The End of Tyranny

False Prophet Ronald Weinland visited in Richmond, VA yesterday.  He gave his upcoming schedule adding February 18 in Toronto.  I wonder how it is that he is going to be able to travel there with his passport surrendered to the US Probation office.  He also mentioned that the location of the elders conference last weekend was in Vegas, location hidden so the rank-and-file sheep could not drop in.  The hotel he mentioned was The Palazzo, another 5-diamond hotel next door to the Venetian with shuttles provided.

During the elders conference, Ron announced that people who divorced now would not be allowed to remarry before the “new age” as the time is too short. These people will be in the ministry and government during the “new age” but are not competent to run their own lives. Time is also too short for the 2700 “scattered” to be ordained as Ron has added so much to Armstrongism that they wouldn’t be able to wrap their heads around it.  (The “scattered” are former members of WCG who were baptized in that organization when the First Seal opened at Joe Tkach’s sermon in Atlanta 17 years and 1 week ago.)  So the several hundred elders that Ron has now will have to tough it out to ordain the 10 million people in the US who will join Ron’s church between now and May 27.

Ron doesn’t know what next week’s sermon will be, but has plans for the sermon of Jan 7.  Jan 7 is the end of the 6th of Ron’s 140-day “half-a-time”, each of which he likens to one day of the Israel marching around Jericho.  Perhaps he will explain away the 40 weeks of judgment on the US and other modern day nations of Israel which ends that day.  According to his blog posting of April 1, we’ll be able to relax as God’s judgment will then be focused on the other (gentile) nations.  In the meantime, Ron is amazed at the timing of the calendar this year that puts December 17 on the same day of the week as it was in 1994.

Except that we need to worry about the 5 months of torment which are to happen after the fifth trumpet.  Since tomorrow is exactly 5 months from the non-return of Christ by the Roman calendar.  Taking into account that a “prophetic month” is 30 days, Ron buys a delay until Thursday if you don’t leave any time for the 6th trumpet.  During the feast of 2010, Ron said that 5 months could be the last part of the 1st month and the first part of the 5th month with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in between.  Since Ron’s trial is delayed from January 31st, kind of takes the IRS situation out of the picture.  But Ron has painted a picture that the 5 months of torment was to be administered by the beast power, consisting of 10 European nations led by Germany and the Pope.  The beast power has some serious organizing to do very quickly.

Ron’s sermon was titled “End of Tyranny” (part 1).  The spirit world is stirred up mightily.  Demented attacks are coming from snakes in the grass.  Which includes: unconverted coworkers and family members, mocking websites, and while not mentioned of course the IRS and US prosecutor. It seems that I will have committed the unpardonable sin because I won’t repent and acknowledge Ron as a true prophet of God.

Ron learned a new word “throe”, as in “death throe”, and how to properly spell it (not “throw”).  Despite Ron’s literacy issues, he is an expert at anthropology and knows that the Germans are actually the Assyrians.

Ron, if you really want to end tyranny, then you can help. You asked if your members were experiencing the “oppression of tyranny”.  Indeed they are, and you are the source. End the tyranny you have imposed on your deluded followers.  Admit that you’re making it all up as you go along, at the expense of your deluded followers and their life savings and family relationships.  Set your people free so that they can salvage whatever they can of their lives.

Ron’s sermon was mercifully brought short a half hour early by some sort of technical glitch.  Hopefully his ministry will be mercifully brought short by some sort of glitch, such as being a guest in Club Fed for a period of time.

82 Comments

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Trust me folks. The Germans are NOT the Assyrians. I would know…

    And I am very “impressed” with how Ron has described marriage/divorce counselling. He doesn’t want to get “bogged down” in that while preparing for the non-return of Christ in May. What minister /pastor general describes what is a rather serious spiritual issue for people as getting “bogged down”? Ron sees ministering to his flock as a waste of time, thus he creates a “commandment” to get out of his duty to counsel and lead/encourage the others to counsel and lead.

    Yeah, just like Jesus would say: “Don;t ask me questions, because I am too busy…”

  • Jocko says:

    Ron sure does have a way with words, doesn’t he Avalo. Say Mike, What is the ENC? Ron said the first sin city ministerial meeting had just been put on the ENC. He then encouraged the membership to listen to it.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    That’s “EMC”. As in “Elder’s Management Console”. Some kind of share site for Ron’s tame elders.

  • jack635 says:

    Set your people free so that they can salvage whatever they can of their lives.

    Sorry Mike. Ron is a con artist and most real con artists are sociopaths. A sociopath cannot feel empathy. Ronald Weinland is selfishness personified.

    I wonder what he bought Laura for Christmas. I bet it was expensive.

    Hey Laura, is it Merry Christmas or “Happy Diamonds” Chopard style?

