WWIII: THE STAGE IS BEING SET (unless it isn’t)
Jocko left a comment as follows:
Here we go again. Extra work for Mike this weekend. Not only does he have to listen to tomorrow’s sermon and write a review he’ll also need to write a review of the new post on Ron’s personal website.
Interesting post Ron left this time around. After re-cementing the fact that COG-PKG holds fast to their belief that the date of May 27th is Christ’s return Ron goes on to say that “even if we were wrong the signs are all around that this world is rapidly changing for the worst, shifting quickly before our very eyes, and that very troublous times are right in front of us”.
Ron also refers his readers to two Youtube videos which I haven’t taken a look at yet. Perhaps I’ll watch them over the weekend if I have nothing better to do.
Okay Mike, go and get him. Looking forward to reading your reviews.
I will let my commentary be these verses from Matthew 24:
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
As usual False Prophet Ronald Weinland’s post is repeated below for your convenience and comments.
And I have this question: When reading Ron’s post, which of these signs from Matthew 24 are in evidence?
————- Weinland’s Post ———
Around the world the stage is being set for its collapse, which is almost upon us. Over three years ago, the process began that is leading this world into a complete global meltdown, ending in a final world war. In 2008, the world was shaken for a time at the prospect of a worldwide economic collapse.
But just as mankind has responded to God’s warnings for the past 6,000 years, this final age of man’s self-rule has proven to be the same. God has been ignored, and mankind has once again gone about seeking to remedy his own problems his own ways, but this time is man’s last time to respond to God in arrogance and pride. In this final time, God is allowing mankind to temporarily experience a false sense of hope and belief that he can solve his own problems and that life will once again “get back on track.” Not so this time!
The hype in the stock market and false confidence in the power of the U.S. dollar is the epitome of man’s pride. This period of pride is marked by a willing blindness of the truth. The signs of what is coming are being ignored. It is as Jesus Christ said at his first coming:
The Pharisees along with the Sadducees came seeking proof and asked of him [seeking proof that he was whom it was being claimed] that he would show them a sign from heaven. He answered and said to them, “When it is evening and the sky is red, you say that it will be fair weather. And in the morning it will be foul weather today when the sky is red and gloomy. Oh hypocrites, for you can discern the face of the sky, but you will not discern [refuse to discern or judge] the signs of the times” (Matthew 16:1-3).
Willing Ignorance and a Blind Eye:
Although we (Church of God – PKG) hold fast to the conviction that Jesus Christ is returning as King of kings on May 27th of this year, it is understood that others fully disbelieve that such is possible in only a short time. Even if we were wrong, the “signs” are all around that this world is changing rapidly for the worse, shifting quickly before our very eyes, and that very troublous times are right in front of us. Ignoring the “signs” will not make such trouble go away. The false euphoria of choosing to believe that life is improving will only be a temporary experience and will only produce a far greater traumatic crash at the end.
Such exaggerated wishful thinking will only lead to a more painful reality once a complete global implosion strikes. The United States has already gone the way of Great Britain after WWII, but it will not address such a truth. Yes, the final prophesied collapse is at the door. At one time it was years away, then months, and now only weeks away.
Great effort is being exerted to ignore reality and to instead trust in a false belief about the true economic condition of the United States. Such false hope is about to be dashed to pieces. The truth is so plain, but willing blindness and pride is so great that simplicity cannot be heard. There is a link to a video that fully reflects the foolishness of ignoring basic truth concerning the current economic system of the U.S., and the world is beginning to mock the inevitability of its outcome. The video entitled, “Debt Limit – A Guide to American Federal Debt Made Easy,” is well worth viewing.
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0no7O9zmE&feature=player_embedded#! )
The dollar is rapidly going the way of ancient Rome, yet the denarius and aurous were at least made of silver and gold. The world reserve currency is shifting rapidly. China and Russia have begun to drop the dollar in bilateral trade. Even China (world’s second largest economy) and Japan (world’s third largest economy) have entered into agreements to bypass the dollar and engage in direct currency trade. China and Iran have now agreed to bypass the dollar and barter in oil. India and Japan have agreed to begin swapping in their own currencies. It is reported that Iran and Russia are replacing the dollar with the rial and ruble in trade. Then last week, it was reported that Iran and India have agreed to settle their annual oil trade in rupees.
