Silence on the Internet For More Than The Space of Half-an-Hour

Yesterday’s services from False Prophet Ronald Weinland had the least number of false prophecies of any of his sermons that I’ve heard.  While the streaming Internet audio feed came up, it was totally silent. ;)

FOT_hotel_3But later in the afternoon, a recording was placed on the PKG website.  Ron was in Chandler, AZ (Phoenix metro) and it was hot there.  Ron offered an explanation for his absence last weekend.  Seems that his allergies kicked up and he wasn’t up to speaking.  During the sermon, Ron came close to repeating his rant against people who throw around their used towels in the bathroom.  Ron did repeat his teaser for his latest revelation to be added-on to the 50th untruth during the Feast of Tabernacles as PKG members assemble at various locations including the one pictured.

Last week was the 40th sabbath of the not-so-Great Tribulation — could some kind of judgment have been rendered that prevented our formidable Spokesman Witness from making his scheduled appearance? Food for thought.

Yesterday was the 40th sabbath since Ron placed a death curse on me.   So I nervously awaited sundown and breathed a deep sigh of relief as it came and my end had not come.  Not!! — the nervousness, that is.  I’m still breathing and blogging. :-D

25 Comments

  • Dill Weed says:

    Ron’s litter fetish kicked up. LOL. But, it didn’t drop to its depth of depths. Undiscarded used paper towels. Sick world. Sick world.

    Ron likes Germany’s cleanliness. But, doesn’t like London because it is not kept up. The travails of a tithe funded globe trotter.

    Tick Tock, ho-hum sermons aside, time passes by and the vice closes.

    Dill Weed

  • jack635 says:

    And we must not forget that the Paris subway smells like urine. Poor Ron, having to smell an unpleasant odor. If the words that came out of our mouths had odors (nice things smell like roses and lies smell like fart), then during one of Ron’s sermons we would all be gagging and wretching.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Just letting you know I am still alive too. Phew!! :-)

  • Matt says:

    I want a death-curse too, but I am not sure I have the discipline to maintain a quality blog like this for years before gettin one. Is there a shortcut? Like, getting cursed by ron for dummies?
    I’ll also take getting struck by ronnies awesome fire-breath, or being struck by even a small plague. I have a small vegetable patch that I am certain can comfortably house a moderate plague of locusts, for instance?
    I don’t want to seem pushy – I know there is a long line of more accomplished mockers before me, but I do feel that with two dedicated witnesses, we ought to see a bit more personal attention.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    ROLFLMAO!!! Matt – classic!

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Matt, I do believe you qualify. But the Two Witlesses have been lazy. Their death curses don’t follow through, and they haven’t been calling down plagues or stopping the rain. Perhaps God will fire them and start over later.

  • Graham says:

    Ronald Weinland has now broken up another family, my wife and I have been together for 15 years, only 2 years ago she had pre-natal depression and thought she had symptoms for cancer and looked at the end of the world. She is a baptised and tithe paying pkg member and now hates me because I cannot accept his false teachings.
    She wants a separation and is trying to take my children aged 4 and 7 away from me.
    I wish someone in America would do something about this evil man.

  • todd says:

    sorry to hear about your family graham.
    we will keep you in our prayers. Hopefully God will open your wifes eyes to the false prophet RW soon.

  • Whisper says:

    Graham, I’m so sorry to hear of your travails. I’m sorry to hear that your family is being ripped apart by this insane lieing man who feeds the “end of the world” depressions people fall into. Ron will not stop, bet on it. He will never quite as long as $$ is rolling in and it matters not a whit how many people have to be hurt and maimed for him to make a buck. The man has no problems of concious by tearing apart families ripping up marriages if he could make a simple $20 from it.
    If I might give a small advise, for there are others here with much more intimate knowledge of ol Ron than mere I, that the solution to the problem is no with the silence of Ron, but at the hearing end. Ron will not be silenced, but he can be “not heard”. How does one attain this for others? Dunno… But rest assured if you attempt such with Gods good grace you will not only be saving yourself, but your wife and children as well. We pray for you my brother, may God relieve your wife of her delusion that she has found in Ron.

  • xHWA says:

    Very, very sorry to hear about your situation, Graham. My whole heart and deepest prayers go out for you and your family.

    That’s absolutely despicable what Ron is causing. I suppose this effectively illustrates that Ron and his kind are harmful in many more ways than just financially.

  • Matt says:

    Hi Graham. I am sorry to hear of your situation. I cannot imagine what you must be going through.

    Can you not make a deal with her? Ron said that by the exact playing out of his predictions will he be known as a true prophet or not. He gave a clear date for one of them – the collapse of the US as an independent nation. This would begin in the fall of 2008, would take a maximum of 6 months, but there was a 6 month vague area that may or may not come in between. You can look all this up in his book 2008 – Gods Final Witness.

    If he is a prophet, the US will have ceased to be an independent nation by the end of this year, maximum. If this does not happen, then according to himself, he is not a prophet.

    So make her a deal – if by January 2010 the USA will have been destroyed, conquered or otherwise deprived of its nationhood, you will convert, be baptised, raise the kids in the church, pay your tithes, and generally do anything she wants. If she wants a seperation on top of that, she can have that too. And sole, uncontested custody. Everything, without a struggle. Ypu will freely admit she was right all along and throw yourself unconditionally on her mercy.

    If not, then everyone sits down and re-appraises the situation, and see if you can’t save your marriage with a bit of work and goodwill from both sides.

