Economic Collapse Now on the Doorstep

False Prophet Ronald Weinland has a new post on his blog.  Repeated here below the fold for your convenience and opportunity to comment, since he doesn’t allow comments on his blog.

—– Ronnie’s Ramblings ———————–

The year 2008 proved to be devastating for the world economy, but since that initial collapse people have stubbornly believed that it can be turned around. The common sound bite from brokers and financial advisors is that if you keep your money in the market, “in time” you will recoup those earlier losses and begin seeing a profit once again.

The truth is that the world doesn’t have enough time to wait for such an outcome because what started in 2008 is now going to become much, much worse. The entire economic system is intertwined so closely together that an economic disaster in one part of the world creates a rippling effect that is felt throughout all other regions.

The bad news surrounding such global conditions is accelerating. Speeches are losing their luster as people are becoming wiser to the reality that promises, political gamemanship, and casting blame on others is producing nothing that is good.  Government, corporate, and economic leaders say much but can do nothing to turn the tide of what is beating down the economies of the world.

Europe Will Take Control
Prophetic events are now rapidly accelerating that are molding and fashioning the emergence for what will come upon the world once the Fifth Trumpet of Revelation has sounded. When that takes place, the final form of the next and last revival of the Holy Roman Empire will come to pass. It will be exactly as Herbert W. Armstrong was given to see: Ten nations in Europe combining to form this last resurrection of that old empire.

During this month of September, the world has been reeling from bad economic news on every front. That which leaders continued to insist would take only a couple of years to begin to turn around, has now turned to gloomy forecasting, predicting it will take ten years before a turn around might begin.

It is the very condition and eventual collapse of the world economy that will ultimately push ten nations to emerge as a United States of Europe—the last revival of the Holy Roman Empire with Germany at the helm. As in a great game of football or soccer, people from all quarters are giving their advice and strategies, including how the euro will survive or fail, of which countries should default or be rescued, whether and what countries should remain in the EU, and on and on it goes.

Even Timothy Geithner has been giving his advice to Europe’s leaders by speaking out in Wroclaw, Poland, at the Eurozone finance ministers meetings. The US Treasury secretary told Europe’s leaders to stop bickering and “take control” of the debt crisis that has brought “catastrophic risk” to financial markets. Of course there was much more advice contained in other comments, but what he does not know is that Europe “is taking control,” but not in a way that he could ever imagine.

The euro is not weak. It is a strong tool that has given Germany more power and influence than it has ever had in European history. It has become so powerful that most don’t even recognize how it can be used to influence, coerce, and even manipulate others into moving in one political direction or another.

Angela Merkel is a highly educated and smart woman. She did not get to where she is by being weak or lacking a grasp of politics. One of her most masterful quotes will come to be seen as, “If the euro fails, Europe fails.” Germany will not let the euro fail, and there are other euro member nations who will not let the euro fail. Because they will not let the new Europe fail.

This month, even former German chancellor, Gerhard Schroeder, called for the creation of a “United States of Europe,” saying the bloc needed a common government to avoid future economic crises. Yes, the euro is strong and it has become a powerful tool.

While the Scattered Church Sleeps
As many of the various scattered organizations following the apostasy are waiting for the 1st Seal of Revelation to be opened, they are soon going to be shocked with confronting a reality they believe is many years away. Since they know that ten nations of a United States of Europe are prophesied to come on the scene, when they see this happen “within” the next few months, they will have to confront the reality of where we are in time. Even then, pride will be an obsticle to acknowledging that the 5th Trumpet of the 7th Seal has just been blown.

This will be the long awaited time when many of those of the scattered body will finally be awakened out of their deep spiritual sleep. Those who will be truthful with themselves and with God will come to see that they were not given charge to “continue” a “work” that is described in Matthew 24:14 as, “And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then shall the end come.”

