Weinland’s Fading Thunders
In the past few days there have been some discussion on my post Kiwi Second Thunder. A follower of Ron has posted a list of recent disasters as a comment to prove Weinland’s validity. Then Mal posted a link to a site with a graph showing that global natural disasters have markedly increased in 2008 and 2009 doubling after being relatively flat in the years 2004 through 2007. What’s interesting is that the same site has another graph from 2008 showing global natural disasters markedly increasing in 2006 and 2007 after being relatively flat in the years 2001 to 2005. This site is run by a Holly Deyo who is marketing a survivalist book and thereby stands to profit from fear. The page with the later graph also republishes an article by Ron Fraser, who is on the staff of another false prophet, That False Prophet Gerald Flurry.
Holly can get away with that because the natural tendency is to recall recent events more clearly than those which have happened some time earlier. I appreciate Holly not cleaning up her website.
In looking over the page on Holly’s site that Mal linked, I noticed a reference to the Center for Research on Epidemiology of Disasters (CRED). This is a non profit associated with the World Health Organization, a United Nations agency. It has more credibility than a website operated by a fear monger easily demonstrated as a purveyor of lies. Right up at the top of their publications page I found a PDF report which includes the following graph:
CRED Data for Global Natural Disasters
I call your attention to the dotted line which is the number of global natural disasters. Note that the number of global natural disasters reached a peak of 434 back in 2005 and has been lower every year since. Back in 2005 and 2006, Weinland was writing his fictional book “2008 God’s Final Witness” and on page 115 he stated:
During the Sixth Seal, all Seven Thunders will be getting progressively louder. Before the Seventh (and final) Seal is opened, the Seven Thunders will become so pronounced that the validity of everything written about them in the previous chapter should roar loudly in the ears of anyone who is willing to admit the truth.
The Sixth Seal ended back in 2008, twice: the first time in March and the second time in November. The thunders did not become so pronounced. Rather the ones attributable to natural disasters decreased. Whatever else you want to interpret from the graph, it clearly shows Weinland to be a false prophet.
And what about the upward trend in natural disasters prior to 2000? Let’s look at the criteria for disaster used
- 10 or more people reported killed;
- 100 or more people reported affected;
- declaration of a state of emergency;
- call for international assistance.
Over the past few decades there has been a significant increase in global communications capability, particularly with the growth of the Internet. Population increases have also contributed. For example, a tornado might not kill anyone if its path is in a rural area, while it could kill dozens of people in a populated area, and an increasing population increases the number of natural events that will qualify as natural disasters. These factors continue into the last decade yet the number of annual disasters leveled off and started declining.
So Mal, I appreciate your link as it led to this reliable data showing what a false prophet Ronald Weinland is.
As always, good work, Mike. Speaking for myself (but I’m sure other readers will agree), all the time and effort that goes into these posts are very much appreciated. Every post speaks for your credibility.
Here here, greatly appreciated Mike.
Brings an important issue up though, isn’t it enough that we have to look at charts, analyse data etc that proves Ron false? I think that if/when the GT occurs, no one will be searching for such data. We will be too busy trying to survive.
When you buy a new car, you suddenly notice all the same cars out there, and think to yourself ‘geez, these cars are everywhere’.
Likewise, if you read Rotten Ronnies book, suddenly you think ‘yeah, things are vetting worse alright!’.
Thing is Mal, the time of the thunders is over, this is meant to be the GT – when ALL thunders are meant to be thundering SO loudly, that no one could deny.
Ron has failed, over and over again.
People that don’t see Ronnies faults, well, it’s because they don’t want to.
They continue believing what Ronnie says, despite overwhelming evidence/facts that he is NOT GFW or indeed any other title this fruit loop has given himself.
Once again, thanks Mike.
My apologies for my writing last few months, I post from my iPhone and I can’t really proof what I have written before I submit (typos etc).
