APB for Ron

False Prophet Ronald Weinland was scheduled to be in Georgia today according to his blog.  Whether or not he is there, he did not make a personal appearance on the Internet at his normal time of 2:30 PM eastern.  Instead, a pre-recorded sermon is on his church website for download.

This contradicts his announced plans from last Saturday.  A pre-recorded sermon for Trumpets was to be on the website for overseas locations with earlier timezones, but this was supposed to be in a secret location sent via email to overseas members.  Instead, the sermon was put in the normal location for the link to the live streams last night, and is still there.

At the beginning of the recorded sermon, Ron states that it is for the overseas brethren and that the US would be getting a live sermon.
Where Ron has placed his name
So, where’s Ron.  Did he suffer a second heart attack?  Did the IRS finally make their case and scoop him up?  Or did he feel them closing in and decide to make himself scarce?

Or as is more likely, did Jeremy put the sermon up last night and then forget to change the link back to the streaming audio before time for normal services?  Inquiring minds want to know.

His pre-recorded sermon was a teaser for the LGD sermon when he’s going to reveal the add-on to the 50th truth.  He stopped himself a couple of times and changed the subject before revealing any spoilers.  Other than that, today, the Feast of Trumpets, is the 40th sabbath of the Great Tribulation.

It’s now 3 weeks from the Last Great Day, 2 weeks from the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles and 2 weeks and 3 days from when PKG members will assemble in hotels like the one pictured.

And now only one more week from the 40th sabbath since Ron Weinland uttered his curse that I would die quickly from the inside.


  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Such cloak and daggar type stuff – maybe he is a fan of Dan Brown? 🙂

  • Robert47 says:

    I stick to my #1 rule about religion. The #1 rule I use is to not get envolved with any religious ministry of any type. I just stick to meditating on the Creator and doing what is right. Far as i can tell even the GOD of the modern bible on gave 10 commandments. Just 10 rules to live by! Its mankind and its regulatory way of thinking that that created formal religious practice. Far as tithing goes, I would give it to a hungry man or women/family, before I would give it to a church organization to build their multi-milllion dollar buildings and pay for their lear jets, and million dollar homes….ect ect ect. I guess its the weakness of some that they have a great need to belong to some group or another that causes them to fall for scammers/false prophets/hucksters/liars, that pass them selves off to be men and women of GOD. In all, i just do not trust belonging to ANY formal organization/church.

    Ronald Weinland, is just 1 more in a long line of bogus hucksters scamming well meaning folks out of their hard earned money!

  • Dill Weed says:

    I can’t wait for Ron to fizzle.

    Dill Weed

  • angel says:

    Interesting how different RW’s church is from the ministry of Jesus and the early church; attendance is by special secret invitation only, and you must pay tithes before you can be baptized. It reminds me of trying to get into a Masonic Lodge; you have to know someone and be invited, and pay your dues before you can be initiated! All that’s missing is the blood oath and the handshake.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    If Ron didn’t speak today because of some calamity on this, the 40th sabbath of the Great Tribulation, would that be a spiritual sign of some sort?

  • AggieAtheist says:

    “…would that be a spiritual sign of some sort?”

    Ah ha ha ha ha the irony is precious!

  • jack635 says:

    If I remember correctly, Ron had a headache last “sermon”. Maybe he subsequently got a worse headache, dizziness, and trouble speaking.
    We will find out this coming saturday if he is sick.

  • Lucian RosKe says:

    You keep hanging in there reporting on Ronnie. What tenacity. His monotony has just about put me to sleep. Well, it’s a dirty job, but some one’s got to do it. Thanks for your dedication to such a thankless endeavor.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    Yeah, Ronnie has been kind of boring lately. But I have a feeling that things are going to get interesting again.

    Also not entirely thankless. Not everyone who reads my blog and websites leaves public comments.

  • Whisper says:

    “LGD sermon when he’s going to reveal the add-on to the 50th truth.”

    That should be a fun serman ay what? A 51st truth would be such a laugh, while a “edit/addition” to the 50th would, while being more sly about it, be a incredulous laugh as in “how much garbage can a mainline COG-PKG’r actually take?”. A edit’ed 50th truth would be such a lame excuse and opens up the door to a 2nd edit and a 3rd and a… When one gets to the end of ones rope, he ties a knot and hanges on… and keeps tieing knots to keep the rank an files from abandoning ship.