Those who repent of falling asleep will come to know that this verse was fulfilled through Herbert W. Armstrong; for when he died, that “work” ended, and the end “did come.” At his death, the Church moved from the Philadelphia Era into the Ladodicean Era. Then the prophesied end-time apostasy “did come” upon God’s true Church, and the Church was scattered.

Those who are willing to repent will come to acknowledge the truth of what God promised at the end-time and written by John in Revelation 11:3. In a literal translation, “And I [God speaking] will give my [Gk “my” – used only when emphatic] two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days clothed in sackcloth.” God’s Church has long known that at the end-time God would send two witnesses to complete His work on earth before His Son would come as King of kings.

The two are “clothed in sackcloth,” which is a prophetic expression of being clothed in humility to do the job set before them, for the world and especially the scattered Church mocks and ridicules them once they come on the scene. These two willingly accept the derision, the lies, the contempt, the mocking, and the slander of others. It is very much a part of their job and their work as a witness of human nature that has resisted God for 6,000 years and now magnified in a period of 3 ½ years, even by those who at baptism received the impregnation of God’s own spirit. It is indeed a powerful testimony/witness of the power of human nature to resist God—a lesson that will mightily benefit those who live in the Millennium and Great White Throne periods.

Global Economic Collapse
Just before those ten nations of Europe are forced together, the world will first experience a massive economic collapse. That collapse is now on the doorstep. Banks are going to fail. Brokers are going to fail. Corporations are going to fail. Governments are going to fail.

Sadly the mindset of many in the world is to run to U.S. Treasuries. What a foolish mistake. It is paper, and even beyond that, it is a series of 0’s and 1’s that is locked away in cyberspace. You cannot eat it. You cannot carry it with you to purchase anything. When the collapse comes, those treasuries will become worthless. Money supposedly stashed away in safe and secure bonds, stocks, and even bank accounts are nothing but 0’s and 1’s that are also locked away in cyberspace.

Once a bank fails, how difficult will it be to withdraw those 0’s and 1’s? How difficult will it be to sell your stock that will suddenly become toxic? How valuable are your 0’s and 1’s, which make up the binary code of today’s computer age?

One last warning! If you have any saved funds in a bank, at least be wise enough to take out some in cash and buy some extra food. Take out some and stash it away in a safe place. Because once the bank doors close, and they will close, it will be too late to get emergency cash!

You live in “fearful” times. If you are not fully awake to that reality, it is time to seek out some true reality!

— End of Ronnie’s rant ———-

And now your opportunity to comment below.


  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Isn’t it interesting how Ron is NOT talking about HWA’s “Place of Safety” – Petra. It was ABSOLUTE TRUTH that the Church was going to flee to Petra, Israel before the Tribulation, and Ron hasn’t mentioned that AT ALL. If he was so filled with truth then why no fleeing?

    Talk about fear mongering. Take money out of the bank and buy extra food? LOL!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Best one-liber of the year: “It is time to seek out some true reality”. LMAO!

  • randy terlecki says:

    i sure will be glad when may 27, 2012 is here and over so we all can have a good laugh!!!!

  • jack635 says:

    Take out some and stash it away in a safe place. Because once the bank doors close, and they will close, it will be too late to get emergency cash!

    If Ron thinks he can tip the balance by getting his 500 followers to empty their bank accounts, thus plunging the world into global depression, then he is crazy. But being a con artist, it is much easier for his followers to give him money if it is already in their houses or in their pockets.

    Three years have gone by quickly. We only have to wait out the winter to see what he is really going to do in May. Oh and by the way, the Christmas decorations are starting to go up on the shelves.

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    Ava, Ron doesn’t believe in fleeing to Petra. I forget why.

    A real prophet of God wouldnt have to cite so many articles and name many ‘wordly’ people to try and ‘prove’ his prophecies are coming true.

    Once again, he posts this, and once again, the Dow goes up over 200 points.

    What Ron has just written can be read in many places on web, by many different authors.

    “We will know who Gods true prophet is by how well he can re-write pre-existing articles on the economy”.