Second paragraph page 19 of PDF is particularly interesting…
I will sit on what ever side of the fence I want to Mike and I hope you didn’t leave anything out or make a Mike ‘guesstemt’ to the above write up…..cause that could make you a liar too!
Kirrliy xpkg, please don’t exaggerate, it doesn’t say ALL thunders are meant to be thundering SO loudly now. (You will frighten people)
Interesting hard core data, thanks Mel.
Mike has gone over this data and simply again targeted the obvious. Natural disasters less in 2009. I do commend you though on your statement about rural disasters as opposed to Urban because that can make a huge difference on % of deaths which is one of the CRED’s monitors.
From CRED’s report please note the following: Mike neglected to mention. On average there were less disasters, however in some areas the % was worse in 2009. Than 2000-2008. Please note that in some Countries different types of disasters are happening which CRED have report are not part of the trend 2000-2008: (I have posted a selection of these below)
Now, you clever Mike followers: try and remember that Scientists don’t always get it right either, somedays we don’t even get correct weather forecasts! Shocking an’t it and they get away with by saying it was an extreme event and people believe and they have got away with it for Centuries!
BUT a Prophet of God gets it wrong and theres a dedicated internet site including ‘look at me I’m due to die anyday now countdown thingy’ maybe you got it wrong Mike?
Please note: For the following I have omitted Ron’s name, because after all he’s only the Prophet.
What I want to comment on is that Gods Thunders cover more than CRED’s monitors. The Thunders include disasters of varying degrees and in unpredictable places (Not all catastrophic though, aye Kirrliy and Mike)? Thats correct aye????
Thunders also cover disease,finances,fighting and heightened human disgruntlement which will lead to other forms of destruction. These will increase, decrease, increase over a period of time. Don’t have to be PKG to work that out.
I will be VERY interested in the 2010 CRED results plus all the other hard core data you will not doubt be getting Mike.
Copied and pasted from CRED Report 2009:
In 2007, 21 countries launched an official website, called Meteoalarm (www.meteoalarm.eu), to warn the public about severe weather across Europe. According to Meteoalarm, “Our climate is changing and extreme weather is likely to occur more frequently, increasing danger to life and damage to property.” It is why more than 30 European countries now work through the public European weather service network within the Worl Meteorological Organization.
Meteorological disasters accounted for 59.7% of total economic damages from natural disasters in 2009, above the annual average of 52.3 % for the period 2000-2008.
From 2000 to 2008, earthquakes accounted for 58.7% of fatalities from global natural disasters. In 2009, this was only 17.0%. The annual impact of geophysical disasters relies on the occurrence of major events, such as the Sichuan earthquake in China in 2008 or the earthquake in Haiti in 2010.
In Europe, the 6.3-magnitude quake that struck L’Aquila, Italy on April 6th 2009 is a confirmation, once again, that Europe is not immune to powerful earthquakes
The 20th century has seen massive migration and rapid urbanization. As many as a billion people now live in urban slums and in extreme poverty. More and more people are settling in potential danger zones, such as on unstable hills, volcanic flanks or earthquake faults, flood plains and coastal areas.
For geophysical disasters, which accounted for 59.3% of economic damages on average in Africa during 2000-2008, no economic damages were reported in 2009. However, since economic damages from natural disasters in Africa are poorly reported, these figures can only be considered as underestimations
Although economic damages from meteorological disasters in the Americas decreased in 2009 compared to the 2000-2008 annual average, they were still the most costly disasters compared to other disaster types in 2009.
However, meteorological events were responsible for most economic damages in Europe in 2009 and increased damages from meteorological disasters were reported compared to the annual average during 2000-2008, mostly due to winter storm Klaus that affected France, Spain and Italy in January 2009.