It was stated rather poignantly by one American financial reporting agency about these trends: “But yes… the dollar still is the reserve currency… if only in which to make calculations of how many imaginary money one pays in exchange for imaginary ‘developed world’ collateral.”
The petrodollar bears its name for great reason and today its continued power and existence is being threatened on the world scene. Is it possibly true that some would like to see an escalation in tension with Iran that would actually trigger a war? It is this region of the world that prophecies concerning the king of the south and the king of the north become instrumental in bringing the world together in a third world war. That war is now very near! And who are the great players on the board that bring this to a final conflict? Who should you be watching? As she sleeps, the U.S. is about to lose its place as a major player, and Europe, Iran, China, Russia, and Israel will step in as the major players.
Europe Is Rising:
The European Union is being pushed to the edge, and as a result, it is about to make a great shift in its direction and emerge in a new form. The 7th revival of the Holy Roman Empire is about to come on the world scene. After it has come together for a time, it will not be long before the Fifth Trumpet of Revelation sounds and great devastation follows.
For over sixty years, God’s Church has been warning the world about this final power that will come upon the world in the form of ten unified nations in Europe. The stage is being set and it is getting close to the time for the curtain to be raised. Just today, a headline from the EU Observer (EUobserver.com) reads: “Nine EU countries form splinter group on financial tax.” It states, “A group of nine euro-countries led by France and Germany on Tuesday asked the Danish EU presidency to fast-track plans for a financial transactions tax – a move indicating they will forge ahead on their own in the absence of an EU-wide consensus.”
The final ten that emerge may be somewhat different and include other countries, or it may include these same nine countries. If it is these nine, there will already be ten, as the Vatican is considered a country, and it is most definitely part of this final resurrection of the Holy Roman Empire. How close do you think it might be? How quickly can it come on the world scene? This may be it!
Some Europeans and especially Germans do not respond well when pushed to the brink. Those who have the greatest stake in the euro are rapidly pushing for big change in order to survive. Their troubles are spiraling out of control as reports continue to flood in concerning the dire conditions that only mount with intensity.
Spain’s finance minister admitted last week that their unemployment rate has now jumped to 24 percent. Another report today states that the German debt-collecting group, Creditreform, has noted that 175,000 businesses went bust in western Europe last year, threatening 1.5 million jobs. The number is up 7% on 2010, but individual countries, such as Greece (27%), Spain (19%), Italy (17%) and Portugal (17%), saw a steeper increase due to the crisis.
Blatant Stupidity to Dismiss Islamic Beliefs:
There is no other word to better describe the West’s attitude toward Iran than that of “stupidity.” To ignore or minimize the determination, belief, and capability of Iranian leaders, both governmental and religious, is one of the greatest acts of foolishness that any world leader can make. The motivation of Iranian leaders is far different from most who have ruled throughout the Islamic countries of the Middle East. Leaders like Hosni Mubarak or current military leaders of Egypt, Saddam Hussein or Nuri al-Maliki of Iraq, Bashar al-Assad of Syria, King Abdullah II of Jordan, the former Muammar Gaddafi of Libya, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, Recep Erdogan of Turkey, and the many others that we could name, all have or have had vastly different motivations in leadership from that of Iran’s.
The primary motivation and zealous focus of Iranian leaders is squarely based upon their fervent Islamic Shiite belief in the coming of the prophesied 12th Imam Mahdi who will usher in Armageddon. Their belief is that the destruction of Israel will trigger “the coming” of the last Islamic Messiah. They believe that they are the ones who will fulfill Allah’s will to aid and help in the fulfillment of these end-time events.
Rather than explaining about continuing escalation of tensions in this region and the depth of their religious convictions that fuel these tensions, I am going to recommend another video that helps to explain their beliefs from their own perspective. This will help readers to better grasp the true seriousness behind the rhetoric of these leaders and why such rhetoric should not be dismissed so flippantly as so many are doing.
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WwiadYT-N9k#! )
The signs are everywhere, but few are willing to discern them.
—- end of Weinland’s post ——
I think a few may be willing to discern Weinland’s signs and discuss them below. And if you have trouble, go back and read Matthew 25 verses 5, 23, and 24.
“Even if we were wrong, the “signs” are all around
There’s his out. Even if Christ does not return, the SIGNS were still there, so the error falls on God and Christ, not Ron. It’s not Ron’s fault if God kept telling him it would happen on May 27 when it doesn’t happen because God provided Ron with so much ‘proof’.
