The Lost End

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was in Denver this weekend, speaking before members from Colorado and adjacent states.  Augmenting the attendance was a visitor from the Netherlands who needed Mieke Van Lerberghe to transcribe the sermon to Dutch for him.  The Dutch visitor lost the end the of the sermon along with the rest of us, as the internet connection went down about 20 minutes before the normal ending time.  This happened despite Ralph Dowd traveling all the way from Cincinnati to ask in the opening prayer that God watch over the connection.

Since the sermon MP3 was not posted on the PKG website yesterday evening as is the usual case, and still isn’t posted as I write this post, perhaps Ron experienced a crash on the laptop he uses to broadcast and record the sermon.  Ron, since God obviously doesn’t care about your blatherings enough to prevent technical problems, let me suggest that you instead rely on backup equipment to record your nonsense for posterity.  In the meantime, PKG members looking for the latest pronouncements from their spiritual idol and those looking for something to put them to sleep can listen to the portion broadcast before the technical failure by downloading this 24 MB file (right-click the link and Save-As) provided as a service from this website.  I promise, I haven’t changed a word of Ron’s ranting.  I couldn’t make it any worse.

It seems that Ron reads my website, apparently referring during the sermon to a comment I left in my last posting:

As far as PKG having biblical students, forget about it. Weinland has told them they don’t know how to interpret the Bible, and need to listen to his sermons and read his website. The Bible is only to be used in conjunction with Ron’s interpretations.

In this clip from yesterday’s sermon, Ron accuses me of twisting and distorting.

I invite you to decide for yourself if I’m twisting and distorting.  We have Ron’s statement earlier in the in the same sermon:

And we have the following clip from his sermon of November 6:
Ron said that people who’ve left PKG are cursed. I don’t think that Kirrily would agree. And I doubt that senior elder Dave Conley’s stepdaughter who left PKG and is moving on with her life would agree.

Update Nov 29: The sermon has been posted on the PKG website.  Seems to be a bit shorter than the version I posted.  I wonder what the differences are.



  • J says:

    Reading content on a website is not a requirement for salvation. It’s all there in the Bible, not outside sources.

    Revelation 22:18-19

    For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    PKG has seemed rather plagued lately, hasn’t it?

  • Steve says:

    “This happened despite Ralph Dowd traveling all the way from Cincinnati to ask in the opening prayer that God watch over the connection.”
    lol…it seems to be the modus operandi of Rons God from the very start to do the total opposite of what he is supposed to do.

    “It seems that Ron reads my website, apparently referring during the sermon to a comment I left in my last posting”
    No surprise there. Rons motto is “Do as i say, not as i do”

    “Ron said that people who’ve left PKG are cursed”
    That was lame ron…very lame attempt.

  • Mark says:

    Ron doesn’t get it. Understanding the Bible isn’t a spiritual thing. Believing what it says is! Many read (or have been taught it) and still don’t believe!
    Now, you need Ron to explain his own private interpretation of the Bible.
    “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.”

  • jack635 says:

    “Ron said that people who’ve left PKG are cursed”

    Ron just had appendicitis. Ron has announced 5-10 of his elders/members who have died or become ill in the last year. Mike is alive and speedily commenting on Ron’s deceptions. The members who have left Ron seem to be in good health and living a happy life once again.

    Seems to me that the only people being “cursed” are Ron and his followers.

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    Well if the life I’m living now is cursed – it’s AWESOME!!

  • Atrocious says:

    Amazing! Amazing how he talks out of both sides of his mouth! Mike, I would believe you over him any day!

  • jack635 says:

    K: Yet Prophet Apostle Elijah to come Ron, continues to curse your awesome LIFE! The reason he is cursing is because he has lost his grip on your freedom…….and your bank account.

    Rejoice in thy freedom. Just remember after being full as a boot, to take two aspirins in the morning. hee hee.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I guessI misinterpreted the part about “Judge not…”, and “love thine enemies”. Clearly, I am supposed to be hating Ron-mockers and wishing death upon them…AS CHRIST CLEARLY would have done if he was around today.

  • James says:

    Ron, another false money grubbing false prophet of doom who stands between people of faith and God.

    Deut 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die….If the IRS don’t jail him first.

  • matt says:

    I’m not so sure Mike… sometimes, after a particularly fierce Indian curry and a few beers, I feel the burning hollowness of my spiritually dismal existence. Usually the next morning, after my first cup of coffee.

  • Whisper says:

    Ron says “Duh!” to others decrying his written/verbal attempt to send people to read his books and website over the Bible?
    That’s gutsy, most false prophets and such attempt to soft peddle this aspect and state that they are declairing God’s will of the Bible instead of supplanting it. Most attempt to upgrade the Bible in the readers mind and then slowly re-interpret the words to change the minds of those listening/reading, Ron on the other hand states it flat-out: my words are greater than the bible as they are Gods revelations to Man during the End time that we are in.

