What Are You Smoking?

False Prophet Ronald Weinland delivered this weekend’s sermon from the UK, making a quick trip there sandwiched between two weekends in the Netherlands.  Gijs Van Lerberghe of the Netherlands tagged along and delivered one of the prayers, which is a bit unusual as I expected that his long time UK member and elder Philip Burman would have given one of the prayers.  Hmmm.  Has there be a further diminishment in the ranks of Ron’s UK elders, with the first being Benjamin who was defrocked for not giving up his Facebook page.  Ron wondered whether he would be back in the UK next year at this time.  I think there’s an outstanding chance that he will be, just not as a spirit being.

Ron concluded his sermon series on the significance of Pentecost.  He started off with a prophecy riff from the headlines.  Well, Ron:  There could be a total global economic collapse this week triggered by the Greek debt situation, and an intense earthquake could devastate the Tennessee River valley.  But you would still be a false prophet.  With less than a year remaining in the 1260 days of your alleged prophecy, we have not seen:

  • The death of 1/3 of all vegetation as the result of the first trumpet.
  • Any “nukular” explosions in US port cities
  • The downfall of the United States despite being well past the deadline given in your holy book “2008 — God’s Final Witness”
  • Any evidence that the Asiatic hordes are mobilizing to do battle in the Valley of Megiddo, despite being well within a year, a month, a day and an hour alloted for that preparation
  • Any water turned to blood
  • Any fulfillment of your own defined test as proving yourself as a prophet of God, that being the death of 5 specific ministers
  • Nor any result from any other specific prophecy

Nor have the two witnesses breathed any fire on anyone trying to hurt them, not even the spiritual kind of death you came up with.  At least not for me, with improvement in my cholesterol numbers due to healthier habits and improvement in my personal life.

19 Comments

  • J says:

    If only we could all receive death curses from RW. We’d all be supermen.

  • Mark says:

    “Ron wondered whether he would be back in the UK next year at this time.”

    This comment alone should make people realize he is a fraud.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ron meant that he would be a spirit being manifesting himself in human form for a personal appearance before his adulating members. I expect it will happen except that manifesting won’t be necessary.

  • jack635 says:

    I give this post an A+

    The facts speak louder than any words we can type. It is June 2011 and nothing has happened. It may seem like there are more disasters, but this is perceived because in this age of computers and internet the news is delivered instantly from all over the world. When we were kids we would hear about the occasional earthquake on the news or in a newspaper, but there are so many news sources today they are ravenous to report every little incident that is newsworthy. There is nothing new under the sun.

  • randy terlecki says:

    I wish this blog had a (like button) i would click it on all of the above!

  • Mark says:

    That’s just what we would need- Ron coming back to bore the pants off the mere mortals left alive. That truly would be hell on earth.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    1. Isn’t it interesting how Ron continues to totally AVOID the fact that Mike (DDTFA) is thriving considering that the cursed opponents dying speedily is Ron’s first major act as a Witness!

    2. Ron’s opening-prayer-givers at any one of his gatherings thank “God” for Ron’s “truth” as well as asking for continuing guidance from God through Ron. I find that to be COMPLETELY despicable on both their parts for playing this charade this far now that we have seen Ron in “Witness” mode for this long.

  • Atrocious says:

    Idol worship at it’s finest.

  • Baywolfe says:

    Aval. What is more interesting is that Ron would think he has the right and privilege to curse Mike in the first place.

    The Old Testament has ruined Christianity from the very start. How different it would be if every nut-job preacher didn’t think he was Jeremiah or Elijah. Yeah, we’d probably have a lot more Jesuses (Jesusi?) walking around proclaiming their Second Coming, but they’d have to perform real miracles to get any credence.

  • jack635 says:

    Baywolfe,

    We should call them Jesii. And there are a hell of a lot of Jesii walking around, we don’t need anymore.

    And I agree with “they’d have to perform real miracles to get any credence.” Let’s see any minister heal a man who can’t walk. No, there are already lot’s of those kind of “miracles”.

  • Baywolfe says:

    Let any minister, any person, restore a complete limb to an amputee.

    And do it in through the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, so there’s no chance of trickery.

    Then I believe in miracles.

  • Mark says:

    “Then I believe in miracles.”

    Actually, then you would believe in God. Faith, though, doesn’t have a prerequisite of witnessing a miracle. I’ve never witnessed a miracle, yet I believe. Actually, I’ve seen many people put their faith in God to heal them and avoid medical treatment, only to have them die. Sad really.

    I’m also quite sure there are lots of amputees who are faithful Christians.

  • Excogger says:

    Hi all
    Just my 2 cents: Many years ago one night I developed sinusitis, with excruciating facial pain. No drugs available. Worst pain I ever experienced. In desperation I cried out to God to take the pain away, and in less than 2 seconds I was completely free from pain, and it did not return that winter. Big miracle for a young man.

  • jack635 says:

    Sinus pain is caused by blockages here and there. Talking out loud can actually clear those canals. So it wasn’t a miracle, but it could seem like a miracle.

  • Baywolfe says:

    I’m also quite sure there are lots of amputees who are faithful Christians.

    So were a lot of Nazis. This is a logical fallacy called “Appeal to Probability”.

    Actually, then you would believe in God.

    Actually no, then I would believe in miracles, like I said. Miracles, even if they were real, by themselves do not prove the existence of god. For all we know, each one of us has the power to perform miracles. What if an Atheist performs a miracle?

  • Mark says:

    What do Nazis have to do with amputees? Your argument makes no sense.

    I am going to stick with commenting on Weinland, not on the ramblings of atheists.

  • Baywolfe says:

    I am going to stick with commenting on Weinland, not on the ramblings of atheists.

    Yeah, good choice. After all, it’s easy to dog-pile on Ron, isn’t it? He’s even nutty by HWA’s standards. And plenty people here will pat you on the back for doing so.

    I left the WCG and never looked back, so I wasn’t one of the unfortunates that got swept up in the splinter movements. What I did do is examine my christian beliefs for the first time in my life. I mean critically examine, not just find another church’s list of “proof texts” to tell me what I should believe. Since the Bible makes some extraordinary claims I went looking for extraordinary evidence. I couldn’t find any.

    Look I couldn’t care less what RW says or does. The real point of my posts is to challenge christians to examine what they believe and why they believe it. How many former WCG members are still christians even though they “proved” that all other christian faiths were false and the daughters of “The Whore of Babylon”? The reason is either they moved to the new “True Church” or generally, is it’s easier to stick with the familiar instead of mapping unknown territory.

  • Mark says:

    “I left the WCG and never looked back, so I wasn’t one of the unfortunates that got swept up in the splinter movements.”

    Me too.

    “What I did do is examine my christian beliefs for the first time in my life.”

    Me too.

    “I mean critically examine, not just find another church’s list of “proof texts” to tell me what I should believe.”

    Me too.

    “Since the Bible makes some extraordinary claims I went looking for extraordinary evidence.”

    Me too.

    “I couldn’t find any.”

    I did. His name is Jesus.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I’m going to shut the thread down as it’s straying off the topic of the blog. Baywolfe, if you want to challenge Christians, then why not start your own blog? I’ll send you a link. Maybe you and Avalo could team up and share one. If Mark encountered Jesus in a burning bush or he came to him in a vision or whatever, we’ll just leave it at that.