How close do you think it might be? How quickly can it come on the world scene? This may be it!
Another out. He has placed an out on his May 27th date (the first quote), and this second out means Europe doesn’t have to come to power. It just could happen relatively soon. We’re already IN the end, supposedly.
One might think he is continuously raising his stakes, but he’s only lowering them. I can go on a giant rant about something crazy like secret death camps, secret underground cities, shadow government and the Illuminati, and claim it with authority. But then I would finish it up with “this might happen”, and voila, I’m no longer accountable for anything I said.
I prophecy that Ron will read more “news” to the faithful tomorrow.
Babble on Ron.
“The European Union is being pushed to the edge, and as a result, it is about to make a great shift in its direction and emerge in a new form. The 7th revival of the Holy Roman Empire is about to come on the world scene. After it has come together for a time, it will not be long before the Fifth Trumpet of Revelation sounds and great devastation follows.”
So…5 comes after 1 now? What happened to 2,3,4….Yeah. I know. I am “blind” and do not “see”.
“Even if we were wrong, the “signs” are all around…” Huh? how can he say that to people with a straight face? Oh of COURSE he will add, “…but of course I have NO doubt WHATSOEVER!!” yeah. we’ll go with that.
Ron said: “The signs are everywhere, but few are willing to discern them.” He’s right. The signs that he is a false prophet are everywhere and few (us) are WILLING to discern them…
Water is seeping in through the cracks now, Ron. The lifeboats are ready, PKG brethren. Will you be wise enough to get in them when the time comes?
Well… the time is NOW…
Ronald Weinland is skilled at speaking out both sides of his mouth, when he says one thing (May 27th is the Second Coming), then says another thing (even if we are wrong…)
He looks like a lamb but speaks with a forked tongue like a dragon.
Hmmmm………..isn’t that indicative of something(?)
YES!! “WWIII is coming…because things are happening in a powerful that is truly awesome…Europe is undergoing some things that are truly astounding, and I am dumbfounded at what God is giving us to understand…”. I love how Ron says nothing and makes it sound like he just said something really powerful!!LOL!!
Imagine if I talked that way about my wife!
Me:”Baby, you are truly exceptional in a very powerful way in regards to excellence, and I am utterly amazed at how incredible this is…”.
her: “Huhh?”
This guy sounds like a very confident prophet.
Same ole, same ole. Herbert Armstrong said the same thing time after time, year after year….”the time is near! The end is near!” This is gonna happen, that is gonna happen, yadda yadda yadda. If it doesn’t happen on May 27th (which it won’t) then he’ll say, it’ll happen soon. Just you wait! But be ready! Oh, and don’t forget to give me your money.
Fear, fear, fear. Always using fear to keep his people in line. Peoples, shed the fear. Save your money. Leave this charlatan. He talks about stupidity…he’s the stupid one.
There is one sign that RW should recognize, but he keeps ignoring it:
STOP!
“Great effort is being exerted to ignore reality and to instead trust in a false belief”.
Truer words were never spoken.
Looks like Theological Bob has picked up on Ron’s latest post. He probably found out about it by reading Mike’s website. In his post Theo Bob mentions Ron’s March 12, 2011 “If I’m Not A Prophet” sermon and he even posted a few paragraphs from it.
Now that sermon and it’s contents were dead and buried until Avalo and Mike resurrected it last month. Not a prophet isn’t even the name of the sermon so my guess is Theo Bob picked up on it by reading the posts right here on Mike’s site. Got to give the credit where it’s due.
Thielogical Bob obviously lifted the quote for the sermon from this website as his article has the same text bolded that I applied. But he’s still quoting Weinland and properly attributing it.
False Prophet James Malm, on the other hand, has stolen my words and passed them off as his own. As well as stealing words even more often from another website. Probably is OK because we’re not zealous for following God’s word the way he is.
Uh-oh. Malm and Theil-ogical Bob are stirred up! They are warning us of Armageddon, and each other, and Weinland, and prophecy! They are hopping up and down on the ‘Net like hyperactive kids at a Skittles party!
Prophecy!! Weeks!! Europe!! The US Dollar!!! Syria! I-RAAAN!!!
…Meanwhile in Atheism-ville it is a nice, sunny day with a light wind and scattered clouds.