  • martin says:

    God makes liars of false prophets.

    I’m not sure, but I think in almost every instance, when Ronald ‘The Insane Lying False Prophet’ Weinland, has ever made any prophetic announcement that was remotely UNambigious, the opposite has always happened. For example, during the oil leak, he tried to get people to believe this was the ‘turning the seas to blood scenario, where 1/3 of all sea life would die’, but soon as he said it, the leak was plugged up.

    I believe the bible, so I believe that ultimately, all these prophecies will be fulfilled, but…no….it has not happened yet.

    Ronald Weinland and unfortunately his followers are under the delusion, that just because Ronald Weinland say it has happened, that it’s happened (ie the economic collapse of the U.S.). They can not make the mental effort to actually look out, and see, did it happen? did it not happen? Unfortunate.

    The bible instructs us to TEST the prophets, to see what they say, if it is true or not.

    Ronald by HIS OWN MOUTH, has said prophecies he announced failed…HE IS TELLING YOU HE IS A FALSE PROPHET with these words and with that admission. On that basis you should exercise the Deut. instruction against false prophets.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    “On that basis you should exercise the Deut. instruction against false prophets.”

    I agree when it comes to the not fearing him part. When it comes to the “shall die” part, I say leave that up to God.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    “Leave that up to God”…agreed.

    No need to hurry him along towards his end. Lunatic or not, he still has the right to be a lunatic.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    And while Ron is running away from reality, my brothers and sisters in the sciences are working FOR humanity. It seems they have sent a neutrino from one place to another FASTER than the speed of light…meaning that the sub-atomic particle may have travelled through another dimension, like a short-cut. Amazing stuff brought to you by science.

  • martin says:

    “On that basis you should exercise the Deut. instruction against false prophets.”

    I agree when it comes to the not fearing him part. When it comes to the “shall die” part, I say leave that up to God.

    Yes, of course. That was the part I was referring to.

    The “shall die” part, is up to God.

  • martin says:

    Here is the verse I should have added at end of text….

    Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

  • me says:

    Actually, Avalokiteshvara, Ron does mention Petra in his sermons, but he speaks of it as Gods protection, not of it being a particular place.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Uh-oh, he changed HWA’s theology! It was an actual place that the WWCG was going to, and you could be disfellowshipped for arguing against that “fact’ with HWA. Looks like Ron is a lot more like Joe Tkach Sr. than he lets on!

    Just how many things can he ‘spiritualize” before his drooling PKG-tards start wondering what the hell is going on…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    If Frank Zappa were still alive, this is what he would say to Ronald Weinland:

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    “Just how many things can he ‘spiritualize” before his drooling PKG-tards start wondering what the hell is going on…”

    He’s spiritualized our speedy deaths from the inside for violated his curse against mocking him.

  • Jeshurun says:

    It is time to prepare now. The time is growing closer. It is happening all around us. If you have Jesus in your life keep him there. Stand on that rock and refuse to step off. If you do not have Jesus in your life the time has come to seek him out. He is not far from any of us..walk in Christ..I love you all..God loves you and pray always..our redemption is at the doors.

  • matt says:

    Anybody else notice that there is no actual mention of the timeline he set previously? It sounds to me like he is making a lot of noise, trying to claim the current sovereign debt crisis as one of his prophesies (it never was by the way) while at the same time forgetting that we only have a few months left for this all to materialize. I think he is preparing to postpone the whole show

  • matt says:

    Heya Jeshurun!

    Tell you what – if the world ends like Ron predicts, I will happily convert. Now, if it DOESN’T happen, will you do the same?

  • Whisper01 says:

    Well, lets see… Ron has 8 months left to make this all happen. Considering that a “Horde” needs to march all the way to the Middle East across Asia, that European soldiers need to cross the Atlantic and occupy America coast to coast, all of the Trumpets need to sound (not one has…) and most of the Thunders (economic upheaval has, but all the sliver preachers of HWA’s empire need to die etc…), and Europe Must consolidate into 10 country super Empire and militarily march to the Far East to stop the Asian “Horde” then ya that seems like a large laundry list to accomplish in such a short time.

