Weinland One-Ups Herbie, Again

Thursday is the opening day of the Feast of Tabernacles during which False Prophet and Son of Perdition Ronald Weinland continues with his signs and lying wonders by rolling out another 4 new “truths”.  It’s been mildly interesting speculating what these new “truths” might be.  The following which appeared in the past few days on the PKG website could hold some clues:

The Rest of… Mystery of the Ages

The addition of four new truths revealed during the 2010 Feast of Tabernacles will complete the Mystery of the Ages initially revealed through Herbert W. Armstrong. The publication reveals the rest of that story.
*These new truths will be posted throughout the Feast after each one is covered in a sermon.

Contents
Chapter 1: The Completion of Mystery of the Ages
Chapter 2: History of the Spirit Realm
Chapter 3: Creation of Evil
Chapter 4: The Creation of Elohim

(Right now the site has hotlinks for the chapter titles which are dead-ended.  They’re placeholders so web-unsavvy Weinland can simply upload the files after introducing them in his sermons.) From the chapter list, we see that God created evil before he started creating Elohim, the God family.  Weinland teaches that Jesus, the second member of Elohim, did not exist prior to being born to Mary.

On another of Weinland’s flock of websites is the following:

MYSTERY OF THE AGES

This book is the compilation of the ministry of Herbert W. Armstrong. It was written to explain the plan of God in an easy-to-read format and also serve as a textbook at Ambassador College. No other book written in the previous 1900 years so succinctly covered the truth of the Bible.

“Mystery of the Ages” is one of the last pieces of literature written by False Prophet Herbert Armstrong before his death.  Currently the copyright is owned by Gerald Flurry’s Philadelphia CoG following an epic court battle with WCG which concluded with a negotiated sale.  The Philadephia CoG publishes this holy work but somehow I doubt that future editions will include Ron’s holy supplement.

On the COG-PKG website it says:

The Living Church of God, under the leadership of Roderick Meredith, is also asleep spiritually. Roderick C. Meredith is guilty in his failure to acknowledge Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong as the prophesied Elijah to come, who would restore all things to God’s true Church.

Yet elsewhere on the same COG-PKG site it says:

39 (18) Herbert W. Armstrong was a “type” of the prophesied “Elijah to come,” as he restored all truth essential to salvation to the Church of God during the Philadelphia Era.

Perhaps one of the new truths revealed over the next week will be that this blog, along with Dill Weed’s and Jack’s, is operated by Satan himself. As evidence of that notion is that it continues on despite Weinland’s curse for a speedy death issued in December of 2008. A death curse would be ineffective against Satan since he has to be around at the 100-year period following the Millennium to be cast into the Lake of Fire just ahead of Weinland’s mockers  suffering their second deaths. 😀

Any other guesses as to what the new “truths” are that Weinland will dazzle the Flavor Aid drinkers with?

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21 Comments

  • Atrocious says:

    Oh sheesh! This man is getting weirder and weirder. He is definitely insane. I think he really does think he’s a god. It will be interesting, to say the least. You’ve got your work cut out for you, Mike.

  • matt says:

    wow. it is in the air isn’t it? Can you smell the ultimate chutzpah? The Elohim? I reckon there are going to be 2 additions to the god family. I agree with Atrcious – I think he is going to go ahead and claim to be jezus’s little brother. There is one thing you can say about ron – the man’s ego never fails to amuse. The logical conclusion is that eventually, he will claim to be christ himself.

    what does Elohim mean exactly in the context of Armstrongism? In the Torah it just seems to be a word for god – including pagan gods.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Funny you should talk about Ronnie’s being Jesus’ little brother. He already claimed that when he wrote to Moses Znaimer.

    Elohim according to Weinland is the God family his followers are going to join. Actually, only Ron and Laura have a guarantee, and the rest have to be good little boys and girls or they’ll lose out.

  • matt says:

    Ahhhh ok – not quite the dead giveaway I thought it was then. I do hope you get a mention in the Creation of Evil bit. Anyway, which blog software does satan use? He is bound to be a lot more tech-savvy than the other side 🙂

  • JB says:

    For sure it will be entertaining and designed to boost Ronnies ego and hang on to the little flock.

  • Atrocious says:

    I remember in the old days of WCG in the opening and closing prayers, the pray-er would say, “in the name and by the authority of our Elder Brother, Jesus Christ…” so I feel that they were supposed to have a “sibling relationship” with Christ. Maybe Ron has taken it a step further and made it a physical thing and not just a spiritual thing. Who knows how Ron thinks. He’s crazy.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    This blog is run by WordPress, and I’m pretty sure that the false prophet’s blog is WordPress too. But IMO I’ve configured it better than Ron’s is.

    My old blog location was on blogspot, and so are Dill Weed’s and Jack’s blogs. Thielogical Bob also posts about Weinland, for example this recent post. I think Bob uses WordPress.

  • Whisper says:

    The rest of the story? Mr. Harvey, are you out there still?
    A whole brand new false truth dedicated to a book written by some “type” of Elijah who was not the “whole” Elijah? Why? Lest we forget Ron subverted old dead Herbert’s title so it’s Ron whom is the Icon now, not dead Herbert.
    Ron is going to investigate mainland China? Hint Ron, there is no horde a-massing, your going to have to invent it from scratch.
    China’s horde is about as warlike and world conquering as Germany’s is. Not at all. Both peaceful with stable or decreasing militaries.

    Do any of these new truths have to do with the demon infested IRS?

    Go figure?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Maybe Weinland has a hankering for some Ching du Pai Gu like Herbie had.