Speaking of Thiel and Weinland, let;s have another peek at Rotten Ronnie’s little nugget on MARCH 12,2011 entitled “A Final Plea, with Judgment-Pt.1″:
“So, if I’m not a prophet I’ll reason with you accordingly and be open with you about it…So often for those who do not believe that I’m a prophet, the question is asked, “What will you do if these things do not come to pass?” And I’m going to answer that more fully in this particular sermon today…So again, some cannot wait for me to say that I am not a prophet, or to say that I am a false prophet. Indeed, no one has long to wait do they? Isn’t that amazing? May 27, 2012 is not too far away and if Europe hasn’t risen by early 2012 and if China does not begin destroying the earth before that date, then the reality would be manifest much sooner, obviously. You don’t have to wait until 2012.
“You don’t have to wait until 2012″ as China will begin destroying the Earth BEFORE then.
IT IS 2012, RON. YOU SAID YOU WOULD REASON WITH US ACCORDINGLY, AND YOU HAVEN’T.
YOU ARE A LIAR AND A FALE PROPHET!!!!!!!!!!
Do you mean to tell us there is another false prophet around that we don’t know about?
After you mentioned Theological Bob a few times I became curious so I searched him out. He wasn’t hard to find and I now check out his site every once in a while.
I’ll tell you Mike I find a lot of interesting reads on your original site. Just last night I was reading Kirrily’s rebuking of “God’s Final Witness”. Even though I had already read Kirrily’s article I did so again and I followed it up by reading some other posts from Summer 2009.
It puts things in an entirely different prospective now being thee years after the fact but Ron is still spewing the same old garbage out of his mouth. I have to wonder where some of those bloggers like “Weinland Observer” and “Observer” are today. Are they still hanging on three years later or have they moved on. For both their sake I hope it’s the latter.
Work and play is done for the day, and I’ve added my commentary. Maybe someone will point out which verse I missed that applies to Ron’s posting.
I think maybe Weinland Observer’s parents found out about his spiritual idolatry and made him think differently. I think he went back to being regular teen (if there is such a thing).
I expect that Observer (seems to be woman in her 40′s) is still drinking the Flavor Aid.
Good night Mike. Hope you have a good night’s sleep. Wonder what Ronnie will have to say for himself later today. Should be interesting to say the least.
For all those heading to Denver for today’s services you better watch where you sit. Don’t want to end up sitting on Ron’s bad side now do you. Come to think of it, I wonder which side that is????
Just one side, you think?
“Europe is rising”? Well it’s going to be a rather lack-luster rise as it’s getting off to such a very late start. In fact I still can’t see the rising, no military provocation, no mustering of new recruits, no belicose calls for war, no hate & mobs in the streets tearing down governments, the Pacacy is complacent….
Where is China in all this? As Alvo points out, it’s 2012 and no China uprising… nothing. China has no rising military, no military provocation, no mustering of new recruites, no beilicose callse for war, not hate & mobs in the streets tearing down governmnets, there government in complacent…
200 million? Where? march to the middle east from China? In 3-1/2 months, perposterous!
And where is Trumpter #1? Any ones grass all dead and 1/3 of the trees? Anyone? Anywhere? Rons busy discussing Trumpet #5 and #1 has not even blown… With 3-1/2 months remaining the 3 years and 1-1/2 months of the “Great Tribulation” was rather lax was it not?
I’m less interested in when Ron will admit failure, even though its fun to watch the contest. I’m more interested in what the explanation will be. Maybe a contest on that?
Jocko,
I finally got so fed up with Booby Thiel, and in light of the fact no one seems to have taken him on, I went about to set up a daily blog to go head to head with his nonsense. You can find it at:
http://tscult.com/wordpress/
Since there is a dull empty-headed dullness to his self-righteous sychophantic support of False Prophet Roderick Meredith, I branched out a bit and take swipes at the entire ACoG venue, but I continue to call Booby on the carpet, particularly for his perverse love affair with his Beast of Revelation nominee, Baron Karl zu Guttenberg.
And, not unlike this blog here, I am totally ignored as being irrelevant to the principle being mocked: The scoundrels will do just fine and can ignore any sort of factual criticism that comes their way without one whit of damage to them… at least that’s how they see it.
My opinion is that the ACoGs are going downhill faster than ever this year and if RW is convicted, it will have a very high impact on the rest of the “community”.