    Ron tells us that the Horde is ready to go but hiding 200,000,000 people is kind hard when they must be “assembled” togethor to be a “Horde”.
    Europe is not advancing beligerancy in the least and the USA is still here and a huge economic / military force that needs to evaporate entirely for the prophecies to happen. That seems like a LOT of work. Go figure?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Jeshurun, over on my old blog you prophesied that the Abomination of Desolation would happen on May 24th. And that some mysterious blessing would happen on July 11. And that Iran would arise as the beast power.

    Why should we believe any of the crap you spew out?

  • jack635 says:

    Well Jeshurun, I guess Ron is right this time. If you have any saved funds in a bank, at least be wise enough to take out some in cash and buy some extra food. Because once the bank doors close, and they will close, it will be too late to get emergency cash! And it won’t be safe hiding it in your house, because it will eventually be worthless. You’d best give it to Ron. He can decide when will be the best time to spend it.

  • jack635 says:

    And Jeshurun, If Ron is not right this time, he will be right the next time.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Amazing how “GOD” reveals different plans to different people. I feel sorry for “God”. He attracts a lot of morons.

  • Yes, the banks will close. You should take some money out.

    They will be closed Monday, October 10, 2011 for Columbus Day.

  • I’m willing to bet Ronnie made his proclamation based on this guy. Ronnie’s points parallel this guy all-too-well.

    The joke may be on Ronnie though, because it is heavily suspected this guy is a member of the “yes -men”, who are a group of pranksters looking to pull a fast one on the media.

  • Joeseph says:

    Here’s how 10 nations rising out of Europe IS happening:

  • Joeseph says:

    Regarding taking money out of the bank, etc.. Isn’t that the purpose of God’s prophets, to warn the Church..this in itself is a form of or part of Petra, it’s called warning. Also, the last time the stock market behaved as it’s now was just before a massive crash. You have to be a total fool to not see what’s going on in this world. The funny thing is how much time you waste on what you call a “false prophet”…you must be really bored to follow such “nonsense” so closely. If he’s right that would mean that you’re motivated by demons…ever think about it that way? You seem to know his sermons word for word and you’ve spent so much time building this website…and you people are calling someone a “lunatic”…you seem a bit peculiar yourselves. Did you have a website for Harold Camping too? There’s also “Weinland watch”…what a joke. The fact that you haven’t proven anything he’s said as “false” is just funny. Why don’t you just find your own Church of God group where they regurgitate HWA nonstop, like a broken record? Or is your goal simply to be known by God as a “mocker”? Weeping and gnashing of teeth someday, maybe? I’m sure you’ll be tuning in on this Feast of Trumpets sermon today, hope you enjoy it.

  • jack635 says:

    There’s also “Weinland watch”…what a joke

    You didn’t mention the “Weinland Witness”. This web site warns new people of the dangers of following a liar.

  • jack635 says:

    Joeseph, I see Ron’s latest sorcery has gotten to you. You had to come here and vent your frustration because you are having trouble with your decision to cash in your savings. Why would you give your money to Ron when all he has done is say he is a prophet. What signs and wonders has he done? Nothing! The only wonder he has done is to get 500 people to give him their money.

  • Disappointed says:


    RW posted: “It is the very condition and eventual collapse of the world economy that will ultimately push ten nations to emerge as a United States of Europe—the last revival of the Holy Roman Empire with Germany at the helm.”

    What’s interesting about the article you posted is that Germany is among the group of 17, not the group of 10. God bless.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Joeseph, this very comment proves something that Ron said is false. His death curse on me and anyone who would mock him. And at the time he pronounced the curse, it was for a physical death. Spiritually, I’m no different than I was before.

    There are numerous other failed pronouncements documented on my website. You glance at a few pages, and make blanket declarations. Don’t disturb your delusions.

