The Weinland Gap Closes

False Prophet Ronald Weinland and False Prophetess Laura Weinland overcame the adversity of crashing airline computers and returned to Cincinnati to deliver his latest sermon.

According to Ron, his head was swimming last Saturday in Rye when he gave his letdown of a highly anticipated and oft-advertised Last Great Day sermon.  Ron, who graduated from Ambassador College with a minor in math, was confused by numbers and in turn gave a confusing sermon.  When I ran the numbers and determined a 280-day period of mercy and judgment which ended Trumpets of 2009 followed immediately by a  980-day period would end the day before Pentecost of 2012, and the combination would parallel his 1260-day second timeline, it was arrogantly pointed out to me that I didn’t have ears to hear.  Thus I had my nose rubbed in the Weinland Gap.

Ron posted a PDF file on his website.  The interesting part is shown below, with corrections by yours truly.

Weinland's Timeline Chart, Corrected

Weinland's Timeline Chart, Corrected

The tan timeline shows the original second timeline [talk about an oxymoron 😀 ].  The notation on it is confusing, implying that May 27, 2012 is part of the timeline which is not the case.  So I’ve marked it up in red, to show that the timeline ends with the day before Pentecost of 2012, on May 26.  Below that is the revision, with the 1260 days split into the first, throwaway 280-day time shown in orange and the new version of “time, times, and half-a-time” shown in yellow.  The orange timeline is properly notated, as the first day was Dec 14, 2008 and the last day was September 19, 2009.  The yellow timeline begins the following day, September 20.  And it ends on May  26, 2012, despite the confusing notation just like the tan timeline that it ends on May 27.  So I corrected it in red just as I did the tan timeline.

In summary, the 980-day period does not begin the 2nd day after Trumpets, but rather the day after Trumpets.  So the Weinland Gap between the 280-day period and the 980-days period has disappeared.  And Pentecost of 2012 is not part of the count.  But there still is a Weinland Gap — right between Ron’s ears.

I’m still confused.  If God revealed this new truth to Ron, then why did he get it wrong?  Or was God confused?  Is God a confused liar who fooled Ron with the first timeline and then gave him a confused revision to the second timeline?  Or does Ron not have ears to hear what God is telling him?  What else did he get wrong?

No, I think it’s like this.  To paraphrase a saying: “Figures lie, and insane lying false prophets figure.”  But they don’t always get their figures right the first time.

At the feasts of 2007 and 2008, Ron announced that there would not be a feast held the following year and that the members should take their second tithe and send it in.  This year he didn’t repeat that announcement and mandate.  In the sermon he clarified and told his members to hang on to it for now but he might demand it later. If Ron is not immobilized by either health or legal problems, there will be a PKG feast next year.

A few more questions for you, Ron:

  • Ron, you said that Pentecost 2012 had to be included in the 980-day count to be significant.  Since it’s no longer included in the 980 days and therefore is no longer significant, will you be observing it?
  • How are the earthquakes coming along, now that we’re 4 weeks into your shortened timeline for the Great Tribulation?
  • How are you going to squeeze 42 months of beast power into 980 days less the 28 that have elapsed since Trumpets?
  • Ron, you say you were apprehensive as the 280th day (Trumpets) approached.  Did you get even the slightest hint that God was annoyed with you by making you too ill to preach?
  • And when will my quick death from the inside happen, as it’s now a revised 280-day-time + 3 weeks after you pronounced your death curse on me?


  • Steve says:

    Quote ” it was arrogantly pointed out to me that I didn’t have ears to hear”

    You know Mike, …i personally think either Ron has or “is” posing as a follower of himself and posting responses to people exposing him. The person on Jacks blog “could” be him….ya never know seeing that his ego is so huge, he can’t help but read about himself and visit these areas “of evil” whilst forbidding his followers to do so. “Do what i say, not what i do” seems to be his “condition” from the get go so i wouldnt be surprised if he is doing that in this manner also.

    In regard to everythin else that spews out his ____ filled contradicting lying deceiving manipulating mouth he is as usual completely reliable in his constant never failing illogical logic.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Steve, I see this as a possibility, but only a bare sliver of a possibility.

    In his latest sermon, Ron corrected himself to align with my initial impression of his revised timeline. Which would tend to contradict your premise.

    I think that my blog postings are having an effect on Ron, but not a direct effect. I doubt that he reads my blog, but some of his members so, and they ask questions for which he has to come up with an explanation. No matter how lame the explanation, it prevails for the PKG members. His “illogical logic” is good enough for them because they want to believe.

