A Curious Development


In the past, I’ve noted that Ronald Weinland has been paying the property tax on their $381,000 home on a golf course directly to the county where he lives, instead of via a tax impound fund through their mortgage company as do most people.  Taxes are due November 1, and Audra’s property taxes were paid on time by her mortgage company.  (Click the small picture for a larger version of her property tax payment report).

When I looked for Ron’s property tax payment report this year I got a bit of a surprise. He did not pay the property taxes directly this year as he has in the past years.  But neither were the taxes paid by a mortgage company.  Instead, they were paid by the law firm of Adams, Stepner, Woltermann & Dusing.  According to their website, they specialize in personal injury, business law, commercial banking, civil litigation, divorce, government practice, family law, as well as estate planning.  Their “government practice” represents government entities in matters of civil nature.

However digging a bit deeper, they practice in another area of the law:

Criminal Defense
We understand the importance of excellent representation in this area of law. We offer extensive knowledge and efficincy in dealings in Ohio and Kentucky for all matters relating to criminal defense including traffic and DUI charges, misdemeanors and felonies.

As long time readers of my blog are aware, Ron Weinland has been under criminal investigation by the IRS beginning in 2008.  This doesn’t seem quite like the law firm to defend that type of case.  So I wonder if he is involved in some other legal matter.  I’m not considering divorce as a possibility, as he and Laura have some kind of weird symbiosis going.

Weinland has posted an itinerary on his blog for trips through the end of April, including another trip “down under” to New Zealand and Australia.  Also a side trip in December to Corpus Christi, Texas which is where Laura grew up.  So he won’t be getting in an extra trip this year to Europe other than his usual Pentecost trip.  But he does expect to be able to travel internationally next year.

I’m trying to figure out if having a law firm pay the property taxes on his house could be part of some legal strategy.  The fact that they paid it 3 days late incurring a $79 penalty doesn’t speak well to their “efficincy” 😉 If anyone has any thoughts as to the significance of this development, please post a comment.

28 Comments

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Normal tax payment schemes don’t need the help of any or all lawyers. The IRS and indeed any country’s tax systems may be complicated, but they are not so labyrinthine that the office of “Dewey, Cheatham and Howe” needs to be involved. Something is WRONG here. I don’t know what, but rest assured, this is not the behaviour of any/all HOLY people.

  • Whisper says:

    Paying taxes on a home is EASY. They send you a bill, and you pay it, rinse – lather – repeat next year.
    Now if your attempting to gain every last penny you can then you invent uses for a property that will abate the taxes on it. This process is pretty cut and dry as well, any accountant can go through this while he/she is half asleep.
    But a lawyer? That’s some HIGh PRICED accountant ability right there. Equal or less quality for 5 times the price.
    Ron doing things behind the backs of his sheeples? Nah, never happen. Gods Apostle is much to prim and upright for that.

    Go figure?

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    Maybe he is claiming his massive spa bath as a baptizing facility?

  • jan says:

    Perhaps he has carefully arranged his affairs to minimize any impact from the IRS in anticipation of what they may do. . . . looking out for The Witnesses. . . .

  • Atrocious says:

    For once I’m not going to say anything – I guess ’cause I don’t know anything about taxes and all that stuff. But I do find it odd that a lawyer is hired to pay the taxes. Ooops, I said I wasn’t gonna say anything. My bad!

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    I can’t imagine why someone would hire a lawyer to pay taxes in anticipation of actions by the IRS, ergo something legal is REQUIRED, barring some kind of tax error over property requiring that a legal entity manages or oversees the rectification of such an error. We all make mistakes, and RW does travel and collect tithes. BUT tithes are non-taxed charitable donations, so something would seem to be wrong.

    For a divinely inspired representative of the Almighty God who created the Universe, this would seem rather human and ungodly, even if only in appearance.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Here’s a thought. I wonder if Ron and Laura are getting a legal divorce to protect their property from the IRS.

  • JB says:

    I would say that something strange is in the wind, after all the cold winds of Winter are starting to blow in the US. The warm fuzzies that Ronnie and Laura have enjoyed may turn to ice.

  • J says:

    It’s a shame that information and irregularities like this will never be known by PKG members. Even if you were to shout it in their faces, they’ll dismiss it as Satanic lies. Oh well.

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    Do all property owners in the USA pay property tax? In Australia property owners pay ‘Rates’ which is to fund local public facilities, rubbish collection etc. Is the USA ‘Property Tax’ for the same such purpose?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Ah but J, they CAN’T ignore activities INSTIGATED by Ron and Laura in secret. Mike is lifting the rock on them and pointing out that R/L can be publicly tracked without Ron watching over their shoulder. They may profess allegiance to Ron to his face, but there is NOTHING stopping them from secretly, out of curiosity, to look up what the “doubters” say. True, no one will listen to things being shouted in their faces. BUT private searches on the Internet silently speak the truth of the report above.

  • Kirrily Xpkg says:

    When I was in Ronnie and his Wench’s cult, Nathan (another member in our group) said he used to look at this very blog. I of course dobbed on him and told Wayne straight away. Wayne soon set Nathan straight. Nathan then stopped reading this blog.

    If he hadn’t have married Sharna, I believe Nathan would have left PKG by now. But Sharna will never leave, even with the non event of Jesus non return. Nathan will stick with her is my bet.

