.. I know you were skeptical of your brother for years, even when I was in. I left then you ended up joining and hubby. If you are the only sister then this should be an easy question.
    Like I said I only have met and heard about ONE sister. Even your mumsy when I roomed with her at Feast never mentioned another daughter or son. Maybe reason why she didn’t. Don’t know. Curious minds want to know..

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Actually, as a gift to all the Christians I have offended here, I will monitor all the anti-christs, and if any of my friends start exploding I’ll admit you guys were right!!

    Peace!!

  • Jacque says:

    I guess I’m not really sure why I’m writing now. Probably didn’t do it sooner for selfish reasons, I didn’t want to hurt my family members that believe this nonsence. Do you honestly think I could in any way have saved any of you from anything? I couldn’t even save myself. It took God and a severe trial to do that. I guess the good I’d hope might come from my posting would be that through what I have personally experienced could in some way encourage someone else.

  • Helen says:

    mistake. You did get baptized missy before I got out, but not while at Feast yet. Mike can correct me on that.

  • Jangster says:

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    Avalo, you seem to be preoccupied with RW’s unraveling failure. Perhaps you’re giving this man a little too much of your time and attention, given your obvious disdain for him?

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  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    And just exactly how are you going to encourage the PKG who are as of this very moment being spiritually misled and destroyed by Ron’s May 27th based prophetic ministry?

  • jack635 says:

    By letting them come HERE and speak their minds.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    While I’m not 100% sure, I believe that Ron is the oldest of 5 children, with two brothers and two sisters. I was aware of a mother and sister in Kansas and a brother in Colorado. Helen, you are probably thinking of the younger sister. Why his mother never mentioned other siblings? Maybe subject never came up.

  • Jangster says:

    Jacque, I don’t buy your story.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Jangster:

    1. I give him my attention to honor every tear and drop of sweat I shed in frustration and terror trying to survive on my own in a godless, mechanical universe. It is my honor and privilege to be a light shining out for freedom from religion…

    2. I give him my attention to honor my atheist brothers and sisters who died at the hands of the religious down through history.

    3. I give him my attention to honor every gay couple who in 2012 are not allowed to marry in many US states.

    4. I give him my attention so Sebastian doesn;t have to be scared of Ron’s Imaginary Apocalypse.

    5. I give him my attention because doing so has gotten YOUR attention and the attention of others here to consider what I am saying.

    6. I give him my attention so others will join me in shining a light into RW’s intellectual darkness that his poising his fellow humans…

    And so on…

  • Jangster says:

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    Avalo, you couldn’t have chosen a worse poster boy to represent your blanket assumptions about religion and those who believe in god(s).

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  • jack635 says:

    Well hold on. Ron could represent the very bottom of religion.

  • Helen says:

    Thing is Jangster. And I am not saying this in a mean way at all. But that is what this blog is about, I mean with Ron. I don’t know if you have ever been in Ron’s PKG, but some of us have. And as myself still have a family member in there who hasn’t talked to me in a long time because of Ron. On this blog what better way to display our disappointments and hatered for Ron. It isn’t easy to get over. Just makes the hurt a little bit more satisfying to know he comes out as always to be a liar, cheat, con etc.etc.. Very harmful for families. My only relative of that era left in our family, and now that is lost because of Ron’s deciet.
    Yep it hurts, but we all make our choices in life and the choice was made. I am out of the picture with family member and you know what, I can handle that just fine when I am on this blog. Good medicine. Ron. Bad medicine.
    I think just about ALL of us on here are preocupied with Ron now. Waiting joyfully for his 2nd end-time failure.
    I did think at one time he was given to much credit, but I don’t believe that now at all. He isn’t giving any good credit as he shouldn’t, but I will give him all the bad credit due… What is that song by lady gaga “HE’s a Monster”…

  • Helen says:

    Thanks Mike for the info.. Honestly I never heard her or any of the close PKGERS to her and I talk about anybody but Ron and Chris. I wonder if Ron doesn’t allow it because they think he is nuts and they are black sheep? You would think staying with his mom for a week I would have heard something. Well from somebody.. that is strange to me. But what isn’t strange about the PKG..
    But thanks again Mike for straightening me out on that… mind blowing.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Nope. Ron represents the theology that made ME. I am what you get when Armstrongite Theology meets a curious teenager in the 1970s with an IQ over 160. I am the result of their lies and greed…a failure on their part to do the right thing does NOT demand any righteousness or humility on my part. Look at Budgie, Kirrily, and I. We were born of YOUR COLLECTIVE RELIGIOUS SICKNESS…

  • Jack Hertzog says:

    One thing we might keep in mind is, that these prophecies will come to pass, though not when nor how we think they will and God will have His true prophets, as the Two witnesses are to be, and true prophets don’t speak off the tops of their heads, they speak because God tells them to speak, and they will not speak lies, and if we are really converted and recipients of the Holy Spirit, we will know with out a doubt, that they are True servants of God, they will not be doing it for money or vanity, in fact God can warn the world any time He choose and it won’t cost a nickle.

  • Jacque says:

    Helen, you are actually the one that is mistaken. I did not attend the feast in 2005. The last feast I attended was in 2000 in Estes Park, CO. The last minister that I “followed” was Ron Dart. I never was a member of my brother’s church, although I did listen to him from time to time when he was in the area. The last time I listened to him he told us that we could not discern the bible for ourselves and that we needed one of God’s ministers to interpret it for us. That was when I started thinking for myself.

    Mike, you are correct. There are five of us. My other two brothers were never in the “church”.

  • Mark says:

    “Avalo, you couldn’t have chosen a worse poster boy to represent your blanket assumptions about religion and those who believe in god(s).”