The good news is that they seem to be tearing each other apart, what with Booby’s postings on Weinland, Pack and Flurry and the CoGWA take away from UCG.
It’s great fun everywhere you look these days.
Yeah I get these daily newsletters from cogwriter,..I was going to cancel it along time ago but.. what the heck! That’s all these guys do is look for any bad news they can find and point it to “prophesy”. Anyhow this must be what you all are talking about:
http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/cg-pkg-ronald-weinland-writes-but-still-is-wrong/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ChurchOfGodNews+%28Church+of+God+News+from+www.cogwriter.com%2Fnews%2F%29
he can’t be wrong, god is given him this knowlegde. lol what are this people going to do that cashed their 401k’s and stocks and spended them all. this nut makes me sick. he didn’t tell them ( i might be wrong ) he told them it was going to happen!
YYZ, yes, the link is valid, but you know, Booby shouldn’t have put the Bible vs the RW 2008 book, he should have put “2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect” vs the RW 2008 book there.
Keep it a level playing field, I say.
Or better yet, the Bible Vs “2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect”.
We want to see Booby Thiel comment on how wrong the LCG is and leave the PKG to us right here.
I agree Douglas and when it comes down to it after reading his newsletters for the past year, thats all Thiel is doing, promoting his book.
I love watching those guys go after each other. It is like watching children fight over an unopened box of chocolates you know is empty!!
Actually, Thiel needs to rip on Weinland in order to get some attention for his own misguided work. Thiel and Weinland go together like…oh, let’s say…a baby monkey and a baby pig!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-cMub_WlMc
WHAT…THE…HECK…!!!?
Ron says at 5 minutes and 50 seconds into the sermon that “The Fifth Trumpet hasn’t yet happened”. Yet last he said that Satan falling was that Trumpet and it already happened, so this doesn’t apply to now! He then goes on to say that Rev. 17 is connected and the Fifth Trumpet is connected to Babylon, and then how all of this is all abut the peace that God will bring!
HE JUST CHANGED A PROPHECY FROM LAST. F**KING. WEEK!!!
There is something significantly wrong with Ronald Weinland. That kind of inconsistency is not normal.
MESSAGE TO RONALD WEINLAND:
If the Fifth Trumpet hasn’t happened yet, then you have just ADMITTED that you are a FALSE PROPHET, based on both what you said LAST WEEK and March 12th, 2011. We have YOUR OWN audio and written PROOF of that.
MARCH 12,2011 entitled “A Final Plea, with Judgment-Pt.1″:
“So, if I’m not a prophet I’ll reason with you accordingly and be open with you about it…So often for those who do not believe that I’m a prophet, the question is asked, “What will you do if these things do not come to pass?” And I’m going to answer that more fully in this particular sermon today…So again, some cannot wait for me to say that I am not a prophet, or to say that I am a false prophet. Indeed, no one has long to wait do they? Isn’t that amazing? May 27, 2012 is not too far away and if Europe hasn’t risen by early 2012 and if China does not begin destroying the earth before that date, then the reality would be manifest much sooner, obviously. You don’t have to wait until 2012.”
YOU ARE A CHARLATAN, A FALSE P[ROPHET, AND A LIAR….
(a secret message to Ronald Weinland)
Hi, Ron. You know who I am, and you know I am an atheist. You and I both know God doesn’t exist and that is why you have nothing to fear from God, and your lies are going to continue to work because the people you are conning really want to believe what you say. As long as you stroke their egos you will have a congregation, and you and I both know it. You know, deep down, a part of me thinks what you are doing is existentially funny. My hate for you is only eclipsed by my deep frustration with your victims for desperately wanting to be destroyed by you. This is how cynicism and hopelessness is born, Ron. And today is the day I officially have given up on your flock. I can’t help those who don’t want to be helped.
Consider this my last message to you. You win, and I openly admit I failed to defeat you. There is no hope for them now, and May 27th will be a great victory for you when Jesus doesn’t return and YET your victims will still show up for the Sabbath the week after. I have better things to do with my time than grieve for their souls, so congratulations…you have beaten one of your “mockers”…and to the PKG brethren reading this…good luck with your impending emotional and financial destruction…you were warned…
On Saturday Ron announced his travel itinerary for the next few weeks but put a hold on Cincinnati. He could only confirm the dates up to March 7th in Spokane.
