Comments on: A Full Deck and a Joker http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/ Don't Drink the Flavor Aid Served by False Prophets Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:07:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lori http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-144003 Lori Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:29:49 +0000 http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1053#comment-144003 Okay, I can't help but chuckle at your sense of humor in pointing out these SAD facts about the BLATANT failings of RW's non-God inspired "revelations". And so he really did pronounce a curse on you to "die speedily from the inside"?? Well, aren't YOU special?? :-) The other poor blokes got cursed to "die SLOWLY from the inside". Ugh. But like someone stated above....."if it weren't so tragic, it would be hilarious". Christ, our Savior, and perfect Role Model, while dying on the cross, prayed for his enemies, "Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing". Okay, I can’t help but chuckle at your sense of humor in pointing out these SAD facts about the BLATANT failings of RW’s non-God inspired “revelations”. And so he really did pronounce a curse on you to “die speedily from the inside”?? Well, aren’t YOU special?? :-) The other poor blokes got cursed to “die SLOWLY from the inside”. Ugh. But like someone stated above…..”if it weren’t so tragic, it would be hilarious”. Christ, our Savior, and perfect Role Model, while dying on the cross, prayed for his enemies, “Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they are doing”.

]]> By: xHWA http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-3440 xHWA Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:27:34 +0000 http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1053#comment-3440 "The abomination of desolation that has been working to destroy the Church is the very power that works to dilute and change the word of God—the truths restored." -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Q5 2002 http://web.archive.org/web/20020624200752/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/02/q1.html Oh.. from his own mouth! “The abomination of desolation that has been working to destroy the Church is the very power that works to dilute and change the word of God—the truths restored.”
-Ron Weinland, News Watch, Q5 2002
http://web.archive.org/web/20020624200752/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/02/q1.html

Oh.. from his own mouth!

]]> By: xHWA http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-3439 xHWA Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:26:23 +0000 http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1053#comment-3439 "Yet today there are many who are tearing down this understanding. One evangelist is placing doubt in the minds of brethren by criticizing what was done during Philadelphia. Such tactics only serve to weaken the Church even more. Faithfully reviewing our history and acknowledging that this history is in perfect and complete harmony with the word of God and end-time prophecies should serve to strengthen brethren and sober us to the reality of how little time we have left to prepare ourselves. Yet this evangelist "of a large organization" waffles back and forth on this subject. He even plants the thought that there are experts who believe one of the two witnesses may fulfill this role of the Elijah to come. How could such a man be so blind, especially after all that he experienced in the Church during Philadelphia? " -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Q4 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20020624195633/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/01/q4.html By his own mouth. “Yet today there are many who are tearing down this understanding. One evangelist is placing doubt in the minds of brethren by criticizing what was done during Philadelphia. Such tactics only serve to weaken the Church even more.
Faithfully reviewing our history and acknowledging that this history is in perfect and complete harmony with the word of God and end-time prophecies should serve to strengthen brethren and sober us to the reality of how little time we have left to prepare ourselves. Yet this evangelist “of a large organization” waffles back and forth on this subject. He even plants the thought that there are experts who believe one of the two witnesses may fulfill this role of the Elijah to come. How could such a man be so blind, especially after all that he experienced in the Church during Philadelphia? ”
-Ron Weinland, News Watch, Q4 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20020624195633/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/01/q4.html

By his own mouth.

]]> By: xHWA http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-3438 xHWA Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:14:02 +0000 http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1053#comment-3438 "No one has a right to change what is true. You only have a choice to accept or reject what is true. Most have been rejecting that truth. Will you, or have you already done so? If you have ever rejected some truth, you always have a choice to repent and seek God's loving mercy. That is a choice, but changing God's truth is not!" -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000 http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html By his own mouth! Or keyboard, as the case may be. “No one has a right to change what is true. You only have a choice to accept or reject what is true. Most have been rejecting that truth. Will you, or have you already done so? If you have ever rejected some truth, you always have a choice to repent and seek God’s loving mercy. That is a choice, but changing God’s truth is not!”
-Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000
http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html

By his own mouth! Or keyboard, as the case may be.