    So Ron has scraped Herbie and taken his crowns, decryed his fellow splinter-cell leaders, cursed his mockers, layed down the Bible as it is the “old” word of God, Elevated his own words as the “new” word of God, taken on titles, given himself powers, fleeced his flock, broken the law (IRS), downgraded Jesus to being “born” and not being eternal, and taken Gods word in the vain attempt to glorify himself.

    Woof! The man is a “one-man” sinning machine! Many can do a pretty bang up job in sinning if they don’t even try, but Ron takes it to a whole new level. Is he trying to win a race for greatest sinner ever? If so he’s doing rather well.

    Go figure?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Man, Ron claims to be a Christian and yet downgrades Jesus? That’s like poop downgrading food!

  • JB says:

    Let’s see, no one can understand the bible, only Ron can teach it correctly!!! Is there a title for that? Yes, I guess there is but I am a nice person and don’t use that kind of language. Whisper you are correct, Ron is winning the race for the greatest sinner ever.

  • Atrocious says:

    I can’t stand listening to his voice. He is so plucking arrogant and haughty…his voice drips with sarcasm. It grates on me like fingernails on a chalkboard. He’s a real anal cavity who thinks he’s god. What a hoity-toity piece of doggy doo-doo.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Forget “God’s End-Timne Witness”. Ron thinks to change dates and times, a mark of the Anti-Christ. I like to think of him as the Contradicting Underlord of the New Testament…(C. *. *. T.) for short.

  • Baywolfe says:

    Thank God, I’m an Atheist!

  • Baywolfe says:

    Oh, and to return to an earlier topic. In the interests of fairness, here is the 2010 Atlantic Hurricane Scorecard from Colorado State University (An unusual place to study Hurricanes, don’t you think?) As you can see, the “end-time” prophets at CSU were very accurate with their “prophecies”. They were, however, surprised that no Hurricanes made landfall on the U.S. coastline. That must be god giving Ron some more time for some reason. Maybe god is withdrawing his punishment for a “time”.

    2010 Hurricane Summary
    Hurricane activity in the Atlantic basin was rather high in 2010, due to developing La Niña conditions, the tropical and North Atlantic sea surface temperatures reaching near-record warm levels, and the tropical Atlantic registering consistently low sea level pressures. The combination of these factors were conducive to an above-average Atlantic hurricane season. Five major hurricanes formed in 2010, which is 217% of the average number of storms recorded between 1950 and 2000.

    Forecast Parameter (1950-2000 Climatology) 4 August 2010 Forecast (Total Observed 2010)
    Named tropical storms (9.6) 18 (19)
    Named tropical storm days (49.1) 90 (88.25)
    Hurricanes (5.9) 10 (12)
    Hurricane days (24.5) 40 (37.5)
    Major hurricanes (2.3) 5 (5)
    Major hurricane days (5) 13 (11)
    Net tropical cyclone activity (100%) 195% (195)

    Note: Forecasts cover the Atlantic Basin—the area encompassing the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea, and Gulf of Mexico. See up-to-the-moment weather maps at The National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration.

    Hurricane Landfall
    Although there were twelve hurricanes in the Atlantic basin this year, none made landfall on the U.S. coastline. This is very unusual. Typically, in years with at least ten hurricanes, at least two make landfall. For the past five years, the U.S. has not experienced a major hurricane landfall. The 2004-2005 season saw seven major hurricane landfalls.

    One tropical storm (Bonnie) made landfall in 2010.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Given Ron’s record of prophecy fulfillment, I wish there was some way I could induce him to prophesy that I would never ever win the lottery 😀

  • J says:

    I think Avalokiteshvara needs to be put on a leash.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    As long as its a studded leash, and I am being led around a soft, sexy bedroom by Sandra Oh…

  • Martin Ortiz says:

    while I do believe in bible prophecy….

    God makes liars of false prophets…
    First Ron thinks 1/3 of plants will die
    Then Ron decides to postpone that
    Then that doesn’t pan out
    Then Ron decides the 1/3 of all “green” refers to money (at onset of Recession)
    Then that doesn’t pan out

    Ron should review his own material.

  • Atrocious says:

    Listening to Ron ramble during those clips, he doesn’t really think about what he is saying, or if he is contradicting himself – he just talks off the top of his head anything that comes through his throat and over his tongue. He has absolutely NO idea what he is talking about. Ron the Rambler.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Martin’s comment (2nd one before this one) is timely. Ron said that he gets new revelations reading his own books. He ought to read the last one, on page 118:
    When we are told that a third of all plant life will be destroyed, that is exactly what it means.

    It’s interesting to download the PDF of his book, then do a text search on “exactly”.

  • Karen Mustard says:

    If folks can’t understand God’s word, why did God leave us his Holy Spirit….? Wow! How blind, deaf and dumb can one guy be!?!