Mocking Weinland

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke today in Melbourne, Australia.  Actually he spoke twice, as the recording for the first delivery was lost, so he got to redeliver it in a hotel room by himself.  Has Laura gone back to cowering in the bathtub, or was she out schmoozing the flock?  He mentioned getting some technical help connecting to the Internet to stream the sermon, help which ended up going awry.  I wonder if the latest technical help also came from Jonathan Baillie who contributed to the dropouts in the recording of the 2008 Last Great Day sermon.

Ron cautioned that associate elders are not to counsel.  People are to contact the elder in their region, who likely will refer the question to the FAQ section on the PKG website.  Anecdotal information that has reached me indicates that this has always been the prevalent practice.

I’ve recently been sparring with Aaron Robinson, a wordy person who types a lot but doesn’t say much.  He is yet another Weinland follower who is not a PKG member yet presumes to speak for Weinland.  I found this statement of his to be interesting:

When Mr. Weinland addresses his mockers, what he doesn’t do is make fun of them all over the place, and ridicule them, and just plain mocking them as like he is imitating somebody behind their back.

In today’s sermon, at 41 minutes in the version which includes the announcements, Ron discussed the pharisees trying to find fault with Jesus,  made the following statements:

You know, we have people listening to the sermons week after week, just to find fault.  They just can’t wait, they don’t get it, they don’t understand what God is giving.  But they just see human beings and they hate it.  They do just truly are stirred up and hate what they’re hearing.

And I think “Get a life!!! Why put yourself through that misery, if you hate it so much?  If you hate me, if you hate what you’re hearing so much.”

But it’s just like the pharisees here, they were going to lose something, because if they’re wrong.  So they’ve got to fight against it, to prove themselves right, to be right.  Incredible, the mind of human beings.   And so people that just try to find something that they can say that this is wrong.  This is bad, see he’s wrong again.  He’s wrong about this.  And they can’t wait to write about it, or tell others, or blog about it.  Because they just want to “bla bla bla” because they think that they’re so right.  And they just don’t get it.  They just have total inability to see. Sad.

Aaron, I wonder if you really listen to the sermons?  Can you hear the mocking tone that Weinland uses to address his critics? (And this is not the first time he’s done this.)   I expect that you probably don’t have ears to hear and will claim he wasn’t mocking.  Or you’ll just come up with a rambling explanation about how that’s OK, even though you said he doesn’t do that.

Ron had a similar riff earlier in the sermon, about 25 minutes into the current version of the recording.  Speaking of Jesus:

.. and people who are trying to find fault, and they were constantly trying to find fault.  We’re very accustomed to that.

You know people continually trying to find fault, trying to find something that’s said that they can find fault with.  That they can twist and distort, and they think they have a heyday.  Things that are written in the books, that they think that they have absolute understanding of.  They believe that certain things haven’t happened and they don’t get it.

They don’t understand the fast that took place.  They don’t understand God’s will and why God has done things the way he has.  They don’t understand the 50th truth.  They don’t appreciate, they don’t like those things.  And so they say, it’s like “nyah, nyah, nyah, we know”   So they’re just like little kids, playing games. And they don’t understand, they don’t see God. And you can’t give that to them.

But I do understand.  I understand that the 2-day fast was a ploy.  PKG was instructed to pray for death and destruction so people would be humbled and repent so God could show mercy.  If you don’t believe me, listen to the sermon of Jan 31, 2009. When none of the death, destruction, humbling, and repenting materialized, Ron then characterized it as God showing mercy, no mention of the lack of people being humbled and repenting.

And I do understand the 50th “truth”.  It was a desperate ploy, showing signs and lying wonders so that Ron could hang on to his flock and make them forget his promise to quit preaching if the 1st and 2nd trumpets weren’t powerfully and abundantly clear by July of 2008. At first PKG was to wait until Trumpets of 2008, but Ron quickly determined that PKG wouldn’t wait and had to deliver the sermon the following Saturday, 3 months ahead of schedule.

During the sermon, Ron went mentioned Jesus’ admonition to “pay unto Cesar that which is Cesar’s”.  Also stated that those who don’t pay their taxes are crackpots.  I expect that we’ll soon be finding out whether the IRS has determined Ron to be a crackpot by his own definition.

It seems that Ron’s allergies are getting more severe.  In the past Ron has instructed that visitors to Cincinnati should not wear perfumes and colognes because of sensitive people there.  Now he is instructing that people should not wear them when he comes visiting.  I wonder if someone were to attempt to do in the end-time Witness by throwing perfume on him, would he be drowned in a vat of perfume? (… he must in this manner be killed)?  😀

Aaron, before you try to paint this as a death threat by me on Weinland — no it isn’t.

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  • jack635 says:

    Aaron — … will claim he wasn’t mocking. Or you’ll just come up with a rambling explanation about how that’s OK, even though you said he doesn’t do that.

    Or he’ll just remain silent.

  • Steve says:

    Quote from article “Has Laura gone back to cowering in the bathtub, or was she out schmoozing the flock? ”

    No…she was with the twenty somethin off duty bell boy having “fun” in the Hotel Jaccuzi
    I wonder what Ron tells himself when he sees her flirtin….willingly ignorant perhaps….amazing, truly…..from his own words as recorded in this article ..”They just have total inability to see”

  • Dill Weed says:

    It’s gonna be so sweet when he changes the timeline again. I can hardly wait!

    Dill Weed

  • jack635 says:

    Dill Weed you just might be right. Another timeline would not surprise me in the least. Especially if the new timeline moves up the date of Jesus return.