Of all continents, Asia was most prone to geophysical (56.0%), meteorological (49.4%) and hydrological disasters (40.0%), whereas Europe was the most affected continent by climatological disasters (48.9%) in 2009. In terms of victims, Africa had the most victims from climatological disasters (53.5%), whereas once again Asia had the most victims from meteorological (99.2%), geophysical (91.8%) and hydrological disasters (91.6%). Asia also had the most economic damages from hydrological (66.3%) and geophysical disasters (51.2%) in 2009, but it were the Americas that suffered the most economic damages from meteorological disasters (42.1%) and Oceania from climatological disasters (48.0%) (see Maps 1, 2 and 3).
Either Mike or God are lying…..The truth will come out in the end. Its just that simple.
(Hope you don’t moderate me too master mike)
Holly Deyo would have to provide the actual data used from the reinsurance company Munich Re to prove if her latest graph was manipulated or not.
Often our own intelligence and logic and what we see with our own eyes in our newspapers and on TV is our best evidence.
It’s clear to me that the number and intensity of events is increasing. I don’t remember too many catastrophic fires like they just had in Russia occurring in the past. Or floods of the magnitude that are occurring in Pakistan. Fires have become regular occurrences around the globe as are floods, mudslides etc.
If this is not clear to others on this site, then so be it.
Mal, the data was obviously manipulated. Whether Holly did it or whether Munich Re did it, it was obviously manipulated data. And she put it up. I wouldn’t trust her to give me the correct data.
Mal, intelligence and logic says that our initial perceptions can be wrong sometimes, and that we need to look at the data carefully and analyze it.
Ya, natural disasters should come in larger and larger dose’s as it thier effect upon “mankind” that the whole scale is skewed toward, of course. Since mankind grows in number the number of disasters grows.
But it is an odd occurance that the number has significantly decreased over the last several years. Not so odd that it is un-natural. The world lives and breathes on a much larger and slower scale than mere mankind does in its 80-100 years of life at a time.
But, in reference to Ron’s statements the numbers should be skyrocketing due to super-natural powers, but the reverse is true. Odd?
It should be so very obvious but it’s not. That in itself if a “proof”. On a scale of 0-100 the natural events should be upward of 80+ where the normal for the last 50years would be around 30 and the current turns out to be 24?
Go figure?
Coshakiwi, I’ve released your earlier comment. No, I don’t watch the site that closely. Your comment was moderated automatically.
What part of “all Seven Thunders will be getting progressively louder” don’t you understand?
I never presented this graph as representing all the thunders. Never said that some local areas didn’t experience more.
And speaking of other thunders which this data doesn’t address, let’s talk about one of the others. Particularly the 1st phase of the fifth thunder. Who are these 5 ministers and when did they die?
This is not me Vs God. This is about a false prophet, Ronald Weinland. On second though, maybe it is me Vs a god — Weinland thinks he’s god, claiming the ability to bind and loosen. And his followers think he’s god.
Floods and mudslides happen because people are stupid…what do you expect to happen when you cut down all the trees for greed?…no trees to soak up the rain hence “mudslides”. What do you expect to happen when we replace soil with roads/sidewalks/concrete buildings etc…”floods”.
Records have not been kept that long so who knows what happened in these areas that were once unpopulated…our records don’t go back very far atall and the further we move through time the more advanced our detection gets (hence more disasters are noticed and logged into people’s minds as “disasters intensifying”)
Regardless…from the point of view of those who “want” to believe these are the end times etc…how does this prove ron is right?….there are thousands of others out there who are saying similar things and are ALOT more convincing than ron and some are people who do not claim to be prophets lol.
Coshakiwi says: a whole bunch of stuff
I think the big difference between Mike and Ron is that Mike provides an OPEN forum and doesn’t insist that his views completely coincide with any diety’s.
That’s why you can come here and rant, but we can’t do the same on the PKG website.
Think about it; “think” being the operative word.
Coshakiwi, there is a very major difference between your Ron-god and Mike. Your god, Ron, claims to speak FOR God, that everything that comes out of his mouth are God’s words. He changes time lines and scriptures, etc, claiming they come from God. According to the book that you all claim to follow (but don’t), it says in there that when somebody speaks for God, they had better be right, and everything must come to pass as spoken. That hasn’t happened. Yet your god, Ron, has been proven wrong time and time and time again. You just can’t imagine Ron being wrong, after all – he’s on the same level as God in your mind. How can he be wrong??? But he is. It’s been proven.