    Flavor Aid tastes good, huh?

  • yevgevny says:

    but the bible itself has god’s servants mocking false religions-

    elijah to the prophets of baal:

    1 kings 18 “At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.

    just as elijah mocked the prophets of baal, it is ok to mock ron weinland.

  • jack635 says:

    And Elijah was not given money by those who believed him. A raven brought him grain one seed at a time. No money. Is Ron this humble?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Avalo, I moderated your comments. This is not your debate thread.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Aha! I see the Anti-Anti-Christ Spirit at work here in your blog!! LOL!

    mea culpa…:)

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    Ah yes, like I said a while ago, we will start to get more and more Josephs here as they take their frustrations out on us.

    Joseph, could you do me a favor and tell me what the word ‘exactly’ means? (Ie, “When we are told 1/3 of all plant life will be destroyed, that is EXACTLY what it means” (paraphrased).

    Or to understand the word ‘exactly’ require the Holy Spirit and to be a member of PKG?

    I hope you dont get disfellowshipped for posting here with us demons. tsk tsk.

    You might want to ask yourself, I mean really ask yourself WHY you decided to post here. What was your intent?

    Also, how do you justify the scripture in Deut about determining a false prophet by things NOT coming to pass?

    Indeed, this blog does provide proof that not ONE prophecy Ron has made has come true exactly as stated in his book. Unless of course, you could go to the link above (The 2008 Gods Final Witness tab) and tell us where we have gone wrong (at the same time tell us what ‘exactly’ means.

    I would be grateful to hear you answer these questions, as EVERY other PKG member has never been heard from again here once asked these questions. You could finally be the PKG member to shed some light on this for us!

    Thanks in advance Jospeh. Think about it, YOU could be the one responsible for our repentance if you can just answer these important questions – what prophecies did Ron make in GFW come true exactly as written? I mean, the book even says it is NOW that God would reveal Himself to the WORLD – you could be a big part of that in being here.

    Again, all other PKG members have chosen not to answer, perhaps they can’t. We never hear from them again. Hopefully you will be different.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Seems to me that Joeseph broke the sabbath, reading a mocking website on the Feast of Trumpets.

  • jack635 says:

    Now I know what “fire proceeds from their mouths” means. Whenever a PKG member comments here…….poof. Ron and Laura vaporize them instantly. That’s why they never come back to answer the question. Thanks for getting me to “think differently” Kirrily. And thanks to you too Mike, for revealing why Joeseph was devoured by fire, for being a sabbath breaker.

  • Red says:

    “The fact that you haven’t proven anything he’s said as “false” is just funny”

    That’s all we’ve been doing.

    Here’s one my brother told me yesterday when I showed him the COGwriter article about Ron. He has eyes but cannot see and ears and cannot hear. hmmm ahh DITTO!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Oh sweet sweet Sabbath fire, consuming the holy for lifting their arms or watching TV, or the amorous rubbing of married parts…

    …what a spoil sport Ron is. So much Sabbath and so little to do…

  • Whisper01 says:

    What year is this again? 2000 and uh… 11. Ya, that’s it. When was the U.S. of A to stop being a world Power and be unable to even govern itself? That was 2000 and, oh what was that year? Oh yes, 8. 2000 and 8. This was written in black and white, still is in fact because Ron can’t re-write his own book as the publishers won’t allow such. 2011… 2008. Is there some type of disconnect here? Why is American Govenrment, Military, Economy, and culture still around? The book says it will no be in 2008… it’s 2011 if my calander is a-right. Is this a false prophecy? The math don’t lie brother. Am I mistaken?

  • Red says:

    Hell we don’t have to prove he is false,….he does all by himself just fine. Nothing has happened! If the false prophet shoe fits……just saying!

  • jack635 says:

    Whisper, you are not mistaken, it is 2011. The U.S.A. ceased to exist back in 2008. If you live in the U.S. you do not exist, or you are living a horrible existence under beastly rule.