    Do any of these new truths have to do with the demon infested IRS?” Now that’s a thought. Maybe Weinland will reveal to his followers the true manifestation of Satan — the IRS special agent who’s investigating him. 😀

  • angel says:

    Ah, that’s old news; we’ve known the IRS has been run by Satan for years! 🙂

  • Steve says:

    The Jews changed Elohim to mean singular…before the jews came along, “God” was not God but “Gods” which is what elohim is……it is meant to be plural with El being an ancient caananite God who apparently wasn’t all too nice. So it is just the same as callin jesus by his name which in reality means Hail Zeus as anythin ending in “sus” is a greek reference to their God Zeus. The geneva bible of 1560 has it “Iesvs/Iesus/Iefus as there was no letter J past 500 years ago for starters.
    Life is a great mystery and is made super confusing by people who redefine history according to the way they want to believe it to be or the way they want others to believe it to be….what a crazy world, …but atleast it is exciting lol

  • Whisper says:

    Weinlandism is a world of deminising returns. Remember the days of glory and high adventure with Ron at the prophecy mill turning out new future-casts left and right? Books, sermans, radio broadcasts, off the wall dictates, confusing interpretations of biblical verse, oh those where the days.
    Weinland definatly had problems with the following and “murmuring” when so many self spoken prophecies fell flat, one after another, that he learned to lead the pack without all the glitz. But the effect is deminishing returns, less glitz – less glory. It’s all so watered down now with blank sermans, boring minor revelations and a “no hype” barrier set up around him.
    Like Harodl Camping before him, Ron has gone into a boring blank faced no hype time where there is no action.
    It’s natural when all you’ve stated does not happen and the following begins to grumble, start off on a no-thrills serman ride where it’s just the bump and grind and only the old and tired stay put because it’s to much effort to get up and find a new seat in a new church.

    Go figure?

  • angel says:

    When someone like Ron comes along with all sorts of grandiose claims – and falls flat on his face – it’s tempting to just write the whole thing (in this case the Bible and prophecy) off; but I never trusted HIM in the first place, so his take on it doesn’t mean much to me or affect what I believe. Can the Bible be confusing? Yes, but confusing doesn’t equal wrong. Can people rewrite history? Yes, but that doesn’t mean EVERYONE does that, nor does it prove all versions of history are wrong or that we will easily be able to pinpoint which version is correct. You can certainly say it’s all too confusing and I don’t know of anyone that has it all figured out so I’m not going to bother; or you can say the reason it’s so confusing is that we don’t have all the info, so no one has it all figured out because without all the info it’s not possible to figure it all out – the second statement makes more sense to me.

    I personally don’t feel the need to figure it all out, and I’m always fascinated by anyone who thinks they have. When I hear people say they have special knowledge of prophecy, I tend to be skeptical until I hear them out; when I hear talk about what the Jews did or didn’t do thousands of years ago I always take into account that I don’t necessarily believe someone’s else’s take on what they think people’s motives were (how can you possibly know that), or that because a word can have different meanings they’re the ones that have figured out what it “really means”. This is exactly what we’re always scratching our heads about here; what are Ron’s motives and why does he claim to be the only one who knows what the Bible “really means”?

    I’m always leery of someone who claims to be able to tell me what something “really means”. That’s kept me from being hooked by people like Ron, and I don’t have any particular confidence in Bible skeptics – I think skepticism can serve a purpose, but it can also cause you to stop short of finding the truth. What drives me crazy about Ron is that it’s difficult enough to have faith in the Bible without him doing everything he can to undermine it.

    I don’t have any idea what “new truths” Ron will come up with, but I think it’s obvious he’s trying to distract attention from the colossal failure of his predictions; and putting pressure on his flock to believe whatever he says as coming from God. Why anyone would believe a “new” truth of his when his “old” truths have turned out to be false I just don’t know.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    What interests me is how it is that people can continue to drink Ronnie’s sour Flavor Aid after all this time.

    And I feel for those who have to watch a loved one who is sucked into this nonsense.

  • Atrocious says:

    I guess that’s why I keep watching this site. I’m waiting for comments from people who have thrown the Flavor Aid away and let some common sense and truth return. It was hard for me, at first, to actually come to believe what other people were writing about HWA because every time I would mention some of these things, I was told that “you can’t believe everything you read” etc., and that it was all a bunch of lies. But then, I finally woke up and realized, no – it was the other way around. And I, too, feel for those who have to watch a loved one who is sucked into this nonsense.

  • JB says:

    It is extremely difficult to watch a loved one sucked into this nonesense!!

  • angel says:

    What I’m curious about, too, is whether there are people who are still willing to get involved with Ron at this stage of the game. I can understand people having been in it for a long time being brainwashed, fearful, heavily invested, prideful about admitting they were wrong, etc.; but can anyone who hasn’t been part of this look at the situation as it is now, after the failed predictions, the lies, the changed timeline, etc. – and still choose to join up?

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    “What I’m curious about, too, is whether there are people who are still willing to get involved with Ron at this stage of the game. ”

    I know of people who started following him _after_ the first timeline failed. So it wouldn’t surprise me that the answer is “yes”. Never underestimate the power of some to self delude. As demonstrated by Fred/Coshakiwi here on this blog within the last couple of weeks.

  • Atrocious says:

    By the way, Mike, have you heard from Fred/Coshakiwi at all lately?

  • angel says:

    Well, if his state of mind is an indicator of the type of people who would sign up at this point in time – I’m thinking you’d have to be insane to get involved now – or should I say “more” insane. If you lie down with insane dogs I guess you’ll be getting up with insane fleas…

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    I haven’t heard from Fred for almost two weeks. Probably has been trying to figure out an explanation to the spokesman of the two witnesses.