But see, Mike doesn’t claim to speak for God. He speaks with authority on the facts! There’s no guessing, there’s no changing, there’s no “maybes” or anything like that.
As far as a cult? Don’t you understand what a cult is? Well, you’re in one. To say that Mike has followers and that he has a “cult” is just ludicrous. I’m free, I’m not bound. I don’t have to worry about losing my salvation if I do this or don’t do that. I don’t have to worry about challenging anybody because they have no power over me like Ron does over you. I can think for myself. I don’t have to have someone telling me how to think.
It’s funny. You have the freedom to comment on this blog but we don’t have the same freedom to comment on pkg’s blog. That’s a big difference.
I still feel sorry for you, coshakiwi…even more so as you continue to show your ignorance.
It’s painfully obvious the thunders are increasing! Why just last week, I saw a car rear end another one. And the week before that, I saw a car slide off the road and land in a ditch! When I went further, I found at least 7 or 8 cars that had did the same thing. Is it just coincident that Ron has declared the great tribulation occurring right now? I think not!
Oh, and I stubbed my toe. It hurt a lot. I can tell you I thundered loudly after I did that.
Ron (not that Ron), I hate to admit it, but I fear the thunders are increasing to.
I hope you guys are sitting down as you are reading this;
1. My dogs gas is getting out of control (sounds like thunder)
2. My favorite fish died (his name was Meredith :0)
3. I was stuck in traffc for 20 minutes just the other day (German car had broken down)
4. I was ripped off $20.00 on a pair of jeans (economic thunder).
I better stop listing these horrific events, don’t want to freak you out too much *curls up under the bed, bites fingernails, attempts to control fear by cunsuming copious amounts of rum*
I also think that a great deal of sheep have escaped from New Zealand. Kiwis hate it when that happens. It sends them crazy.
Kirrily xkgb…. Your right! We do hate it when our sheep escape, but we are much more worried about people like you and Mike that are sheep in wolves clothing.
1. Watch you dog doesn’t blow a hole in your head with his (sound of thunder)opps!
2. I dont have time to look at fish because I’m to tired from work when I get home and have much better things to do (poor old Meredith Not!)
3. I dont get stuck in traffc because theres not many sleep left in New Zealand so theres heaps of room and I have a cheap Jap car that has never broken down ( Will call that a broken Thunder aye) lol.lol.
4. I’m glad you got ripped off with your Jeans because it show’s how dizzy you are and need to wake up. Thats never happened to me, so I must be awake aye!( economic thunder)
Sounds like you really need to get your life in order instead of always riding shotgun with owwwwwwwww great one master mike.
Now dont you go crazy Kirrily XKGB..
Aw, I’m beached as bro!!
Kirrily XPKG calls herself that because she formerly was a member of the CoG-PKG, having been baptized by the Spokesman Witness himself and had the great privilege of watching another Witness flirt with her husband. Having been on both sides she’s best qualified to tell us what crazy is. And when her life has been more in order.
Geez, of all the PKG people I have ever met, this one is the most un-balanced IMO.
Everything raised by this person does not justify a response. I’m over my laughing, now it’s just disturbing. I mean, where would you even begin? Dealing with such rationale is impossible.
I’m off to the beach on this beautiful spring day on the glorious Gold Coast!
Will be thinking of you Americans tonight, can’t believe it’s been 9 years since the towers came down. I’m sure many Americans will be having a subdued weekend.
I hope this is a peaceful weekend in the US. Some religious nut in Florida is threatening to burn copies of the Koran.
Have a good weekend. Don’t get too much sun.
Ok, in all fairness to Ron’s theories, I did a search for natural disasters, economic hardship and war deaths over a 10 year period. I must admit, I am a bit shocked by the results.
