Moving Mountains
Last night was the beginning of the Days of Unleavened Bread and also the Night to be Much Observed. When I was growing up in RCG/WCG, small groups would get together to share a meal in a member’s home. Seems that also has changed in the CoGs including within PKG as per a comment left on the Purple Hymnal blog about how Johnny observes it.
False Prophet Ronald Weinland has recorded his high day sermon and is heading over to Australia. He must have a lot on his mind because he didn’t issue a reminder for holy day special offerings as he usually does. Perhaps Audra’s testimony is occupying his thoughts these days.
He also announce that after Saturday’s services he had ordained 4 more people in New Zealand. On Jan 9, he indicated that I was doing them a favor by publishing the first and last names of elders even though he only gave first names. Looks like Ron really didn’t mean that and doesn’t appreciate my efforts, because he didn’t give even the first names of the four new elders. With Adrian Gray and the 4 new elders, New Zealand probably now has a higher percentage of elders than does the already high percentage of the rest of PKG.
Ron took some time to address his critics, at 27 minutes into this week’s version of the recording on the PKG website:
I think about people out there who torment themselves listening to me sabbath by sabbath, holy day to holy day. For no other purpose than to find something wrong. To find some fault so they can bla bla bla and they don’t get it, they don’t understand what’s being said…. Those who seek to find fault will always find fault. They’ll always find something negative and wrong or something to twist and distort, just a little bit.
Well, Ron makes it so easy. About the ability to find fault. I don’t have to get picky to find fault with what he says. He puts both feet in and chews on them. No need to twist and distort. He is correct about the torment — his sermons are tormenting to listen to. The only way I can maintain my sanity is to tune out most of his blather, a skill I learned while warming the hard metal folding chair enduring one of False Prophet Herbert Armstrong’s 4-hour Last Great Day sermons.
Later on in his sermon, Ron was reading from Mark 11:20-24 about faith being able to move mountains. At 1 hour 46 minutes he followed up these verses with:
But what do you believe? What is the purpose behind it? This is a little bit of what I’m trying to convey of recent time about Two Witnesses and what happened. What happens in certain prophecy in Revelation. Because the vast majority of those things don’t happen till toward the end. Just as in Christ’s ministry here. In his period of his ministry, the things that happened on the last few days were immense, indeed.
And so it is in this age we live in right now. There are going to be things that are reserved toward the end. Because I am who I know I am doesn’t mean I can go out here and ask God and tell God, or say – I wouldn’t do it unless I know and I won’t know until God let’s me know. When it agrees with God and when it agrees with God’s will. There are certain things you don’t do in life, unless you know it’s God’s will and God’s purpose. And so it was with Christ, so it is with all of us, and what we pray about. You must know something is a matter of God’s will and in agreement with God and then you can pray about it with boldness. In faith.
It’s not a matter of just asking whimsically God to do certain things. [sarcastically] That if somehow you can whip it up enough – “I’m going to work up this faith and I’m going to ask: Mountain be moved. And cast into the sea” And all of a sudden you it plop off the top and take it – I won’t tell you what you’d probably do if you saw that – ‘your loins would be loosed’ is the expression in the old testament.
But see, who is going to do that? I can tell you who would do it. Some nutcase, some whacko, some weirdo. Unless you know it’s from God and God’s purpose. And how can you know that? If something is written in here and you know it and you know the timing of it and what the purpose is. Yes. If you’re at one with God, if there’s a unity and oneness with God here in your life, that he gives it to you, in some sort of way, whatever way that he works with every one of us in life. Then so be it. But belief is a matter of faith and how God works in your life and what he’s doing with your life and what his will is. It doesn’t mean that you go and ask for certain things that aren’t a part of his will.
So Ron, let me ask you this: Was it God’s will that the thunders would increase in January of 2007 after you asked him to do so in December of 2006? Was it God’s will that Roderick Meredith, Richard Ames, Gerald Flurry, David Pack, and John Ritebaugh die in response to the curse you placed on them after they ignored the letters you sent them? Or did they ignore you? Come on Ron, you’re big on history. How about posting a copy of the letters you sent them and their responses, if any?
Was it God’s will that “nukular” explosions occur in US port cites in response to your prophesies?
Or did your blather in the sermon only apply to mountains and lottery tickets? Inquiring minds want to know. And what about Revelation 11:6? Which states:
These [the Two Witnesses] have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
The Bible says the Two Witnesses don’t have to wait for an indication of God’s will. Was it God’s will that caused me to die speedily after you cursed me with death 66 weeks ago? During the first part of your latest sermon after talking about how you were tormenting me, you said:
And that blows my mind, about human nature. And how much human beings will fight against God, and the word of God, and God’s prophets and God’s teachers. That’s the way it is. So if they want to live in misery, I tell them “Go ahead and live in misery. Torment yourself. Have at it. I feel sorry for you. It’s pathetic what you’re doing.
And you’re going to pay for it.’ Some tried to mock and said ‘I hadn’t paid for it yet, I’m still alive’ ….. because it doesn’t happen immediately … some things don’t happen immediately, … people can say….‘God’s not going to punish me’ Oh, yeah. Everyone will be judged, in God’s time. Incredible.