  • AggieAtheist says:

    In other news, another false prophet has died this year. Let’s hope Weinland isn’t still fleecing his sheeple at 73 like this woman! (And she did it with Alzheimer’s disease no less!)

  • Mark says:

    All these shifting timelines and changing days in the year all stem from one thing: Ron Weinland is incapable of humbling himself and admitting that his prophecies are false. He will get to the point where he is babling to himself either in a mental hospital or in jail. To follow Ron means that you believe that God is feeding Ron all this balogna. At least in the beginning Ron didn’t try to use critical thinking or mathematics to justify his predictions- he said they were true because he said they were true. Now he is using new math to further confuse everyone.
    The more Ron speaks, the more he backs himself into a corner. Only the truly deluded will continue following this man. What a waste of time.
    The real problem is that his followers have mentally checked out of this life. Can they ever check themselves back in?

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    That Mark, is certainly the question. Can they check back into life indeed after all this time. To be honest, I am still struggling with it, after 10 months.

  • J says:

    As a blog administrator, couldn’t Jack check the IP address of that “Anonymous” guy? That’d say right away if it’s not him.

  • Mark says:

    “To be honest, I am still struggling with it, after 10 months.”

    I can empathize with you as the only reason I follow a blog like this is because I am an “Armstrong Survivor”. It took over 5 years once I gave it all up and washed my hands of it that I could say that I have “moved on”. Some may argue that posting on this blog says that I haven’t, but, I have stopped trying to figure out God’s will in my life or find “the truth”.
    The “truth” is, I believe there’s only one revelation, and that is that Christ died for us that we may have life. Beyond that, I don’t claim special knowledge. Folks like Weinland, Armstrong, and all the other COG ministers (and some in the larger Christian community), claim knowledge but are woefully ignorant of even the basics of the Bible. They set themselves up as spiritual pillars, but are hollow empty tombs who can only feel useful when they are controlling others.

    As for Weinland’s latest mathematical mystery, it should just underscore the depths of self delusionment that one can go to. This world IS a difficult world to navigate. It doesn’t help the we are “dumped” here knowing nothing and have to figure it out from teachers and parents and other influencial people. In the end, I believe that God has a special place for those who seek Him, but are misled. The kingdom is not about knowledge but a promise. That’s what I hang my hat on every day.

  • Karen Mustard says:

    I’m in your boat Mark….

  • RK says:

    Karen, count me in that boat as well.

    Mark, I don’t think I can remember someone putting it together as well as you have done with your comment. And even though your past it all, nevertheless, comments like yours are doing a very worthwhile service. My opinion.

    People in Ron’s church who read this blog, and others who may be “sitting on the fence” regarding RW need to read from people like you who have “been there and done that”. And got the tee-shirt, I might add. 🙂

    You said “This world IS a difficult world to navigate. It doesn’t help that we are “dumped” here knowing nothing and have to figure it out from teachers and parents and other influencial people.”

    So true. And if I can add, although I’m sure it’s what you are saying; That after coming into this world, knowing nothing, and having our heads filled (or crammed) with all this “knowledge”, the day comes, to look at our teachers, mentors, “apostles”, and “prophets”, who we had the highest respect for, and the knowledge they gave to us, that we considered so very sacred; to have the courage to face them and call B.S. when and where we see it.

    As Paul would say, “To no longer be children”.

    I apologize if I’m sounding preachy. I just say that because I think that is probably the big lesson that Ron’s members need to learn.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    I’m with you guys.

  • Norbert says:

    I am NOT so sure to stop “trying to figure out God’s will in my life or find “the truth”, those words taken at face value is a good idea. But I agree “This world IS a difficult world to navigate. It doesn’t help that we are “dumped” here knowing nothing and have to figure it out from teachers and parents and other influential people.”

    I am of the opinion it has less to do with the ‘who’ you believe and much more to do with the ‘what’ you believe. Because it is the latter which defines the former. Whether it is folks like Weinland, Armstrong or any person even Jesus Christ.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Norbert, regarding your last statement, I think that’s a better approach for engaging in religion.

    Unfortunately, in cults such as COG-PKG it works the opposite. “What” PKG members believe is determined by the latest statements of “Whom” they believe, their spiritual idol Ron Weinland. He tells them that Jesus did not exist prior to being born of Mary, they believe it. He tells them the timeline is changing, they believe it. He tells them the timeline is shortened by a redefinition of “times”, they believe it. And they’ll believe whatever explanation he comes up with for the non-return of Christ at Pentecost of 2012.