He advised the faithful not to get tickets or make travel plans until they know more about the dates in March.
I wonder why Ron doesn’t want any sheeple in the Cincy area during the second week of March? Could it be that a certain someone has a pre-trial hearing date in federal court set for March 12th?
…it is finished…
Avalokiteshvara says: There is something significantly wrong with Ronald Weinland. That kind of inconsistency is not normal.
This is indicative of his mental state…which is confused and unstable.
The 5th Trumpet are the Asian hordes.
No the 5th Trumpet hasn’t happened yet
No, wait, the 5th Trumpet happened a long time ago
The 5th Trumpet is Satan falling.
We are in the time of the 5th Trumpet.
Wait…we are NOT in the time of the 5th Trumpet
I pity the poor PKGer that has to keep track of this swill.
Avalo, Ronald Weinland hasn’t beaten you or won anything. Many years ago you went up against a much more powerful foe and emerged victorious. Even if just one single person was discouraged from joining PKG because of a post they’ve read here on Mike’s blog we’ve all won. The truth will always win and can never be beaten.
I take a little different viewpoint. I started out back in 2008 criticizing and mocking Weinland, but then realized that he is having real effects on people. If my blogging has helped ease the transition for an exiting member, if it has helped a bewildered family member understand what their loved one get sucked into, if it has helped divert one potential convert, then it was worth my effort. If I made it about defeating Weinland I would have given up long ago because I don’t think it’s possible. That his followers are deceived is on them, they have chosen to be so. Ron is giving them their money’s worth.
Avalo, I agree with Jocko 100%. Truth will always win in the end. And you are a person who has often indicated your love and concern for others who comment on this blog, and many of whom have been or are victims of armstrongism. You are honest and caring, just the opposite to RW. Your presence on this amazing blog of Mike’s is surely appreciated by all who love truth and love the downtrodden and vulnerable of this world. As an Aussie would say, “Good on you, mate!”
Ron’s latest sermon is one heck of a hum-dinger He reassured the sheeple that millions are going to be called. He also said by the time Europe does what it does and China and Russia do what they do “two people” could already be dead.
Three and a half days. It doesn’t take long for nucklear weapons to go off and do what they’re going to do. So the tribulation/world war three is now compressed into three and a half days and Ron and Laura won’t even be around to see it?
There’s lots more to come so please stay tuned to this station for Mike’s review. I guarantee you won’t be disappointed.
Mike, I totally agree with your viewpoint. I know your blog has helped people from all walks of life under many different circumstances.
I truly believe your blog has helped a lot more people than you’re aware. If I met you in person I would be proud to shake your hand.
Randy said: “he didn’t tell them ( i might be wrong ) he told them it was going to happen!”
Exactly…he plays word games allllllllll the time to mess with peoples heads
Ronnie said ” Even if we were wrong, the “signs” are all around that this world is changing rapidly for the worse”
No surprise there…tryin to dig himself out of yet another hole and mentally prepare his people for he non return of christ….incrementalism to the subconcious works every time…i remember reading an analogy a long time ago about how people are so easily controlled/manipulated…somethin along the lines of….
“if you put a frog in boiling water, he will jump straight out, but if you put him in cold water and slowly continue to heat the water til it gradually reached boiling point, the frog will stay in there and be cooked alive not realising his fate”
Avalo, I share your frustration.
Back in 2005, when our project team was conducting its war against Wade Cox, I really thought he had won, and then…
His ccg imploded, the members left en masse.
It was extremely difficult and expensive in more ways than just money, there was a clear win and things for him have not been the same since, even with the 7 years past he’s been stalking me because “I destroyed his church”. He even threatened to kill me by sending men from Australia to the United States. He took down my websites until I found a web host who wouldn’t knuckle under and laughed at him. He still has lawyers send threatening letters. I guess he hasn’t figured out he is a loser and it’s really his fault he’s a loser.
So here we are on the eve of RW’s fall. Those who endure to the end shall be saved… embarassment and will be validated.
Con men come and go.
One way or another, one of these days, RW will be taking an exit stage left.
It’s worth it to stick around to see how it turns out.
It should be fun.
So Ron said, “Even if we were wrong…” he will bring this back and say he didn’t say “ARE”…meaning that, by saying “were” he was referring to the PAST predictions of doom etc. So he never said he IS wrong.
Another out for ya ronnie. Run with it!