Yes, Ron — I’m going to die. Just not when and how you said. And you’re going to die too. Just not when and how you said, during May of 2012 on the streets of Jerusalem. That is unless your Jerusalem Syndrome is worse than I thought and you and Laura buy your own airline tickets to Israel and do yourself in. But wait, that won’t work either — the “beast power” has to do you in. How will you make that happen? Spiritually is what history suggests.
Note: in the last episode of “The Simpsons” available for viewing online, Homer’s goofy neighbor Ned Flanders persuades Homer to travel to the “holy land” where he acquires Jerusalem Syndrome.
“But see, who is going to do that? I can tell you who would do it. Some nutcase, some whacko, some weirdo. ” – said by Ron.
And what he has prophesied (that never came to pass) like; so and so is going to die slowly and speedily, a third of all plant life will die by such and such a date, but – oh wait, I meant economically – oh wait…that was spiritual, “if by Pentecost…” wasn’t said by a “NUTCASE, SOME WACHO, SOME WEIRDO”? Look in the mirror, Ron. YOU”RE the nutcase, whacko, weirdo, and a few other things I could add.
Ah sheesh. It’s amazing how an insane mind works.
Good job, Mike.
I wonder if he is coming here to the Gold Coast? Laura would love it, Cougars Paradise……
Ron must have figured that out, as he’s scheduled his appearances for Sydney and Melbourne.
And you’re going to die too. Just not when and how you said, during May of 2012 on the streets of Jerusalem.
When he doesn’t die in May 2012 he will pick out certain verses which explain everything. (for the elects sake….) He has no plans of dying in the streets anywhere. Gotta milk it for as much as possible.
After he beats this horse to death, he’ll just buy another one.
This is for ALL COG members, COG-PKG included. Your “unleavened bread” isn’t really Godly after all:
What Makes Bread Rise?
“The simple answer? Water. Once grain flour comes into contact with water, the leavening process starts to kick in and – unless promptly heated with fire – the flour/water mixture will go on to become chametz. Indeed, that is why Passover matzah must be baked within eighteen minutes of the dough being mixed, in order to stave off the otherwise inexorable leavening process.
So, forget those egg matzahs.
Only symbolic you say? You only need to give your “best effort” ? Hmm. I know what God says about your best effort.
If your matzah hasn’t been baked within 18 minutes (and there are brands where Rabbis stand by), then they are leavened, pure and simple.
We never bothered with any of that in the WCG.
“Oh, yeah. Everyone will be judged, in God’s time. Incredible.”
Yep, just like Ron said, everyone will be judged and Ron will get his as well. I gather everyone else here can hear the psychosis in Rons written words… Ron does not believe that he, Ron himself, could ever be judged by God to be false and a antagonist to his fellow man. Old Ron’s mentally beyond that, in tight with God, and well just to high to be judged like the rank and file.
“And you’re going to die too. Just not when and how you said, during May of 2012 on the streets of Jerusalem.”
Now that will be the answer to whether Ron is more of a Con-man or more of a Delusional-man. Ron poping his own cork, oh and his wifes too, in the J-city at his self appointed date would make him 101% the Delusional-man… Ron running off with all his ill-gotten gains would make him the Con-man. But as many believe, Ron will do neither he will simply continue on his money making ministry in the name of himself and the Miss’s by inventing even more lies to eak out every dime he can then retire.
Go figure?
I believe that, unless something intervenes such as the IRS successfully bringing a case against him, that something will happen along the lines that Whisper suggests. Perhaps he’ll call a fast at the end of next January, a 3-day fast this time, to pray that God would hold off the Great Tribulation. He’ll tell the survivors that their prayers were answered and carry on.
“Uh, woops – God just revealed to me that times, time and half a time is actually doubled, to give you more time to respond, and is actually a 7 year tribulation. 7 after all, means final – that means 1 trumpet per year…..”.
Yep – that’s my bet, the GT will turn into a 7 year one….. LOL
I know a lot of other churches who believe it goes for 7 years…. I guess there is some biblical basis for this??
Geez, old Ronnie may even believe in the Rapture soon!!! LMAO!!!
I had NTBMO at a restaurant, in a private banquet hall.
It’s nothing new, it’s been done like that for at as long as I’ve been in United, which is when it formed in 1995. Each congregation would set up a dinner locally, such as at a meeting hall of a hotel or restaurant. About 75% of the members tend to show up at those. Anyone else who abstains is free to keep it as they see fit.
I’m too young to know about the WCG days and how things were done, but this is the way I’ve always known it.
Heh-Heh-Heh,
Seems like someone is feeling the pressure. First thing that popped into my mind with Ron’s whole if God is wiling it thing was ‘strike the earth with plagues as often as they will’.
Blah-blah-blah, Ron might even be reading the Dill Weed blog! (Yeah!) Two extra head scratches for Dill Weed, Jr. b/c I know he’s suffered greatly listening to Ron’s sermons especially when I pull his tail when he falls asleep b/c I don’t want to suffer alone. So far, I’ve managed to avoid his claw swipes at me, but I know I’ll be too slow one day.
Tick Tock
Judgment day is coming.
Dill Weed
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WHOA, check that link from the Wacky Phelps crowd! What must the Two Witlesses think about being labelled “the World’s Most Famous Calvinists“, by the Westboro Baptist Church? Not quite the Fifth Thunder Rotten Ron “prophesied” (the first and second times), now is it?