    Cant say fairer that that, can you? And waiting 3 months for the sake of 15 years does not see a lot to ask…

  • Will Johnson says:

    Hi I just came across this guy Ron and was kinda shocked with his delusional tantrums. Keep up the good work people and I will pray for your family Graham. Your wife needs your love and support now more than ever. “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” 1 Corinthians 13:13

  • misfit says:

    Graham, I am so sorry. You and your family will be in my prayers.

  • Dill Weed says:

    Graham,

    Make your case once – hitting the big points. Then don’t say anything again – unless asked. You could refer her to this site.

    You have a relationship with her; Ron doesn’t. You are just getting puish back from attacking her beliefs. You must allow her to save face by not trying to beat the Ron out of her. Focus on being a loving husband and life partner. Time and God will discredit Ron. Read my blog and this blog to make your case.

    ronaldweinlandtheprophetwhofailed.blogspot.com

    Dill Weed

  • angel says:

    Graham,

    My heart goes out to you. Believe me, we all wish RW would be stopped, too; but since we can’t physically stop him from telling lies we do the next best thing, tell the truth about him.

    Your wife needs your understanding now like never before. She is filled with fear, and she’s been deceived; its natural to react with anger toward you because it effectively covers the fear and the hurt she feels because you’re not supporting her in this. I don’t suggest you should support her, but at this point in time she’s not ready to listen to what you have to say, so if you can buy some time she may come to realize he is false. Love her and ask God to open her eyes, He’s the only one that can.

    In situations like this the more someone feels attacked the more they will defend what they believe. Nobody likes to be wrong, and cults like this control their followers by instilling them with fear. Let God help you overcome your own fear, of losing your family, and give you the peace and love you need to deal with this. Remember, God knows what you’re going thru and He cares for you.

  • Karen Mustard says:

    Hi Graham. It’s hard to hear your story. I feel bad for you. I think you are given good advice here on this forum about leaving her and her religion alone. If you can simply stay positive about her as a woman/person, let her own her beliefs; hopefully she’ll come around. If not, you’ll have many instances of “giving in” because that way of life is very demanding on its members and anyone who wants a relationship with their members. But, although it will be hard to do, it will still be worth it for your kids and her if/when she leaves the cult. It’s a very difficult place you’ve found yourself in. :(

  • warthpublishinginc says:

    Jesus said you will know the false prophets by their fruit. I think anyone would agree that broken marriages are bad fruit.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Graham, it’s a tough situation. Relationships are hard enough without false prophets getting involved and gumming up the works. Since I don’t have your full story, I don’t know how much of the advice could fit your situation. But I think it’s clear that people care.

    Feel free to share on the blog, if you like. Or if you have any questions, you may contact me at the email address on the mailbox picture on the right side of the blog.

  • J says:

    That story just hurts, Graham. I am so sorry for the situation you are in. Being of that attitude puts a person in direct conflict with anyone with common sense.

    I’m sure Kirrily could sympathize most of all. Based on her story, her husband could have easily have been in that same situation if she had continued in PKG. (BTW Kirrily, I in no way mean to presume what would have happened back then, my apologies if I am off-base)

  • Graham says:

    Dear All -Thank you for your kind comments and advice ,but my wife will not come out of the cult unless something shows the other pkg members that ron is false -she got her younger sister into the pkg and she is now married and living in texas (coffee cakes )-therefore even if my wife stops believing -she would not desert her sister .
    Time will have to sort this out and God willing have a happy ending -not doom and gloom.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Hi J: not off base at all. To be honest, I haven’t been on here much because hubbie and I are at the brink. He put up with me all through this Ron bullshit, now on the other side – well, things change.

    Hopefully will get sorted.

    Graham – I am truly sorry. I see that your wife is totally engrained in this cult – as was I. It is evil, more than evil – words can not describe.

    At least I have no kids involved.

    I am truly sorry, and wish I could offer some comfort. I am tortured now as it is – things are not good.

  • Dill Weed says:

    Kirrily,

    See my new post – A Balm for All Relationships. Two Practices That Always Work.

    Dill Weed

  • whatmeworry says:

    Graham, I was a second generationer when I married a non member back in the 70′s. My spouse never had an opinion about the WCG, and even attended with me once in awhile. It took alot of years, but I did come to my senses eventually. I think your emphasis should be on your children and marriage, even if you have to swallow hard and bite your tongue ALOT. You do NOT have to compromise your beliefs, but if you can try to keep the peace for awhile, I truly believe that your wife will see your faith and love just in your actions. Everyone wants to have a spouse that believes the same thing as you do, but there are plenty of happy “mixed” religious marriages. Evolution not revolution. Take a breather and let us all pray in your behalf. We have all had miracles, maybe you are due yours. Have faith.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    It takes two to make a marriage, and only one to break it. Generically good advice, but: According to Graham, his wife is insisting that he convert. And that’s a bit too much commitment to expect in a marriage.

  • Atrocious says:

    I was in the church since young teen, married in the church, had children. The changes came. I became liberal, he became even more Armstrong…restudying all his literature and recommitting to all the Armstrong teachings. I gave him unconditional love. He became even more controlling, domineering, insisting I “keep the sabbath” because I was “part of the household”, etc. I ended up leaving. Best thing I ever did. But, by that time the children were old enough to be on their own. Should have left earlier. Anyway, just my experience. My heart goes out to you, Graham.

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