  • Jocko says:

    Thanks Mike.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Mike, is this what Ron said in his sermon yesterday? “The spirit world is stirred up mightily. Demented attacks are coming from snakes in the grass. WHICH INCLUEDS: unconverted coworkers and FAMILY members, mocking websites,”

    I think I know one of the websites he is talking about, hmmm and the mockers, BUT CUZ RANDY, with family, are we included in that?
    I will tell you one thing. If someone preached that to me on my family, they would have their head shoved up their butt. Not kidding one bit. I know that is lady like to say, but tempers flare when I hear that crap.

    Shame on the ones in the cult who would listen to such garbage, and not care what the evil one says about their family.

    Ron is getting what he deserves and his family to see what their parents really are. I just pray he goes to jail, then let them know who is suffering now. It is not the mockers or website..

    Shame on those who would listen to such trash from the evil one on their families. I am so disappointed that family would still stay in the cult after hearing that. That must include their grandkids too? If so Run certain relative, run.. Please.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen: They can’t run. They were given a special job to baptize millions of people before Christ returns. They are part of a great (imaginary) commission and must stay the course and tithe to Ron so he can afford the court fees thanks to them. They must not waste their time dating and marrying, they must do what Ron says because this ENTIRE mess started with God whispering in Ron’s ear that he was the End Time Witness. This entire church is based on the premise that God speaks to Ron.

    Christ’s non-return on May 27th, 2012 is going to be SWEET!

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Avalo: The only words Ron hears is “money, money, money”.. And about telling people not to marry!! His ego I thought couldn’t get any bigger.. They will have to have a special jail cell for his big bald head.
    I thought the other day how cool would it be when or if Ron the bi–h goes to jail a group would take him down and put a swatsticker (or whatever it is called) tat on his forehead like Manson.. Now that would be cool..
    I agree, May 27th will be real SWEET!! RON WRONG again for the hundreth or so time..

  • Actually, preventing marriage at this time is a really good idea and FP ron weinland has a most excellent wise idea.

    By allowing people to live together without marriage solves a lot of problems and saves him a lot of time. He does not need to be concerned with other people’s fornication. He only needs to be concerned from now on with his own spiritual adultery.

    This also good for the gay people in the midst of his slave camp of livestock. They can also live together and bypass trying to get married or have a civil ceremony in what ever state they would normally seek to have it.

    This actually gives people more freedom to pursue getting ready for the massive non expansion of PKG with the subsequent non return of Je$u$ Chri$t. I u$e dollar $ign$ because that’$ ju$t about FP rotten ron weinieland can $ee.

    As far as “mocking websites” I am clueless. If he means “mocking blogs” then we are good to go and understand exactly who he is talking about. But if it is “mocking websites” I would appreciate if someone could enlighten me. Maybe “The Painful Truth” with that wonderful graphic? That just doesn’t seem to be the kind of thing he’s talking about with “mocking websites”, so do let me know, since I’m not all that bright these days.

  • The FP rotten ronnie prison T-Shirt: “They convicted me, but all I got was this crumby striped T-shirt!”

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen: The swastika is an ancient Indian symbol that marks a person or object that is lucky, or associated with well-being. The symbol can still be seen on maps of Japan, marking the sites of Buddhist temples. The Nazi swastika runs the reverse direction of the Indian swastika, but most people don’t know that so they get scared, angry, or confused when they see a Hindu or Buddhist use of a swastika. The Hindu swastika for example has dots in it too, so don’t panic if you see an East Indian or Asian wearing marked with a swastika. They are NOT a Nazi!

    The Aryan nation in jail though does not always use a swastika. A more common prison tattoo marking you as a white supremacist is a type of spiderweb on your elbow or neck. So if you see Ron coming out of prison with one of those you are better off not going near him.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen:

    Also watch out for the numbers 14 and 88 tattooed on someone. The “14” stands for the 14 words of a racist statement made by a guy named David Lane (“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.”). The “88” stands for the eighth letter of the English alphabet, “HH”, which represents the Nazi salute (“Heil Hitler”).

    Those two tattoos especially mark a person that you really don’t want to hang around with!!

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    hahaha.O gosh. you are so funny.. Now a spiderweb would be even better yet Avalo.. A big one.
    I always learn something new with you Avalo. I, as many other people, think the swastika, or swatsticker as I call it 🙂 is about the worst symbol.
    So apparently there are alot of people like me ignorant to the real meaning. I guess because we see people like Manson and Nazi’s wear it.
    I have seen spiderwebs on guys in jail from “real time in prison” show, now I know why. I was wondering why they would get a spiderweb of all things..

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen:

    Ignorance is knowing the truth and not acting on it. You merely ‘didn’t know’ something about the swastika that most people don;t know, since the Nazi swastika is the most famous one. And believe me it is my honour to have helped you understand such things. You are a very perceptive person, and anything I can do to support that skill is my privilege.

