A Full Deck and a Joker

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke from Portland today, continuing on the theme rolled out in last week’s sermon, that of new ordinations including women.

JokerCardDuring the sermon, Ron indicated that this latest rubbish will be organized as new numbered truths:

  • #51: Ron is the final Elijah-to-come, John the Baptist and Herbie were only “types”.
  • #52: Removal of the curse of Eve from women, restoring them to the rightful place in the family
  • #53: The ordination of women is allowed

According to Ron, credit for the new truths is given to the Silent Witness who pointed out certain things.  Perhaps Laura will be promoted to Apostle as a result.  While he hasn’t posted these new “truths” on his website, he has done a little editing on two of the first fifty “truths” which I have marked to indicate the added words and deleted words.

Edits to Truth #30

Matthew 24 is first and foremost about the Church at the end-time. It is not about physical events in the end time, although these are a type of some of the events that will occur. As Jesus Christ gave prophecy concerning events that would lead to His coming as the Messiah, he first spoke of events that would occur in the Church (vs. 4-21). These events have been believed to be about physical events that would happen on earth, but they are about the Church.

God has now shown that there is a duality concerning both the Church and the world that applies to verses 21 and 22. All these prophesied events in Mat. 24 lead up to the time of the very coming of the Messiah to this earth (vs. 29-31).

Edits to Truth #39

Herbert W. Armstrong was a “type” of the prophesied “Elijah to come,” as he who restored all truth essential to salvation to the Church of God during the Philadelphia Era.

Ron has yet to edit his FAQ page which indicates that he is a God-denier just like Rod Meredith for not recognizing Herbert Armstrong as the prophesied Elijah-to-come.

Ron warned that people will lose friends after ordination.  Not because the ordained one changed but because friends become jealous as happened to him.  Riiiiggghhht.  I’m totally sure that Ron did not change even an iota when ordained as a local elder in Houston back in April of 1981.

Ron announced that 57 members had been ordained over the past couple of weeks (or would be shortly) including 31 women.  My count of the names that Ron announced was 58 (including the 3 evangelists’ wives announced last weekend) and 59 if you count Willem Henderson who was promoted to senior elder.  But Ron is the one who has the minor in math so my count must be incorrect.  Far be it from me to twist and distort.

Ron only gave first names, because of all the crackpots, kooks, or absolute liars out there who like to twist and distort.  If you are one of those, then stop reading since I have last names for most of the new elders.  And if you know who any of these crackpot, looks, and absolute liars are who like to twist and distort about PKG members, please leave a comment identifying them.  Names in bold are full elders, others are associate elders:

  • Florida: Newt Carter and Diane
  • Georgia: Larry Spivey (who edits Ron’s books),  Paul and Doris Giles, April Young (mother of Paul), and Alan Giles (son of Paul)
  • Pacific Northwest: Bill and Diana Carr, and Jim Sullivan.  Also Tina Jamieson, wife of senior elder Jim Jamieson
  • Tennessee: Gerald
  • Detroit: Stan Watson, Helen Terlecki, and Parker (Terry’s 23-year-old son).  Helen and Parker have been associated with Ron since 1995.
  • Mississippi: Lori Williams, who is Laura’s friend
  • Los Angeles: Dottie Smith
  • Sacramento, California area: Russ Shoemaker
  • Lubbock, TX: Fredda Maeker
  • Louisville area: Linda (Cookie) Fields (wife of elder Curtis Fields), Beverly VanNorman, and Tony Blair
  • Illinois: Lynnette Eckhardt
  • Buffalo NY area: John, Richard & Marie, Bonnie, Bob and Donna Madison
  • Maine: Vicki (Vicki Snowdeal passed away from cancer last spring.  But I guess there could be another Vicki from Maine in COG-PKG).
  • Dallas: Glen Gagas
  • Missouri: Dee Wobbe
  • Utah: Debra Tiernan
  • Belgium: Mieke Van Lerberghe (wife of elder Gijs)
  • Netherlands: Edwin Van Horne
  • Germany: Jeremy Weinland (Ron’s 24-year-old son)
  • Alberta: Eric and Kalee Wiesman
  • Manitoba: George Black
  • Australia: Peter Herrmann, Derek Mendygral, and Zoran Illitch (translated Ron’s books to Italian)
  • New Zealand: Rex Blake
  • UK: Una Milne (wife of senior elder William)
  • Cincinnati region: Jenny, Patty Dalrymple (wife of senior elder Stephen), Tim Brown, Joey Shockey, April Combs, Sandy Bays, Willy and Lois Doemeland, Tom and Barb Volle