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    Funny how Ronnies book says NOW is the time God wants to reveal Himself to the World, but then since all the failed prophecies it’s changed to ‘You can’t see unless God calls you’.

    Well, which is it?

    Unless, Joseph could also explain the meaning of the word NOW.

    Mmmmmmm, what a mystery those two words are …. ‘now’ and ‘exactly’.

    I’m dumbfounded – or found in dumb. *dribbles uncontrollably, reaches for straightjacket*

  • jack635 says:

    Kirrily, don’t bother trying to talk to Joeseph. He no longer exists as he has been devoured by the flames that issued from Ron and Laura’s mouths. The only reason they have not burned you for commenting here is because you are not a paid up member of their club.

  • jack635 says:

    “now” and “exactly” mean exactly what Ron wants them to mean now.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Wait a minute! Do I exist? I forget…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    HEY RONALD WEINLAND: Here’s what a REAL Christian looks like. Take notes.

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    Good point Jack! I sure hope those flames don’t come for me! I’ve been hiding under my blanket for too long now……

    Joseph must be gone, by Rons power, just like the rest of them!

    Once Mal finally joins, I guess we won’t hear from him again either, lest he perish.

  • Joeseph says:

    Joseph isn’t gone… it’s just that my comments were deleted by the host of this website…wonder why?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Joeseph, I haven’t deleted any of your comments. I even did a search on the spam trap to see if any of your comments ended up there, and none had.

  • Joeseph says:

    It’s funny how my comments got deleted. Your pride can’t handle a little opposition? Why is it, again, that we so obsessed with a “false prophet”? Too funny… You didn’t mention if you had a Harold Camping website too…just curious if you’re obsession is with all “false prophets” or only with Ron Weinland?

    “The fact that you haven’t proven anything he’s said as “false” is just funny”

    “That’s all we’ve been doing.” LOL! You haven’t invalidated a thing Ron has said…what I see on here is a bunch of inaccuracies and lies. Anything Ron has been “wrong” about he has explained. You people obviously are paying close attention to him…why is that? Obsess much?

    I guess this is just strange coincidence that the EU is splitting into two groups, the strong being a group of 10. HWA explained this in the 20s…and it’s happening now just like Ron said it would…hmmm, how could it be?

    Curious how many of you are in the other COG groups that regurgitate HWA, like a broken record? Didn’t the big one even change it’s name and no longer has God’s name in their “title”? fools

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Joeseph, you’ve already posted that link several days ago. It’s right where it always was.

    And there’s a follow up comment responding to it. But you don’t want to read it, for obvious reasons.

    You accuse me of deleting your posts. But you don’t have eyes to see they’re still there.

    You say I haven’t proven anything Ron said as false. But you don’t have eyes to read the rest of this blog, with two years at this location with at least one post per week.

    Typical PKGer.

    No, I haven’t deleted any of your comments. They say so much more about the PKG mindset than I could.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Joeseph said: “I guess this is just strange coincidence that the EU is splitting into two groups, the strong being a group of 10. HWA explained this in the 20s…and it’s happening now just like Ron said it would…hmmm, how could it be? ”

    Did you even read the article you linked?

    “It will be changed in two very important ways. First, the 27-nation European Union will have fractured into separate groups of 17 and 10. Second, the economies of the Gang of 17 will be centrally managed by a Franco-German coalition, while the nations among the

      10 “leftovers”

    will fight a losing battle to effect the policies of the EU of which they are paid-up members. Peaceful coexistence between the 17 and the 10 is no sure thing.”

    With every comment, you further discredit Ron and PKG. No way I’d want to delete them 😀

  • J says:

    “Didn’t the big one even change it’s name and no longer has God’s name in their “title”? fools”

    The big one changed its name? I assume you’re referring to the United Church of God, as it’s the biggest group out there. The title has never changed, and as you can see, God’s name is still there. In fact, most if not all, COGs have God in the title. You might want to look up what the G in COG means. Perhaps you should research just a little bit before you accuse anyone else of being a fool.