    Knowing lots of stuff about the world is not only fun, it makes life more meaningful, no matter what you believe religiously/spiritually. Science does NOT negate God unless one wants to believe that about science, then science becomes atheistic and scary. But most famous scientists in the past (and many in the present) were/are Christians. It seems to me that in the USA especially, your conservative right has demonized knowledge when it conflicts with their political aspirations, thus “God” hates X, and Y is “Satanic” when in actual fact it is their loss of political and social power which is at stake. I see this in Ron’s theology. Leaving Ron is to lessen his social/economic power as he has less tithes and less people to control. Thus exposing Ron’s lies is “mocking” and “God” is changing the accuracy of Ron’s prophecies, and blah, b;ah, blah. “God” has to be responsible for Ron’s failures because without the God Excuse, it is clearly Ron who is wrong.

    For example, in Ron’s sermon he talked about how the Palazo Hotel in Vegas was chosen for its convenience to all the sights and sounds of Vegas. They met in Ron’s room there and the staff brought extra chairs and such. A conference room PLUS room cost would be lower at a budget hotel than the price of a SINGLE ROOM at the Palazo! The deciding factor was RON’S DESIRE TO HAVE FUN. The money HAD to be spent in order for the right amount of fun to be had, NOT the preparation for Christ’s Return. If dating is forbidden because it interferes with the preparation for Christ, HOW is staying at the Palazo and seeing the sites necessary for Christ’s return? It isn’t.

    Vanity, power, glory, luxury…the marks of social power…all attributes and desires that are NOT the fruits of the Spirit…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Matthew 5:5 – “Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.”

    Philippians 2:5-11 – “Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name…”

    2 Corinthians 8:9 – “For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you by his poverty might become rich.”

    Jesus as Christ was holy and righteous. Ronald Weinland as Witness is the EXACT opposite…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ask yourself this: Which scripture is more descriptive of Ronald Weinland?

    A. 2 Timothy 3:2- “People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy”.

    B. Matthew 5:5 – “Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.”

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen: You might like this YouTube video about science. It is a mix of famous scientists talking about universe, set to music. Their voices are turned into music by using something called auto-tune, so it sounds like they are singing. The “Symphony of Science” mixes are fun to listen to, and they contain a lot of great quotes about science.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    You hit the nail on the head Avalo. WEll, about everything, especially the USA and how ” conservative right has demonized knowledge when it conflicts with their political aspirations, thus “God” hates X, and Y is “Satanic” when in actual fact it is their loss of political and social power which is at stake.”
    You are very observant my friend. I find it actually sickening. I was always a far left and now they use what tools they may in the name of religion for political reasons also. I thought when I was younger there wasn’t suppose to be religion in Politics. What I mean is you run on your politics NOT on your religion.
    I will watch the video..
    Thank you.. Hoping you and your family are well…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    My family is VERY well, and Merry CHristmas to you. Christmas doesn’t meant that much to us, but we believe that Christmas should not be changed to suit the wishes of non-Christians. If Buddhists get Tet (january 23rd) and Muslims Ramadan, etc, there is nothing wrong with having a Christmas.

    Tet is the big event here at our place. The kids love it because they get a TON of lucky presents from the relatives, Viet community members, etc. So the kids don;t care about light and a present under a tree when they just have to wait a month and get more stuff than most kids get over the course of 5 Christmases!! Plus, there is tons of food, and gatherings, so that means the kids get to have friends over for sleep-overs, pizza, pop, and such for a couple of weeks! Last year the wife and I also took a holiday in Beijing during Tet as I had some business there, and we stayed for a few extra days (celebrated New Years at the Lama Temple, bought clothes for the kids, etc).

    Probably the happiest member of the family during this time is the cat, because she is very social and gets a lot of petting and attention during Tet. Plus there are a lot of little tidbits left over on the tables or the carpet after a party and she loves to sneak around trying to find and eat them. And she is a natural hunter, so I have to be on guard so she doesn’t eat something that might hurt her, like garlic, chocolate, animal fat, or milk (adult cats don’t deal with milk well, and get diarrhea). So my job during Tet is to keep an eye on her.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Thank you Avalo.. Sounds like you have some very lucky kids, and cat for that matter. 🙂 It is just my husband and I home, but my sons best memories are of Christmas EVE when we have our seafood Feast. When they came home for Thanksgiving (my favorite Holiday) we had our Eve’s Feast, Christmas Day Feast and Thanksgiving all in 4 days.. We love good food. I know my sons would LOVE the Feast your wife’s family put on. They would be in Heaven or where ever. haha
    Today our Bulls and Bears played so we had a good Holiday.. One day I hope to have grandchildren (I am sure I will be in a rest home by then), anyway, it will be fun to have the traditions to share with them.
    My sons think like you on Christmas. Which use to confuse me because they are non-Christian, but yet to think of it, Ron teaches christmas is satanic and sick. I haven’t heard that from a non=believer. My sons want their kids to experience opening gifts and eat, eat, eat… They said even though I don’t put up all the lights and stuff, they don’t care, they still want their kids to experience the Christmas like they had when they were little. That is fine. I told them I will do it for the grandkids also. Infact, I think it will be fun to do that for them. As long as the rest home has a shopping store in it. 🙂
    When it is all over I want to hear about all the fun your kids had. Oh yeah, and if the cat survives scraps…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Christmas is a funny thing. Its roots are pagan, and it is now essentially a giant corporate holiday. It is not commanded in the Bible, but it doesn’t contradict scripture in its basic form, apart from the fact that Jesus was not born anywhere near December. It shouldn’t confuse you that your children want to celebrate Christmas or feel that it is an important family tradition. This fact, that your kids are not opposed to it per se, is one of the great conundrums of atheism.