    Amen to that.

    For Avalo, though, I learned that he was hurt very deeply by his parents as a result of Armstrongism. Weinland, in many respects, is a caricature of the whole corrupt system that Herbie instituted 75 years ago.

  • Helen says:

    As a mother I talked about my kids and hubby. I thought it was natural for a mother to do so..

  • jack635 says:

    Helen, she could have been shunned because “the truth is not in her”. That’s a reason you may not have been told about her. Amazing how even Ron’s family can be torn apart by Armstrongism, or any religion that allows the doctrine of hatred towards others.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    And as for Ronald Weinland himself…I would love to see him in my shoes as a teenager abandoned by his CoG parents, with no money or support. Y’know who saved my butt? A bunch of poor Vietnamese Buddhist immigrants who had nothing and no hope but took me under their wing and saved me from the street/jail/suicide/other.

    Who do you think I am going to be loyal to? Just who do you think I am going to rise against?

  • Helen says:

    Thank you Jacque. Appreciate you answered me back. Never heard about the other 3 of you.. I came in 2003.

  • Helen says:

    Jack635. You very well are correct. I can see that happening, hey it happened with me.. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
    Pretty sad and sick isn’t it. That is another reason why it is called a cult. Through and through..

  • Jangster says:

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    Helen, my father married into an ‘Armstrongist’ church when I was 11 and left his kids high and dry. Granted, he’s not a part of RW’s church, but HWA’s influence has reached much farther than just one man’s disillusions.

    Avalo said: “We were born of YOUR COLLECTIVE RELIGIOUS SICKNESS…”

    [My] collective religious sickness? Thanks for generalizing the entire religious population there, bub. You’re doing wonders for the Athiest cause.

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  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    You are right, Mark…I took that pain deep into my soul and it drove me up and away from my past. My wife took the misery of the Vietnam War and turned it into the salvation of Vietnamese immigrants. HWA turned my soul to ice, and that ice has ensured my kids will grow up happy and financially secure…and they will never know what my wife and I know about life.

    Do NOT mistake my pain for regret…my wife and I have built an entire community of non-theists and free thinkers around us…thank HWA for inspiring an entire generation of WWCG youth to reject the very thing he lived for…

    …every second that ticks by this weekend, another confused CoG theist starts questioning god and feeling the pain I felt…I can think of no better gift…

  • Jangster says:

    Just curious Mike (DDTFA), what is your record for total comments on one post for this blog?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    You’re welcome Jangster…anything I can do to get theists angry and annoyed…

  • Jangster says:

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    Avalo, nice.

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  • jack635 says:

    I remember when Mike broke the 100 comments barrier, but that was years ago.

  • JB says:

    Jacque, I am going to trust you are Ron’s sister. I imagine it took a lot of strength for you to jump on this tread. I have never been in PKG nor have I every believed a word Ron has said, but my husband has. After 42 years of marriage Ron has turned our life upside down. It sounds like your life has been greatly affected by the lies of your brother. You can understand why so many of us go beyond mocking but are truely angry at him. I am a christian but cannot forgive him, he is a con man and lead by satan. He is saying his farewell now, what that means I don’t know. Hopefully he will completely disband PKG, go through his trial, go to jail and release members to live a complete and full life without him. I will pray for those members and their families.

  • Helen says:

    Sorry about that Jangster. Things like that just shouldn’t be happening to any child or family. It is not right.

  • Frank says:

    «One thing we might keep in mind is, that these prophecies will come to pass»

    As an atheist, I beg to differ.

  • jack635 says:

    What prophecies? Nothing that comes out of a preachers mouth will be a prophecy.

  • Jangster says:

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    Helen, it’s an unfortunate situation, yes. However, something I’ve had to start learning is that I can’t blame RW, HWA or anyone for the choices my father and PKG friends have made. As crafty as these fellows may be, I have chosen to hold the members accountable for their decisions. My father has missed out on a lot in my life because of his infatuation for “special” “truth”, but who ultimately made that choice? He did. After realizing this, I have been able to address my frustration and hurts over what he’s done (or not done). I’ve chosen to forgive him.

    This is not to say that I believe men like RW should not be accountable for deceiving people in they way that he has. I firmly believe that RW will be brought to justice for what he has done, but I’m not the one he’ll have to stand before. My time is better spent addressing my ties that are closer to home.

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  • Matt says:

    I agree with you, Jangster. If there was not this hankering that people have for being a party to special esotheric knowledge, to be some kind of spiritual elite, then Ron would have nothing to sell and he would simply be considered a harmless madman. And yet there is something especially loathsome about someone who uses that weakness people have for their own benefit. Even if they are deluded themselves, they are still a level of selfishness above those who merely follow them.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I hear you Brother Frank! Nice to know there are other free humans here who don’t moderate themselves to comfort the ignorance of the theists…

  • Helen says:

    Jangster. I am going to say something on here I have never said, because I chose to look back now and take it as a learning experience and know how NOT to be as a parent. To appreciate life and family as it should be taken so.
    My cuz on here knows about it of course. But I also, along with my brothers were somewhat abandon from family. The 3 of us were split to live with different family members off and on. VERY disfunctional. My dad was a total unloving jerk. Cared only about himself. Won’t go into details.
    But that was families bad chose. I am glad my dad didn’t want to raise me. Now that I see how my half sister turned out that he adored so much. Trust me I am very glad. Sure I would of loved to have a loving family, kum bye ya, brady bunch type. But I didn’t. So at 20 years old I met the man of my dreams and had 2 wonderful sons. That is when my life began. So let me see, that would make me only 41 years old..young. 🙂 Wouldn’t take anything back either. All I can say is where ever you ended up dad thanks for not loving me, because it made me stronger… Amen to that.. Do I hear a Amen to that Avalo!! lol
    Life is a box of chocolates, ya never know what your going to get.. sry. love that movie and saying by forest gump..
    I can honestly say I have been the luckiest gal for 41 years, even with the ups and downs..
    OK. I dont like to get mushy. Sorry.. you can put away the kleenex now, I am done. haha

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Geez, a lot has gone on while I’ve been sleeping on a cold crisp nearly winters day in the land down under 🙂

    Jacque – I hold no sympathy for your brother, sister in law, niece or nephew.

