They’re Picking on Me

False Prophet Ronald Weinland spoke yesterday from the Netherlands, on his second trip there during this year of Great Tribulation.  Ron delivered the sermon standing up instead of sitting as he normally does.  He described the TV program on Canada’s Vision TV network Friday night featuring the false prophet, including a post-presentation interview during which it came out that at the End it would be Ron Vs the pope.

Ron reiterated that he is both an apostle AND a prophet.  He is in rarefied company with the only other person in history having held both titles being John.  Ron spent some time defining the difference between the two roles.   An apostle reveals new doctrines, which Ron did during the 2005 feast with his origin-of-Christ doctrine.  A prophet — well a prophet prophesies.

Ron took some time to mention his critics, calling us vultures and mockers picking on him.  Which isn’t happening to other groups.  Well Ron, none of the other splinters has put out a specific date.  None of the other splinters is headed by someone claiming to be an End-Time Witness.  And none of the other splinters is headed by someone under criminal investigation.

The presence of “vultures” is a proof of PKG as the true church.  We’re doing this because we were put out of the church.  This is simply not true, at least not in my case.  I was not put out of the church.  Nor were any of Ron’s other critics as far as I know.

He again cautioned his followers against websites like mine.  Or listening to a relative who will point out websites like mine or any other website critical of him  He responded to an article posted on MSNBC and other websites during the last week or so which reads:

According to God’s Church minister Ronald Weinland, the end times were upon us — again. His 2006 book “2008: God’s Final Witness” stated that hundreds of millions of people will die, and by the end of 2006, “there will be a maximum time of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time of all human history. By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, and no longer exist as an independent nation.” As the book noted, “Ronald Weinland places his reputation on the line as the end-time prophet of God.”

This was characterized as “feces”. Think of all the thunders, like a downpour in the UK that caused some flooding.  Ron, shame on you.  As a witness you were supposed to stop it from raining.  It turns out that the US is not an independent nation because we trade with other nations and send ambassadors to them.  I thought this was always the case, but I must have been imagining what is only a recent development.  The world is in the worst time of all human history, we’re just not aware of it yet.  Things that didn’t happen in his book don’t make the book false.

Ron took a trip down memory lane, repeating his claim of having resigned from UCG on Pentecost of 1997 (June 15 that year) which contradicts his own writings of 1998 that the resignation had been on May 30, 1997.  Not only does Ron reinvent the future as circumstances require, he does the same with the past. Then he talked about his “Newswatch” periodical published intermittently during 1998 through 2002, and his two booklets “Time is Running Out” and “Time has Run Out”.  Ending with his latest book which his father-in-law Carroll Short encouraged him to write as he was dying of liver cancer.  Ron wrote all of this material despite hating to write and not being good at the English language.  He failed to mention Larry Spivey who spent a lot of time and suffered a lot of abuse editing his prose.

The Great Tribulation will be less than 2 1/2 years but will come to pass.  He warned against interpreting his prophetic writings in “2008 – God’s Final Witness” in a literal physical way — it will all come to pass in its time. Being written in a prophetic manner makes it hard to understand his books. Stay tuned for Ron to provide the interpretation as the process develops.  He acknowledged that the timing of events has changed, because of the 50th truth, but insists that it’s all going to come true in God’s time.

Ron has practically given up on prophesying because he doesn’t have the foggiest notion what’s going to happen next as God hasn’t revealed it to him.  It will be revealed to him at the same time it’s revealed to the rest of us — when it happens.  He hasn’t called down any plagues or stopped the rain.  Nor have his death curses had any effect as I’m still alive 48 weeks later after he issued one against me. Some witness!!! Ron, I think God fired you and forgot to send you a pink slip.

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  • AggieAtheist says:

    “The presence of “vultures” is a proof of PKG as the true church. We’re doing this because we were put out of the church. This is simply not true, at least not in my case. I was not put out of the church. Nor were any of Ron’s other critics as far as I know.”

    I wasn’t “put out of the church” either, my family were walkaways. And funny, do you know, the year after the “We Are Family” film at the Feast 1995, not one single member of the ministry or the church called us, to find out why we had stopped attending services? Mind, it was kind of hard to tell that we had stopped, since we had reduced our Sabbath attendance to maybe once a month, if that, and the church was no longer taking attendance at the door.

    We just drifted away…..

  • Dill Weed says:

    It makes perfect sense. Ron was writing the book in prophetic language which may or may not mean what it literally or physically says and therefore can only be understood through interpretation provided by Ron and such interpretations will change according to Ron’s need at the moment.

    Slippery, slippery.

    Dill Weed

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    I wasn’t kicked out either – I left.

    He really is insane isn’t he – he’s getting worse.

  • Matt says:

    Maybe we should tell Ron that this blog is also written in prophetic language, and that it is really the Ronald Weinland Appreciation Society.

  • Whisper says:

    “The Great Tribulation will be less than 2 1/2 years but will come to pass.”

    Why did God state in the Bible, any bible – pick one, that the Great Tribulation will be 3-1/2 years if he had no intention of giving a 3-1/2 year Great Tribulation but in fact a 2-1/2 year Great Tribualation? If the Great Tribulation does not begin, and horrible Tribulating things do not happen, on December 15 2009 then what? Will the Great Tribulation becomes 2 years? 1-1/2 Years? 1 Year? 6 Months?
    Why state 3-1/2 at all?
    Answer: Because it is rather possible that God ment 3-1/2 Years to mean 3-1/2 Years!
    Deduction: Ron aint a prophet, Apostle, Witness, minister, man of God…
    Ron just aint… (please excuse the horrible Tribulating grammer of “aint”).

  • Xer says:

    I wasn’t kicked out either. I also walked away. But I heard RW lecture on this too, along the lines of those with questions and doubts have some unaddressed sin in their lives. No spirit and of course that causes anxiety! I wondered why the congregation never really studied afterward on his lectures, prophesies, timelines, mathematics, etc. I thought that was the meaning of fellowship but apparently it was just what an awesome message that was, then feasting and superficial small talk. Just keep playing those MP3’s of his sermons (lectures) all day until you are brainwashed. I heard him talk about some people that quit their jobs and sold their homes along the 1st timeline and he implied that he didn’t tell them to do that. Of course they misunderstood. I wonder where their money is. I really feel sorry for them.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Ron’s standard spiel is that if you have a problem with him or his false prophecies, then you have sin in your life. The linked example is not the only one that’s been related to me as Weinland’s standard tactic.

    Ron is blameless — it’s all your fault.

  • AggieAtheist says:

    “Ron’s standard spiel is that if you have a problem with him or his false prophecies, then you have sin in your life. “

    This was, and still is, a standard ploy in the CoG playbooks, even to this very day.