    Most atheists, including me, were raised in a religious household and then rejected the faith. BUT we were raised with a moral system that we learned in context of religion, and then tend to claim that we are “moral without God”. Yes, we can be moral without God, but the FACT is that atheism is growing due to the religious rejecting God. I am not sure just how moral we could all be without all the moral training we received, whether we believe in God or not. Religion is supposed to teach morality, and generally does, apart from the stupidity of many of the other teachings. Me personally, I cannot verify that morality WOULD BE taught or exist in the manner Jesus taught it without a Jesus. I wish I could. But I must be intellectually honest and say that Jesus sure did set a damn fine example of how to be good, whether he was the Christ or not.

    So if Christmas means your kids practice the essence of Jesus’s teachings without the belief in Christ’ divinity, then maybe we should all celebrate Christmas and be thankful for what Jesus means to those who seek justice and peace in the world.

    Now that is a Christmas even “the atheists” can get behind!!

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    I don’t feel like I can truly celebrate Christmas at all. But I have to think of my son, and have been thinking over the last few years what I will tell him. I love a child’s imagination, and don’t want him to feel different. Santa is stupid, it being a celebration of Jesus’ birth is stupid (to me).

    I guess I will concentrate on the positives – a beautiful tree, gift giving, time with loved ones – teach my son that it is just a day that western society have set aside for this purpose, tell him the rest is bull. The last thing I want for him is to feel different (too different), or squash the beautiful imagination of a child.

    As for Ronnie’s latest rant – *yawn*

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    AMEN.. and I mean that. These are the gifts I love most. To read things like this in the younger generation than I. More thinking like that is what makes the world a better place, but unfortunetly we will still have people who are very immoral or evil, but it is not because they aren’t Christian. As you and I both know, religion doesn’t make most people as rightous as they think they are because they say they are religious. Look at Ron for example. As I said before, Ron is a good example of a very bad example. I do love Jesus’ parrables.
    I also believe deeply that our trials and struggles in life makes us stronger or breaks us. I don’t believe it always has to do with religion. What i mean is being a believer isn’t an automatic that we are good people. As we both know that is not true. False. I believe in God, but I know God gave me a mind and to make wise choices. Which on religion I am a big fat loser. No kidding. I found they were more harmful to me then helpful in my way of thinking and thinking of others who were none believers. I learned hogwash from the churches. More judgemental and hatefulness than love. But yet I still always believed in God, but never understood why the churches weren’t teaching how I thought god wanted us to be. It was very confusing to me.
    I do believe in trials teach us, even though I certainly don’t like them, but hopefully I have learned from them. And I am so thankful to learn what I have on this blog. Listening to others, but especially things you write Avalo, has really opened my eyes ALOT.. wish I could have realized alot of these things earlier in my life. I sometimes feel I have wasted alot of my time in life searching for something that wasn’t in a building. I find it pathetic on my part. But at least I know why I couldn’t find what I was looking for, because it was inside me all the time. Most of the world doesn’t know it yet. But it is with in. Just like what Zen I think teaches. I think maybe buddha also, is that correct?
    Look how far you have come Avalo. Look how you have learned from your struggles in life and turned them around to conquer them all and now look at what you have.. and I don’t mean material things, but the things that matter, your happy family.
    Yes. Life is great if that is what we, ourselves choose.
    Yes, Christmas is just a money maker. You are so right on that!! The grocery store is what makes the money on us at that time, well when the boys are home. haha

    I just think we had our sermons for the day Avalo. 🙂

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Kirrily, that would be a hard thing I guess for you if you were brought up not celebrating Christmas. After all that isn’t even Jesus’ birthday. The world made up a day to celebrate gift giving and greed.
    But you can make it traditional and just a wonderful time together as a family, and nothing more. I did with my boys when they were very young, but it wasn’t religious. The book I always would read them after our seafood feast is “I love you forever, I love you for always”. What a tear jerker for a mom, but it is my favorite book. About a mother and her son. Kids book, but to be read by a mother to her son.
    You have to get it. I have extras here at home. If I knew your address I would send it. But I am sure you can find it there. We didn’t talk religion or I didn’t bad mouth it either. I was just truthful with my sons about it, and I celebrated it in the way I wanted to. We didn’t go to church or read the bible so my boys didn’t know much about it. I never wanted to shove religion down their throats. Even though i did try once when they got older. Didn’t work one bit. haha I guess the brainwashing i should have started at a young age hey? JK of course. I really always wanted them to make their own choices when they got older what religion they wanted, and low and behold, they chose NONE of them.. Backfired on me.. But know I am glad they made their own choices..
    You will know what to do Kirrily. It will come to you naturally…