I don’t know how anyone can possibly argue that these statistics do not represent a compelling case as the the most extreme ever witnessed by mankind. Please, don’t make up your mind until you read through until the end. This is quite frankly eye-opening.
All statistics were gathered from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org)
Natural Disasters:
- Earthquakes: Over 20 of magnitude 6.0 or greater, resulting in over 200,000 dead. This includes the most powerful earthquake ever recorded in Texas state history.
- Floods/Tsunamis: Over 4 MILLION dead! Including the most deaths in Asian history, the worst flooding in Pennsylvanian history. In the Ohio basin, over 1 million homes lost. Rare flooding in Los Angeles, CA classified as the 5th largest in history.
- Hurricanes: Over 19 major hurricanes (cat 3 or higher) in the Atlantic. This includes the 2nd most active hurricane season in history, as well as the “strongest land-falling hurricane in the United States (and anywhere in the Atlantic basin)”. Also, the 5th deadliest hurricane on record killed 8000 people, and another estimated 8000 people died in other hurricanes.
- Tornadoes: The deadliest ever in Alabama killed 330. The deadliest ever to hit middle Tennessee.
- Drought: The longest ever drought in central North America. Lasting 8 years, and resulting in more destruction of farmland than ever in history.
Economic Hardship:
Unemployment: When people who have quit looking for work are tallied in (unemployment figures do not take into account those who quit looking), the unemployment rate in the US is an UNPRECEDENTED 25%! This figure alone should be a wake up call!
Bank Failures: Unprecedented in history. Only massive government intervention kept it from being worse.
War:
With wars in Asia, Europe and Africa, at no other time in history, save for the 1940s, were more nations at war, had more casualties, or had more civilian deaths.
With this data, it should be glaringly obvious what the conclusion is. Thunders. Loud Thunders.
Only one caveat – the data I presented above represents the 10 years from 1930 until 1939. Unless Ronnie boy was preaching himself as a witness from Revelations during the 1930s, then I would have to say that Ronnie has suffered a catastrophic fail!
The 1930s were a far greater “tribulation” than today. Ronnie’s Mild Tribulation is nothing compared to the Great Depression, Dust Bowl, start of World War II, or even the sketchily recorded hurricanes, floods, earthquakes and tornadoes of that decade.
Ohh Kirrliy xkgb, I’m not unbalanced, that is your excuse when you can’t take what you dish out! So your claim to xkgp fame was your husband flirting with another member of the PKG church. Crikey, I’m sure he would have enjoyed that cause it always takes two ya know! So what? Relationship issues are about people not The Church.
However I imagine this was very unpleasent for you and you blame the church. Talk about gone wrong! Thats not very clever of you Kirrily xkgb..
Luckily theres always two sides to a story and judging by your pass trick record on what you write on here I would have to believe in only about a 3rd of what is said by you and alot more in the flirter you withness and than aquised..
We lived on the Gold Coast and know it like the back of our hands so dont waste your time trying to show off by making out its just the bees knees, We couldnt stop laughing when you said that..lol.lol.its much greener and nicer here and the beachers are beautiful here too..
Oww Mike, Do you always answer for Kirrily xkgb when she quistioned like that?
Mike why dont you beach out into the big time and put a site up about cathloics and mormons instead of a little wee wee fish like Ron church.. After all they are much worse then Rons little church will ever be. You could make a real name for your self or are you just a small time boy?? I think your not man enough and just a small time boy!
Boy, Coshakiwi, you sure are dense. Laura flirted with Kirrily’s husband, and no, flirting doesn’t require reciprocation. You take everything that’s said and twist it around. For example Kirrily’s screen name. There’s no “b” in it.
And I’ll choose the topic of my blog without justification to you. Besides, Ron would be disappointed if I quit.
But keep it up. Your twisting and distorting, illogic, and poor manners are great advertisements for Ron’s church.