    Unlike the ‘nicer’ people here, I would love it if the bastard killed himself. Well, maybe that is too good for him. I would rather he go to jail, Laura ends up being a prostitute and a drug addict, and because their kids were co-conspirators in this half delusion half scam, that they struggle for the rest of their lives.

    I no longer pray – period. I might start praying to Superman though!

    Your brother is the scum of the earth. I feel sorry for you that you have to share his blood. He is a disgusting excus for a human being, and he deserves to loose everything. I hope you realise that because of him, someone will loose their life this weekend. My belief is that at least 1 will kill themselves.

    Your brother will feel no shame, no sorrow. His arrogance will last until his dying day.

    So no, he does not have my sympathy. I will enjoy the day I either see him loose his life, go to jail, or his bitch gets the same.

    Like I said, I am not as nice as others here…… What about you Chacha?

    Helloooooooo Mal? Ryan? You are both very quiet!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Amen Helen. No disrespect to your father, but it is totally his loss if he decided to give up on such a vivacious, high spirited Polish lass such as yourself. Looks like both our parents were fools for letting us loose alone in the world.

    I would have gladly been the meek little God-loving lamb I was supposed to become…but if you are going to throw a kid out, better be prepared to have a DRAGON come back home 20 years later…

    here’s to you Helen and Budgie…have a great Jesus free weekend…I gotta go eat dinner with a gorwing number of Vietnamese “relatives” all pouring through the door now, looking for beer, poker, food, and gossip…and I just saw the cat go sneaking by my office door with a tiger prawn in her mouth, so I have to go get her before she chokes on it…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    great! and now the basement toilet just backed up…looks like the only thing returning this weekend is a little sewage in my basement!

    See y’all on Sunday…

  • jack635 says:

    scum of the earth.

    I can agree with that Kirrily. But I hold no ill will towards Jacquie or any other person who has disassociated themselves from Ron’s crap. And there may be more ex PKG members showing up here in the next days. They deserve a soft place to land. As for those who continue in his ways, they deserve what they get, both here and in the world.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Jacque – its not that your brother started all this. I take responsibility for believing his baloney, and Garner Ted’s before him. If he had of QUIT like he said he would, if nothing happened (and it didn’t) on April 18, 2008.

    If he had have done THAT, he most definately would have had my sympathy.

    But no, he kept going and going and going. I would be shocked if he ever stopped. That’s why in many ways Laura, Wayne and Johnny are MORE guilty. Ron is obviously very sick, and a con man at the same time. Mind bending. He has been entertaining the ‘what if’ (ie. paying his lawyers, property taxes etc) whilst publicly condemning others for doing the same!

    His wench, Johnny and Wayne MUST know he is false and have known for a long time. Their PRIDE however, will not allow them to admit their error.

    Everyone in PKG, whoever joined PKG (including myself) must take some responsibility in giving this bastard any power to begin with. Ah yes, the cancer of armstrongism…. I must say I do agree with Avo too, I believe that religion in any and all forms, is a cancer too – BUT I don’t believe that all Christians or religious people are a cancer. Eg. Mark and Avo have had it out on this blog many times, but I love them both. Why? Because they have BOTH shown me love.

    I have had ‘Christian’ friends throw me out in the cold, as well as love me.
    I have had Athiest friends throw me out in the cold, as well as love me.

    To me it’s not ones beliefs that define them – it’s the ACTIONS of their beliefs. Ron’s actions, and those around him, are vile. As I don’t believe in a God as currently described in the world, and therefore eternal punishment – I can only hope he receieves punishment in this life, for the pain and suffering he has inflicted on others with tactics he has used. It’s called mental abuse, and he needs to pay, and pay dearly for what he has done.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    I agree with you Jack – how could I not.

    This place was a soft place for me to land, and I would like to pay it forward (excluding Ron, Laura, Wayne and Johnny).

  • martin says:

    Here is the only prophecy that Ronald Weinland and his wife(the so called “silent witness”) BOTH HAVE FULFILLED.

    Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    That’s it. If Ronald is obsessed with fulfilling prophecy, then he succeeded.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Jacque, just to bring you up to speed on Kirrily. She came to my blog early in 2009 after deciding on her own that Ron was a false prophet. But dealing with the aftermath hasn’t been quite that easy, a bit of a roller coaster.

    It was a happy day for me and my regulars here on my blog when I could post a picture of Kirrily’s baby son, who would not exist if she had continued to follow Ron.

  • jack635 says:

    Martin,

    yes and “The time is at hand”; do not go after them.” (somewhere in the Bible, near the back)

    Kirrilly, pay it forward. They deserve everything fired at them, including worse than our resident rottweiller can come up with (Avalo). lol

  • jack635 says:

    That’s worthy of a reprint:

    It was a happy day for me and my regulars here on my blog when I could post a picture of Kirrily’s baby son, who would not exist if she had continued to follow Ron.

    I love newborn babies. They are perfect and innocent; pure love. (until they go to school)

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Too right Mike – Rollercoaster alright!

    Now though, with only hours left until Ron’s epic (yet my guess anti-climatic) ‘end’, I look right at my beautiful sleeping boy, and joy and love quickly replace the hatred for Ron in my heart.