  • JB says:

    Since I have never been a COG member but now have a close family member that is, I find everything RW says is unbelievable and laughable. It blows my mind that he keeps changing things just to hang on to his little flock. The fact that he worries so much now about the people that ” mock ” him tells me he is becoming more and more mentaly unbalanced. What a sad little man. AMAZING!

  • Whisper says:

    First, Ron had a timeline and he was oh so proud of it telling everyone he could of the “TIMELINE”.
    Second, Ron had to ditch the “TIMELINE” because its times came and went. So Ron created a second timeline, something he said he would never do.
    Third, Ron had to edit the second “TIMELINE” because the Great Tribulation had no Great Tribulation in it, so he shortened the second TIMELINE so some Great Tribulation could happen within the Great Tribulation time.

    It’s only a matter of time till a second edit happens to the second “TIMELINE” or a third “TIMELINE” is created and takes the place of the first two and the edited second version.

    But, as our good man Dill says, “tick tock” you time runs short Ron.

    If only the IRS would force the issue and take Ron into custody the third timeline would be oh so much more fun.
    It would be rather funny to hear the statements of Ron about being a Witness of God and Speaker for the one and only true church from behind bars.
    In almost all cases it would be pathetic, but in Rons case it would be pathetic and humorous all in one.

    Go figure?

  • Aggie says:

    “And I think “Get a life!!! Why put yourself through that misery, if you hate it so much? If you hate me, if you hate what you’re hearing so much.””

    Hmm, I wonder if I should take the old Weinland Watch blog down? Because Rotten Ron is pretty much verbatim rehashing Timeline One here.

    March 29, 2008 Sermon, “Three More Week” at approx. 21:30: [Weinland stated that] “….we do not announce the specific location of services, but only the city where they’re taking place, because there are “…a lot of crackpots out there…on the internet…I am talking to some of you crackpots…there are sick, sick people out there…If you don’t agree with something, get a LIFE…How can you feast on this?” [Weinland claims that he has more to say to the crackpots and that] “…you may want to stay tuned to this sermon.”

    34:50: “…Critics do not get it because they don’t see it spiritually, they’re small minded, they’re perverted, they’re twisted and they’re destroying themselves. Too bad!! Get a life…while you can.”

    The March 29, 2008 sermon is also notable for this quote (as well as its title — “Three More Weeks”, and yet we’re well past that same date three years later, Weinland), at just under two hours in:

    “If by Pentecost [June 8, 2008] I’m just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost [June 8 2008] it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching. Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July [2008] and for most likely around Pentecost [June 8, 2008] if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on aaaaall those interviews that I have held. To do less. Well. Would be quite insane.”

    Of course, Rotten Ron’s last sentence is where we got the moniker Insane Lying False Prophet Ronald Weinland from, after the first timeline failed.

    Three timelines later, I really have to wonder why there are still people hanging on, when the evidence that Ronald and Laura Weinland are grifters out for the long con, is more than amply available on the Internet?

  • Aggie says:

    Hear Weinland’s “If by Pentecost” promise to stop preaching on YouTube, because all the Hotlinkfiles I had up on the WW blog are no more.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Actually, the YouTube clip Aggie links is a similar statement from December of 2007.

    Here’s a link to an MP3 clip of the “If by Pentecost” promise made March 29, 2008 (or click on the play button below).

  • jack635 says:

    There will always be a percentage of the population which will make themselves available for the use of con artists. What was that saying attributed to P.T. Barnum? “Sucker” is almost fitting.

    Those who think for themselves will get out. Those who do not think for themselves are doomed to whatever their chosen leader subjects them to.

  • Aggie says:

    Hahaha it’s great that you got that clip before Hotlinkfiles went belly-up! If I was a little more motivated, I might go through the WW and re-upload all the broken files. Given that Weinland has now been wrong, not, not even two, but that he has called down the Great Tribulation three times and has been wrong, well. To (coin a phrase) waste any more time on a false prophet like that…would be quite insane. 😉

  • Whisper says:

    Grifter or delusional?
    I rather think it’s a bit of both. Once upon a time the “Dedulsional” side of Ron & Laura was evident as dominate with the “if by pentacost…” speal.
    But after taking oh so many knocks R&L have slipped over to the “Grifter” side of the coin and don’t want to make any more bold statements that make people (tithers) leave the fold.
    Oh I’m sure when Ronny is a-sermanizing he is as delusional as ever, but I would rather think that the rest of the time is thinking about that comfortable retirement and how he can “Graft” that $$ out of he sheep.

    What a waste, Ron and Laura could have been somebody, used their talents for Gods work in helping their fellow man instead of feeding their own ego’s and enriching themselves…

    What a waste…

  • Karen Mustard says:

    He thinks we are loooooking to find fault. Looooking to find where he is wrong about this or that…. It’s NOT hard to find and we don’t have to LOOOOk very hard. He just continues to walk right into making false statements and predictions ANYONE with eyes to see or ears to hear would EASILY notice…. Duhhh… He’s lame!

  • Baywolfe says:

    jack, as usual, has hit it on the head. Since I left the WWCG in 1994 and actually do have a life, (sorry Ron!) and also have no dogs in this fight, it is truly amazing how close to the biblical description of the Sardis church the PKG appears to be. They are the dead church that has “fallen asleep”.

    Hopefully, some will wake up and deny Ron of his precious tithe money. Even if there are only 300 people and they only donate $2,000 a year – per person, that’s a staggering $600,000. Even if 50% goes to salaries and expenses that still leaves an income of $300,000 per year. There are doctors that don’t make that much money.