    Or will it be something completely new thereby leaving the 50 truths intact, like the infamous “fast” where Gods plans for Gods Big 42 month, end of the world, show is postponed?

    How whack is whack? How long can a person mentally hang on to such tripe and yet continue to give thier money to fund such chinanagans? Of course I pay money to the our government to do such circus acts as well, but my excuse is that they force me to do it with real imprisonment, like behind bars, if I dont. To do it when one does not have to leads me to think “who are these people and where in thier childhood did they go so horribly wrong that they would finance such monsters in thier aduthood?

    Go figure?

  • misfit says:

    Angel – in a way RW is getting his blood oath as he’s bleeding many of these people dry (of their money).

  • DRMR says:

    In the 40th minute of the sermon, Ron is explaining the first few verses of John chapter 10, how the sheep recognize the Shepherds’ voice, and how the sheep will flee upon hearing a strangers’ voice that they don’t recognize.

    He applies this to the church, that when they hear sermons, they recognize things that are true, because God opens the mind to recognize those things.

    He goes on to say that “a stranger they will not follow, but will flee from him”, saying that the church members will also recognize when someone says or does something wrong, and will realize “this doesn’t make sense, this doesn’t follow the flow”.

    And at 40:48 it sounds like he says “they realize there’s a con”. I could be wrong about that, but it sure sounds like it.

    My point is that, if this isn’t irony, I don’t know what is.

    It reminds me of how Herbert always used to quote the scripture that says “Satan is transformed as an angel of light, and so it should be no wonder that his ministers are transformed as ministers of righteousness”.

    Little did most churchmembers know then, that Herbert was describing himself, just as Ron is now doing.

    The depths to which deception can reach!

    I just wonder, that when the light finally shines, which won’t be too long, what is Ron going to say to the ticked-off members of his church?

    What can he say?

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    I don’t think he will say anything. Just disappear. He won’t have the guts to face them.

  • angel says:


    Good one, hadn’t thought of that. There’s just something so squirrelly about keeping the location secret and having to be a member to attend; it’s schoolyard mentality, like kids wanting to be in a secret club. He’s either afraid of being challenged; a complete control freak who wants to keep everyone under his thumb; arrogant and thinks his church is so special not just anyone can get in; or a combination thereof.

    False prophets always find a way to explain themselves; their numbers may go way down after a time, but because they’ve been able to convince themselves of lies for so long they seem able to keep doing it, and there always seems to be people out there who are willing to allow themselves to be deceived – even by a has-been failed false prophet.

  • Mike (DDTFA) says:

    DRMR, I heard the same thing. In the context, he was referring to other ministers as perpetrating the con. Too bad the PKGers can’t recognize the Ron Con.

    I tend to believe that the first person Ron conned was Ron. Second person was Laura.

  • DRMR says:

    Yeah, it’s ironic that the guy perpetrating the con is warning the people about being conned.

    Maybe it’s just my own wishful thinking, but I can’t help but think that one of these days, somebody is going be successful at taking one of these cult leaders to court.

    The reason: Obtaining money from people through fraudulent means.

    And the case would stand on positive proof that the cult leader isn’t who he fraudulently claimed he was, and that his “prophecies” are false, and that he obtained money through these false claims.

    In Ron Weinlands’ case, by Pentecost of 2012 it would be a slam-dunk as far as proof is concerned, at least I think so.

    And I understand that these people are pretty much untouchable because of freedom of religion in this country.

    But I would think that one of these days, a judge would make an exception.

    And the reason would be that, just like we have freedom of speech in this country, that doesn’t mean that someone can yell “Fire” in a crowded theater, as they say.

    It seems that a judge could make a ruling in a religious case that would stand on similiar grounds, that freedom of religion doesn’t mean that someone can use fraudulent religious pretenses to con (or scare) people out of their money.

    And I got to say, again, it’s just wishful thinking.