Interesting stats Ron (not that Ron)…. Thanks for sharing them.
Coshakiwi, do you need a napkin for all that dribble? Maybe you should read posts properly before you reply and make an absolute fool of yourself.
In fairness to PKG, if this person is a member, which I now doubt, they would get kicked out so fast their butt would be sore for weeks.
Your hatred, anger, pride and arrogance is well noted, and awsomely displayed here coshakiwi – for all to see.
Mike, do you think we should come clean and admit that, in fact, yes, we are in fact the 2 witnesses? Yes – you are from Menassah, and I, from Ephriam. I hereby predict that the sun will set tonight, only to rise again in the morning. If this happens EXACTLY as I say, you will aaaaaalll know I am who I say I am, and powerfully so.
Owww what rubbish mike Boy!
The truth be, You wanted to tell me that so it would make me feel sorry for poor Kirrily xkgb in the hope that I would believe all the chapp yous both say..
At the moment I would sooner say I believe Rons wife and I don’t even no her..
So what did Rons wife do? Did she say hello and hows your day to Kirrily xkgb husband! and she twisted it around to make it sound like Rons wife was a flirter?
Going on Kirrliy xkgb track record of what she’s written I don’t believe a word from her..
So mike! When you gonna pick on some real big fish? Think im right! your not man enough and just a small time boy aye!
Kirrily was there and I believe her. She has never exhibited twisting and distorting in the 18 months I’ve known her. You, on the other hand, demonstrate it on every post.
You state that I’m a small time boy, and you’re picking on me. What does that make you?
That’s enough with the insults, Coshakiwi. If you want to comment here, be respectful of the other commenters.
Coshakiwi said, “Relationship issues are about people, not the church.” My marriage and our family were both fantastic until pkg. Three years later our kids are missing a father and I a husband. He participates in nothing we do. His family is now his little church group. We are near financial ruin because of following Ron’s advice/mandates. The breakdown of our family has everything to do with the ‘church’ that changes the people within. You have no idea how painful this is.
I’m have no idea of the pain you have gone through MH. I was unfortunately in your husbands position, inflicting the pain on my husband.
Your wording that the church ‘changes those within’ is so very true, sadly. It did change me, and even though I left over a year and a half ago, I still don’t recognize myself in many respects.
I feel so lucky that my husband has stuck by me. I honestly don’t know sometimes why he has.
I can only imagine the pain, anger, hurt and distress you have been through, and helplessness as you saw your husband believe in a man. A lying, filthy excuse for a human being.
There is nothing I can really say to you in an attempt to allieviate any of your pain, except that perhaps unfortunately you are not alone. Religion of all types has broken up families, and will continue to do so until time ends. There are people on this blog that have walked in your shoes, and through this blog of Mikes we can vent, discuss etc all things Weinland.
This blog has helped me beyond measure, as has Dills. It’s been my therapy so to speak. I’ve mostly got my life back on track, after wasting much of it.
I feel for you MH.
I’ve noticed Coshakiwi is particularily angry. There’s a sense of real malice in the tone of his postings. I can’t help but feel concern for a person who has such bitterness eating away inside of them. I know everyone has passion when they’re fighting for something they believe in but in the case of what I’ve observed on this site, Coshakiwi would seem to have lost the balance. Clear thinking and solid rationale deserts us when we are consumed with venom – as is apparent.
It’s a scary insight into the mind of a disturbed cult follower.
But enough of that, the weekend is here and good fun awaits me….
Who is coshakiwi anyway?…are they new to posting or have they been here before as they seem to carry on from “somewhere” as though they are no stranger…he/she gives the impression that he/she has been following the forum for a while”…or perhaps just reading and not posting?….Did they use a different name before?
I hope they are not over 20 years old as they are very immature
Coshakiwi and her alter ego Fred post from the same IP address. Fred is quite profane, so I banned him first. Coshakiwi was less so. So I allowed her posts. But more of Fred has leaked into Coshakiwi so she’s history too. Considering her illogical ruminations, her insults are received as the opposite. But after they get repeated a few times, they get boring.