To round things out, Weinland’s daughter and church bookkeeper Audra L. Little is to be ordained as senior elder.   Perhaps this status will help her if she goes from being a potential IRS criminal investigation target to an actual one.  The IRS performs extra reviews on a case against someone with a religious title prior to recommending prosecution to the Department of Justice.

If anyone has any corrections or additions to this list, any misspellings, please leave a comment or email me.  I don’t want to be accused of twisting and distorting.

My verse of the day is Romans 12:14 which reads:

Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

Ron forgot about that one 54 weeks ago when he issued his death curse against me to die speedily from the inside.

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18 Comments

  • todd says:

    WOW! does the 52 truth remove pain from childbirth too? that was part of the curse wasnt it?
    gotta love rw’s attempt to keep his church from deteriorating any more…LOL
    there’s still time to repent ronny! just come clean and stop the charade.

  • Dill Weed says:

    They are lined up for feeling special, then (wait for it), disappointment. It won’t be too long until they feel pretty foolish, too.

    Seems like there is a plan in place for stringing this thing out. Hopefully, the self aggrandizement will be over soon.

    Dill Weed

  • Aggie says:

    Todd beat me to it. Hope none of the faithful drops a sprog, that will CLEARLY (ahem) put that prophecy to paid!

  • Mark says:

    So, let me get this straight. God gave us the Bible, then God gave us Ron to revise the Bible at the “end time” through his “Truths”. Now God is telling Ron to go back and revise his “Truths” because they are not right.

    What to believe, what to believe. Hmm.

    I think Ron just is looking to shift the blame (hold others accountable in his business), should the IRS investigation not go in his favor. All of these newly ordained “officers” in his corporation could become culpable of Ron’s misdeeds.

  • Atrocious says:

    After reading this post, it brought to mind how a big-time criminal will hold hostages in lieu of immunity or ransom. Is that what he’s doing, holding hostages in his church – ordaining them so “they’re stuck” in Ronnie’s service? Oh sheesh! How long is this ludicrous charade going to go on??? What a crock!

  • Karen Mustard says:

    If it weren’t so tragic it would be hillarious!

  • Karen Mustard says:

    No more pain in birthing children may become a selling point of joining their religion. It may attract a few women! Till they have to push for 4 hours and endure a painful delivery. Then they will be gone! LOL

  • Till they have to push for 4 hours and endure a painful delivery.

    Nice euphamism for listening to one of his sermons.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Yes, time does slow when listening to his sermons.

  • Whisper says:

    Never did listen to a sermon beyond several minutes. I thought my preacher was dry… wheeeewhhhh was I wrong in comparison. Ron was so boring and dry that I found myself quickly caught up in the movement of clouds across the sky outside my window.
    Listened to a whole 8 minutes and was totaly in-impressed…
    Ron is not a spokesman, Ron is a con-man to the feeble with self created delusions of grandure.

    Where are the hundreds of thousands that will flock to un-known and un-heard of Ron? Even when the WCG was in full bloom it was so very small in comparrison. Ron’s reincarnation of WCG is but a fly-speck on the map of religion.

    Why hasn’t germany a-rison as politically evil and begun to re-arm its goose-stepping legions yet? Re-arming doesn’t happen over night ya know, takes years and years. Last estimate I got off the CIA-World webcenters is that it would take Germany some 8 dedicated years to become the be-all of Europe militarily. That is if a “Total-War” attitude was taken and the economy is geared for “war” only. This of course does not include nuklear arms which are banned in Germany as German owned. Guess they would have to ask Britian and France for the necessary weapons?