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    I got my hopes up with Joseph, I thought he might finally be the PKG person to finally answer those questions. I guess it’s because he can’t.

    PKG usually disfellowship people like him. You need to be a student UNDER PKG, and leave the teaching to Ron. Jospeh would be reprimanded severely for this high and mighty attitude.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Joseph said: “Anything Ron has been “wrong” about he has explained”.

    Why should the Witness of God have to explain anything? It should be EXACTLY as he says. It hasn’t. He is a false prophet…to an imaginary God.

  • chacha says:

    Hi y’all

    I think Jack635 hit it on the head :”“now” and “exactly” mean exactly what Ron wants them to mean now.”

    It seems to fit. All revealed prophecy will be revealed AFTER it happened EXACTLY as Ron says and when it fit with what he said…with a bit of “maneuvering room” (because God needs room to maneuver his timing after all….)


    Yes Avalo, you exist…in the land of whipped cream bicycles and Strawberry hats…(can I come visit? Sounds nicer than where I am…the land of nonsense and confusion…)

    I am ducking the flames for the time being….

  • Ari says:

    I don’t know if Jesus will return on May 27,2012 like Ron says but I believe we are close.Even world leaders are talking about an economic collapse and a depression.The signs are around us,the weather is acting up,natural disasters are increasing,economic turmoil,wallstreet riots,middle east turmoil with arab nations threatening war against israel,the fight for dividing Jerusalem,which God says whomever try to divide jerusalem they will be cut into pieces,and utterly destroyed.There is talk of comets coming close to earth with rumors of meteorites falling in some cities this month.Earthquakes are increasing,and we are starting to see earthquakes in extremely rare places,unheard of places.There is record breaking droughts,flooding,fires in 2011 alone.A dozen volcanoes have started to become active,with some already spewing ash.Rare diseases and drug resistant diseases are starting to sprout in various places.Immorality is at an all time high.I know that I am praying and on watch just like Jesus instructed us to do when the end of the age is near,and with all these signs and more and more signs of doom on all fronts tells me that we are in the endtimes,and that time is short.There is so much endtimes news that I have not listed,it is just so much,with everything going on in this world and at an incredible rate I just don’t see how much longer this world can go on as it is,and it’s not.Jesus also told us not to let no man deceive you
    and to be aware of false prophets,I’m not saying that Ron is a false prophet because he does make alot of sense,in his book he talks about how people won’t believe him and that he is who he says or he is a raving lunatic,you also don’t see him all over mainstream news channels like alot of people like Harold Camping etc,whatever the case is we should have an open mind and no matter what happens or don’t happen you should ALWAYS stay close and continue to walk close with the LORD at all times,and that is the safest and the best way to be.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ari, did you you read the last page of his book “2008 — God’s Final Witness”. Is it more than 6 months after the fall of 2008? Is the US still an independent nation?

    Bad stuff is happening, and has always happened. Maybe tomorrow will bring total economic collapse. That would not mean anything religious would happen.

  • JP says:

    Ari says: “Immorality is at an all time high.”

    So, lots of people will never die?

    One thing is sure; living your life as well as you can everyday is a good way to live, regardless of when it ends for you. That has nothing to so with “end times”.

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    It’s been the end times since Jesus was risen.


    Funny how some people see gloom and doom in everything. There have been MANY other times in history where things were much worse.

    Ari, both the Bible and Ron himself tells us he is false.


  • Ari says:

    I don’t care what anyone says I believe what I believe and no one is making me change my me stupid,call me crazy or whatever,I’m not on here to respond to anyone on here about my thoughts,I said what I had to say and if anyone doesn’t like it oh well,keep your negative comments to yourself.I wasn’t going to post on here and maybe I shouldn’t have,just because I don’t agree with you and your beliefs,don’t try to make me a certain way or agree with you,I am my own person.To JP I said immorality is at an all time high,not immortality..immortality means you never die,anyway I said what I had to say.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    “I’m not on here to respond to anyone on here about my thoughts”

    Talk about a oxymoronic statement.