    I am grateful to have my child, and feel so saddened that others have not been as lucky thanks to Herbert and his wannabies.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    15 weeks old on Monday Jack! Geez it goes quickly! You weren’t wrong! He is a little darlin 🙂

  • YYZ says:

    Jacque, personally I say thanks for showing up and giving a little insite from your perspective…better late than never. Maybe your comments will help as a preventive measure in case your brother tries to keep this going…again.
    I mayself am a little concerned for the one I know in pkg, what’s going on in his head, etc. I want to call but I don’t want to stick it in his face either,..it’s just not our style.

  • YYZ says:

    …I wonder how many pkg’ers are popping in here today,..if any are here,..hello,..glad to have you and welcomed.

  • jack635 says:

    YYZ, I’m sure there are hundreds reading right now. I just popped over to my blog stats and I can’t believe how much traffic I’ve had in the last week. Today’s numbers blow it out of the water. Mike is probably either expecting the traffic or he too is dumbfounded. heh heh I thnk I like that word now. Dumbfounding.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    My previous record for daily pageviews was on the Saturday after Ron was indicted. Beginning last Saturday, each day has been a new record for pageviews and today is headed toward a continuation of that trend.

  • Jangster says:

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    I will personally be attending a birthday party tonight where two PKG members will be in attendance. [Nevermind! As I was typing this, my wife notified me that they called in “sick” and will not be attending].

    Hmmm…. can’t imagine why they backed out!

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  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    So they probably lied?

  • jack635 says:

    Isn’t that a sin?

  • martin says:

    It will soon be sunset (EST), and it is just about 3:00am in Jerusalem.

    No 7000 COGgers have died.

    No mass recognition of Ronald Weinland from 63,000 COGgers.

    I STILL HAVE TO MOW MY LAWN on Sundays, so this whole 1/3 of grass getting burnt up, is a total washout.

    No False prophet performing miracles in the sight of men (ie calling down fire).
    No Holy Roman Empire…..
    No Nukes going off anywhere from anybody…
    No Beheadings and Martyrdom of Saints ( (a difficult task when nuclear bombs are going off around you)
    No heavenly signs
    No Mark of Beast so far (since that involves Sunday worship, that too, is a total washout)

  • jack635 says:

    What I mean is, I thought Armstrongism bans birthday parties like Christmas.

  • worker says:

    In my opinion, this is the end of the beginning for PKG. When Jesus Christ does not return the church will continue with Ronald Weinland as an apostle and pastor. Wayne Matthews, Johnny Harrell, or Terry Wrozek taking over for Ron W. Will only occur if he is no longer able to record a weekly sermon. The whole idea construct of the two witness and prophet revelation since 2005 probably will be discontinued. This new truth(s) will revolved around the next 19 year time cycle(Armstrongism pet beliefs). Unfortunately, a vast majority of RW church group will stay. I worked with one of the elders for a long period of time. Watching this whole ordeal wind down is very surreal. Viewing members of the church reacting the Weinland’s sermons in real time was something I will never forget. Hopefully, a few more individuals will leave PKG in the next few days and more families will be reunited. Jacque, I hope the non pkg/or other splinter Ronald Weinland’s family members will speak out on this blog. Honestly, now may be a perfect time for family members to reach to their love ones that are baptized, too young to be baptized, or fence sitting away from the splinter group. Why, stay with a pastor who is in error?

  • sebastian says:

    I want to thank Avalo!! I know we do not believe in the same things, but you have probably calmed me down the most! Also thanks to Mike, Kirrly, Jack, and anyone else i missed (sorry!) Thank you guys 😀

  • Family member of PKG member says:

    Does anyone know if Johnny’s daughters, Terry’s children, or Wayne’s children are PKG members?

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    I know Wayne’s kids aren’t.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Terrys 4 kids are in PKG

  • Family member of PKG member says:

    Kirrily – does Wayne stay in touch with his children?

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Well I know up to Jan 2009 (when I left) he did. His kids were very upset with him. I think he had a son and daughter?

    My mum and I were both in PKG.

    Mum left in April 2008, Wayne did not forbid me to talk with her (thought he was going to) – but suggested we not talk about the church in case it damaged my faith.

  • Purpleacb says:

    Hello everyone. I’ve posted before under the name fence sitter. I became a member of PKG in 2008. Alot has happened or not happened over the years. I began the healing process sometime last year. I haven’t officially told leadership, but stopped paying tithes months ago. I’ve missed some other members, but have been trying to distance myself from anyone associated with the church. Its crazy because I’m continuously checking news updates to make sure no bombs a are going off. This is going to be one heck of a ride. 🙂

  • jack635 says:

    No bombs will go off.

  • martin says:

    Sunrise in Jerusalem at 5:36am…..in a little over an hour.

    Has Jerusalem been surrounded by armies yet? Or did Ronald spiritualize that too? And if so, what did he spiritualize it to?

  • jack635 says:

    He spiritualized it straight into his bank account.

  • martin says:

    I wonder who ElohimJD is at ATS site, he does seem to be one of the higher ups, and not just a follower.

    He posted Ronald’s entire last blog message up.

    He’s not budging either. It’s sad, when the evidence is clear, and has been clear for quite a while, that Ronald Weinland is simply a false prophet.

    Under OT (this is repeated in NT as well) rules, TWO WITNESSES were REQUIRED in death penalty cases.

    Since the TW’s have power and authority to kill people….two (that was minimal number) men were required.

    As Mrs Weinland was silent throughout this whole debacle, she has invalidated Mr Weinland’s testimony.