    But Germany is to arise now in a mere 2 years (leaving 6 months for a military rampage)?
    But Germany shows no signs of doing anything of the sort, and I do mean anything of the sort.

    Go figure?

  • xHWA says:

    I’m with Mark on this.

    If they are true, how the heck can they be changed? Something that is true cannot be changed, because that would mean that either it wasn’t true before, or it isn’t true any longer.

    Truths cannot be changed.
    Those are not truths.

  • xHWA says:

    “The number [of truths in the 18 truths list] is not important, but the truth is! You cannot change or alter what is true. Either it is miraculously received as a result of God’s direct revelation to us or it is not.”
    -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000
    http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html

    Soooo……
    Can you change the “truths” or can’t you?

  • xHWA says:

    “We have always known the importance of these three truths that were still a part of the Church during the time of Sardis. At the end of Philadelphia, after Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong died, we acknowledged there had been many truths revealed and restored to the Church through him. These were later classified into a list of eighteen truths. Since this list was a compilation of foundational truths, why would anyone object to the use of this list as being basic and foundational understanding that we are to hold fast? They are true and they were revealed by God through the power of His spirit. If they were not, then our faith is in vain. If these were not revealed through the power of God’s spirit, then any or all of these eighteen things may need changing. But if God did indeed reveal these, all should fear meddling with them! The truth is that those who do not like to hold fast to these truths are actually in disagreement with one or more of them.”
    -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000
    http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html

    A false prophet is always revealed by his own mouth.

  • xHWA says:

    “Today some ministers are boldly and defiantly teaching against the need to hold fast to [or to alter as needed] the eighteen truths revealed through Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. Instead, the idea of holding fast to such things is minimized, criticized, ridiculed, discredited, and disparaged [, or altered as becomes convenient]. Efforts to debunk or detract from [or alter] the genuine importance of these truths, as being restored to the Church during Philadelphia, are hideous acts of false witnessing.”
    -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000
    http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html

  • xHWA says:

    “No one has a right to change what is true. You only have a choice to accept or reject what is true. Most have been rejecting that truth. Will you, or have you already done so? If you have ever rejected some truth, you always have a choice to repent and seek God’s loving mercy. That is a choice, but changing God’s truth is not!”
    -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Feb/Mar 2000
    http://web.archive.org/web/20011017060233/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/00/february-march.html

    By his own mouth! Or keyboard, as the case may be.

  • xHWA says:

    “Yet today there are many who are tearing down this understanding. One evangelist is placing doubt in the minds of brethren by criticizing what was done during Philadelphia. Such tactics only serve to weaken the Church even more.
    Faithfully reviewing our history and acknowledging that this history is in perfect and complete harmony with the word of God and end-time prophecies should serve to strengthen brethren and sober us to the reality of how little time we have left to prepare ourselves. Yet this evangelist “of a large organization” waffles back and forth on this subject. He even plants the thought that there are experts who believe one of the two witnesses may fulfill this role of the Elijah to come. How could such a man be so blind, especially after all that he experienced in the Church during Philadelphia? ”
    -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Q4 2001
    http://web.archive.org/web/20020624195633/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/01/q4.html

    By his own mouth.

  • xHWA says:

    “The abomination of desolation that has been working to destroy the Church is the very power that works to dilute and change the word of God—the truths restored.”
    -Ron Weinland, News Watch, Q5 2002
    http://web.archive.org/web/20020624200752/cog-pkg.org/publications/nw/02/q1.html

    Oh.. from his own mouth!

  • Lori says:

    Okay, I can’t help but chuckle at your sense of humor in pointing out these SAD facts about the BLATANT failings of RW’s non-God inspired “revelations”. And so he really did pronounce a curse on you to “die speedily from the inside”?? Well, aren’t YOU special?? 🙂 The other poor blokes got cursed to “die SLOWLY from the inside”. Ugh. But like someone stated above…..”if it weren’t so tragic, it would be hilarious”. Christ, our Savior, and perfect Role Model, while dying on the cross, prayed for his enemies, “Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they are doing”.