Unfortunately they are middle aged. Some people just never grow up.
I’m not sure that they are PKG members. Would a PKG member be posting on an anti-Weinland site on the sabbath? Or on the Feast of Trumpets? Straight to the Lake of Fire with them. They’ll probably be on the diving board right in front of me.
Thanks Mike!
Thanks for filling us in. Yes, Coshakiwi and Fred have a lot of anger, hatred and frustration. In expressing all that anger and hatred, I could see that “they” were becoming irrational and maniacal. I’ve seen that kind of behavior before, many times. It’s sad. It really is. I hope that eventually this person (or these people, as the case may be [multiple personality disorder?]) will get the help they need to survive the abuse they receive in the cult and ultimately heap on themselves and others. Sadly, they provided some entertainment for a time but it’s over now. Whew!
Coshakiwi is a troll. Maybe not the prototypical troll, but a troll none-the-less.
Most trolls jump into a conversation look for the most hurtful or inflammatory thing to say and say it with gusto. Their intent is purely to rile people up, and they laugh at the people who respond to their bait. The only thing that Coshakiwi did a bit different is he/she actually did a bit of background research on PKG. Other than that, he/she was merely baiting and trolling.
I really never understood the small mindedness of such “entertainment” for them. It’s the maturity level of a 12 year old who makes mean comments to his playmates. Like those immature small-minded bullies, they are best handled by being ignored.
The Fred alter ego is definitely a troll. But I think at least the Coshakiwi alter ego is chugging down the Flavor Aid. Perhaps not enough to pay tithes, get baptized, and keep the holy days. But deluded none the less.
MH, I am sure any who read your post has prayers going out to you.
Listen to Kirrily, she has walked that road and by the grace of God her husband stayed close and true to her.
I can’t imagine the depths of such abandonment can do to you, and I pray I never will. A man who abandons his family for a “religious wanderer” is truely a poor soul with no “man” in him.
But, if by the grace of God, he returns as a husband and a father then it will be a true blessing.
I hope all continues to work out! A real hope that Ron will get snapped up by the IRS!
MH -
My heart goes out to you – It must be so difficult to be experiencing those losses, and yet unable to grieve & heal since you are still in it – Your kiddies too !!
How are you coping with the anger & emotional pain? Are you seeing a therapist or part of a support group? Hopefully you have other family members & friends who can be a support to you.
Thank you for your courage in posting – your story of your family breakdown is one of the true shames of Ronnie’s insane & self-promoting con job.
And to think that Ronnie just spent the last month or so preaching about peace and the importance of relationships – MH’s story is another reminder that he doesn’t give a flying fig for anyone but himself – Ron was getting fed up with the murmurings of his followers and how it was affecting him – he has no conscience or tender thoughts of these “little ones” who are being so hurt in the fallout – Just makes my blood boil
MH
I am so sorry you are going through all this pain and suffering because of Ron Weinland. I hope and pray that your husband will come to see what has happened and leave the cult. I also hope that you will get the help you need. I agree with Kerrily, Whisper, and Debbie. My heart goes out to you. Nothing I can say seems like enough. I wish I could give you a hug but I can’t, so a cyber-hug will have to do. ((((((((MH))))))))))
That is the really sad thing about these cults – they serve themselves, at the expense of their followers. The church is the greatest good, so no matter what damage is done to further its goals, it is always “for the best”. Always beware when people consider an institution more important than people! You can bet your hindquarters that great wrongs are being done when someone says that. Ron may do it on a small scale, but we have seen more than enough examples here of how deeply peoples lives are affected by this little doomsday cult. MH – you have my sympathy.
Wait a second, i think we’ve all missed something of incredible importance here…
Kirrily Xpkg:
You said your GERMAN car is having problems?
Well obviously the beast power is on the rise!!
Heavy sigh. Great blog Mike, per usual.