  • martin says:

    5:36am Saturday (IDT) – Sunrise in Jerusalem, Israel
    14 minutes ago

    The last day for the world.

    Or not.

    I’m putting my money on “not”.

  • martin says:

    A footnote by ElohimJD at ATS (after posting Ron’s later blog entry)

    “No one other then those God has called or those that were scattered were meant to understand Ron Weinlands revealation by design; God has not yet revealed Himself to all of mankind, but that time is soon over that is EXACTLY what God is doing now, and those who have eyes to see and ears to hear will hear their shepherd in the moment they reolize the truth was indeed revealed through God’s end time prophets; Ron and Laura Weinland. ”

    (I’m not sure he was paying attention, how could truth have been revealed by two people, when one of them was silent?)

  • Helen says:

    Kirrily said: “To me it’s not ones beliefs that define them – it’s the ACTIONS of their beliefs.”
    I will give that statement a big Amen. And you can give it a big “hell yes” kirrily. lol

  • Helen says:

    OH NO!!! it has already started. Yep with Avalo’s toilet backing up.. hope Ron doesn’t pop his head out of it. That sounds like a horror movie.

  • Jocko says:

    Yes ElohimJD has been posting away over on that other blog. Do you remember Ron’s LGD sermon? According to JD that was all about God using Satan to finalize Ron and Laura’s training as his two witnesses. (Logical explanation I guess)
    Oh, and before I forget JD has some advise for us I’ll post below.

    On Saturday, in the US and Canada please stay indoors and in an underground room if possible.
    Buy some food and water to use after the destruction and keep God in your hearts.
    On the other end of this period is the glorious reign of the Kingdom of God.
    The good news Jesus taught us is about to begin.

    Everybody got that. Jack and Avalo up there in Canada? How about everyone here in the USA? Mike, Helen, Cha-Cha, Martin, Atrocious, Mark, YYZ, J, Vision, Jack H, Daughter, Jason, Doug, Douglas, Douglas D Don D, Other Ron, Matt, exHWA, Randy, Richard, Jangster. Sorry if I missed anybody.

    As for Budgie and Kirily down under JD didn’t post any advise for you guys. (Probably too late anyway) Hope to see everyone on the other end of this thing.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Purpleacb said “Its crazy because I’m continuously checking news updates to make sure no bombs a are going off. This is going to be one heck of a ride.”

    Sometimes thought patterns have their own inertia, once you’re accustomed to thinking a certain way the tendency is to continue reacting that way even though you know it’s incorrect.

  • Helen says:

    Jocko. I am too tired to go out and stock up on food. I guess i will have to eat my poor doggies food. But I have lots of drinks.
    Ration, ration, ration. Do you happen to live close to Idaho incase I need to go out begging for food?

  • sebastian says:

    Does jocko believe this guy? No lie hes scaring me…

  • James says:

    Reading what is going on with Weinland and what he has said in the last few days, gives me the idea he does not have a clue what he will be doing Monday morning. Will he kill himself? Doubt it. He believes himself to be an important individual.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    No, jocko doesn’t believe JDElohim, he’s mocking him.

  • James, sociopaths tend not to commit suicide and psychopaths even less so.

    I suspect that he will do exactly what Herbert Armstrong did in 1975 and pretend that there is no need to explain anything — just ignore it and it will go away (I wish that worked the same way on the PKG membership).

  • sebastian says:

    O thank god i was thinking….’really?’ Well im off to bed, probavly going to wake up after 1230 tomorrow so let me know if i die. Supposed to be a nice day though up here in Massachussetts! Maybe ill wake up early and go swimming before i get hit with a nuke! Jk of cours, im posting on here at 1237 if im awake…

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Sebastian, as you are 15 you should be thinking about your Xbox and what you’re doing for the summer. You mentioned baseball, I hope that’s actual baseball that will get you outdoors and exercising a bit. Not worried about apocalyptic things.

    Some of the rest of us didn’t have a choice when we were your age, with parents subscribing to false prophets such as Herbert Armstrong pumping that nonsense at us. That’s why I do this, maybe the same for others.

  • worker says:

    People inside the church are holding out hope for the age of the end. This line of thought is going to die out very soon. If you are in a constant last 3 1/2 preparation for the end time for over four year, something has to give. Older members have held out hope for the last days for decades. Jesus Christ may comeback in our lifetime, but continuing this line of thinking after countless failed prophesies. Repent”think differently” is not defined as turning the Holy Bible into a pretzel. We should not be surprised by anything that happens today or this week. In the end, I am confident that no one is going to commit suicide. If a prison sentence is in Weinland’s near future, a round robin of sermons/mini sermons will be performed. I wonder if anyone outside of three senior elders will peach if Weinland goes to prison? At trial, it all depends on the presiding judge rules on the prosecution and plaintiff motions. The presiding judge is most likely going to rule against Weinland. Whether or not the sermon recording is admitted is of little importance. I am not sure if this case will be decided by a twelve person jury. If was on the jury, the maximum fine and jail time is in order. Wayne Matthews, Johnny Harrell, Steve D, Terry W. will not be implicated by the IRS CID. Weinland does not seem the type to take everything down with him, but I am the fearless leader who is going through a fiery trial type. Bottom line: No coming accusations for the evangelists/elders, Weinland leads from jail, and this may the final time anyone with friends or family may be able to free their relatives from this church.

  • sebastian says:

    Haha yes mike its real baseball!! I start next week for 5 days a week so itll get my mind off this stuff,!

  • And the Church of God Seventh Day drifts on year after year, living life at a wonderfully glacial pace (as if they were still a rural society) and enjoying their families.

    I’m not sure a Philidelphian “era” was supposed to be so manic (not that I believe in eras, mind you).