]]> By: xHWA http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-3437 xHWA Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:11:40 +0000 http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1053#comment-3437 "Today some ministers are boldly and defiantly teaching against the need to hold fast to [or to alter as needed] the eighteen truths revealed through Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. Instead, the idea of holding fast to such things is minimized, criticized, ridiculed, discredited, and disparaged [, or altered as becomes convenient]. Efforts to debunk or detract from [or alter] the genuine importance of these truths, as being restored to the Church during Philadelphia, are hideous acts of false witnessing." -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000 http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html “Today some ministers are boldly and defiantly teaching against the need to hold fast to [or to alter as needed] the eighteen truths revealed through Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. Instead, the idea of holding fast to such things is minimized, criticized, ridiculed, discredited, and disparaged [, or altered as becomes convenient]. Efforts to debunk or detract from [or alter] the genuine importance of these truths, as being restored to the Church during Philadelphia, are hideous acts of false witnessing.”
-Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000
http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html

]]> By: xHWA http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-3436 xHWA Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:08:13 +0000 http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1053#comment-3436 "We have always known the importance of these three truths that were still a part of the Church during the time of Sardis. At the end of Philadelphia, after Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong died, we acknowledged there had been many truths revealed and restored to the Church through him. These were later classified into a list of eighteen truths. Since this list was a compilation of foundational truths, why would anyone object to the use of this list as being basic and foundational understanding that we are to hold fast? They are true and they were revealed by God through the power of His spirit. If they were not, then our faith is in vain. If these were not revealed through the power of God's spirit, then any or all of these eighteen things may need changing. But if God did indeed reveal these, all should fear meddling with them! The truth is that those who do not like to hold fast to these truths are actually in disagreement with one or more of them." -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000 http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html A false prophet is always revealed by his own mouth. “We have always known the importance of these three truths that were still a part of the Church during the time of Sardis. At the end of Philadelphia, after Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong died, we acknowledged there had been many truths revealed and restored to the Church through him. These were later classified into a list of eighteen truths. Since this list was a compilation of foundational truths, why would anyone object to the use of this list as being basic and foundational understanding that we are to hold fast? They are true and they were revealed by God through the power of His spirit. If they were not, then our faith is in vain. If these were not revealed through the power of God’s spirit, then any or all of these eighteen things may need changing. But if God did indeed reveal these, all should fear meddling with them! The truth is that those who do not like to hold fast to these truths are actually in disagreement with one or more of them.”
-Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000
http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html

A false prophet is always revealed by his own mouth.

]]> By: xHWA http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-3435 xHWA Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:04:32 +0000 http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1053#comment-3435 "The number [of truths in the 18 truths list] is not important, but the truth is! You cannot change or alter what is true. Either it is miraculously received as a result of God's direct revelation to us or it is not." -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000 http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html Soooo...... Can you change the "truths" or can't you? “The number [of truths in the 18 truths list] is not important, but the truth is! You cannot change or alter what is true. Either it is miraculously received as a result of God’s direct revelation to us or it is not.”
-Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000
http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html

Soooo……
Can you change the “truths” or can’t you?

]]> By: xHWA http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/2010/01/02/a-full-deck-and-a-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-3202 xHWA Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:46:25 +0000 http://ronaldweinland.info/falseprophet/?p=1053#comment-3202 I'm with Mark on this. If they are true, how the heck can they be changed? Something that is true cannot be changed, because that would mean that either it wasn't true before, or it isn't true any longer. Truths cannot be changed. Those are not truths. I’m with Mark on this.

If they are true, how the heck can they be changed? Something that is true cannot be changed, because that would mean that either it wasn’t true before, or it isn’t true any longer.

Truths cannot be changed.
Those are not truths.

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