  • Ari says:

    Mike,for your information I was typing super fast, typed here twice when I shouldn’t have, oxymoronic?wow…really?couldn’t find anything better to say? really took the time to post about an error I made..whatever,that is funny to me.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    You don;t care what anyone says? You seem to care what Mike (DDTFA) says. In fact you sound rather snarky about what Mike said. For someone so “sure” of what they say, you certainly don;t sound very cetain if you refuse to discuss or debate your opinion. Not responding to or considering other people’s opinions is a sure sign of un-certainty…

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    And you yourself said “whatever the case is we should have an open mind”. You have an “open mind” about your opinion only and expect us to have an “open mind” about your opinion. But where is your open mind about my opinion? I am an atheist and believe your God (Yahweh) is imaginary.

    Will you keep an open mind about that?

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    No Ava, he won’t.

    Ari likes believing lies.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Amazing isn’t it how the devout are so “sure” of themselves whenever someone tells them something they like vs. something that is empirically TRUE…

  • chacha says:

    Wow…I thought I was confused. lol

    Typing “superfast” doesn’t change that fact that you said you are keeping an open mind to the things you agree with. (WOW!) But I don’t want anyone to disagree with me…because then you are “trying to change me”.
    So WTF then? WHY did you even post anything?

    I am looking for some discussion…different points of view. I don’t come on here expecting everyone to say “WOW! YOU are SOOOO profound!” If I am looking for that, I can start my own “splinter group” and worship green bunnies. I don’t agree with everything everyone says…but THAT’S the POINT. I DON’T HAVE TO!

    Sounds like another one of those “seagulls” again……*splat*

  • ARI says:

    Yes,I said WOW so what…anyway I’m a lover not a fighter and I wish I didn’t post anything,just because I don’t agree with what you’re saying I’m an outcast,funny how all of a sudden this post has become the attack ari post,guess you all are forgetting this site is to “expose”Ron Weinland as a false prophet..,yes I did say “superfast”so what!!


    {redacted the rest of ARI’s rant as it continued to shout in ALL CAPS!!}

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Yes, Ari. You do a _lot_ of fast typing.


  • ari says:

    One last thing,it’s funny how you deleted the most important part of my”rant”you should have deleted it all,I wasn’t shouting I was writing it the way I would speak it,which is boldly.Since you deleted it let me write it again,I said I know God loves me and I love him,at the end of the day He is the only one I answer to.I live a pure and obedient life,I give to the needy as much as I can.He knows our hearts,he knows that I genuinely and faithfully serve him and only Him.I will continue to pray for everyone,even my enemies,God tells us to love our enemies and pray for each other,and that’s what I’ll continue to do.The world would be a much better place if we all showed love,compassion,kindness,to one another,but there will be a time in the future when that will be a reality..God Speed that time.Bye.

  • chacha says:

    god loves us all.

    🙂 got it.

    all better now.

  • ari says:

    Yep he sure does..bye

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    LMAO!!! Ari you are a classic.

    Looks like we have to also learn the true meaning of ‘never post again’.

    PKG seem to have a secret understanding of the English language. The word list of secret meanings is growing:-

    * Now
    * Exactly


    * If by Pentecost…. I will stop preaching (Ron didn’t)
    * I will never post here again ( Ari did)

    My brain hurts.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Interesting. Being asked to prove God exists or God is real is an “attack”. Being asked to explain how one can know God is an “attack”. Coming to a website devoted to opposing a false prophet and saying he is correct, then being called out out on that opinion is an “attack”!

    Seriously, I truly wonder if there is a correlation between the religious and low IQs…

  • chacha says:


    I think it is OBVIOUS that we don’t know the meaning of “never”.


    Those of us WITH brains…yeah…it hurts.