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    BTW Kirrily, we haven’t had Christmas in years. No more lit trees or outside decorations. I think we got tired of it, and plus everyone expected us to do it around here. So of course the rebal I am I stopped. Pissed the neighbors off, but my boys could have cared less. All they wanted was to have us all together and have our seafood feast.. I miss not the 4 of us together anymore, but I can’t say I miss all the work with decorating to keep up with the Jones’.. I never realized how nice it is to not have to do so much work…
    But we will still have our tradition when we are together. Even the book reading. haha I insist on that part.. 🙂

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    I really need to hit the hay. But as I was letting my dog out to potty, it hit me. I thought maybe that is why Jesus’ birthdate isn’t in the Bible (that is if you believe in Jesus) is because He didn’t want anyone to know or celebrate. He knew if the world did it would only cause greed, suicide, debt, fights, etc. etc… so I am sure that is why I think He really doesn’t want Christmas. Just a thought. nite nite

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen: You said “…at least I know why I couldn’t find what I was looking for, because it was inside me all the time. Most of the world doesn’t know it yet. But it is with in. Just like what Zen I think teaches. I think maybe buddha also, is that correct?”Being a former Zen Buddhist monk-in-training and living with a Zen Buddhist I like to think I know a little bit about Zen Buddhism! So let me say a couple of things about Zen and Ronald Weinland to help you gain some perspective, if I may be so bold.

    “Buddhism” started 2500+ years ago in India. A wealthy prince named Siddartha became dissatisfied with his life and left it all behind to wander around meeting up with the holy men and philosophers of his day to figure out the ‘secret” of Life. He found “it” and his explanation of life is now known amongst Buddhists as The Four Noble Truths; (1) Life has much suffering, (2) our various desires cause this suffering, (3) ‘Suffering’ (not pain) can be eliminated, (4) The Eight Ways of Proper Living (as formulated by the Buddha) can eliminate that suffering. When Siddartha told people his system they called him an enlightened person of great wisdom, a “Buddha” (from the Sanskrit ‘udh’ = “one who knows”). But this path was a PHILOSOPHY, and was NOT mesnt to be a religion. So when you see “Buddhists” praying to Gods, and waving beads, etc, that was not meant to be. But Buddhism became that due to various doctrinal and political changes brought on by arguing factions of monks, etc. Technically the only “real” Buddhists around today are the South Asian Theravadan Buddhists, whose belief system is currently the closest to what Siddartha is reputed to have taught (his words were gathered and compiled into a book 200 years after his death by a council of monks who decided which sayings were “most likely” to be Siddartha’s!!) ZEN Buddhism is a kind of Buddhism that started in China, and spread to Korea/Japan, though Japanese Zen is what we refer to when we say “Zen” today.

    A major misconception about Zen is that what we call Zen is actually “Zen-like” philosophy, fine arts, etc. When people take about something having a Zen quality, they mean it is simple, asymmetrical, abstract, minimalist, or something. Japanese arts, design, furniture, clothes, etc, have all been influenced by Zen Buddhist principles, but these principles are not ZEN BUDDHISM which is “real” Zen. People imagine Zen Budhists just sitting around meditating, drinking tea, and saying odd things, and not doing anything other than that. The reality is though that Zen Buddhism, espcially the branch known as Rinzai (I was in the Soto branch) is very rigorous, and you have to study and work very hard in the temple. Even in the Soto temples (in japan) you have top psend a lot of time cleaning, studying, landscaping, meditating, and analyzing/memorizing scripture. It is actually harder than Catholic seminary (according to my ex-Catholic priest friends living in the monastery with me).

    Now, Ron has looked inside himself and decided to manipulate people and glorify himself to get what he wants. Zen/Buddhism teaches us that we must be thankful and grateful to all, due to the fact that we are all interconnected to such a degree that each of us is dependant upon the goodness and hard work of others just for our daily survival. For example, some had to raise the crops that became the wheat that became my toast today. Some one had to cook it, package it, put it on a truck, drive the truck to the store, unpack the truck, load the brad into the store, put the bread on the shelves, etc. I owe several people a debt of gratitude for working hard to make that bread available to me via the store. And those are just commercial actions. How many other things are we dependant on in the same manner on a variety of levels? If anything, Zen teaches to look within in humility and thankfulness for the grace of others (Christians included).