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Sounds like, based on your analysis of their relationship, he shouldn’t have married her in the first place if she can stick with Ronald Weinland under ANY circumstances.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    In the US we pay lots of taxes. Property tax on our homes is used to fund schools, fire department, city and county government with a share forwarded on to the state. My city provides water, sewer, and trash pickup for which I pay a monthly fee like a utility. Then there are sales taxes split between the city and the state. And I pay income taxes to the state and another set to the federal government.

    I believe that PKG members do read my blog. Even high-ranking elders. But I don’t think it affects most of them, they find a way to justify or minimize what I have. It’s unfortunate that I can’t directly link the county web site for Ron’s property tax since it has his address. But PKG members who already have his address can dig this information up with a few well-directed Google searches. But probably most will not.

  • TODD says:

    FORECLOSURE? ASSET SEIZURE? NOT SURE IF EITHER ONE OF THESE COULD BE POSSIBLE TO REQUIRE A LAWYER TO PAY THE TAXES.

  • Charlie says:

    Kirrily, I’m not sure what state Mike lives in but his description of property taxes is pretty much right on the money (Tax structure can vary state to state). I happen to live in a townhome community so we pay ‘association dues’ on top of all the other taxes and fees.

    I can think of at least one reason why a law firm is paying the property taxes though. Since Audra is their personal accountant as well as the COG-PKG accountant and she is also named in the IRS investigation, the tax payment monies may be placed in an escrow account and paid by their law firm until the investigation is complete. Also, does anyone know if the house is owned by the church corporate entity or personally by the witless one?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Charlie, let me clarify a few points you made. While Audra was named in the investigation, as far as I know it was only as an information source. She was directed in a court proceeding a year ago to provide information required by the IRS investigating Daddy unless it would incriminate her. That said, it would not surprise me that she is an investigation target herself though I think it more probable that she is not. Since IRS investigations are confidential, we’ wouldn’t ordinarily know whether she is or isn’t a target.

    I don’t think that Audra is Daddy’s personal accountant. Her role as “personal assistant” probably is for church matters, arranging his travels. She probably is the person who made the arrangements for the ministerial meetings held at the Venetian Resort Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas.

    According to the county website I pictured, Ron and Laura’s house is in their name. I wonder why they did that rather that putting it as a “parsonage” in their church’s name for more tax breaks.

    The more I think about it, the more I’m considering the possibility that Ron and Laura are getting a legal divorce and that she will end up with the property in the divorce settlement. They wouldn’t really split up but would continue living together, the divorce would be legal and not ecclesiastical so they wouldn’t be living “in sin”.

  • J says:

    If they were to divorce for the explicit purpose of shielding assets from IRS collectors, wouldn’t that constitute tax fraud? It wouldn’t be a *real* divorce where they split the assets and go on their separate ways. They’d still both be in the house, enjoying money from the same pool. That’s akin to moving one’s assets to the Cayman Islands or something.

    Common-law marriages are not enforceable in Ohio. Could that be relevant?

  • Debbie says:

    Since the law firm handles “all matters relating to criminal defense including traffic and DUI charges, misdemeanors and felonies.”

    I can’t help but wonder if it is a traffice related issue – I have seen Ronnie drive – quite reckless when you include his travelling @ speeds in excess of the limit and dodging in & out of lanes – he may have been involved in an accident or stopped on the highway for speed and dangerous driving techniques

    Time will tell 🙂

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Why would Laura divorce Ron for any other reason than criminal? She has been his silent partner in crime and I doubt she would want to give up the money train for real. That being said, it would be kind of funny if this thing happened to be something ordinary and non-criminal. Then we would all look like a bunch of mini-Rons for getting all our “prophecies” wrong! LOL!

  • Mark says:

    If you are a member of his church and make $39,547 a year, your ENTIRE year’s tithe went to pay property taxes on his mansion. Think about that for a moment. In the meantime, Ron Weinland thanks you from the bottom of his lying heart.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Here’s my thinking. If the IRS has a slam dunk case, then there are back taxes, fines, and penalties in Ron’s future. Even if he doesn’t end up in prison, he ends up on the street if he doesn’t have the green to pay it off. And Laura ends up on the street with him. OTOH, if Ron has no assets because his wench took them away from him in a divorce, then the IRS can pound sand and Laura can take pity on the poor spokesman witness and give him some shelter.

    I also like Debbie’s idea.

    But you are right about one thing — our speculations will be spun as accusations, lying, twisting and distorting. Ron, how about telling us the real story?

  • J says:

    Best case scenario:

    Members of PKG each receive letters from the IRS informing them that their tithes are being garnished 50%. 🙂

  • Debbie says:

    Just wondering – Are those tidy sums in the Swedish Bank Account protected ? or can the long arm of the IRS reach there as well ?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I don’t think Ron could protect Swiss bank accounts by this maneuver, whatever it is. And if he hasn’t reported their existence, the penalties and fines are quite substantial.

    In December of 2008, Ron claimed he was bringing those funds to the US to spend on Google advertising. Maybe he really did that as a legal maneuver to substantiate his claim that it was really the church’s money even though he had the accounts titled in his name. What do you think?

  • Avalokiteshvara says:

    Whatever is going on, no one doing ordinary everyday business would need lawyers to pay taxes unless something is going on. When things “go on” with “holy” people, you know they mostly end badly. This guy thinks God rubs his back for him. Of course he needs lawyers!

  • microdee says:

    Mike,

    What’s been happening with this case? Just wondering.

  • midget58 says:

    Noticing that Audra is going by Weinland. Is she still married to Chris?