  • This is so much fun, fleshing out the knowledge of abnormal psychology and all….

  • martin says:

    I do wonder if Ronald Weinlad will try to spin this off as some sort of religious persecution.

    If he gets face time on national tv, will he discuss his tax evasion or will he try to talk religion?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I wish I could share your confidence that no one will suicide. I think it possible that there will be isolated incidents, but not a mass suicide.

    The trial will be with a jury. The judge has yet to rule on whether Ron can use the 2002 sermon to defend himself, I don’t know the legal ramifications. Even if the bank account was determined to be the church’s, Ron was required to file annual forms with the government.

    Perhaps Weinland’s talented legal defense team will convince the jury that the bank account was the church’s. But then there’s the matter of the allegation that Jeremy’s education and luxury car were paid for by the church. If true, that would be a problem for Ron.

    Wonder if the jury will be convinced with Ron’s explanations for Laura’s rings.

  • Richard Ball says:

    “As Mrs Weinland was silent throughout this whole debacle, she has invalidated Mr Weinland’s testimony.”

    Mrs. Weinland has yet to make a false prediction. Her track record, unlike, hubby’s, is 100%.

    Hopefully, between the two of them, one of them will say, “look, we have to do the right thing here; we have to repent publicly and give these people their money back.”

  • worker says:

    I think he would stay silent and not talk to the camera during the trial. If any media outlets wanted to interview him in prison he probably would not grant an interview, but on that remote chance I guess it would refer to religion. Yes, I absolutely agree that he views the tax evasion case as a fiery trial, demons stirred up, and religious persecution. Of course, it is about breaking the law.

  • martin says:

    Since the Beast and False Prophet, will be tossed into a lake of fire in Christ’s presence at his return….

    I wonder if the Pope’s itinerary includes Jerusalem this weekend. And if he will be tagging along or bring along any European leader.

    His current calendar is:
    26 Saturday
    Saint Peter’s Square, at 11:45
    Meeting with the “Renewal of the Spirit”

    27 – Pentecost Sunday
    Vatican Basilica, at 9:30
    PAPAL MASS
    Holy Mass

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Gavin Rumney has put Ambassador Watch blog back online for awhile. Read posts such as:
    http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2009/11/oh-audra.html
    And this comment left by Tony Wilson in December of 2006:
    http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2006/11/ronnie-warns-world.html?showComment=1166289240000#c1768042861474611757

  • In retrospect, it doesn’t look like Tony will be remembered for an accurate assessment. As Gavin said, “Yeah, right.”.

  • I had forgotten the comment I made back then:

    http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2006/11/ronnie-warns-world.html?showComment=1164497040000#c6203967373058476137

    Almost prophetic.

    But if I were to do it over, I would change my assessment from mental illness to outright fraud of a con man.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Well, it’s Sunset here in Oz….. No signs of an iminent asiatic invasion *yawn*

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Well…the party’s over, the wife and kids are asleep, and I am cleaning up the house while the cat prowls around my feet looking for scraps. It’s nearly 4 am here in Toronto, so that means its nearly 4 pm in Beijing…May 26th. The 200 MILLION man Asian Hordes only have nine hours to form and get to Megiddo in israel.

    MESSAGE TO RONALD WEINLAND; Hey Ronnie. All those months and years of “prophecy” and yet again you are proven to be a liar and a false prophet. You keep on saying you “believe” Jesus is returning on May 27th. But when you pick a damn day, it is a PROPHECY. Christians believe Jesus is their Saviour. That is a belief. Naming the EXACT date of Jesus’ return = prophecy. If that prophecy is false, you are a false prophet. Even 15 year old Sebastian can see through your lies now. How’s that feel? To have been a minister for decades AND YET be spiritually defeated by a smart teenager from New England? To have less spiritual discernment and wisdom than a high school student?! LOL!

    MESSAGE TO THE PKG: Hi folks. Yep, its me, Avalokiteshvara, the CoG:PKG-hating atheist. As you all know, I am not a fan of either you or your false prophet evangelist. BUT…as it is the Memorial Weekend in the USA, and as tomorrow is going to be a HUGE disappointment for you…tell you what…I will lay off mocking you regular PKGers. Ron is still on the radar, but I will leave you guys alone. IfI may be so bold, may I make a small request?

    As the minutes turn to hours and May 27th slides by with ZERO messiahs falling out of the sky…would you consider the FACT that we here at Mike’s blog have been saying for YEARS that Jesus was NOT going to return on may 27th, and that it turned out to be TRUE…while Ronald Weinland has been saying it for a years and he will have turned out to be FALSE? Forget about whatever mocking you perceive in us, and just focus on ONE FACT…(and yes, it WILL be a FACT tomorrow)…that Jesus DID NOT return and Ronald Weinland was WRONG?
    Wrong not because he made a simple error…but wrong because he is NOT in contact with God and does NOT have God’s truth.

    You don’t have to be an atheist or reject God or apologize to us, or be afraid of us. Just take a deep breath, and see the truth of Jesus NOT returning for what it is. Ronald Weinland is just a human being who wants attention, and has manipulated your desire to please God into power and greed that serves his desire to get attention. he has been rejected by TWO different churches, and should be rejected by a third church…YOU GUYS…

    Pray and seek God’s guidance, save your money, take a vacation, whatever…but for your own sake…consider the possibility that Jesus’ NON-RETURN tomorrow is the God of Abraham trying to warn you YET AGAIN through FAILED FALSE prophecy that Ronald Weinland has been deceiving you.

    I promise I will stop barking. mocking, and snapping at you regular PKG folks…for the moment.