    Ron looks within and sees just how much more he can get at the expense of others.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    WOW..That is insightful.. It sounds awesome to me. I have a couple small zen books, one from an old friend of mine and one from my son. That was years ago when he was searching out about Buddha. I think he met a girl who was Buddhist.
    Now my friend always believed in Zen and the teachings and meditated. When things are going bad she always says “I need to get back to reading my books and meditating”.But yet I think she believes in God. Can one do both? I thought Zen had great philosophy of living life. I guess it kind of reminded me a bit of a book like proverbs from the Bible. Of course I haven’t read all of Proverbs. Not sure if Proberbs is as in depth though as Zen. I will have to search that one out myself and see.
    That is exactly correct on what some looks within to find! Most want to look for the good and people like Ron looks to see what he can do next to get more money from people.
    What scheme can he dig up now and what prediction can he give to scare people out of their money.

    I bet you like the song “Imgagine”.? Beatle “John”.

  • Thank you… that makes it more clear why Dr. Herman Hoeh turned to Buddhism. Traitor. He should have suffered like all the rest of us.

  • You should be honored that you are now included in “The Infidel Blogs” Links at The Supreme Cult.

    Umm. Maybe “honored” isn’t the word you’d use….

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Actually, I can’t stand “Imagine” by John Lennon.

    Imagining that there is no religion at all is foolish. There will always be religious thinking whether or not we have religion as we know it now. And having no religion doesn’t automatically equal “living as one”. That hippy idealism proved to be a cynical dead end. Those same hippies became yuppies, and are now the corporate criminals, “peace and love” until they realized they could stick it to ‘the man’ by becoming ‘the man’, and when they did become ‘the man’, they were worse than “the Man” before them.

    I would love to see Christianity disappear entirely along with Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, etc. But that doesn’t mean I hope Mankind stops being religious, just religious about the truth…not fairy tales.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Keep in mind that Zen was developed within the context of ancient Chinese,Korean, and Japanese socio-religious history. The forms it took were tailored to the mental situation of those times and peoples. So as much as a lot of Zen wisdom is applicable in general, it is not actually healthy for certain modern individuals, and therein lies one of the major flaws of Zen Buddhism. Certain types of meditation/thinking are not healthy if a person is gregarious and is better served by being socially active with charities, etc. Hours of meditating without a proper guide can create a spiritual monster. I have met a lot of these people along the way. Completely selfish, and pathologically incapable of empathy, yet they saw it as ‘spiritual”. Zen has a history of physical and spiritual abuse disguised as crazy Zen wisdom, but it is absolutely not wisdom in any stretch of the imagination. It is also not healthy to practice Zen without a guide if one is bipolar or depressed as Zen can lead that person to be nihilistic in that situation. Zen teaches that things are not inherently real/meaningful, but people see that as meaning that things are NOT real, or NOT meaningful, which is not the same thing. So take any Zen books or wisdom you read with a grain of salt.

    Zen Buddhism is yet another human invention. Take it as such.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    The Supreme Cult is where PKG members should go when they give up on Ron. Added a link to the sidebar.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Mike is probably thinking right now. “WHAT THE HECK IS HAPPENING TO MY BLOG?” This is a Ronnie False Prophet blog.. 🙂 Sry, it can be healthy to throw in some other stuff now and then. Maybe cults can read it and get some good thinking going.

    One of the Zen books I have would be just like a book of proverbs. The small ones that give out (supposingly) good healthy thoughts. Never really read all the Zen daily pages, or read the Book my friend gave me years ago. Now the title of the one she gave me sounded off to me and something I wouldn’t like to read anyway.. She is a good person, but she started to fly to guru conferences or something like that, and she was a bit different when she would get back, but in a weird way. She spent a whole lotta money flying everywhere to find herself with all these gurues.

    hahaha. Had to laugh on your answer to Imagine.. yes, imaginary I guess should be the name. 🙂

    Ok. back to business. Holiday is over.. So what is new Mike with Godman.?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I imagine that Godman is working with his lawyers to try to figure out how to explain all the expenses the government has determined are personal income on which he didn’t pay taxes. If not doing that, then figuring out how to compress his timeline some more. Either way, probably less time to play mind games with individual cult members.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Mike, I really think he has alot on his plate right now. 🙁 poor thing. Can you imagine the stress he is under and his followers. Ron is stressed over being caught and his followers are stressed over Ron being accused of False accusations. I bet they are praying like they never prayed before.. I hope Ron is under more stress than he has ever had in his life. He deserves to be.

  • Thank you Mike. Not necessary, but much appreciated. We’ll have some stuff in the blog for you next year.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Douglas, is your supreme cult leader going to have an article putting death curses on all the webmasters of websites that criticize him?

  • You know, Mike, he hadn’t thought of that (although, in the links, he shows links to infidels and that sort of serves the same purpose), but that’s a great idea and we shall explore that. (The suspicion is that curses will be placed in such a Supremely General fashion that they could apply to just about any Armstrongist minister.)

    Is there any particular curse you would like to have pronounced on you? You know, like having long life and prosperity for all your good works? Just asking.

    Anyway, it’s not even on the drawing board yet, what with “What’s Ahead for 2012” or titles to that effect.