  • Whisper says:


    I agree with your sentament but the can of worms opened up when convicting one of these fraudulent people would endanger many indeed for religion and theology and faith are all non-corpreal things, non-solid. The money, on the other hand, is solid but given to a non-corpreal reason by the owner of said money willingly.
    It’s a Con, but it’s a non-provable Con even with Rons books to, seemingly, convict him as they can be changed by later statements such as a “fast” or somesuch that will therefor make the books invalid without, at the same time mind you, not forming a new provable fraudulent charge as the effects of this fast can not be prooved to be non-effective in pushing the end dates even further out…

    It’s a fools errand me thinks?
    In the end I think it best to live by the motto “False teachers only teach falsly, it is I would decides to be taught or not”. Live and let die?

    I am hoping for a much greater justice in the form of God Almighty one day sitting down across a large wood table from Ron in a private room in the Castles of Heaven and demanding an explanation why Ron would mislead Gods good children, that God loves so, for a few measly bucks? The only meadiator in the room would be Christ and he would have the same look as God upon his face, one of anger and pity all warped up in one, while staring at Ron, like God does, awaiting an answer…
    It’s a chilling mental image.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    This is going to sound bitter, and I guess it is, but if God loves us so much, then why does he allow people like Ron to CONTINUE.

    Where are HIS curses in Deut that he promised false prophets?

    Why does he allow the wolf to come in and kill all the sheep? Where is the shepard?

    Makes me wonder is all.

  • whatmeworry says:

    Kirrily, We have all felt bitter from time to time so don’t apologize. I guess we, the “impatient” generation, are just sick and tired, sick and tired. But I look at it like God created it all and wound the spring up and set it all in motion. Sooner or later the spring will run down, and it will all STOP. We just don’t know where we are in the cycle of the spring, and that’s the part that frustrates us all. We have no say or control over it, and we feel out of control like it will never be set right. So personally, I have chosen to live in the day, not in the past, and not look to the future. It’s enough to eek out a decent life, to stay afloat. For me, I still have faith that God is in charge, that He knows the end of the story. The WCG didn’t take that away from me. I am completely confident that the bad guys will get “theirs”, maybe not in my lifetime, but eventually. So be calm, take a breath and keep a clear head.

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Whatmeworry : thank you so very much for your words. Very timely, and greatly needed.

    That is the attitude I think I need to develop – I have swung too far on the naughty side 🙂 Need to get things more straight. (I have been VERY rebellious!!).

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    The whole east coast of Australia is experiencing unprecedented dust storms – horrible. Yep, can just see Wayne Matthews in Melbourne “See, the Thunders ARE getting stronger!”.

    So what – a bit of dust – whoppdie doo.

  • J says:

    Ugh, I know Weinland will run with it. Why wouldn’t he?

    He’ll probably work the Florida/Georgia/Alabama floods into it too.

    But you know what, it doesn’t matter what he says or does, his downfall is set in stone.

  • angel says:


    Just wanted to add a comment to your question as to why God allows people like Ron to continue. I think God would say that He warned us against such men. He told us how to test prophets. I believe He would ask us how it could be that we have access to His word and don’t know how He feels about false prophets and how to know if a prophet is false. Those who follow a false prophet will have to answer to God as to why they chose to believe a man over God.

    God allowed Satan to lie to Eve, so she could choose whether to believe him or God. He is still giving us that choice.

    As convincing as the lies of a cult leader can be, unless it can be shown that people are being held physically against their will, they are choosing to believe him. They are choosing to close their eyes, their ears and their minds to everyone who tries to show them the truth – including God.

  • Matt says:

    I still think this guy is actually giving value for money in a way no other religion does. Armageddon while you wait, and a thundering good floorshow to keep you occupied in the meantime :fall of the USA within the next 3 months according to one of his books and a United States of Europe within the next 2 years, world war 3, you name it, the weinland show has it!

    But to those here that feel bitter, think of it this way: there are people that were raised on this drivel, and that broke away from it. If you need any better proof that the human mind is a wonderful thing and that we are all able to think critically and decide our own destiny, that must be it. The Weinlands of this world don’t have it all their own way – even those that are indoctrinated from the get-go are capable of asking the ultimate question: “says who?” if there is any people like that about, thanks for showing me there’s hope for us all yet!

  • Kirrily XPKG says:

    Awesome words there Matt 🙂 Good perspective.