    Consider that my heartfelt gift to you, the PKG

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    MESSAGE TO RONALD WEINLAND:

    As I type this right now, it is just about 8:30 PM Saturday, May 26, 2012 in Fiji (off the East coast of Australia). Only 3.5 hours until Jesus can officially NOT return, based on your false prophecies and lies. In 3.5 hours, the 24 hour countdown to the COMPLETE FAILURE of your theology begins…

    Congratulations! LOL!!

  • Mike says:

    Listen y’all…there’s one thing I want to say. I’ve seen Ronnie’s followers referred to as dupes. I have (had) a best friend who was like a brother to me join this cult after a mental breakdown. Yes, he made choices. BUT. When someone like my friend was wooed by the promise of a black-and-white clear cut lifestyle…one in which everything (or near everything) is dictated to you..splash in a healthy dose of urgency (end of the world). Well, when presented with all that in his state of mind…I feel like he was/is a victim.

    Maybe some of Ronnie’s followers are simpletons. But I gotta believe there a sizable portion who came to Ronnie’s arms b/c they had no place left to go.

    Also also, why are you folks posting mocking messages to Ron on this message board? It makes no sense. We all know this guy’s a con artist or mentally ill (most likely the former). We all despise him for what he’s done. He’s not going to read it. His followers aren’t going to read it and then forward it to him. WHY NOT REALLY STICK IT TO HIM? Can someone get his snailmail address? If he does get a prison sentence, his mailing address will be publicly available, yes? If so, I would *definitely* be down for a mocking letter writing campaign.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Mike: So mocking him in a safe, non-threatening manner is a waste to you, BUT electronically stalking him and sending him unwanted actual mail is the answer?

    YOU’RE the one with mental problems, man…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Actually, thanks for posting – “Mail Mike”. Now Mike (DDTFA) the Blog Moderator can report you to the FBI if Ron starts getting mean, unsolicited letters…

    Brilliant thinking there, dipstick…

  • Matt says:

    6 hours left!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Yes indeed, Matt! AND… a little over 2.5 hours before it’s May 27th in Fiji, and a little later, Eastern Australia.

    Uh-oh, Ronnie. Better phone your Fijian brethren and start ‘splaining to them why their weather forecast is calling for sun in the morning, scattered clouds in the afternoon, an afternoon high of 27 degrees…and zero per cent chance of ATMOSPHERE CLEAVING MESSIAHS…LOL!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    And it is now early evening, Saturday May 26th in Beijing…The Asian Hordes only have 5.5 hours left to get the 200 MILLION man army to Megiddo, 4000+ miles away.

    Uh-oh Ronnie. Better phone Beijing and tell the Chinese government to start up their engines and start loading everyone up for the big trip to Israel…and don’t forget sun block and some sandwiches…I’d say at least 500 million hotdogs and 600 million bottles of Diet Coke to wash them down with.

    (I don’t think the local officials in Beijing are going to listen to some crazy gwaylo from America telling them to go fight a magical man from outer space in Jerusalem tomorrow…just sayin’…)

  • Pope Fiction says:

    Isn’t the date change irrelevant to the fact that Weinland timed this more specifically than a day? Anyway, someone needs to alert the authorities that Jesus isn’t returning in six hours. In the last hour sirens have been blaring for the third time, which is pretty rare for this quiet little town.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Those aren’t sirens, Pope…they are angels laughing at Ronald Weinland…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    MESSAGE TO RONALD WEINLAND;

    Hey, Ron. I would just like to remind you of what you said in your ‘Final Plea’ sermon of March 12, 2011 last year…these are your EXACT words:

    “So again, some cannot wait for me to say that I am not a prophet, or to say that I am a false prophet. Indeed, no one has long to wait do they? Isn’t that amazing? May 27, 2012 is not too far away and if Europe hasn’t risen by early 2012 and if China does not begin destroying the earth before that date, then the reality would be manifest much sooner, obviously. You don’t have to wait until 2012.

    As far as the question they ask; what would I do? Well, first I’d repent before God and the Church. I’d acknowledge my sin and pray that God have mercy upon me for being so horribly presumptuous. Candidly (and some are going to really hate hearing this), I’d deeply repent of all those things that concern prophecies that I have given in the office of a prophet BUT I’d seek to hold fast to all that I believe with all my being to be true concerning the word of God. I would begin to go back through all 57 Truths (and I’d hope others would do exactly the same thing), IF… just to be open about it. I’d go back through all 57 Truths and eliminate those that are shown to be untrue, repenting as I did so; but I would hold fast to all that I believed to be true. ..”

    ARE YOU GOING TO BE TRUE TO YOUR WORD, OR ARE YOU GOING TO BE A LIAR?

    We’ll find out on May 28th…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    As I type this very sentence it is just about 11: 20 pm Saturday, May 26, 2012 in Fiji. In 40 minutes, Ron’s prophecy that the Asian Hordes will rise BEFORE May 27th will be PROVEN to be FALSE, and HE HAS PROMISED TO REPENT. You PKGers have HEARD him say it, READ it in the sermon transcripts, and READ it here on this very blog.

    In 40 minutes Ron…YOU OWE THE PKG AND GOD AN APOLOGY, AND ADMITTANCE OF FALSE PROPHECY, AS DICTATED BY YOUR VERY OWN WORDS…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    22 minutes to Weinland’s COMPLETE PROPHETIC FAILURE re: Asian Hordes…

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Matt: Rotten Ronnie’s ego is such that he DOES read this blog.

    Hey Ronnie!!!