    Besides, there are three more websites to open.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    🙂 Just read about the 14 and 88 tattoo. Thanks for the warning. Now I will be checking peoples tats out. haha

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Douglas, I was actually hoping that I could get Weinland to prophesy that I would never, ever win the lottery jackpot. If I could get him to do that, I’d buy a single ticket and start plotting how to spend the winnings 😀

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    MIke (DDTFA): Prophesied that jesus will NOT return on May 27th, 2012.
    Ronald Weinland: prophesied that Jesus WILL return on May 27th, 2012.

    PKG: Will you believe Ronald Weinland is a false prophet when Mike is proven to be right? For how can a TRUE prophet get JESUS’ Return WRONG?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ronald Weinland has: Prophesied that Jesus would return on September 29, 2011.
    I have: prophesied that he would not return on September 29, 2011.

    PKG: Why do you think Ronald Weinland is not a false prophet?

  • jack635 says:

    PKG: Why do you think Ronald Weinland is not a false prophet?

    Because he is the only one who is preaching the “truth”. WTF that means, I don’t know, but they have said that before.

    Okay, maybe PKG “truth” means “the lies we want to believe”.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    I remember Ron saying God is NEVER wrong. He preached that over and over when I was in. WELL, DAH!! That should have been a sign for the followers in 2008.
    I can’t wait until the day after May 27th Mike when the followers get on here and tell you, you were right the whole time. Of course they won’t. Maybe a few may come on here for help though..

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ron will come up with some lame excuse for Christ not returning, and if he is convicted for that as well. And most of the PKG members will swill Ron’s Flavor Aid right down.

  • jack635 says:

    Ron will come up with some lame excuse for Christ not returning

    Yeah, like God is testing your faith. Or refining their faith like a refiner refines pure gold.

    And that nullifies all those prophecies made in his book and by his mouth “in the name of the Lord”?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    The faith of PKG members gets tested a lot. Their faith is in Ronald Weinland, and everything he’s said has failed.

  • I have learned my lesson and never, never, never make any prophecies any more.

    Having said that though, FP rotten ronnie needs a wake up call, so I will violate my Law #4 and make a prediction — specific and very short term:

    Jesus Christ will not return January 1, 2012.

    Once this event does not occur, it should be clear that I am a better prophet that FP rotten ronnie, and folks, I’m not a prophet at all. Period. End of story.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I’ll do you one better Douglas: I predict that Jesus Christ will not return yesterday afternoon! I’m a TRUE prophet!!

  • GD says:

    Ron says all the divorced or divorcing brainwashed members cannot re-marry. this just shows the fruits of his lies . I wonder how many families he has ruined ? One day soon he will receive the punishment for all his evil .

  • Be sure to write for FP rotten’s free booklets: “How to have an Unhappy Unmarriage” and “The Seven Obstacles I will put in the way to your having a Happy Marriage”.

  • One more booklet: “Seven Laws to Deteriorating Health”.

    Sorry, but the booklet, “Ending My Financial Worries” is not written yet.

    And, I know, I know, I’m still working on “Misery of the Ages”.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Good morning gang!
    I just wanted to leave a little message here to Avalo. Off topic again, Sry, Mike.
    This will be short.
    Avalo. I read about, zen, guru, and Buddhism. Stayed up most of the night. Better understanding. I even found Polish buddhist. Interesting. Since I am Polish, of course I had to read that too. Amazing what one can learn when they read for themselves to find out things. 🙂

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    BTW Mike. I looked up PKG/ Ron’s church is a Package. Lordy I am getting so smart.:)

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    And what’s in that package?

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Worms…

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    More like snakes.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    I was just going to write, “it could be snakes.” I think most of us are of one mind on this blog. We are beginning to think alike. 🙂

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Scary, huh? 😉

  • The fullfilment of prophecy about our “speaking the same things”.

    Biblical.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Yes Mike! Whoa! 🙂

  • chacha says:

    and speaking in tongues?

    or with tongues….or just typing on a blog…

    Hope everyone has a wonderful last few days before the really for REAL tribulation begins FOR REAL this time….in earnest…truly

    Enjoying the “End of Tyranny” in MY life, since I left the Feast and went home. Yeah…there was upheaval and some hard time…but it didn’t kill me. And I AM stronger.

    Looking forward to time spend ENJOYING my life, not waiting for the next “bad news” story to “rejoice in the proof” of wRONg’s greatness.

    *barf*

    Life is good. The snow is beautiful. The sky is NOT falling…and if it does…ah well.

    (btw Doug, great site!)

    May we all have a wonderful peaceful amazing new year. Our best to you all.

    Chacha and Mr. Chacha LOL 🙂

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen: Polish…that explains a lot! All the Poles, Polish-Canadians, or Polish-Americans I know I really like. And one of the best nights of drinking I have ever had was in Gdansk (Sopot).

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Glad to hear that Avalo.. Wait until I teach you, your wife and girls how to do the Polka!! The party is on!!

