Comments on: Apostle Ronald Weinland

By: AggieAtheist

AggieAtheist — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:48:07 +0000

Thanks for the link to Matches in the Gas Tank, Mike. The excerpt and synopsis just highlights (for me) the differences (as well as the disturbing similarities) that took place between the Radio Church of God days, and the Worldwide era that I grew up in. Listening to the UCG lifers wax rhapsodic in their "75 Years of False Prophecy and Still Going Strong!" Feast video of a couple of years ago, I was struck again by how very liberal the church was, before the "get the church back on TRACK" era that I grew up in. I hope Carla does well with her memoir, even though it reflects a much gentler Armstrongism than I was exposed to.

By: Debbie

Debbie — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:51:52 +0000

Tongue in Cheek – “What’s next – Pastor General”??

Looks to me like Ronnie & company are steering the sheeple away from prophecy focus and reinforcing the “group mentality” – words like followers, family and true church instead of thunders & trumpets – reinforcing the ‘us’ v.s. ‘them’ way of thinking

The followers will be ok with that, cuz their needs are being met – they are still part of an elite ‘called out’ group and are ‘special’ – and next year they get rewarded with a full 7 days of Feasting -

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:28:17 +0000

“Wayne would make a great cheerleader”

I totally agree…all the so called ministers would be better off in skirts…they are anything but men.

By: Dill Weed

Dill Weed — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:45:56 +0000

Pretty soon Ron will be sitting second in the saddle with Christ. The question that comes to mind though is will Ron be behind Christ or sitting up front.

Dill Weed

By: Whisper

Whisper — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:08:19 +0000

One can obviously do a lot of thinking while being driven to Detroit by ones wife can one not? Now Ron’s a Apostle as well, one more title in a slew of titles that will be rather hard to fit onto a business card. He’s this and he’s that, he’s a witness, a spokesman, a prophet, a minister, the leader of the one church, a Apostle, father Christmas, John F. Kennedy, Gandi, Adam, Batman & Robin, etc… He’s all that and a side of chips I tells ya!
The more time his has to sit and think about it the more important he becomes and the more time he has to undermine Jesus’s authority and slowly chip away at his very own Lord so that Ron becomes a close 2nd in command after the Christ… and possibly a co-equal in time?
I’ve got a title too, I’m a human being and I personally humbly have Christ as Lord.
I like my title oh so more than Ron’s many. None of the regalness, but much more comfortable and easy to live with.
Go figure?

By: Kirrily XPKG

Kirrily XPKG — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:26:19 +0000

Wayne would make a great cheerleader. Used to have a lot of respect for him and Chris – no more. “Go Ronnie, Go Ronnie – GO GO GO!!”

By: Mike (DDTFA)

Mike (DDTFA) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:18:09 +0000

I found an archived UCG holy daze calendar, which also gives June 15 as the date for Pentecost in 1997. Apologists for Herbie say that he wasn't a prophet because he didn't claim to be one. Here's a clip from "Matches in the Gas Tank" that says differently. Herbert Armstrong spoke on the Feast of Trumpets 1967, and opened with:

Herbert W. Armstrong walked to the podium and stood before the mike. He was middle-aged, prosperously rotund, and clothed in a fine wool suit. His full gray hair was combed straight back; his cold stare pierced rimless glasses. His bearing was regal; he radiated authority. His voice exuded charisma: a beautiful baritone with the timbre of a finely-tuned instrument. Each word was delivered with absolute conviction because, as he told us, God had given him extraordinary intelligence and speaking ability so he could serve as His emissary on earth. “Eight years from today, Jesus Christ will return,” Mr. Armstrong thundered, holding his Bible in the air.

Like xHWA says, prophecy is as prophecy does. Herbie claimed to speak for God as his Apostle, and he prophesied Christ's return on the Feast of Trumpets, 1975. Case closed, False Prophet Herbert W Armstrong. Take him out and stone him (Deut 18:20-22). Never mind, too late. Herbie lived another 18 years, dying of old age in his mansion in Pasadena.

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:44:35 +0000

The only reason he wishes the Internet wasn’t around is because of the sites which (rightfully) challenge his authority on Bible prophecy. Weinland followers- take note- you leader is “never coming home” again as a “prophet”.

He has admitted to being a false prophet (e.g. if his prophecies don’t materialize, as they have not, then he is a false prophet), so that’s the end of the story for me. He deserves nothing more than the ridicule of the faithful. What a loser!