    Night night all, from the land down under…. We are still here 🙂

  • sebastian says:

    Maybe Ron will say the recent ‘massacre’ in Syria and Yemenis the asian hordes and the Mexican brush fire destroyed vegetation….nobody light off a fire cracker, it could sound like WWIII! Well Ron, back to sleep for me, im either going to wake up in 5hrs or be destroyed by a ‘nuklar’ attack…

    4 hours

    Time isnt on your side…

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Camping had this idea that last year’s rapture on May 21 was going to come off time zone by time zone. We know how that turned out.

    Ronnie doesn’t say the same. The return will happen simultaneously for everyone, at 7:36 PM in Jerusalem, and 12:36 PM Eastern. About 4 and 3/4 hours from the posting of this comment.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    It is NOW Sunday May 27th in Fiji…that means RONALD WEINLAND’S PROPHECY HAS FAILED. But it is still May 26th in other places in the world, so China is now officially running out of countries to destroy BEFORE the 27th, hour by hour. So Fiji is now off the list. In three hours both Tokyo, Japan and Sydney, Australia will be off the list.

    Better hurry up there, China. You have to both start destroying the Earth and sending 200 MILLION men on horseback to Israel to fight Jesus when he returns to Jerusalem in FOUR HOURS…

    MESSAGE TO RONALD WEINLAND: Your March 12. 2011 Sermon stands…REPENT…

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Avalo, read my prior comment.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    OK. So China has 4+ hours to get ready to instantly transport 200 million men (via the power of Satan) immediately to Megiddo to fight Jesus precisely when he returns…even better! I like your accuracy Mike! Your studiousness greater illustrates the ludicrous nature of Ronald Weinland’s theology…

    Mike (DDTFA) = WIN
    Ronald Weinland = FAIL

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    To the other Mike who commented earlier: I sympathize with your situation having a friend in PKG. I myself don’t mock PKG members so much, but focus more on Weinland himself. As far as how to communicate to Weinland, you might be surprised at who reads my blog.

    Snail mail is not the answer. And has been pointed out, is stalkerish. I’ve had Weinland’s physical address for 4 years now and published a picture of his house. But I’m not publishing his address because there are those who are justifiably angry with him and would let them drive too far.

    There are some who find it valuable to mock here. People affected directly or indirectly by Weinland. Or by similar monsters such as Herbert Armstrong.

  • Budgie smugglers says:

    Hey Guys, anyone heard a trumpet, or a thunder yet ?, I thought we’re supposed to hear trumpets ? before the big Kahoona ? geez, havent even heard a squeek yet ? and the only thunder I heard was when the guy next door farted, while he was weeding his garden…………….. wow. what a rip-off ! wonder If anyone else who knows Ron- propeller cap, is going to make a plea to us tonight / today ? Hang-on ?, I did see some chinese folks at the market today, but they were buy’in vegetables……..not chuck’n grenades at us ! Phew, ( Pete wipes brow ), Ron got it SOOOOOO wrong, Ok, tomorrows’ another day…….but, doubt it ?

  • jack635 says:

    So here we are. May 26th 2012. Mike has provided us with 12:36 PM EST as the sunset in Jerusalem, therefore return of Jesus according to Ronald Weinland who said he is God’s most formidable prophet of all time. LESS than four hours to go. There are going to be some people who are going to have a false climax in their house. Then the big letdown. The finger pointing. The old “it was YOUR faith that was not strong enough, not mine”. Then the realisation “we were wrong in our thinking”. Then the depression and anger.

    Hmmm. It’s stuff like that, that makes me wonder if Ron is really part of the organised Atheist movement. Nah! He’s just another swampland selling con artist.

    But could he really be a deluded religious type? 1% says yes.

    The other 99% of me says he is a con artist, and he’s already entered retirement.

    One thing I knnow for sure, Jesus is not coming back today or tomorrow. The Bible says it will be a big surprise. So how the hell could ANYBODY know the date of the big surprise? It wouldn’t be a surprise then, would it?

  • Don D says:

    Hey Jocko!

    Thanks for including me in your greetings list. But you got me in the wrong category! I’m in the small but feisty Down Under section along with Budgie and Kirrily!

    Never mind, like Ron Weinland, you will be able to repent at leisure. On second thoughts YOU might have enough leisure for repenting, but Ronnie will soon be preoccupied with such things as Courts, and trials, and prosecutors, out of which may materialise a New World. Yes, a New World in which he may be obliged to rePENt in the PENitentiary. So… Here’s to the dawning of a NEW WORLD!

  • Don D says:

    It’s now one minute past midnight on the morning of Saturday 27th May 2012 in Australia.

    ALL IS QUIET DOWNUNDER

  • Don D says:

    I meant, of course: “on the morning of SUNDAY 27th May 2012 in Australia”!!

  • martin says:

    7:33pm Saturday (IDT) – Time in Jerusalem, Israel

    Sunset time in Jerusalem is 7:36pm

  • martin says:

    Did the end of the world start yet?

  • "Mail" Mike says:

    Avalo, go f__ yourself. Seriously…go f___ yourself. Do I actually plan on doing that? Of course not! I HAVE WITNESSED FIRST HAND WHAT THIS SICK F___, WEINLAND, DOES TO PEOPLE. HAVE YOU?? I lived w/my friend during his transformation. I saw him filling milk jugs w/tap water and stockpiling canned food (in 2008!!!!)

    Oh..that’s right. You’re just some random internet commenter who feels f___ing awesome that they’re anonymously sticking it to yet another in a long line of charlatans throughout history. Bet that makes you feel strong, doesn’t it?

    Seriously. Go f___ yourself.

  • CMR says:

    Good Job, don’t these guys ever quit

  • Budgie Smugglers says:

    Mail Mike ? Is that you ? Hahahahahaha 😀 , “Ron Weinland False Prophet ” , created himself through failure ? just like if Mr. Magoo , suddenly proclaimed he was Superman ! 😀