  • Atrocious says:

    “Roll out the barrel, we’ll have a barrel of fun”…. I used to play accordion and that was one of the songs I could play.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen:

    I am German. You don’t have to teach me anything about the polka. You and I come from the POLKA COUNTRIES!! LOL!! Better yet, you and I should teach everyone else here about the polka, one of the best forms of exercise and endurance training there is. Want to train for a marathon? Go to a Ukranian wedding dance and polka for 7 hours straight!

    We are the polka people!

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Well then Atrocious we need a good accordion player.
    Avalo we can always make a video..:) For few years danced 6 nights a week. I really think that is why I can still hike mountains at my young age of **.
    The weddings are the BEST!! I don’t think most people can even imagine just how awesome they were. I don’t see that anymore. At least around here, it is punch and cookies with no music..or dancing. Yeah! Real exciting.
    I know dang well I could do at least 8 hours still. How about you?
    You know we have alot of food in common. Dancing and food.. BIG in our culture, ey? Our wakes were as big as our weddings. Party till morning to celebrate the death. Then of course the common fights by morning.
    By the way I still say the Germans stole our good recipes. My German friends say the opposite and I know they are right on a few recipes, but I won’t admit it to them.
    We cooked with most of the same main ingrediants as you, due to lack of money of course.

    I sure miss all the ethnic traditions I was brought up with.. Still waiting to get the picture of our jaja’s signiture from Ellis Island.

    So you Polka!! Then yes we are Polka people too. Great for the heart!

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Ahhh. On second thought I may need breaks inbetween..:)

  • Atrocious says:

    I USED to play the accordion. I can’t play it anymore. You know the old saying…If you don’t use it, you lose it… Well, I haven’t played for years and I done lost it. I use to could polka too, but I can’t do that anymore, either. Polka on…I’ll watch. LOL

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    It is like riding a bike. or is that a horse?! Hmm not sure. I use to ride a bike and when I tried getting back on these fancy ones I fell off.. Never went back on again.
    You are right though Atro. Haven’t spoke Polish in years and years. Ya don’t use it you lose it is for sure. I still remember the important words though.
    You will learn it fast Atro. Polka…

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Sure would like to talk my cuz into traveling to Poland some day and see our family. BUT I don’t think we will have time. You know. The May 27th thing..

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Don;t worry Atrocious, the polka is just a two step where you bounce back and forth to the rhythm. ANYONE can do it, that is why it is so much fun!As Helen’s relatives might put it:

    Wszyscy kochają polki!!!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    How to Polka:

    1. Drink 3 oz. of vodka.
    2. Bounce around with a partner.
    3. End up having a fistfight in the parking lot and then become best friends with who you’re fighting.
    4. Drink more vodka.
    5. Dance with your grandmother.
    6. Vomit in the parking lot.
    7. Repeat steps 1 -6 for the next 8 hours.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSZvk7nRNHA

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    And I can’t think of a better way to celebrate the return (or non-return) of Jesus Christ by putting up a few lights in the backyard, running some extension cords, cooking up some Vietnamese BBQ, and having a polka party. As they say in Vietnamese: di polka di!!

    “Hey, Lord Jesus, come join us for a schottische!!”

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Man you sized that up to just about exact. After 15 shots, Pollocks say, “What the hell, just give me the whole damn bottle you bunch of no good cheap drunks, blah blah: OOPS.. “Dad and Uncle John are fighting again mom”.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    The Monday following when Christ doesn’t return is Memorial Day in the U.S.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    ChaCha, hoping this next year will be a better year for both you and the Mr. Thinking odds of that are very, very good.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Helen:

    And don’t forget learning to smoke behind the dance hall (Elks Lodge or Polish/German community hall), because little Magda stole some smokes from her Dad’s jacket while he was dancing, and the young boys hanging around bragging to each other about their sexual feats (which in reality they had never actually had anything you could call sex, and were lying about so they didn’t seem like nerds!), and Uncle Reinhardt is waltzing a little too eagerly with the young bachelorettes for Aunt Anja’s tastes, etc, etc…

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Hahaha. That sounds like my brothers..
    Most of the old pics I have to show my sons of the family over 50 years ago are the ones all of the Polish family sitting around at tables with bottles of Vodka, whisky, etc. sitting all on the tables and Baba’s with their babushka’s.. or in Polish real name “babcia”. Those were the days!

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Mike, I guess we will have to have it early then.. well to Ron’s calculations..
    I guess we will have our last Potatoe Pancakes for breakfast, with REAL kielbasa. Golabki for dinner. And Kaluska z Kapusta.
    with starters Duck Blood soup.. My house all day! We will bring in May 27th together. See it come and go.. then back to our old routines.

  • Helen Terlecki Wright says:

    Oh yeah. Don’t leave out the Perogie. That you germans learned from us. 🙂 WE still argue over who came up first with the Potato pancake. Germans or Pollocks.(oops. not potatoe as in above message, a Polish slip)